Re: It's Still Dia de los Muertos

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Hey, a post by Tia!

How come Jake gets to play the zombie?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 11:39 AM
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I want to see the sequel to Million Dollar Baby in which Hilary Swank's character comes back as a zombie.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 11:42 AM
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Would "I wish I knew how to quit--BRAINS" be better?

Much.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 11:50 AM
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I can't remember where I saw this, but someone somewhere posted the lyrics to a great song from the point of view of a zombie. Along the lines of "Hey Bob, it's Mike from Accounting. Let's be reasonable about this, we can talk. After all, all we want to do is eat your brains."


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 11:56 AM
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Ok, I'll be dumb. Is "I wish I knew how to quit--BRAINS" like "I wish I could stop eating brains" or like "it would be great if I could quit-- hey, look over there! brains! I'm distracted!"


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 11:56 AM
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Does it really matter?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:00 PM
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5 -- I took it to mean the latter.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:00 PM
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Cala, don't we both share a commitment to destroying humor through philosophical disambiguation?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:01 PM
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(Otherwise the dash does not really serve any purpose.)


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:01 PM
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Yeah, I like the second reading better too.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:01 PM
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5: I was thinking that part of the reason it's a good slogan is that it could mean either. Alas, at the party I was too drunk to announce I'd thought of this improvement, so I lost an opportunity to display my wittiness.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:02 PM
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"It could be like this, just like this, always, because we're the undead."


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:02 PM
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See, I was an English major, and I like multiple simultaneous readings.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:02 PM
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I read it as a brief, flickering instinct from his former life before resuming his insatiable appetite for brains.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:03 PM
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and I like multiple simultaneous

I was very disappointed to have this sentence end in "readings".


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:04 PM
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4: LB - This one?


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:04 PM
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If you want the sentence to end differently, apo, maybe you should do things a little differently, hmm?


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:06 PM
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I was thinking it should go: "I wish I knew how to quit--" "BRAINS!"


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:07 PM
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16: That is the very one. I love the title: "Re: Your Brains".


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:09 PM
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Now, why is it that zombies crave brains? Do they think they will restore them to the state of higher intelligence that they dimly remember possessing? Or do they just taste great?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:11 PM
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So I looked up some lines from Brokeback, intending to make more zombie jokes; now I'm just depressed. Cry, cry, masturbate, cry.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:11 PM
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Cry, cry, masturbate, BRAINS!


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:16 PM
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Come on FL, it'll be great -- you won't have to masturbate or cry. Just eat delicious brains!


Posted by: Zombie Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:16 PM
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21: Brains, brains, brains, brains.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:16 PM
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I heard Jonathan Coulton perform this song (MP3) pretty recently. Seems appropriate.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:17 PM
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('Smasher is he zombie Monty Python!)


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:17 PM
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Now, why is it that zombies crave brains? Do they think they will restore them to the state of higher intelligence that they dimly remember possessing? Or do they just taste great?

Give Me The Brain

(that doesn't really answer your question but it is suggestive of option #1.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:18 PM
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(Tom of manifestdensity.com is pwned three ways to Sunday!)


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:18 PM
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28: Sunday is the day for Zombie Jesus.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:25 PM
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oh man. sorry about that.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:26 PM
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I thought Heath Ledger was already playing a zombie in Brokeback Mountain. That's the first film (that I'd deliberately rented) in a long time I've stopped watching because it was so damn boring.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:32 PM
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See, this is why it's good that my unfogged friends and the people I see in real life are largely non-overlapping sets. I will at some point in the near future end up in a conversation where discussing this would be appropriate and clever, and then will do so.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:36 PM
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27: Pretty much all of their games are great.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:45 PM
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can't remember where I saw this, but someone somewhere posted the lyrics to a great song from the point of view of a zombie.

Not to farb, but I remember posting the Coulton lyrics here a while ago. WLBFH (would link but for hoohole).


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:47 PM
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That must have been where I saw them.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 12:51 PM
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And was m-fun had at this party, or was it all just brain-fun?


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 2:43 PM
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Nothing to do with zombies, other than wanting them to eat certain programmers' brains, but fucking haloscan just ate another long comment post over at bitchphd, and I so seldom get the chance to use the term "voiceless postalveolar affricate" in blogommenting. !#@%$!#%$#^$#^&(&*()!!!


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 3:56 PM
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You know, I often find that when it does that if I just go "back" in my browser, the comment's still in its little comment box and I can change a word or two and re-post it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 4:14 PM
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I tried that; didn't work. Haloscan wouldn't even show the existing comments after that.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 4:24 PM
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Fuck. Someone else was having problems with it earlier, too. How annoying, especially since TD's trolling that thread and driving me nuts.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 4:26 PM
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Isn't he just. I just read the thread, and wanted to say something devastating, but couldn't get it phrased better than "Could you just stop being an asshole?" So I thought better of it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 4:30 PM
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Feel free. When I tell him to knock shit off, he just pulls the "hurt feelings" card out of his back pocket. Honestly, I can't tell if he really is as clueless as he pretends to be.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 4:36 PM
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Eh, I said something less hostile and wordier.

He does come off as kind of thick, doesn't he.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 4:45 PM
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He does come off as kind of thick, doesn't he.

I believe the word you're looking for is "girthy".


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 4:48 PM
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Damn, beaten to the punch by Brock.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 4:49 PM
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Yeah, but "girthy as a brick" doesn't have the same punch, what with "girthy" lacking, as it does, an unaspirated voiceless velar plosive fricative. [OK, now I feel better; all those years in the Columbia linguistics department were not entirely wasted. Well, they might have been, but I did learn how to order reindeer meatballs in Finnish. And how to make a single cup of tea last all night at the West End bar. Which, like CBGB, is now gone. Probably eaten by zombies.]


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 5:43 PM
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unaspirated voiceless velar plosive fricative

Not sure what "plosive" is doing in there, but all English words lack velar fricatives.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 5:56 PM
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Well then we clearly need to invent some English words that contain velar fricatives.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 5:59 PM
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Gho for it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 6:01 PM
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Teo -- wha'bout "ugh"?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 6:05 PM
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I suppose some people pronounce it with a fricative; I just use a regular [g]. Onomatopœia is kind of a gray area as far as phoneme inventories go.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 6:08 PM
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Because it should have said "voiceless velar plosive"; I was thinking "frigging voiceless velar plosive" and managed to have a senior moment and transform "frigging" into "fricative" and stick it at the end. It's been a long day.

I was, of course, not referring to the word "girthy", but to the word "thick". Which, BTW, one can say as a VVF if one is disgusted enough. And spitting.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 6:36 PM
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FWI, Scots accents use voiceless velar fricatives, so it's incorrect to claim that no English word is pronounced that way.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 6:38 PM
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Do Scottish dialects of English (as opposed to Scots, the status of which is controversial) really have voiceless velar fricatives? I have no idea. Matt McG would know.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 6:44 PM
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Come to think of it, "yecch" ends with a VVF.

I used to have a buddy from Motherwell. He definitely injected VVFs into otherwise English words.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:00 PM
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The only reason Scots is controversial is because anyone who tells the truth will be beaten within an inch of his life. "Scots" is just English, as spoken by illiterates who've suffered multiple concussions.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:25 PM
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If I understand what a voiceless velar fricative is, a word like 'loch' has one, and that's both an English word and certainly a word present in a Scottish dialect of English.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:30 PM
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So is it the VVP that makes "rat's ass" such a satisfying phrase? I have linguistics envy.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:30 PM
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57: Loanwords are also borderline areas as far as phonemic inventory.

58: No.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:38 PM
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Well, okay, but in a Scottish dialect of English it's not a loan word, it's good honest dialect. So pfui.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:42 PM
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I believe "loch" is actually a Scots word, so it would indeed be a loan in a Scottish dialect of English. Also, why is everyone so humorless today?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:43 PM
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59: Okay, then, what the fuck is it?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:47 PM
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No idea, but there's no VVP there. Maybe it's the sibilants.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:51 PM
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The flatness of the vowels is nice, too.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:53 PM
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61 -- but see 56.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:53 PM
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(and, wrt to the second part of your post, "it's their time of month".)


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:54 PM
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65: I wouldn't go around pissing off the most violent people in Western Europe.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:57 PM
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64: Actually, it's probably the rhyme. Same for "thick as a brick."


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:58 PM
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67 also works as a response to 66, I guess.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 7:58 PM
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61: It's not every one being humorless -- it just keeps on being me, in different threads.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 8:03 PM
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The ironic thing about being beaten up by a Scotsman is that with enough brain damage, you start speaking Scots yourself and become the Other. Sort of a zombie effect.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 8:15 PM
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No, in this thread it's also DE. And in another it's SJ, but then he's always pretty humorless.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 8:15 PM
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71: So that's how it happened.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 1-06 8:17 PM
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re: 54 and 55

Yeah, Scots contains lots of voiceless velar fricatives. Scottish people speaking English, the situation is less clear since most working class and lower middle class people use a dialect that is somewhere in between Scots and English: there's no clear line of demarcation. The lack of a clear line of demarcation is why the 'is Scots a dialect or a language?' debate rages.

So, you'll get people using the voiceless velar fricative for the 'gh' [grapheme] in lots of English words -- in 'night' and 'bright', etc. That's straight out of Scots, where the words are usually written 'nicht' and 'bricht', but will be used in an otherwise entirely English sentence with otherwise English vocabulary and grammar.

I wouldn't describe 'Loch' as a loan word. It's part of Scottish English. It's part of English English too, the bastards just can't pronounce it properly.

re: the other comments: And you cheeky bastards are asking for a kicking ... Or, as Emerson describes it, borg-style assimilation.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11- 2-06 12:14 AM
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I'm being humourless? 'Twasn't I who started the eruditer-than-thou pedantry; I just made an off-hand jest about the inability to say something like "girthy as a brick" with the proper degree of exasperated emission of saliva on the end notes.

And the opportunity for "fricative" jokes came and went so swiftly, dying unborn upon the tongues of the less high-minded members of the Mineshaft... ah, well...


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 2-06 2:45 PM
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58: The mid-sound of "rat's ass" is an affricate, a combination of an alveolar fricative [the s/z sound] and an alveolar plosive [the t sound]. I think it sounds so good because one segues from what is essentially a plosive stop into a hiss, all nice ways of indicating one's sneering dislike of whatever one doesn't give a rat's ass about.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 2-06 3:14 PM
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And the opportunity for "fricative" jokes came and went so swiftly, dying unborn upon the tongues of the less high-minded members of the Mineshaft... ah, well...

Well then let's cut out the damn euphemisms and go back to calling them fuckatives.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 2-06 3:15 PM
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Sailor: What kind of ship is that on the horizon, sir?

Captain: Frigate.

Sailor: Yeah, who gives a fuck?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 2-06 3:21 PM
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76: See, Teo? I knew it had to have a nice high-sounding explanation.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11- 2-06 3:58 PM
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