I'm too busy to hate today, but I did find out yesterday that we'll be having a girl.
I'm rooting for the Colts (really for Dungy). I realize that makes me a bad person. But I'm doing it anyway.
Congrats, Apo! Wow. You are so fucked in sixteen years.
Apo, the arc bends slowly, but it bends toward justice. Some future horndog-- equivalent to Young Apo in many ways-- will drive you to distress, I predict.
Barf, Tim.
What's most disturbing about the linked letter is the pains the guy goes to to *absolve* America from what's been done to him. Jeez.
And congratulations, Apo. Don't listen to Tim.
Shouldn't we be thinking that the apostropherette youngling will be leading fumbling boys to corruption?
From the first link:
President George W. Bush acknowledged that Iraq is more unstable now than when the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was in power
...
``We didn't find the weapons we thought we would find or the weapons everybody thought he had,'' Bush said. ``But he was a significant source of instability.''
It's like he's not even trying anymore.
I regret and apologize for any accidental agreement that might have occurred between myself and the B.
I love Ray Lewis. I do not love Payton Manning. I express this desire: to see Payton Manning see the ferocious Lewis sack coming, to see that it is somehow made more ferocious, more terrifying, by the fact that Manning took the time to recite more or less all of the Iliad at the line of scrimmage, and, finally, to see that Manning realizes this too.
11: It must be tough, Ogged, to be so committed to being wrong all the time, just out of spite.
I love Ray Lewis
Really? Didn't he murder a couple of guys and/or testify against his friends?
My #4 is broad enough to include ogged's #9. B's mind is so shackled by the conventions she so often decries that she chose the most conventional reading available of #4. Telling.
Didn't he murder a couple of guys and/or testify against his friends?
I like how those are comparable sins to you.
Yeah, totally. Murdering a couple of guys, no problem, but I'll back off from the love if he testified.
What's up with all the Manning hate? He has a chance to be one of the all-time great QBs.
Ackerman's the only one who understands.
I hate Manning because he lost a big playoff game and blamed his teammates. There's been other stuff, but that's the one that sticks in my mind.
16: I, of course, realized that possibility. Nonetheless, if you intend something other than the conventional meaning, you bear the responsibility of making that clear. Otherwise the truth of your statement gets swallowed up in convention, merely buttressing the status quo.
That is to say, intent doesn't matter.
I kinda wish the guy had blamed it on the government, but I can see that he's not exactly in a position to favor nuance.
23: To be fair, the government didn't really have much to do with the blown blocking assignments.
Nonetheless, if you intend something other than the conventional meaning, you bear the responsibility of making that clear. Otherwise the truth of your statement gets swallowed up in convention, merely buttressing the status quo.
That is to say, intent doesn't matter.
Someone doesn't believe in irony or, indeed, much any form of rhetorical sophistication!
21: God how I hate the notion of "class" as it applies to sports. I'm much happier that Manning was honest (and, more importantly, accurate) than I would have been if he'd sounded like the interview scene from Bull Durham.
25: Or possibly someone enjoys playing the fool for other people's amusement. Someone who never gets any credit.
blown blocking assignments
What?! w-lfs-n got some? Unfuckingacceptable, people.
24: Well, you have to admit, the play-calling chip the CIA put in his brain was pretty sweet.
In a perfect world, Manning would retire without winning a SuperBowl, take the inevitable broadcasting job, then get in an on-air fistfight with Dan Marino.
Manning, schmanning. How can root against Dungy?
Congratulations, apo!
This means you'll finally get to drink an Exorcist!
Or possibly someone enjoys playing the fool for other people's amusement. Someone who never gets any credit.
You're too subtle, B. To give you credit, we'd have to tell you were playing.
33: It's easy. If I look dumb, it's a joke. If not, then it isn't.
No one could be joking that frequently
I think what made the famous Manning moment so despicable was his transparent trying to have it both wasy: deflecting blame and posing as a leader at the same time. If I recall the line was "I'm trying to be a good teammate here, but we had protection problems all day." Really, is trying to be a good teammate uppermost in your mind, Payton?
That said, I am basically with SCMTim. It's hard to root against Dungy, especially after world-class irritant John Gruden bogarted his Superbowl with Tampa. It's yet more difficult to root against Dungy if it simultaneously means rooting for Brian Billick.
1) congratulations apo!
2) go bears. or saints.
I was glad the colts won but honestly I don't care about football unless I watch a Jets game with two or more Jets fans...they're just so endearing....(when it's just with one he will just pace and mutter to himself since he knows I don't really understand, which is less endearing).
3) long shot question: does anyone know any lawyers in greater NYC who do pro bono asylum work (or would be interested) & would like to add to the "huge debt of gratitude" Iraqis owe to Americans? I know about the Human Rights First network and the various clinics...I think those all have bad waiting lists though, so I'm randomly asking around. If so email me (I modified the address a bit to outwit spammers).
I don't have any of that dreaded sixteen stuff with my daughter of that age. Mine is a perpetual delight. Congratulations.
You're just saying that because she reads the site.
I was conflicted, because I too hate Peyton, but I do like Dungy, and in fact was talking with a friend how the perfect Colts victory would be Dungy winning decisively with Manning out with the grippe.
This was like that. But dull. dull. dull.
Also, if Peyton's head was detached from his body, is there a 'he' present that would notice? All signs point to 'no'.
Yes, congratulations, Apo. Sixteen year old daughters can be pure joy (I can say that becasue mine doesn't read the site).
I'm conflicted about the Bears game. I would like Lovie Smith to win, but then ogged would be happy. I settle for a Bears win today and the team's decimation against the Saints.
A vote for Ogged is a vote for Rex Grossman.
Passes be upon him.
Although -- I kinda doubt that Ogged can chuck it 60-some yards in the air, like Grossman can.
If allowed Grossman's complete disregard for where the ball actually lands, I bet ogged would do better than you think.
I wouldn't mind seeing some Grossman-style party photos of Ogged, though.
It is kinda odd how Joe Buck can't seem to remember Rex's name.
I hear ogged can throw frisbees pretty hard.
As long as he's not one of those guys who calls it a "disc."
Yayyyy! Today's silver dollar word!
There is something that really irks me about the Seahawks... I want to like them, I really do. The slightly-balding Hasselbeck, the goofy Alexander, linebackers with names like Loofa. And yet, and yet...
This is turning into a fun game. If the Seahawks end up losing because of Hasselback, it'll be perfect.
Is it just me, or does Holmgren bear a "slight" resemblance to this guy?
Anyway, the outcome of this game is academic since neither of these teams look like they could touch the Saints.
I just can't imagine the Ain'ts in the SuperBowl
No harder to imagine than the Red Sox winning a World Series, I guess.
Nothing is hard to imagine, when you have the Boy Genius himself at the helm. Who's the general manager of the Saints? Some guy named "Mickey?"
I'm absolutely rooting for Nathan Vasher and Cedric Benson.
A real fan would re-christen himself 'Armvasher', for at least the day.
It really is too bad the NFL hasn't adopted college football's overtime scheme.
Gotta love the replay they showed, though.
I'm at work, not really writing this stupid report. Didn't see it.
Ah! That's too bad.
They showed the replay of the coin-toss in overtime from a couple of years ago, Matt Hasselbeck after winning the toss says "We'll take the ball, and we're going to win."
And then a few minutes later, he threw an interception to Al Harris which was returned for a touchdown. Packers, baby! It was a great moment.
Game over, man. Nice kick by the Bears kicker.
I was just going to write, "Somewhere, ogged is happy," and there he is. Ah, it will make his pain next week all the sweeter.
Yyeeeeaaaaahhhh! They are who we thought they were! Crown their asses!
Rex Grossman has really nice eyebrows.
Phil Simms says, "Tom Brady can stick it in some tight spots. ... He can throw it long, he can throw it soft."
This is awesome:
This chick might as well go gay because no dude is gonna wanna follow Tom Brady. He won the Super Bowl three times, he's richer than most countries and he looks like a damn model. I made a list of the guys who have more to offer a girl than Tom Brady:
1. Bruce Wayne
And that was pretty much it.
LT. Jeebus. Why is New England even trying?
Um, you mean, the post?
Honestly, ogged, I don't know how you read WWTDD. The comments there shed a dark shadow over all the other content.
Reading WWTDD for the comments is like reading Playboy for the articles.
85: I just like the use of Bruce Wayne. I probably quoted too much to make that clear.
You shouldn't read the comments anywhere but at Unfogged. I actually wrote to YouTube to ask whether there was a way to link to videos without comments, but there isn't. But the linked post at wwtdd is awesome.
Goddamnit. A two-minute drive worked to perfection. I hate the effing Pats.
Stopped them on fourth down, and then fumbled it right back. God I hate the effing Pats.
Sweet, sweet Jesus I hate the Pats.
It's like this every week. Somehow, some-way, better teams than the Patriots just self-de-fucking-struct in the fourth quarter of every game that matters.
I grew up in Panthers territory, and was raised by a Packers fan, so those are my teams. I was alienated by the Pats, OTOH, when they ditched Drew Bledsoe during their first super bowl run, my first year in Boston. As soon as Tom Brady started playing well, everyone wanted to kick Bledsoe to the curb... so I hate the Pats fans, and by extension the Pats.
But it's been a hard six years to be a Patriots Hater.
And I have a special loathing for Belichick and Brady, also.
GODDDASNDTHALSDKLFKLJAKL;SJDFSDAKLFJ1!!.
And also, holding. But I guess they don't call that anymore.
But it's been a hard six years to be a Patriots Hater.
I'll bet it has been.
I like Belicheck a lot, but Brady must have done a deal with the Devil, and I'm not sure that's something that should be overlooked. (And don't you think that Phil Simms is an underrated color man?)
I want to like Belichick, I really do. He fits in with the whole "mathematical approach to sports" thing that I like so much. He's a former econ major coaching a sports team, he should be my hero.
But no, no: I definitely loathe him. I think it's the way that his teams break my heart, over and over again.
Here it comes again...
Yeah. Yeah, there it is.
Now we just need an interception on a desperate Philip Rivers pass, and this one'll be done, just like all the others.
damnit.
It's 3rd down and 5 at like the 14 or whatever with 2 minutes to play, the score tied, and they run the ball? Hello, pass underneath!
m, jeez
Yeah, he's not going to get a chance to kick this one.
Also: "Football is a reactionary game." -- Phill Simms, I think.
m, where's my goddamned junta?
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.....
GODDAMNIT.
Brady is a bit of a reactionary, certainly.
Physically painful. Schottenheimer should just fake his own death.
Although, as between Brady and Manning, I'm afraid I'm going to have to take Brady.
Very much looking forward to the Brady/Manning match-up.
Now I have to root for fucking Peyton to make it to the Superbowl. Uggh.
Do we have to explain everything to you, Ogged?
114: Didn't you read the bit to which linked?
Has he done something, or is it just that he's good-looking and doesn't crack under pressure?
That would be ok, but that and a Republican?
Well, I think this game counts as something. Also the good-looking and doesn't-crack thing. Basically, for me, it's the way he was instantly anointed as the Golden Boy by the Boston sports media, and then never proceeded to let them down. Damnit.
He doesn't have the weight to dump Moynahan. My internal reactionary tells me that he's trying to subvert the hierarchy.
If he's a Republican, then I won't be able to root with all my heart and soul against Manning next week. Shit.
KROFT: You a republican or a democrat? BRADY: You know, I'm actually independent. I'm actually an independent, and I have been for some time. There's no doubt this world needs a lot of help.
Being a Brady Fan is like being a Yankees Fan.
Being a Brady Fan is like being a Yankees Fan.
Nah, the Yankees have an institutional edge, in that they have more money to spend and spend it. But Brady is just good.
It seems to be an issue of some dispute, but he's generally thought to be a Republican in spirit at least.
Fine, fine. Being a Brady fan is like being a Jeter fan.
I mean, I know this, but this book, which is very good and sympathetic, definitely gives you the impression he's a GOPer.
I can live with Northern Republicans. Peyton's got to be a Southern Republican, which is a whole 'nother species. I'm rooting for Dungy.
Fuck. I might have to root for Brady.
No, you've got it all wrong. Northern Republicans are worse, because they should know better.
133: That used to be my thinking, too. And betrayal should be the greatest sin. But, on inspection, I don't fear them the way I fear Southern Republicans; those guys terrify me. At least (I suspect) most Northern Republicans know that they've done wrong.
And Peyton donated to Bush in '04. '04.
I'm totally rooting for New England. That was the perfect game. The favorite of announcers and oddmakers lost in a game that was basically stolen from them by a team of lesser atheletic talent. Fuckin' cool! Especially since it was a accomplished in such a soul-crushing way. Keen. So New England should win next week to induce even more trauma in Payton Manning. In fact, Payton Manning should not get to the Superbowl until he's like 40 and a washed-up has been.
And then like, either New Orleans (so we can have the New New Bowl) or Chicago should beat the Pats. New Orleans just on general principle of randomness and... well, I'm not sure about that Chicago thing. I still remember the Superbowl Hustle.
m, football should be ugly and traumatic
Yeah, well. Between the two, as I said, I'd choose Brady, no question.
Stab me in the eye. I don't care if Peyton donated money to Lyndon Larouche, I'd still root for Dungy and the Colts against the Patriots.
Take heart, arthegall, you're not alone. Unless that's you.
Max brings up a good point: Brady's already been to the Superbowl (and won), so the world doesn't get much worse if he goes again. But the world in which Peyton Manning goes to the Superbowl, and we don't get to call him a choker for the rest of his days is a much worse world than this one.
During Brady's first Superbowl victory, my friends and I took to cheering the Patriots by insinuating that if they won, Brady could have extra milk and cookies and stay up an extra hour late.
In other news, I cooked for the first time since I've been back home, and praise be to Allah for home-cooked food. Yum!
Dude, what have you been eating all this time?
Given that ogged routinely dismisses culinary knowledge, it's probably for the best that he hasn't been cooking for himself; he needs to recover, after all, not expose himself to infections.
Also, I move that football is boring, and so is unfogged when you people insist on watching/discussing it.
ogged routinely dismisses culinary knowledge
Link? Cite? A shred of evidence, calumniator?
Brady, like Jeter, is possessed of intangibles that cause him to be a winner. These intagibles are largely manifested by being surrounded by consistently excellent teammates and by having opponents cough games away.
How 'bout that Troy Brown, though?
I think w-lfs-n dropped a "my." I believe you ogged: you're too poncey to dismiss the whole of it.
Queue baa telling us that studies have shown that there's no such thing as a clutch hitter, or a "hot hand."
How can baa be right about everything except politics? How is that possible?
The linked comment was clearly a joke, gaylord.
Ogged:
I am a clutch skeptic, true enough. Bill James currently considers clutch hitting an open question, however, which suffices for me to regard it as undecided. As a Sox fan, I do think Jeter is legitimately frightening in clutch situations in a way other Yankees are not. (with the exception of cerebral assassin Bernie Williams). Also, who personally hasn't felt the 'hot hand'?
SCMTim: Sometime we need to compare priors. If they differ, it isn't by much...
I think it was more a w-lfs-nian niggle on "queue" vs. "cue." To which the response, as we know, is: wmybsalb?
I spy the signs of an eventual return of full-blown BAA.
If I had to do it all again, I would choose a different handle...
157: Indeed it was. I can't let w-lfs-n have all the glory.
I did realize after I'd posted that "queue" could actually work in that context, as a clever play on the usual construction.
The Patriots winning the Super Bowl again would be worse than war with Iran and Syria combined. Football represents all that is sick and wrong with the human spirit -- the winners wallow in their sense of entitlement, their feeling that God dictated their victory from On High, while the losers fall into the same destructive pattern of the abusive relationship, hoping that somehow this time will be different, but it never is.
The Colts winning the Super Bowl is acceptable if Peyton Manning throws twenty interceptions.
And Peyton donated to Bush in '04.
Okay, now *that's* a reason I'll buy for hating him.
Speaking of heads being detached from bodies, you'd think a country that has seen as many executions as iraq has would be better at it.
Executioners in balaclavas place hoods around both men's heads, then the noose. A short while later the footage, which is silent, shows both men drop. Almost immediately the rope that was around Barzan's neck flicks upwards, the body dropping below. The cameraman then shows the pit below and a headless body bloodied at the neck and what officials say was Barzan's head, still covered by a hood.
An official who was present at the execution said Awad's body was still hanging above. United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has expressed disappointment with the way in which the two aides were hanged yesterday, saying it should have been done with "greater dignity."
It appears that the noose pulled the head off Barzan.
