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I say limb-from-limb, but that's mostly because it's nice to finally see a Chicago sports team become dominant again. No real animosity towards those poor Cardinals, but they can nurse their wounds against the other, lesser teams.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 6:46 PM
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Rooting for Leinart, who shouldn't have fallen as far in the draft as he did.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 6:48 PM
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And now I'm really really wishing they weren't making so many damn yards in such quick succession. C'mon, defense, stop the rush!


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 6:53 PM
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Boo. Hiss.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 6:54 PM
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That's truly pathetic, Timbot. How can you root for a guy who was beaten by an unbelievable performance in a huge game, and then said that he thought his team was still better? Sad sad sad.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 6:55 PM
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But he worked ever so hard taking ballroom dance.

Twat.

Limb from limb works for me.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 6:57 PM
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6 gets it exactly right.


Posted by: Anarch | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:03 PM
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He's going to be a really, really good NFL quarterback. Tough call tonight though, especially with Fitzgerald out.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:04 PM
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How can you root for a guy who was beaten by an unbelievable performance in a huge game, and then said that he thought his team was still better? Sad sad sad.

Yeah, I know. I saw something or other that made me like him--maybe something about his family--and I decided to give him a pass on the BCS game. It's not like hating him on Young's behalf makes up for the "blackie" thing, ogged.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:06 PM
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They reversed the interception! What was wrong with it? (I'm at work, on the NFL site, so no pretty pictures to explain things)


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:10 PM
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I saw something or other that made me like him

God, you're a sucker. Why not just say, "I saw a puff piece that convinced me that he, Bill Laimbeer, and Christian Laetner are pretty good guys, after all."


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:13 PM
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This isn't going according to plan.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:15 PM
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I should have waited for 10-0 before jumping on this bandwagon.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:20 PM
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and I decided to give him a pass on the BCS game

Yeah, doesn't really matter, the championship game. Come on—something about his family?


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:22 PM
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But, but, they used the special voice-over and fade just like the do with the Olympic gymnasts!!!!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:23 PM
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14: I expect that kind of talk from the desert heathen, but I thought you knew Jesus, Smasher.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:24 PM
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Bill Laimbeer is a good guy.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:27 PM
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How can you root for a guy who

there's this christian concept called "forgiveness", but we don't really expect *you* to know about it.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:28 PM
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Seriously, how is this happening? Bah.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:46 PM
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6 for 13 and 2 interceptions, that's how. The Bears might even be doing alright if they kept a drive going for more than 20 seconds.

Fucking grrr, I hope this starts turning around.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:48 PM
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And a strip and turnover! What the hell is up with this offensive line?


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 7:49 PM
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I never loved Chicago anyway.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:00 PM
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Chicago loved you, ogged, once.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:02 PM
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Chicago has a football team? Whoa.

max
['What happened to the Blackhawks?']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:05 PM
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20-nil

Wow. Hell has frozen over.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:07 PM
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"Leinart was born with strabismus ("crossed eyes"), as his left eye was not aligned correctly with his right. He underwent surgery when he was three years old and was fitted with special glasses to correct the problem, but the eyewear combined with Leinart's already-overweight frame to make him an easy target for ridicule at the hands of other children. [1] "I used to get made fun of for being cross-eyed. It's just a terrible thing because kids are so cruel to the fat kid, to the kid with the glasses. So I turned to sports," he would later say."


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:09 PM
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He must have been terribly intelligent, also, or else the bullies would not have teased him.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:11 PM
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Paris Hilton. Paris Hilton.


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:12 PM
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Preach it, L.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:14 PM
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He was only trying to get her to read.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:15 PM
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No, I take it back. I think I once saw something or other that made me think Paris Hilton was ok. She was working with the poor or something.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:16 PM
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the poor or something

It wasn't the poor, it was starving children. And it wasn't starving children, it was Nicole Ritchie. Decapitation and limb from limb!


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:18 PM
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Awesome.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:21 PM
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32 - isn't L supposed to be like 18 or something? I feel old, dumb, and unwitty.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:26 PM
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L.'s a crackerjack, alright. And Chicago's gonna make this a football game.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:33 PM
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You'd think so. Then you see their play in the red zone.

Dammit Bears, why do you hurt me?


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:34 PM
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In the interest of full disclosure, I'll admit that I don't actually care if the Bears win. I just have their D/ST, kicker, and Muhsin Muhammad on my fantasy team. I really do want to see Leinart horribly disfigured, though.


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:38 PM
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If you all would just give up on football, you could spend the next eight months gloating about the Yankees collapse like the rest of us, where by the rest of us I mean Brooklynites over seventy and a bunch of Communist Cubans.


Posted by: Steve | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:40 PM
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I just have their D/ST, kicker, and Muhsin Muhammad on my fantasy team. I really do want to see Leinart horribly disfigured, though.

L., I want you turn lesbian right now, because no man deserves you.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:48 PM
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...has done anything so awful as to deserve the emasculating experience of a girl who knows football, or has led such a virtuous life as to have earned such a treat? And either way, what makes you think I wasn't already?


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:56 PM
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has led such a virtuous life as to have earned such a treat

Of course.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 8:58 PM
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Oh, it's football season? Excellent, I need to spend less time hanging out here anyway.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:00 PM
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Touchdown! W00t!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:01 PM
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Leinart's on my fantasy team, Ogged. Picked him in the last round of our draft. Do you want me to be a lesbian, too?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:03 PM
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Of course.


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:03 PM
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45 to 41, 42, and what the hell, 44 too.


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:04 PM
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42 gets it exactly right.


Posted by: DaveL | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:11 PM
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And now, what should by all rights be the Bears turnaround is becoming yet another great drive by the Cardinals. This just sucks.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:11 PM
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But if apo's playing Leinart this week, then good for him. Who would've seen this good of a game coming for him?


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:13 PM
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No, I started Philip Rivers, who did great but the rest of my lineup gave me jack.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:16 PM
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I see that Arizona is doing its best to throw the game away, but while it's still not over, let me say, as a Becks-style Pats fan: fuck the Bears. And with that, good night. I'll read the results in the morning.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:27 PM
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It's alright, Grossman is just throwing it out to any old place. It's the only way to be sure the Bears can't possibly make a comeback.

There need to be some serious miracles starting.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:33 PM
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Ha ha!


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:33 PM
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fuck the Bears

Is that before or after we fuck the Dolphins?


Posted by: DaveL | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:34 PM
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Actually, the Bears were famously fucked by the Dolphins on Monday Night Football in 1985.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:37 PM
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Re: 42 & 47, in the interest of comity, I repeat myself: football's fathomless vulgarity is a part of the glorious American mosaic.

(Any idea why I can't get that "Link to this comment" deal to work?)


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:37 PM
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I thought that both bears and dolphins were rapists.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:39 PM
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Re: 56, forget the question, I think I figured it out.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:40 PM
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Can't get it to work, how?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:40 PM
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Oh wow. Who the hell saw that coming? Now if only the Bears could score off some actual offense.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:42 PM
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Man, the Cardinals really are snakebitten.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:42 PM
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56: Sure. Not one of the good parts, but as long as we have demolition derbies and bass tournaments I suppose a little football can't make things all that much worse.


Posted by: DaveL | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:42 PM
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60: I was expecting the linked comment to jump to the top, and didn't notice the final digits change in the URL.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:43 PM
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Oh, I thought you said Beinart.


Posted by: Paul | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:46 PM
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You have got to be fucking kidding me.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:51 PM
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(65 -> the game)


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:52 PM
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Holy Shit! How's that?!

Three touchdowns by the defense for the Bears! And they've got the lead! This is obscene. Let's see them keep it.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:52 PM
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I love football insofar as I love drinking heavily, fattening myself on grilled foods, and screaming at other people. I just don't actually know the rules of the game.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:52 PM
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OMG


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:53 PM
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Oh, whoops, that last one was by the secondary. Still. Jesus.

C'mon defense, let's force a quick turnover.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:53 PM
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I love you Bears!


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:53 PM
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57: dolphins are rapists, bears are rapees. bless their hearts.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:53 PM
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WTF, in regards to the game. Haven't read thread.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:53 PM
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Ah, Chicago, city of my youth.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:54 PM
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w00t! Fuck 'em Bears!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 9:54 PM
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72: Geez, have we forgotten already?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:03 PM
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I never loved Chicago anyway.

Ah, Chicago, city of my youth.

Don't think you can waltz right back if this pulls through, ogged.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:03 PM
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Holy crap! I'll take it!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:03 PM
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That is the damnedest football game I think I have ever seen.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:03 PM
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The secret meaning of this game is that McCain will tumble from a huge lead and fall to Obama. I'm not sure what the number of turnovers and the defensive scoring analogize to.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:06 PM
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Leinart is fucking pissed, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are riots in Phoenix tonight after how all the Arizona fans were gloating early on.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:07 PM
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Leinart played well, clearly because God wanted it to hurt more when he lost.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:08 PM
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55:

Bears fan in Jr. HS in Miami. I wept.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:08 PM
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81: Have you ever been to Phoenix? People don't care about the Cardinals. At all.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:09 PM
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WTF? The Cards are about to chip-shot for the win, I come over here, I go back to Gameday, and Da Bears win?

Holy shit.

Hope my dad saw that.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:10 PM
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Holy fucking crap. That was amazing.


Posted by: Anarch | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:12 PM
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Okay, I hate football, but that was truly amazing.

Can we get back to baseball now, pleasepleaseplease? The fucking postseason, people.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:15 PM
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84 - There's a lot of people in a football stadium, so one can hope. Italians shouldn't get all the post-sport riot fun.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:17 PM
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88: At Cardinals games, though, almost all of those people are rooting for the other team.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:18 PM
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Jesus, this is the baseball hating blog.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:19 PM
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Gawd, I can feel your heathen evil through the computer screen.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:21 PM
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If I'm evil, why did God just smite your boy?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:23 PM
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Awwwww. Leinart's giving a press conference right now. I'm not quite at the Cartman stage of licking the tears of unfathomable sorrow off his face... but I do think another beer might be required.


Posted by: Anarch | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:25 PM
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Jesus, this is the baseball hating blog.

Whatever. Football can kiss my Pujols.


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:25 PM
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89 - Were you watching this game though? There was a lot of red in those stands. A Lot.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:25 PM
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But to answer the question of the post, I'd say that game ended up as more of an emasculation of Leinart than any sort of mauling. As to which is worse, I leave that question to the philosophers.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:29 PM
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95: I was not watching this game, so I'll take your word for it. I still maintain that those people are not going to riot.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:30 PM
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92: Whatever. How are you ranking the top of the West?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:32 PM
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Are you talking basketball now, Leinart Luber?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:33 PM
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94: But we have to assume that tonight's rains were Mets-aiding rains, do we not?


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:35 PM
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97 - I bet you tell kids there's no Santa Claus, just to smugly watch their little tears.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:38 PM
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Because I like the Bridgeplatosaur, I refuse to believe that s/he not only likes soccer and baseball, but also hates football.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:38 PM
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99: Yeah. I'm really hoping (gawd help me) that it's Kwame Time.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:42 PM
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Ogged, stop oppressing SB.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:43 PM
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101: Sorry, dude. Much as I would love to see some destruction of the monstrosity that is Phoenix, I have to stay reality-based here.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:45 PM
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Kwame Time

If you consider, Timbot, that every time you and I have disagreed about the NBA, I've been right, you might decide that when I tell you that Kwame can't catch and that that promises to be a handicap in his NBA career, you'd believe me.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:48 PM
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Actually, I do think he'll have a pretty good year. But he's never going to be fearsome, because he really does have bad hands.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:49 PM
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Jesus, this is the baseball hating blog.

Say what you mean: this is the America-hating blog.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 10:53 PM
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I don't hate football. I'm a big fan of my team, for instance. But in general, divorced from any given contest, I rate football a solid "meh". Other sports do a better job of masking their inner cock pageant. The "special teams" military wannabe hoopla is particularly egregious.


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:06 PM
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If you love the cock pageant, the cock pageant will love you in turn.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:16 PM
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You know, Jesus, do you not, that football has more viewers than baseball in this great America?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:17 PM
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I'm patting your butt. How's that for a start?


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:18 PM
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In other news.


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:26 PM
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Butt patting is completely normal and I have no idea why you'd bring it up now.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:28 PM
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I know also that NASCAR has more viewers than baseball in this great America. You were saying?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:36 PM
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This is a NASCAR friendly blog.

And to bed! Later, bigots.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:39 PM
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"Nascargots"


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:40 PM
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Actually, I do think he'll have a pretty good year. But he's never going to be fearsome, because he really does have bad hands.

He's a gigantic athletic talent and a decent guy who has been widely and wrongly labeled as the biggest draft bust of all time. If you re-drafted today, I'm not convinced that he would go any lower than fifth. Beaten like a overeager puppy by an over-the-hill, overanxious Jordan, he never had a chance to develop. What I'm looking for, ogged, is the best that sports has to offer: redemption and retribution.

But, really, the Lakers can go only as far as Odom lets them go.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-16-06 11:50 PM
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Clearly, based on 38, Jesus is either an elderly Brooklynite or a Communist Cuban.


Posted by: Steve | Link to this comment | 10-17-06 5:57 AM
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I've put in my time as a sports fan, and I'm gradually let that side of myself die. If I were to pick up on a sport to follow, knowing what I do now, it would be rugby.

Good points of rugby:
1. almost continuous action
2. lots of options on offense
3. plenty rough
4. few 1-0 games
5. no 130-129 games with the 2 minutes excitement preceded by 3 3/4 quarters of garbage time
5. no shootouts

Bad points of rugby:
None.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-17-06 7:02 AM
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Nascargots

Delicious, but the fork you need to get the drivers out of their shells cars is really unwieldy.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 10-17-06 7:13 AM
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119: I don't need an entire eight months to gloat over the Yankees. I have only to briefly summon memories of the 2004 ALCS, one of the greatest events in human history.

120: Bad points of rugby: Chance that your captain will move you from winger, a fun position, to hooker, which is in the center of the scrum and therefore pretty much like the situation in the trash compactor scene in Star Wars, except that you actually get crushed.


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120: And possibly get your testicles bitten off, although I understand that's much less frequent nowadays.


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err, to 122 there.


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