Re: Good On John Amaechi

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Mussina was talking about Arod, right?


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 10:24 AM
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It would have been better if it had come from a player who wasn't considered soft. Imagine if it had been Oakley!


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 10:26 AM
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Amaechi has a track record on being forthright about stuff, though, and always seemed a bit 'apart' from the run of the mill NBA player.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 10:27 AM
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It would have been better if it had come from a player who wasn't considered soft. Imagine if it had been Oakley!

True.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 10:28 AM
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The profile of Mussina I once read portrayed him as being more of an intellectual who was somewhat distant from his teammates, with the one detail that stood out his habit of doing crossword puzzles before games.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 10:54 AM
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doing crossword puzzles

So he was talking about...himself!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 10:55 AM
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Mussina is a smart guy (and I loved him as an Oriole, I confess), but didn't Bill Simmons quote some highly homophobic stuff coming out of his mouth a few years ago? Wrapped in the anonymity of "a top pitcher and graduate of an Ivy-caliber university", which is to say, "Mike Mussina"?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 11:04 AM
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Just for you, Ogged:

>I simply feel that the guy has 'em bigger than the ones he dribbled for his willingness and openness to "come out". Not getting into the bigotry of other emotional stuff. Not gay, but understanding of all people and their beliefs, as long as we are not talking about terrorists here!!!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 11:06 AM
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I dream of the day when that story starts with "Current NBA/NFL/MLB/NHL player . . . " Good on Amaechi, though.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 11:43 AM
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Wrapped in the anonymity of "a top pitcher and graduate of an Ivy-caliber university", which is to say, "Mike Mussina"?

Yeah, I can't really find anyone else who fits that description, unless you count Scott Schoeneweis, Chris Capuano or Mike Trombley (Duke), or Matt Anderson or Norm Charlton (Rice). Or the zombie corpse of Christy Mathewson.

Pete Harnisch was a top pitcher for a few years, if you consider Fordham to be "Ivy-caliber".


Posted by: Cryptic NEd | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 12:38 PM
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Wrapped in the anonymity of "a top pitcher and graduate of an Ivy-caliber university", which is to say, "Mike Mussina"?

Yeah, I can't really find anyone else who fits that description, unless you count Scott Schoeneweis, Chris Capuano or Mike Trombley (Duke), or Matt Anderson or Norm Charlton (Rice). Or the zombie corpse of Christy Mathewson.

Pete Harnisch was a top pitcher for a few years, if you consider Fordham to be "Ivy-caliber".


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 12:39 PM
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7: It was Peter Gammons, and it was right around the time John Rocker got into trouble for making his comments about the train out to Shea Stadium.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 1:20 PM
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Ah, here's what looks like the exact quote:

What Rocker said was unforgivable. But the fact is, every team has heard similar diatribes those from small towns across America have about New York City. One of the game's best pitchers, a sophisticated, intellectual graduate of one of the world's finest universities, has splattered teammates with similar comments and boasts that he will never play without a no-trade clause to the two New York teams.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 1:23 PM
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Good to know that Mussina is not a homophobe, but merely sympathetic to racist diatribes. On the other hand, given Mussina's move to New York, maybe it's not him, even though I honestly can't think who else that would have been describing.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 1:58 PM
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14: Recognizing that gays exist isn't itself evidence against homophobia.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 2:26 PM
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Apparently on TNT tonight Barkley said something along the lines of "we all know there are gay players. I played with two or three of them."


Posted by: Pooh | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 7:27 PM
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Damn, I just turned on the game. What did the other guys say?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 7:29 PM
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i saw this posted elswhere and thought, i bet ogg will post this.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 8:15 PM
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Dunno, didn't see it, they were talking about it in the comments here. Apparently Kenny was awkward (damn, I always liked the Jet...) but Chuck through him a lifeline, and he hoped on...


Posted by: Pooh | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 8:32 PM
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I always assumed Kenny was gay. "The Jet"? C'mon.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 8:35 PM
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I don't think he was called "The Jet" until he started working for TNT. I think EJ hung that one on him around the same time of Kenny christened Marion "the Matrix" good times for nicknames...


Posted by: Pooh | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 8:44 PM
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I was kidding, mostly thinking about West Side Story, Elton John, etc.

But I think Shoals is wrong about this: On a related note, I've been trying to decide if the sports blogosphere is more homophobic than sexist. My sense is that it is, in large part because there's no semi-ironic exorcism ritual associated with contemplating gays. More and more, nobody cares. If you're straight and not a sexist, you have to back it up with behavior, because you're going to be around women all of the time. If you're straight and not homophobic, you don't really have to back it up much. It's very, very easy not to care.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 8:48 PM
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That was good for Mike Mussina to say, but it does not change the fact that he is Yankee scum.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02- 8-07 10:24 PM
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It was good unless he was taking a shot at Brady Anderson. There's lots of reasons to take shots at Anderson (including the suspicion that he was taking a lot of shots of steroids himself). But not for that.


Posted by: benton | Link to this comment | 02- 9-07 11:24 AM
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I did catch this segment last night and wondered if you were watching it, Ogged.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 9-07 11:28 AM
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11. Ron Darling- former Met went to Yale, or was the quote only concerning current players


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 02- 9-07 11:33 AM
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