That's odd; my comments are showing up in the sidebar and on preview, but not in the comment window.
Okay, seems to be working for real now.
The comment window seems to be defaulting to the top when opened, rather than the bottom like it used to.
Also, when I post a comment it sends me right to that comment, which I don't think it used to do.
Yeah, everything isn't 100% perfect but we wanted to get on the new site and then iron stuff out. Getting off Pair is the top priority so we don't get charged for renewal.
Good grief, you two - get a room!
Seems to be working OK - I always got the comment window up top, so perhaps it's a browser thing.
Wouldn't load for a minute or two. Now it has and seems to be running well.
Weman you're as banned as you want to be.
The site works smoothly. It didn't keep my personal info, so I reentered that. I did like it better when comments went to the last line, but that's a small thing.
See, nothing funny.
It'll default to the last line again, soon as we get a chance to fix that. The remember info seems to work in IE, but not Firefox. Ben's looking at that.
For certain values of "working".
It's only because of the magic of /etc/hosts that I can even comment here.
FWIW it's remembering my data now that I've entered it again.
With regard to old comment links:
mod_rewrite is the most baffling thing in the world, but I think I'm making progress in removing perl from the process of redirecting to the correct page and doing everything via apache.
I'm happy that the annoying behavior of the "Name" edit box being selected when you open a comments window (which caused most if not all browsers to jump to the bottom of the thread and ignore keyboard scrolling commands) has gone away. What happened to all the scads of buttons that used to be under the comments edit? I never looked at them enough to even know what they said but they were kind of comforting. Weren't there like six of them or so? Only two now. And you guys call yourselves conservative!
Interesting: What Teo was trying to articulate above is, the comments thread will not reload after you press "Post" -- the browser uses the cached file unless you force it to reload. Apostropher's site has the same feature -- it's something to do with the "Good until" date of the thread.
same for me with the must-refresh-after-posting-to-see-comment thing.
Well, I have no idea. The only thing I did different on the first comment was click the "remember person info" box.
your conservatism should be gratified: as far as I can tell the whole thing is just as bad as it used to be.
And did Becks really write:
"Please note any weirdness in the comments of this post"?
Man, talk about your set-up lines. There's *always* weirdness in the comments of these posts.
23: "The great thing about mod_rewrite is it gives you all the configurability and flexibility of Sendmail. The downside to mod_rewrite is that it gives you all the configurability and flexibility of Sendmail.'' -- Brian Behlendorf, Apache Group.
I think that the refresh-after-poosting thing happens only the first time.
This is my third post and the first two are still not visible.
On the other hand, the third post and the other two just appeared without my refreshing. Either there's a time lag or it's a phase-of-the-moon system.
#38 appeared without refreshing. If this post appears without refreshing, I won't post about it.
39 seems like part of a logic puzzle. "Now, is John Emerson a knight or a knave?"
It remembered my info just fine, apparently. I'm in FF.
Emerson is not afraid to take this thread to 100 all by himself.
Apostropher's site has the same feature
That behavior is not consistent at my site. Also, <strike> doesn't work in my comments and I can't find anywhere to enable it.
Not that any of you heartless bastards care.
There's some weirdness with the RSS feeds, I think. The post+comments feed has 2 or 3 copies of each post, each with a few more comments. At least in Bloglines.
Maybe it was just confused by the trip to the new server?
Strike works for me (at least in preview). Also remembering details. Using FF2 (though the glitches above sound more like server stuff than browser).
You probably will get another copy of each of the RSS posts due to the move. The problem that's bugging me with the posts+comments feed is that the formatting is all stripped out. I'm going to see what I can do about that today.
45: I meant it doesn't work at my site.
I anticipate having the problems everyone had, then not. Just like they did then didn't.
Emerson may post my results.
The blazing speed! Yay for new servers!
Apo, in your blog control panel, under Settings, General, you should see "Limit Html Tag." If you select Use My Settings, you can enter the tags (separated by commas) that you want to allow.
Ok, finally the DNS at home has updated. I'm official.
The Tubes! Full of Trucks! Moving much faster now
[/Uncle Ted]
Interesting: What Teo was trying to articulate above is, the comments thread will not reload after you press "Post" -- the browser uses the cached file unless you force it to reload.
I think this might actually have something to do with the background-tasks nature of the updating of the thread—that is, the page might just not be updated yet, which would explain the inconsistency—though if you're sure it's a cached copy, then that's something else.
I really have to object to this latest update.
I took so much abuse yesterday that I think even Ben had a couple brief pangs of conscience.
ATM
Yay..it certainly seems quick when loading.
On account of 'ow I always get here late, the business of comments not being presented at the bottom of the list is actually a marginal improvement for me. Glad about the decision not to include the text of the post in comments.
cute... now THAT someone has thought about.
60 - Is that your Chandler voice?
How underwhelming. Where are the balloons?
Also, what's the cute thing someone has talked about? Waah!
Apparently it is impossible to get the error page. And by "impossible," I mean, jeez, I've tried twice already.
Oh, also I vote someone post transcripts of the Ogged/Ben altercations.
If you have to ask, you won't think it cute, B.
It didn't remember me, so this seems the perfect time to switch screen names. Anyone wanna trade? Sight unseen, of course.
People who change screennames are truly fex urbis, lex nirgendwo. And don't think I didn't just look up your IP, Player.
Don't hate the Player, hate the game.
67: Fictional accounts could be even better. For instance there are many was in which you might interpret the word "abuse".
69 -- "It didn't . . . of course" s/b Test.
70 -- Kiss my axe.
We ought to play musical names.
Damn it, I went to the trouble of announcing my name change a couple of days ago, and I could have done it fuln-style.
This from R&G are Dead:
Player: Uncertainty is the normal state. You’re nobody special.
Guil: But for God’s sake what are we supposed to do?
Player: Relax. Respond. That’s what people do. You can’t go through life questioning your situation at every turn.
Guil: But we don’t know what’s going on, or what to do with ourselves. We don’t know how to act.
Player: Act natural. You know why you’re here at least.
Guil: We only know what we’re told, and that’s little enough. And for all we know, it isn’t even true.
Player: For all anyone knows, nothing is. Everything has to be taken on trust; truth is only that which is taken to be true. It’s the currency of living. There may be nothing behind it, but it doesn’t make any difference so long as it is honoured. One acts on assumptions. What do you assume?
isn't this right around where R & G are alone on stage together, and one says to the other:
"Shouldn't we do something--*constructive*?"
to which the other responds:
"you had in mind perhaps a short, blunt, human pyramid?"
My lone acting credit was as a cast member in a production of R&G are Dead. I was a horrible Claudius, but I loved it.
I would love be in an R&G production, that seems like a really fun play to perform.
It's updated! Satan is indeed merciful!
We ought to play musical names.
Good idea. Now can we please get around to chimpeaching the chimperor?
81 -- I will, believe me I will.
Ooh cool, somebody's little coding hands have been busy.
Testing: But for God's sake what are we supposed to do?
And another test: But for God's sake what are we supposed to do?
for God's sake what are we supposed to do?
Look you've been around the Mineshaft long enough, you shouldn't need to ask...
A note: Clicking on the word "comments" in the "LATEST COMMENTS" sidebar no longer takes you to the bottom of the comments page.
Death, where is thy sting?
I find the first sentence of 90 to be false but concur with the second.
Not unlike "Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?".
Funny line from tonight's Simpsons (reproduced so you don't need to bother with the other 30 minutes): "That's it, Franzen! I think your nose needs some Corrections!"
Yes! The contagion continues!
(The comment box is giant, now. It makes feel so small. (And now it's normal again. This all seems so familiar.))
Didn't you ever see Boomtown? Home invasion, bitch. Now where's the handmade cinderblock lamp?
I would hereby like to note some weirdness. My new boyfriend appears to be allergic to me. Is this a possible reaction to intimate contact shortly after having had surgery? What do we know here about immune systems? Please supply possible explanations.
It could be something to do with the fur -- are you shedding?
It's just now getting to be winter. I hope not! I need that stuff.
It is actually possible to be allergic to one's sex partner.
Other than confirming that possibility, I have no advice.
Isn't that pretty cruelly unfortunate? Would popping some anti-histamines help?
I guess it couldn't hurt. I seriously doubt that's the problem, though. It's *gotta* be something else. Allergy to latex? To spermicide? To that cheap cheerleader outfit you insist on wearing?
Is there latex involved? Many people are allergic to latex frottements.
Could we get some idea of the symptoms he's having? That might help in narrowing down possible causes.
He's just not that into you.
Also possible: your perfume/deodorant/soap/detergent/clothing/carpet, etc.
Not a latex problem, not a spermacide problem. Thought it was a chafing/heat-related issue, but we've (lamentably) cut back to mere human levels of sexual duration/intensity, and he still breaks out in a painful rash.
Shorter Teo: "Is, uh,... Is your wife a goer, eh? Know whatahmean, know whatahmean, nudge nudge, know whatahmean, say no more?"
106: After sex, he gets raised, red bumps all along his abdomen, upper thighs, parts, etc., that get worse over the next day or so after sex. His doctor suggests washing afterwards with anti-bacterial soap, which he does. Still, bumps occur. My detergent is that hippy Ecover stuff, everything I eat is organic and hormone-free, and while I have seriously considered the prospect that he's not that into me, he keeps calling, after all.
You and your honey need to establish a more rigorously controlled experiment. Start with showering before going to bed, and then not touching each other all night.
That's just cruel, JM! Surely that's not the control?
111 -- ooh, that sounds awful. Has it been going on since you started seeing one another? Or could it be some kind of seasonal thing?
Actually, it sounds like he might just have over-dry skin.
Also -- does it make a difference at whose house the sex is had? Could it be an allergy to something at your apartment?
It happens in both apartments, and we just started dating about six weeks ago. I thought, at first, it was my stubble, so I've let everything grow in. The only thing left that I can think of is that my body chemistry is somehow toxic to him. Hell, it's often toxic to me. (I break out in my armpits quite often.) But I've never seen it happen to a sexual partner.
That sounds like no fun at all, Bear, not least because the thought of my partner rushing into the bathroom to scrub herself vigorously with anti-bacterial soap after sex would not fill be with contentment.
Dry skin, or linens-related reaction are my guesses.
"be" s/b "me" obviously, I do not have a cold.
I've never noticed any dryness in his nether regions, but maybe moisturizing pre-sex would help. I will also see if he'll take some benadryl beforehand.
obviously, I do not have a cold
Well I'll take your word for it -- but I can't understand what you think makes it obvious. These tubes are not the see-thru sort.
Hand the man a tube of cortisone and tell him to quit whining?
I think his bravery in the face of certain weeklong discomfort has been rather remarkable. Unfortunately, though, this paces the intervals of new-relationship sex rather further apart than one would wish.
B is sympathy incarnate, as usual.
I know, I'm in a not-helpful mood this evening for some reason. In a less bratty vein, maybe you should see if switching yourself to a ph-neutral kind of soap makes a difference?
123.--It's more like: does the man drink his eight glasses of water per day and regularly put on lotion after he gets out of the shower?
(I'll confess that sometimes I get a little rash on my belly after sex, especially when I'm first dating a person or haven't been with them for a long time. I tend to have dry, delicate skin. The rashes usually don't last, and then they stop showing up after a very little while. I've never had much of my skin affected though, and it's never been all that painful; maybe your guy is experiencing something completely different.)
It could be that I use a French lavender soap that was a gift from my ex. It has ex-boyfriend germs all over it.
maybe your guy is experiencing something completely different
Like for instance.
Also--benedryl before sex? One dose of benedryl, and I am slurring my words and seeing fairies in the overhead lighting. That does not sound like a first resort to me.
Anything else being used like a body cream or lotion? See this for example.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15059109
methyldibromo glutaronitrile is a common preservative in cosmetics. No necessarily the exact culprit, but perhaps it's something similar.
I will check everything I use. I doubt it's any kind of soap, makeup, or perfume, since he only breaks out in the one region of contact where I use none of those things (no problems with making out, snuggling, etc.), but I appreciate seeing this. It could be my shaving cream or something silly like that.
Also, the breakout seems worst near his surgery scar, which could just be that the skin is newer and more sensitive there, but it spreads farther around.
Not to draw attention away from AWB's putative allergenicity, but I just wanted to note that I just took my wet, no-knead, Dutch-oven bread out of the oven and while I have not yet tasted it (too hot still), it looks and feels like one of the best loaves of bread I have ever baked at home. And that's with over-proofing it and the oven temperature being a little higher than it was supposed to.
I heard a story once about Joe DiMaggio running into Paul Simon after "Mrs Robinson" came out. The Wallopin' Wop: "What do you mean, where'd I go? I just did a Mr Coffee commercial."
In this anecdote is contained America.
Ooh! I wanted to try making that bread, CA. With testimonials from you and LB, I have to, now.
I ran into Amy this morning and she was like Yeah, everybody's talking about that recipe now, I've got to try it out.
unsympathetic as she is, bphd has a point. cortisone cream is handy. jackmormon's upbringing rendered her over-sensitive to benadryl, but I think popping a few before sex sounds reasnable. and now that I reflect I think probably no one should ever take my advice about reasonable drug consumption. hey, did you guys know you can scrape the goo out of a fentanyl patch, the kind they use on late-stage cancer patients, and then apply it to your mucous membranes to overcome the time-release feature? have you been doing that AWB? maybe he's allergic to fentanyl.
Rehab sounds educational!
We've tried cortisone, neosporin, etc., to little avail.
Also--benedryl before sex? One dose of benedryl, and I am slurring my words and seeing fairies in the overhead lighting.
For some people, that's a feature, not a bug.
I was a little disappointed in the flavor of the no-knead bread, though it was very good when considered as a ratio to the amount of effort involved. Next time I think I will make a little pre-ferment first, with a fraction of the flour, water, and yeast, no salt, to sit around for a few extra hours and then added to the final dough, or do some extra time in the fridge.
In this anecdote is contained America.
So true.
What do you mean, where'd I go? I just did a Mr Coffee commercial.
That's hilarious. I had heard that DiMaggio actually took the line kind of personally, but didn't know that he actually confronted Simon about it.
Not that I'm tempted to write or anything, but whatever happened to "Ask the mineshaft"?
AWB, forgive me if this is really obvious, but does he remember having gotten sweat rashes from anything in the past? I'm thinking specifically of sports like cycling where you're wearing close-fitting clothes. If he's susceptible to rashes in general, then even something subtle in your body chemistry, combined with sweat and close contact, might be enough to trigger it.
Tailshrub -- I just tried a slice and was pretty pleased. But I was not really concentrating on the flavor -- my first reaction to bread is always to the texture, which was very pleasant. I'll check back tomorrow and see what I think about the flavor.
Not that I'm tempted to write or anything
Typical liberal, criticizing without working towards a solution.
148: That was mainly Tia's thing, and she hasn't been around much lately.
148 -- Tia abandoned us. So it has turned into a matter of hijacking non-"Ask the Mineshaft" threads to get your pressing quandaries resolved.
148: Tia used to do it, but she's taking a little break. I got w-lfs-n to post a question of mine recently and I got some great advice. Basically, I think anyone could ask for a dilemma to be posted.
149: I have asked him about rashes, and he doesn't remember ever seeing anything like this before. This is why I'm tempted to think it has something to do with the surgery or possible interactions with drugs that might still be in his system from that. I don't know of any food allergies he might have, like, if something that was in my system is passing through my fluids and irritating him.
jackmormon's upbringing rendered her over-sensitive to benadryl, but I think popping a few before sex sounds reasnable
He is the allergic one here. He has to take the benadryl, not her.
But this reminds me of something. Orgasms cause histamine to be released, which is why a lot of people get flushed, etc. Maybe he's reacting to his own histamine. The solution is obviously to stop letting him orgasm.
You didn't answer this one before, AWB: does he regularly put skin care stuff on? Like lotion or body oil?
I know it sounds totally prissy, but especially if he's recently had surgery and is now having unpleasant rashes, he might look into it.
157: Orgasms cause histamine to be released
Really? That's fascinating! Maybe that's why I never notice any particular irritation during sex, even if we're at it for a long time, but afterwards, he's always really red.
158: I am not fully aware of his regimen, but I don't think he moisturizes, apart from using moisturizing body wash and whatever ointments he's been applying.
As a control, AWB, you could try remaining clothed (or possibly wear latex bodysuits) to see if it's a skin-to-skin contact thing.
I suggest this in the interest of science.
Okay, all these controls involve not touching or having sex. We have had at least a few hours in each other's presence before sex and a breakout has never appeared during that time.
That is, isn't there some possible control involving full contact nudity? Come on!
164 -- didn't gswift's suggestion in 157 fit the bill?
I have a lot fewer skin irritation problems when I use something like this every time after I get out of the shower. (I got mine at Fairway.)
The (bread) texture is good, I agree.
I envision a comical sequence of lying on top of one another, motionless, for stretches of time measured in ten minute intervals. "Okay, that was twenty minutes, now let's disengage and check for irritation."
Hmm, now the relevant question seems to be whether he's had sex with anyone else since his surgery.
164: I think not letting him orgasm would lead to extreme grumpiness on both our parts.
Maybe that's why I never notice any particular irritation during sex, even if we're at it for a long time, but afterwards, he's always really red.
Crap, now that I think about it, the histamine release might be during arousal. It's in the process somewhere damnit.
166: That looks helpful.
168: Nope, just me, so no comparison.
Nope, just me, so no comparison.
This suggests an obvious experiment...
I use a French lavender soap.
You know, it's possible to be allergic to lavender. Have you tried switching soaps?
(AWB, is the link to your blog purposely disabled in your signature, or have you been domain-hijacked?)
If you look closely at the URL, you'll see that she hasn't been domain-hijacked.
AWB: Might be a) your internal pH or b) thrush [candida overgrowth] or c) if he's on medication, he may be having a problem with sensitivity to substances in his own semen.
Aha! Therefore, further control study: masturbation.
Witt -- I'm just dumb and mistyped it. Thanks for letting me know!
177, 178: I'm guessing it's probably my pH, as he has no problems with masturbation. Thrush? No idea.
181: It got really sluggish at one moment, but no error messages at all. I like the no-reload if there are no new comments. It saves my dial-up ass from more frequent pwnage.
Yeah, Ogged, I get a weird rash on my genitals when I try to comment.
I would try some of the other ideas---that he use cortisone or vitamin E-oil, or look into his own histimine reactions---before trying to control your own internal ph balance for this new guy. Especially since he's recently come through a major trauma; it's so much more likely that it's his body having the freak-out.
You should try commenting on some other blogs, Labs.
I think it's your stubble, Ogged, or maybe your acidic pH.
FL should try typing a comment into the submission box but not permitting himself to click "post".
Anyone had any errors when posting?
Got a message once that comment was "awaiting approval" or something.
Surgery usually involves a course of powerful IV antibiotics. This can wipe out one's usual and customary micro flora and fauna, and allow opportunistic invasions by undocumented immigrant bacteria. Maybe it'll resolve on its own when his ecosystem becomes more robust. Or try building a fence.
Oh, that's a good point. Maybe he just needs to start eating more acidophilous.
If he's just had surgery, and has had a bunch of antibiotics, and is still recovering, chances are everything's a little off. It sounds like an outbreak of hives, and if gswift is correct that orgasm releases histamines, and there's perspiration, and his body's not 100%, it could overreact to the stress of sex.
190, 191: That's the kind of thing I am hoping it turns out to be. I suggested it to him, and he had asked his doctor about it (though she didn't seem to think that was it). If he's just low on good bacteria, he'll eventually level out again. I'll see if I can get him to eat yogurt.
On the whole, I think this is the sort of problem he feels the need to inform me of, but a little odd about involving me in the solution for, in that he doesn't want me to worry about him or feel badly for him, especially given the fact that he's just come through a pretty traumatic health event. I feel like I'm pretty good with dealing with health issues without belittling or pitying, but he doesn't necessarily know that.
I don't know that acidophilous will help with skin bacteria. Perhaps burying him for a few days in a good, rich compost would help.
195: We've only been seeing each other for six weeks! This seems like commitment.
In order that the composting treatment may take place indoors or out, make sure you've got a high concentration of red wiggler worms.
The comments were funnier at the old host.
And it's been a straight-line progression, as you've suggested many times yourself.
New site? Very nice, how much?
Now that that comment brings the site to sub-Fark levels, surely it can only improve.
I'll see if I can get him to eat yogurt.
There's a better delivery route, you know.
Yeah, but first you'd have to find a penis, then dip it in the yogurt... it's just too much effort.
Yeah, that's pretty much how it works.
Delurking to comment a little on Ms. Bear's problem:
(1) Given the speed with which the symptoms appear, it's really unlikely that it's an infection, so don't go trying to convince your beau to try a yogurt bath.
(2) The suggestion that it's a heat rash or allergic response made possible by the discombobulated post-surgical state of his body sounds more promising. Here's a more pleasant experiment than abstinence: Try some positions that don't involve a lot of body contact, or that involve distinctive patterns of contact, and see if he breaks out less or does so in different places.
208: Thanks, bza. I've noticed it seems worst after I've been on top. I think he might be loathe to do all the work, but in the interests of science, it is inevitable!
I know I'm not the only woman to object to being on top on the grounds that it's too much work. this could be your excuse for skiving off.
Hey Ben and Becks, right now when you post a comment the page that gets loaded is http://www.unfogged.com/archives/comments_(id).html#(comment number). I think if the Post button were linked to http://www.unfogged.com/archives/comments_(id).html?#(comment number), that that might possibly fix the not-reloading thing.
...I didn't mean that as a signal for everybody to stop commenting. Really -- not intended at all as a reproach.
it's too much work
Alameida is teh lazy.
On the theory that it might be an eczema/dry skin/chafing thing, has he tried a heavy-duty lotion beforehand, like Aquaphor, which is basically just aerated Vaseline? It cleared up some patches of eczema Newt was having in no time flat.
A long-shot question, just based on the description of the rash as painful bumps; I'm wondering if he does anything to depilate the area in question -- shaving, waxing? Because that sounds like infected hair follicles. If he does, this is pretty obvious, but quitting that would be a worthwhile thing to try.
And, you know, there's no reason not to go to an actual dermatologist -- they go to med school for a reason.
Whoops, forgot the new site doesn't know who I am yet.
Clownæ, it doesn't always not reload. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. You know what I think is going on? The same thing I said is going on before.
You could be right, Ben. You could be right.
215: No depilation. He's as God made him.
