Re: Ziggy: well hung, snow-white tan

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re (b): One of the great things about rock and roll is that many classic songs are based around obvious things you can do with the fingering of a guitar in standard tuning. The fiddley D thing is one. Also the Neil Young thing with the E minor plus some noodles added with your ring finger. Anyone can be a rock star with very little rehearsing!


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:09 PM
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Nice. E minor is an awesome chord that way-- well, while I'm here, I'll just add some extra notes, and hey hey my my, I sound pretty cool.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:17 PM
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if you do not want this I want nothing to do with you

What does this mean? I knew Bauhaus before I knew Bowie and I like them a lot -- but I always get th'impression other people will look down on me for this musical taste. So my first reaction is to think Oh cool, somebody else I respect likes Bauhaus!1 but then fear sets in, I think maybe you're pulling my leg and setting me up to be belittled.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:17 PM
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(And I will certainly look at the post and the video this evening, when I have multimedea capabilities.)


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:17 PM
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I learned to pick out the guitar part of "Redemption Song" in about five minutes on Saturday. It was awesome! Next up: "Stairway to Heaven"!

(Don't make fun of me; when I was an undergraduate, it was all about turntables and sampling machines.)


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:19 PM
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Clown: I think you can be secure.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:23 PM
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It's supposed to be ridiculous! Jesus. Do people actually think glam was in earnest?

Hunky Dory is his best, though, for my money.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:50 PM
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The Bauhaus cover is a little to faithful to the original - it would have been more fun if they'd really punked it up.

That, and that dude (Peter Murlhy?)'s pant are up way too high.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:51 PM
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"With god-given ass" should be a Mineshaft motto, though.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:52 PM
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Not only did Bauhaus totally rule, and make a better version of Ziggy Stardust (no offense to the brilliant Bowie), but Bauhaus sans Peter Murphy also kicked total ass with Tones on Tail and Love and Rockets. That said, anytime Bauhaus is brought up I am compelled to mention Joy Division, whose debut album was released the same year as that of Bauhaus.


Posted by: Paul | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 12:57 PM
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Also featuring that D-major pinky thing -- "Patience" by G&R.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:00 PM
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I stand by my contention that Ziggy Stardust is one of the great albums of all time.

In fact my entire interest in David Bowie stems from wondering, "I wonder what else he's done other than Ziggy Stardust."

Hunky Dory is very good, but Ziggy Stardust is rediculously good.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:00 PM
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Hm. Well it's nice to know some other people enjoy Bauhaus music in a non-sarcastic way. Next stop, Donovan. Oh wait, people here have already copped to digging his music. Jeez -- what other shameful rock 'n roll secrets have I got?... I think I like Journey, but it's been so long since I heard their music that I can't remember if I still would. Santana? Doobie Bros?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:02 PM
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What with all this Bauhauserie, pretty soon I'm going to have to step out for a clove.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:03 PM
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Aha! Got it -- the Alan Parsons Project!


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:03 PM
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when I have multimedea capabilities

Everyone, if Clownaes gives you a robe this evening, DO NOT PUT IT ON.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:05 PM
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12: don't understimate low/heros, too


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:08 PM
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16 -- thanks!


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:10 PM
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For some reason, this seems an appropriate tangent for the conversation at hand.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:11 PM
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I looked into the void, and 15 stared back at me.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:15 PM
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20 -- The game never ends, when your whole world depends on the turn of a friendly card.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:16 PM
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(The Alan Parsons Project has in common with Bauhaus, that I have seen both groups on reunion tours.)


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:19 PM
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17 -- I don't, in particular I think the opening 5 tracks of Low are a very strong sequence of songs.

But my Bowie Mix which is mostly pulled from Bowie at the Beeb, is a reasonable reflection of the Bowie that I am most likely to listen to.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:21 PM
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5- JM, I'm not making fun of you, and I applaud your accomplishments, but please no, not Stairway. It's beyond cliche. Surely there must be something else you'd enjoy learning instead?

On guitar-related note, a strong argument could be made that this is the greatest air guitar performance in history. Simply brilliant.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:23 PM
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While anyone who gets the CDs I offered to make (playlist final, album art pending) will confirm that I am a fan of the driving drums and the fuzzed-out guitar, this is so not anywhere as good as the original.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:24 PM
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sweet jesus what an erudite bunch of slackers. Caliban the other day, euripides today.

Jaco Pastorius made me go out and buy a bass. Not that I ever learned to do anything with it. It was his playing on Joni Mitchell's Hejira that did it, esp. Refuge of the Road. First time I listened to it I couldn't even figure out what the hell instrument made those sounds--a pipe organ? An elephant matriarch, musing on the lost decades? Or maybe just an especially pensive and philosophical right-whale?

It made me sad later to learn that his life was screwed up. An incredible talent.

Which is not to knock anything off Bowie, who rocks. Also, the Editors rocks.


Posted by: kid bitzer | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:25 PM
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23 - He does some cool Jacques Brel covers on that.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:25 PM
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Bauhaus was great, and the whole "Ziggy is ridiciulous" thing is about both what Joe D says--duh, it's supposed to be over the top--and also, like so many other cheesy things, it wasn't cheesy the first time it was done.

I kinda feel this way about clear sunny days with big puffy clouds. Especially if the sun slants through the clouds so that you can see the rays. "What a tacky sky; it looks like a Baroque painting. But where are the cherubs?"


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:26 PM
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5/24 -- a great guitar solo to pick out, pretty easy and fun, is the opening bars of Syd Barrett's "Baby Lemonade" (which I think is Gilmour playing but not sure.)


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:26 PM
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"What a tacky sky; it looks like a Baroque painting. But where are the cherubs?"

This sort of reaction can be avoided by eschewing art.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:29 PM
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tablature for 29 and lyrics.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:30 PM
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teofilo is teh Eschewer!


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:31 PM
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Maybe I'm too young, but "well hung"? "Snow-white tan"?


Posted by: goalie | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:36 PM
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27 -- indeed. As far as covers go I think his cover of "Cactus" by the pixies (on Heathen) is also very good.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:39 PM
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The other thread is reminding me of the obvious -- I can always feel embarrassed and small about liking the Doors. And Castaneda too, probably.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:44 PM
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Ride the snake, Clown.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:45 PM
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"Ziggy Stardust" is fucking amazing, and only a fat ugly Nazi would whine about how the lyrics are too weird.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:45 PM
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My favorite Bowie album is Scary Monsters.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 1:49 PM
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My opinion of Bowie is totally colored by The Venture Brothers, which is to say: Bowie is awesome.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 2:05 PM
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I think it's important to remember that whatever else you might say about it, glam rock helped bring down Communism.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 2:34 PM
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Also featuring the noodling on D-major, James Taylor's "Country Road."


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 2:43 PM
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please note that 24 Features someone who

1. bills himself as a "professional air guitarist"

2. is wearing some inexplicable hello kitty bikini top.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 3:24 PM
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John Lennon's "Woman" as well. Perhaps there ought to be a Dnoodle or Dndl notation.


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 4:24 PM
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42: Inexplicable? Hello Kitty rocks!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 4:28 PM
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It's not that Hello Kitty is inexplicable... it's that the top itself is inexplicable. As in, cannot be explicated. The best I could come up with was, "the decapitated head of Hello Kitty, strapped to his chest," but even that doesn't do it justice.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 4:36 PM
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I'm torn between Low and Heroes for "favorite Bowie album," but Ziggy does rock. Also Lodger and Scary Monsters. And Man Who Sold the World. And Diamond Dogs.

Damn he recorded a lot of great albums.


Posted by: Zadfrack | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 4:59 PM
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A Hello Kitty breastplate is beyond awesome, people.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 5:11 PM
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That shouldn't even need saying.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 5:11 PM
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The costume could only be completed by a set of Powerpuff Girl greaves.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 6:12 PM
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Pretty much the entire rock guitar canon is based around a couple of easy to finger shapes. There's the fiddly D thing already mentioned, the E minor pentatonic box at the 12th fret [every rock/blues-rock guitar solo, ever], the other A minor pentatonic box thing around the 8th fret [everyone who ever wanted to sound like BB King], the overdriven open-E chord + G riff, and the 'palm-muted pedal tone on the E or A string, plus root-5 diads' [all metal from about 1981 onwards].

The 12th fret E-minor pentatonic box plus the ability to make artificial harmonic squeals == rock, pretty much.

That said, all those clichés still sound great when played right.

Bowie always chose great guitar players, whether it was Mick Ronson on the early 70s stuff or Earl Slick and Carlos Alomar doing all that great spazzed-out funk stuff on the mid/late-70s tracks, or even the little snippets of Stevie Ray Vaughan in the early 80s.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11-17-06 6:57 PM
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