Gliddy glub gloopy
Nibby nabby noopy
La la la lo lo
Sabba sibby sabba
Nooby abba nabba
Le le lo lo
Tooby ooby walla
Nooby abba naba
Early morning Republican ass-whuppin' song
humpf. this is the real post and the other one will get deleted in a minute.
Am I ungrateful if I feel a bit annoyed that they didn't take the senate?
I hope this doesn't lead to a complete letup of efforts on the Black Box Voting Machines issue. Webb probably lost because of that sort of thing. Several of the Democratic candidates who were victimized by the "Hi, this is Tammy Duckworth calling to annoy you." (click) "Hi, this is Tammy Duckworth calling to annoy you." (click) "Hi, this is Tammy Duckworth calling to annoy you." (click) "Hi, this is Tammy Duckworth calling to REALLY ANNOY YOU." robocalls lost by very small margins. (Duckworth herself, Farrell vs. Shays, Maffei in NY)
Odelally! Appropriate, isn't it, for our thumb-sucking king this morning?
uh, Webb didn't lose. He looks to have won, righto?
We need a constant refrain of 'you lost because you screwed up' between now and 2008. None of this 'what can we do to convince Americans we're good' bullshit from the Democrats any more.
Best meetup ever, by my reckoning.
Am I ungrateful if I feel a bit annoyed that they didn't take the senate?
It looks like they did. Assuming the absentee ballots break roughly in line with the statewide vote, it's 51-49.
But otherwise, Ned is righto.
The bag o' dirty tricks makes drawn out challenges a difficult prospect for Republicans who lose close races, correct?
Webb is still ahead by 8K votes.
I can't wait for the republicans to start yelling about ELECTION FRAUD.
Also, I want to again reiterate that I hate people who voted Green in VA. But still, happy happy nibby nappy noopy or whatever standpipitude said.
AWB is not the only one with a hangover.
But, they can't yell election fraud! They've been convincing everyone that it's perfect for weeks!
The absentee ballots worry me, especially in Virginia, but I still think we'll take it.
In the eyes of the public, we've already won those races, by the way. Just like when people figured Bush was the winner, even though he led Gore in Florida by like 7 votes.
And rest assured, when we take the Senate officially, my pants are coming off.
10: Well, it might have been, if only you'd been decent enough to take off your pants.
18: You might have cause and effect reversed. Take 'em off! Take 'em off! Take 'em off!
"And rest assured, when we take the Senate officially, my pants are coming off."
repeat 14.
It's so sweet that a Democrat won Tom DeLay's seat.
Is anyone a little bit nervous about Lieberman basically holding the keys to the Senate, if things turn out well for us?
Add me to the hangover count.
I thought this point about Virginia on TPM was a good one:
The Republicans have backed themselves into a corner in Virginia. If you're going to go to the mat with dirty tricks and voter suppression, your counting on staying under the rader and that once the election is over, folks will move on. If Allen contests the results of the election it changes the election from a single day event into a 3 or 4 week event, plenty of time to chase down those callerid numbers and phone bank contractors. Virginia isn't Ohio. It doesn't have Ken Blackwell to cover up the GOP shenanigans, and the state has already requested the FBI to look into them. The Allen campaign is going to have to make the choice of whether contesting the results is worth the chance of exposing criminal activity.
Is anyone a little bit nervous about Lieberman basically holding the keys to the Senate, if things turn out well for us?
Not that worried. He won, in large part, because he was the incumbent and has substantial supporters in the CT Democratic machinery--if it had been a straight fight between a Republican and Lamont, I'm nearly certain Lamont would have won. I don't see Lieberman betraying his backers.
But I'm really happy right now, and that tends to make my predictions about the future rosy and optimistic. If he betrays us, he betrays us.
I'm not as generous as Tim. It burns me the fuck up, for sure.
22: You know what else is sweet?
- This guy lost. Yes, he was a sportscaster before being elected to congress, and Yes, he's an ignorant douche.
- Michael Steele's "Vote Steele - the Democratic candidate" campaign didn't work. I blame Mike Tyson more than anything Cardin did.
- Ken Blackwell was TOTALLY DEMOLISHED in the Ohio governor's race. He's pretty much the most obivously evil politician I've ever seen (Karl Rove and Ralph Reed are not actually politicians), so it's good that his ambitions have been killed.
- We held on to two seats in Georgia and one in South Carolina that are not in majority-minority areas.
And a couple more things that aren't sweet:
- It seems like the Arizona "People who have moved in the last two years or don't have driver's licenses can no longer vote" law has put off the Democratic takeover of that state for another 15 or 20 years.
- Mark Foley got 48% of the vote. That means the Democrat is going to lose that seat next time, you can guarantee it.
- Same thing with the Tom Delay seat.
- The guy who won the Republican nomination with 25% of the vote and is universally despised by his own party won in Idaho.
- That sexually harassing lady won in Wyoming.
- New Minnesota congresswoman who appears to be a brainwashed cult member.
- Francine Busby lost by a lot more in the Duke Cunningham seat than she did a few months ago.
- Richard "I hate nature! Get me a beer and a woman!" Pombo won reelection.
- John "Duke Cunningham" Doolittle won reelection.
- The last three things indicate that that nonpartisan redistricting commission thing in California would probably have been a good idea, but oh well.
It's the happiest hangover I've had in a while, though.
Ned, why don't you come over to my niece's house and tell her all about Santa Claus?
Drymala, I really think there is a magic realist play to be written, about our nation's hopes and yesterday's election results, called Joe's Pants. Don't shirk. Art still matters.
27: Also sweet:
- The enforced pregnancy referendum in South Dakota lost.
- The enforced pregnancy man in Kansas lost.
Don't lose focus. This thread is for dishing.
Is anyone challenging that Arizona law? Or have they?
I am more or less not hungover, and I consider this a sign that there is somewhere up there a forgiving god or gods.
I'm with you on Lieberman, Joe.
The upside is that the Connecticut For Lieberman party had terrible showings in all states except one.
to 34: I hate to break this to you, mcmanlypants, but you're still drunk. trust me, I speak from long experience here. the hangover will start in a few hours, unless the sheer awesomeness of the US elections magicks it away.
You too? I need to get a wallet card made up reminding me not to drink Manhattans if I'm planning to have more than one.
Y'all were crazy with your cocktails. This is why I stuck to beer.
Also, about last night: Add me to the list of people with hangovers.
Gods, but I love Manhattans.
38: I don't think I'm still drunk but I have to say I cannot believe I had the balls to claim I was sober while it was still last night.
I had a very mild one, because I didn't drink quite enough water. Just a little queasy, but it wasn't too bad.
Lamont didn't have a strong chance; he got into the race to keep Lieberman honest and accidentally won the primary. It came a lot closer than anyone expected, but Connecticut is a weird place with a lot of Independents and non-insane Republicans. The Republican candidate was a dweeb, and those non-insane Republicans had to vote for someone, after all. He hasn't changed his positions on anything, he's still going to kiss Republican ass and hang onto his prized bipartisanship, but we already had that.
Ned's got it. The issue now is redistricting. I did a little googling around to look at districts in my own state last night, and dayamn. The fact that we got as close as we did in the 11th is quite a testament to Pombo's massive unpopularity. I don't know when the next chance to redistrict comes up, but if that's not a major Democratic priority I'll eat Joe's pants.
Just for the record, all evening long Joe Drymala kept receiving text messages after which he would turn and declare "we're gonna lose." It was seriously unnerving.
That's why I drank too much beer.
23: It is pretty much the nightmare scenario. Lieberman is supposed to be angry and have scores to settle, but on the other hand, I really do believe he doesn't feel loyal to the Republicans, especially since they are now the losers.
I don't know when the next chance to redistrict comes up
The Supreme Court upheld Texas's non-census-year redistricting, didn't they? Let's break out them maps right now. ("We learned it from watching you, Massuh Delay!")
Jack speaks the truth. I was a doomsayer.
49: And a very convincing one. I was figuring that you had sources with all the inside dope on our certain loss, everywhere.
I've never been more happy to be wrong.
Isn't redisticting controlled by the state government?
51: Wow, TalkingPointsMemo had it like 55-45 Pombo with 98% reporting. I'm utterly amazed.
Redistricting is controlled by the state legislatures, and I haven't been following how Democrats in other states have done on that score.
From MyDD:
"Democrats hold the majority of state legislative chambers for the first time since 2000 and hold a majority of states for the first time since 1994." says Michael Davies. "The DLCC continues our winning streak to become the winningest campaign committee in politics, with net gains in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006, succeeding in both good and bad environments. Winning at the state legislative level has the longest impact, because of redistricting and growing the "farm team" of future leaders."Pre-election Democrats controlled 47 chambers to the Republicans 49, with 2 chambers tied. So far, Democrats have 51 chambers to the Republicans 31, with the remainder to be called.
Here's the first major election where I believe the loser was actually screwed by electronic voting: Christine Jennings loses by 368 votes; 8000 votes missing in Sarasota.
The fact that it was Kitty Harris's old seat is icing on the cake. Good job, you mascara-addicted sweater filler!
That's interesting. You know, even leaving to one side accusations of fraud, what would they do if it became apparent that the voting machines had just lost a big chunk of votes, irretrievably? Rerun the election? I doubt there's precedent.
Whoa, Bob McManus, hold on a minute there. You were the guy who was saying fuck the independents and fuck the centrists and fuck the swing voters because it was only the revolutionary masses who would make any kind of political difference, because you've looked back at the voting demographics around Vietnam and decided that swing voters and moderates and centrists and independents are a bunch of asshats.
Take a look at the numbers on this one that got you the sword. Still think that way about independents and swing voters and such? Then you're not paying attention. And if that's what got you the sword, then I would say be pretty goddamn careful where you swing that thing.
Not that it shouldn't be swung, mind you. But I'd hesitate just a minute or two before you start requiring attendance at the weekly soviet and having people confess their ruling class errors.
I just want to know what they're going to do if VA triggers an automated recount, considering they've got all those fancy new machines that can't be recounted.
60: One good thing about the Democratic victory in both houses: I can go back to thinking that mcmanus is crazy, and not the hidden Imam who lights the Way of the Truth.
I'm almost sad that Katherine Harris lost.
You know, I find myself agreeing with McManus and Emerson a lot. If you ask me whether I agree with their general political outlook, I would say no. But if you ask me about this or that comment they made, I would generally say yes.
I'm almost sad that Katherine Harris lost.
Truer words were never said. Kitty was special in her own way. But I'm sure Florida will dredge up someone to replace her.
You know what's fucking hot? Montana has a Democratic governor, two Democratic Senators, a Democratic State Senate and a Democratic State House. Montana!
However, Kitty Harris is writing a memoire, which I expect to be nicely delusional.
There is a downside to this you know!
It means a huge leap in my travel time. I shall no longer be able to refuse on ethical considerations to work on US projects. Damn. I even refused to get my passport changed to one with a machine strip! Guess I need to get to the passport office.
Apart from that, I' m one happy Austo-Brit today.
Wow - part of the reason Montana's so close is because the Libertarian candidate pulled in 2.6% of the vote. This (Stan Jones) is the guy who turned his skin blue by drinking colloidal silver to protect from disease after Y2K was to destroy society. He also gave this as his closing statement in the Senatorial debate.
I need to get out to Montana more often.
Here's the deal with final vote counting in Montana and Virginia. It looks really good, y'all.
Manhattans are awesome, but perhaps you would like also a Little Italy (2 rye/.5 Cynar/.75 sweet vermouth) or Old Pal (1 rye/.75 Campari/.75 dry vermouth)? You could probably sub Campari for the Cynar if it came to it.
Also 2 rye/.5 maraschino/.5 sweet vermouth + dash each orange and old fashioned or angostura bitters is really good.
the guy who turned his skin blue by drinking colloidal silver
Is that safe? Because that would make a great Halloween costume.
77: What? Isn't it semi-permanent? Can't you just use body paint?
I like to swap Lillet for the vermouth in a Manhattan. Manhattans are rivalled only by the incredibly frigging good aviation cocktail. I want one RIGHT NOW. And Henry Waxman grilling Rumsfeld on television, but mostly a cocktail.
That's interesting. You know, even leaving to one side accusations of fraud, what would they do if it became apparent that the voting machines had just lost a big chunk of votes, irretrievably? Rerun the election? I doubt there's precedent.
North Carolina lights the way, specifically with regards to the Superintendent of Public Instruction and Agriculture Commissioner elections described on that page. Short version: 4,000 votes lost due to machine error in one county in 2004. One race was decided by the state legislature, one race was decided by an eventual concession by the Democrat while the state and the courts and the BoE were busy punting the ball to one another.
Rumsfeld just resigned.
Montana's been called for Tester.
How much you guys wanna bet they've offered Lieberman the SecDec job?
Does *anything* qualify Lieberman for the secretaryship?
Steve: red or white lillet? There was a cocktail on the list at the Pegu Club with Dubonnet and some bitter liqueur (Campari? something else? I can't remember).
83 - His ability to swing the Senate back to the Republicans.
Could he be both a Sec'y and a Senator simultaneously?
Former CIA director Robert Gates has been nominated to SecDef.
Praise fucking Jeebus. Maybe Lieberman didn't take it.
Ah god, Gates is the President of Texas A&M! An Aggie for SecDef!
Smasher, where are you hearing this? I can't find it anywhere.
I can see it now: "Where's the capitol at?"
Rumsfeld just resigned.
Holy shit! It's like Christmas morning!
92 has it exactly right.
The speech linked in #73 is a good thing to have on at low levels in the background, especially if nobody can figure out where the sound is coming from.
And it ends with Conrad Burns's best Jimmy Stewart impersonation.
MSNBC.
We're seriously screwed in Iraq now. The terrorists need only establish the running game early and run the play action in the second half to win!
Bush just admitted that when he told the press last week that Rumsfeld was staying on, he basically lied.
Bush's press conference right now is a trainwreck.
The Republican Party is falling to pieces. This is crazy.
89: You know Bush is an Aggie deep in his black, black heart.
The press actually seems to be pressing Bush right now, and I wish I could watch this instead of just hearing it because his voice keeps cracking. It really IS Christmas morning.
Whoa—Bush just said, "The Vice President says [BLEEEEEEP]." Was he quoting the VP telling somebody or another to go fuck himself?
Did anyone else catch that?
This is the best news conference I've ever seen - it's like Network or Bullworth or something. wow.
An Aggie? An Aggie!?! Can this LSU alumnus whip out his favorite Aggie jokes, or would that be in poor taste?
Also, Bush just defined "staying the course" as "making continual adjustments." Oh, now I understand...
100: I want a UT alum to ask: "An Aggie? Seriously?"
I use Lillet Blanc to replace the dry vermouth in a perfect Manhattan (with orange bitters), but you can use red in the place of sweet vermouth. Campari (or Campari and soda) is delicious, but I've never had it in a cocktail; if you can dredge up any more details, I'd be interested.
This is every bit as important as the Rumsfeld stuff because a) cocktails and b) nothing is going to change in Iraq until Rove figures out how to blame Democrats for losing.
101.---I thought it was the mic cutting out for a minute. Although at first, I did think exactly the same thing as you.
I think Bush is going to come out of his press conference looking better than people here seem to think. He doesn't sound nearly as incoherent as he normally does.
Whereas some of my friends are martini purists (taking grave offense at the variantinis that can be found), I am a Manhattan purist. Give me the bourbon, the sweet vermouth, the Angostura and the cherry. A twist of orange won't be turned away, but really, it's such a perfect formula I see no reason to fuck around with it.
Rumsfeld resigns. Bush flails in his first press conference. MT goes Dem. I think I'd best go ahead out to the barn so the pony that's about to come flying out my ass has someplace to stay.
Bush looks relieved and happy to me, frankly.
he just wheeled out the Baker commission reference - he comes the cover for pulling out...
To me he sounds more coherent and also likeable than usual as well. I doubt it's worth much.
he keeps going back and forth between really charming and totally incomprehensible.
(i LOVE the DC vote question!)
Speculation: Bush fired Rumsfeld today because Bush had this day in the office pool!
107: On the face of it, yes, but his remarks on Rumsfeld and 'staying the course' won't stand up to much scrutiny. He's stumbling over himself there.
Wait wait, what was the DC vote question? I stopped paying attention to, uh, analyze A&M pass/rush defense statistics.
108 - In today's spirit of national unity, I won't argue about the superiority of perfect vs. traditional. What bourbon do you use? I confess that I'm mostly a Maker's Mark guy, but if you tell me Booker's or something is righteous in a Manhattan, I'll invest in a bottle.
a guy in the audience asked him about the Davis bill, (which is supposed to be introduced before the end of hte year?) and bush said it was the first he'd heard of it, and he'd look at it.
117: I can't claim to be any sort of bourbon expert, for I am the cheapest of cheap drunks. I think Maker's is a fine choice, personally. It's also just ridiculously tasty when a shot somehow finds its way into a glass of Diet Coke.
Wait, why do I want bricklayers? To build walls to stop the assassins? I'm confused.
I must admit, I like this Bush more than the GWB who we saw from 9/11 through yesterday.
The press, in its rush to get on the right side of its readership, is going to make Bush look more reasonable and more likable by offering their own behavior up for comparison.
117: Maker's is always a good choice; Booker's would be completely wasted in a Manhattan.
If you really want a tasty Manhattan, try it with rye instead of bourbon. Even the cheap-o Jim Beam rye makes a decent one; Old Overholt is better.
Wait...could it be that Bush has been acting like an arrogant bully for the last two and a half years because he thought that was the way to appeal to the voters and create a permanent Republican majority? And maybe he's relieved that it didn't work and he doesn't have to do it anymore?
No, I still think he's an arrogant bully, and this is designed to make the press say "Look! He's ready to be bipartisan again! Who cares about the last two and a half years -- this is now! The Democrats would be assholes not to cooperate!" But just maybe...
Just back from a week's door-to-door for Duckworth. I was in the Cook County suburbs, which we won by a bigger margin than Roskum's compensating margin in DuPage. Another world, and an eye-opener for me. Trying to find houses in the dark, wishing we could do things like babysitting, or staying with a shut-in while the caretaking spouse votes, then going to Polling places to "close" them, getting the results and calling them in. Got home late, stunned and moved by the effort, the shear number of suburbanites I met who gave it their all.
IDP, 125, awesome. I'd love to hear more when you're less drained.
121: It's the same Bush. You can bet the White House is working hard on the legal battle for VA-Sen at the present time.
Okay, one, I can't believe I missed the press conference. Goddamn motherhood.
Two, did the man *really* make a "joke" about cooperating with Pelosi by recommending a decorator? HAHAHAHAHA.
Three, from what ya'll are saying, if he is more affable now, it's probably because he's such a born bully: when someone else is in charge, he's gonna kiss ass like no one's business.
Four, this: I think I'd best go ahead out to the barn so the pony that's about to come flying out my ass has someplace to stay.
Yup, McManly, Alameida's right: you're still drunk.
Tim, I am reading Geoff Eley on SDPs, so me whole outlook may get moderated. Although only up to WWI, and a theme of militancy vs complacency is emerging. Dude, whatever the workers want and can handle. But I can still barely make sense of my oen comment, which certainly contained insufficient French.
Rehydrating. As the man said:"This ain't Dodge City." I said I never had much use for the stuff, not that I didn't know how to use it. Last thing I remember was some Italian blonde saying there wasn't really any sharks. I think that was the key.
Okay, so first there's this Republican ass-whipping, then Rumsfeld resigns, and just now my Republican mother calls and tells me she's becoming more liberal. I need another drink.
See, this is the nice thing about winning OR losing. Either way, I would need another drink.
The thing about the Montanan libertarian's skin is totally awesome, by the way.
Have you seen a picture? He's completely freaky-looking. The man's a zombie.
Gawker is claiming that story/rumor on Rumsfeld leaving today was broken by the Token Conservative at the Comedy Central blog. Advantage, blogosphere!
103: Go ahead and break out the Aggie jokes. I know there are at least two of us who will appreciate them.
124: I think Bush is making nice because he knows he's pwned. Pelosi and Reid are very conciliatory and bipartisan-huggy-comity-kumbaya on the surface, but what they're saying is revolutionary in context: "we're ready to work with the GOP" really means "the GOP's power is no longer unchecked and anything you want to pass for the rest of your term must go through us." IOW, "bring it."
Also, Bush has reportedly expressed concern about his legacy in the past, and he's probably hyperconscious of it now with his popularity ratings in the cellar and just two years to go on his term. Maybe there's a little part of him who's tired of all the aggression and actually willing to cooperate on a few things.
Here's the link to the Comedy Central Insider post. Claimed posting time is 12:15 am. Maybe it's a joke. But it's even funnier if true: one of the biggest stories of the year was "broken" by a blogger.
Maybe there's a little part of him who's tired of all the aggression and actually willing to cooperate on a few things.
I don't think it's so much that as the realization that all the aggression in the world doesn't change the makeup of the next Congress, and that the investigations are on the way. He's trying to look conciliatory, but he knows he's in for a world of shit legally and that the Democrats, having been batted around and ignored repeatedly for six years, are in no mood to help him do anything between now and 2008. His legacy can only get worse from here.
The mood at the White House has to be grim grim grim.
Can anyone point to a good picture of stan jones. The only one that I found on google doesn't make him look that blue at all. I was really hoping for krishna/smurf coloring here.
That's an important difference to you southerners, isn't it?
Congratulations to all Democrats. The Repulic is saved. Seriously, the hand wringing about stolen elections should now be put back in the closet along with the crop circles, the Illuminati and other tripe.
Right. Because our side won an election, we should stop worrying about insecurities that make fraud possible.
Do you even listen to yourself?
142: Dude, you're soooo obviously a part of the Pentavarate--did you really think you could fool us that easily?
LB- Trust but verify. I think that electronic voting machines should give a paper receipt, just in case. But the rhetoric on this site got a little feverish just prior to the election, no? Not to say spirited highjinks have not occurred, or will disappear in the future, but so far the power hungry have proven to be patriots, not demons.
SCMT- I am actually the Grand Master of the Templars in exile, and I know the secret of the ley lines. Don't fuck with me.
Ah. So it's a valid concern, and remains a valid concern. You're simply esthetically displeased by the tone in which it's discussed. I'll take your preferences into account when drafting further posts.
I'm aesthetically displeased by your spelling of aesthetically, and I think you should take my preferences into account when drafting further posts.
Big talk from someone who can't even master a simple ligæture.
Glad to see TLL's wanking has continued unabated.
And you kids last night tried to tell me he wasn't a troll. Suckers.
Yes Joe, it's my turn to cry, cry, masturbate, cry.
Today has been a fairly irritating workday, all round, but who cares? Not I. Also, I received a package of high quality new socks in the mail yesterday, which will now forevermore be my Happy Election Socks. They're warm and don't fall down. Like Congress!
I should probably give Burke a better answer to his comment above. I certainly would not have predicted last night's results.
There is still a lot of analysis going on about the ideologies of the new Congresspersons, and what kind of ideology, nationally, helped win. Rahm Emmanuel vs Netroots seems still to be a topic of discussion.