Re: Vote!

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11:51 AM, December 09, 2006
Ann Althouse said...
I hope people here realize the importance of crushing TMV (which launched an idiotic -- and immoderate! -- attack on me).

All I can say is, what the hell?


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:14 PM
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When do you vote, make sure to be whimsical about it.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:17 PM
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Would it be better or worse if Tom wrote a hack for the voting app and we crushed Althouse nefariously?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:20 PM
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Yes, intent is everything. I was pleased to see that Althouse's 7,000 vote lead has shrunk to about 200. I'm so ashamed of myself for finding this amusing.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:20 PM
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Ogged, that's an excellent question. Althouse's commenters are bragging about voting from multiple machines, and besides the set-up/vote every day makes the whole thing pretty much meaningless, as does the LGM/EK/FL pile-on. Yet is there something special about the hand-stuffed ballot box, as opposed to the machine-made crap that's so much easier? Hard to say. Thorstein Veblen would tell us, but he's dead.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:23 PM
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TMV makes a good point that this is all corruptive to the whole process of the weblog awards.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:28 PM
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Reassure me that you're kidding, Michael.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:30 PM
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I have never followed these awards. At all. If one hypothesized that they were alright before, this could be seen as a bad thing.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:31 PM
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How can I see the total votes, though? (You mentioned A is no longer 7000 votes ahead, but the total i see is in the 2000s.)


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:33 PM
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Michael, sorry, I should have typed 700.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:38 PM
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purple finger for me.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:39 PM
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3: they're cleverly using a flash app to handle the voting, I'm afraid, and something other than cookies and IPs to track whether you've voted (some kind of flash value store? I don't know that much about it). Might be possible to sniff the vote-sending request, but if they went to this much trouble they probably secured that, too. So yeah, I'm afraid that hand-stuffing is the way to go.

Of course, we could put some kind of javascript alert on unfogged reminding people to vote every day if they haven't already.

Upon reflection, I'm much too enthusiastic about defrauding online polls.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:42 PM
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Right. It's hilarious that all this kerfluffle has resulted in ~4,500 votes total.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:43 PM
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Should TMV take the prize, we should make sure that every blog in the world links to the results.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:47 PM
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Hmm. It might be specific to your browser, so if you're bored and running both ie and the fox you could try the other. (I think I was able to.)


Posted by: mjh | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:49 PM
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That's what surprised me, Michael-- AA's been egging her readers on for days. How many people read that thing, anyway?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:49 PM
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Blog awards are ridiculous anyway, so I support the anti-Althouse voting drive on the grounds that it further demonstrates the utter ridiculousness of the whole thing.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 2:49 PM
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Did anyone else think that five more days of voting is going to lend itself to either campaign fatigue or someone cracking under the pressure of keeping up something so trivial for so long? (and I don't necessarily mean AA - this could be what drives FL around the bend)


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:00 PM
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A serious danger, Mike. I was planning on just writing a couple of vote blegs in advance and scheduling them for future posting, but that function doesn't seem to be working. It looks like I'll have to risk madness.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:04 PM
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15: I tried it in Safari and it knew I had voted in FF. And it still knew when I sent the Safari traffic through a proxy. Clever!


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:16 PM
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Looks like Unfogged Legionnaires has put TMV on top. Great vagina, everyone.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:23 PM
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Once a year, the Great Vagina comes to the most sincere cock joke emporium in the world...


Posted by: yeti | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:26 PM
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S-V agreement are not my strong suit, apparantly.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:26 PM
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I suppose you could uninstall and reinstall flash to see if you could vote again, but that seems a little drastic.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:27 PM
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If, in one day, TMV managed to surpass the results of Althouse's days of heckling, by tomorrow its lead should be unschlagbar.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:31 PM
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Alright, I went and voted. TMV is up to 2432, with Althouse trailing at 2298.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:38 PM
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12 should not be ashamed of his enthusiasm. Ballot box hacking could not be more American - it combines democracy and invention togehter in one handy activity! Yankee Ingenuity at its finest!


Posted by: Trevor | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:49 PM
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So much fun to vote! I've never even read TMV.


Posted by: DaveB | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:50 PM
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As if one could trust a hedgepig to tell anyone what's American.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:56 PM
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TheModVo is ahead by >200 votes as of right now this very moment.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 3:57 PM
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I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would care about winning a weblog award?

I guess it could increase traffic, but do that many people really go read the blogs that win this awards?

The whole thing seems silly.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:03 PM
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The whole thing seems silly.

That's, uhm, the point.


Posted by: Pooh | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:11 PM
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Let me see if I understand: TMV doesn't care about winning a meaningless award. Althouse wants to win a meaningless award, just because that's her f'd-up personality. And Labs doesn't want Althouse to win a meaningless award, just because she wants to win it, and he wants to be mean, because he doesn't like her f'd-up personailty? And the only benefit Labs gets from this is the joy of seeing Althouse unhappy?

No thanks.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:19 PM
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Christ on a cracker, it's a voting system that allows you to vote as many times as you want as long as you vote only once per day per internet footprint thingamajiggy.

American Idol has higher audience voting standards, Ann. Get the fuck over yourself already.

(It needed to be said. Again.)


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:21 PM
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The benefit Labs gets isn't seeing Althouse unhappy, it's seeing whatever insanity Althouse spews out as a result of that unhappiness.

The argument from aggregate mirth is one Labs has made before.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:24 PM
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Brock, you might not be cut out for this place.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:29 PM
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I give a big thumbs up to seeing Althouse types unhappy.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:33 PM
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Not quite, Brock. While I do think she has an f'ed up personality, and I don't like her f'ed up personality, this wouldn't be enjoyable if that were all of the explanation. It's more along these lines: she has very clearly and explicitly made this completely meaningless thing into a test of will and gone on about how very important is to crush her opposition because they have the temerity to treat her with less respect than she feels entitled to. I find some amusement in creating a state of affairs that counts as a bad thing only by the odd standards that make her such an unappealing personality.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:34 PM
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Plus, as w-lfs-n notes, it's that she always goes with the most petty, least self-aware responses to these provocations. The odds of fun are high.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:35 PM
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And to clarify my 37, it's not that I have an inherent desire to see people unhappy. It's because, as Labs said, it's the inherent ridiculousness of the circumstances here.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:41 PM
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Atrios just picked this up. I wonder if Insty will do the same.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:42 PM
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Ah, the proxy war. How appropriate, this week.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:45 PM
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I don't know why I find FL's' dislike of Althouse so endearing. (It's not because she *especially* bugs me--none of the criticisms are wrong, but for whatever reason she gets under my skin less than other people.)


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:48 PM
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This Blogofascist subversion of democracy brought to you by the People's Republic of Eschaton.


Posted by: Trevor | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 4:55 PM
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Thorstein Veblen would tell us, but he's dead.

I think this is less Veblen's beat than Gustav Stickley's, but he's dead too.

Anyway, it's Plunkitt of Tammany Hall who exposited the virtues of "honest graft."


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 5:21 PM
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I was thinking of Veblen's discussion of the preference for handmade goods over ostensibly more effective mass-produced items as a manifestation of conspicuous consumption.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 6:21 PM
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From the same comment thread:

Just voted again. There are several categories over there where the voting is being played with, and yours is one of them...If they can't fix this, the contest will become meaningless.

My emphasis. Heh-indeed.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 6:29 PM
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Seriously -- is there some kind of justification for the vote-once-a-day scheme? That just seems so weird and wrong-headed.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 6:38 PM
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(Not that internet-voting awards are a particularly meaningful genre to begin with)


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 6:39 PM
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21: Unfogged Legionnaires has put TMV on top

23: S-V agreement are not my strong suit

On the contrary -- Unfogged Legionnaires is properly singular -- You were talking about the disease, right?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 6:45 PM
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Upon reflection, I'm somewhat disappointed the title of this post isn't "Vote or Die!"


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 6:47 PM
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Pandagon is urging its voters to vote for TMV, too.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 6:50 PM
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Prediction: After she loses, Althouse will claim that all of her posts were merely to provoke "the partisan leftiesphere" (or some such) into mean-spirited insanity. So by losing, she really won...


Posted by: Pooh | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 7:02 PM
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The only solution is for all of us to become very good friends with her. Years will pass. Then one day, having watched our children grow and our pets slowly die, and our pudgy little grandchildren poke around our rocking chairs, one perfect August afternoon, we will unhook our breathing apparatus and turn to her and say: "We have always detested you. Always." And she will never understand.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 7:34 PM
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Well done, text.


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 7:40 PM
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I thought perhaps I'd undercooked it.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 8:17 PM
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Dammit, I wish we could have taken the Karl Rove "Every vote above a 1-vote majority is wasted" approach. Now that Atrios and Majitkhsigska are involved, Althouse has an easy explanation for her failure to achieve maximum prom queen status.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 8:18 PM
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Labs and Althouse


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 8:22 PM
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Spot on. Except Fill me up, Labs, good job is ogged's line.


Posted by: Fenton Crackshell | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 8:34 PM
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moi


Posted by: standpipe | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 8:34 PM
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Is this to say someone's made you a mechanical suit, sb? For me, I always appreciate a "good job" whether it be ogged or whoever else. It's hard work sometimes.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 8:53 PM
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Tia, you're a genius.

53: I think this is as good a prediction as any; it would be great if it happens, because while she often seems to claim that her words mean something apart from their meaning, the more obvious this is, the greater the hilarity.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 9:02 PM
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O ears in flight a-flapping, O prehensile snoot,
How can we know the suitor from the suit?


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 9:07 PM
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Bionic Dumbo Gentleman Caller. There's your fucking band name.


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 9:07 PM
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Jesus, Tia, that's funny.


Posted by: DaveB | Link to this comment | 12-12-06 10:35 PM
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And the only benefit Labs gets from this is the joy of seeing Althouse unhappy?

No thanks.

Counterpoint:

Yes please!


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 12-13-06 2:36 AM
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The blogosphere really does do great things. Althouse will be lucky to get half the votes that TMV does.

I wonder what the odds are that Althouse will recognize that this is one of those things that happens to people who take themselves too seriously? More likely, TMV will publically decline the award and Althouse will be displaying a Weblog Awards Winner banner on her page next week. (But without giving any credit to TMV for basically casting the decisive vote himself.)


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 12-13-06 6:51 AM
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By the way:

* Vote totals are subject to periodic correction for identified cheating.

These guys really do like their elections rigged, don't tey?


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 12-13-06 6:52 AM
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67: The nightmare continues when she lists "Weblog Awards Winner" on her CV, failing to note that the thing is a farce.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-13-06 7:31 AM
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I believe you mean "Weblog Awards Laureate"


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-13-06 7:49 AM
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She can put it right under the NRCC Lawprof of the Year award.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 12-13-06 7:52 AM
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Wow! There sure are a lot of us in on this! You guys, Ezra, Amanda, Majikthise... all united to make Althouse pay for her torture-cheerleading and boob-mockery.


Posted by: Neil the Ethical Werewolf | Link to this comment | 12-13-06 12:46 PM
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