Why shouldn't you use the phone in a locker room?
And Jack might have been a nickname or short for Jacqueline.
Same reason you shouldn't use a cell phone anywhere else I might be. They're deeply annoying.
2: My mother is a Jacqueline and goes by Jackie.
The actual name wasn't "Jack;" it was a name that was pretty ambiguously a man's name. I'm not sure why I felt like I should change it, but I did.
Yeah, I don't get any part of this post. What's wrong with cellphones in the locker room? Locker rooms aren't a place where I need some sort of sacred silence.
B, of all your crazy positions, 1 takes the cake.
7: What? I thought you said the photos I sent you couldn't be topped.
At Bodies by Labs, cell phone users are spanked.
Also, isn't it terribly heterophobic of you to say that what's okay for homos isn't okay for straights?
1, 6: you probably talk on the phone in bathroom stalls, or (in the case of six) with your neighbors (since you have neighbors) while using a urinal.
I've found that those cellphones that operate on speakerphone are much less annoying when used in public. What's truly annoying about an overheard cellphone conversation is that you only get to hear one side of it.
Not to stereotype the men I see at my gym, but I do have the impression that plenty of gyms are reasonably warm and friendly places for a man who wants to lift some weights to be out of the closet. To put it mildly.
11: as far as I can tell, Labs didn't say that it wouldn't be ok for a straight guy to call his boyfriend from the locker room.
12: Not as a general rule, but if you're on the phone or it rings, what are you supposed to do? Pee your pants?
3: Then again, I'm not likely to be found in a locker room or any other part of a gym so chatter away, evil people.
16: Yes, you should pee your pants every time your phone rings. Then maybe people would learn to keep the damn things on vibrate.
If you're on the phone, and you need to use the restroom, you either ask the person to wait if you have reason to believe it won't take long, or you end the call. Then you can call them back. I would certainly rather have a hiatus in the conversation than know that I was currently talking to someone legislating from the bench, for my part, regardless of whether that person was doing so in the privacy of his or her own water closet or in a public restroom.
16 is just bizarre enough that it's a candidate for being something B might think is funny and will later claim was a joke.
13.--Wow, I have to disagree with you entirely on that score.
16.--I like these conventions: "Hang on a sec, I'm moving outside to talk to you" or "Can I call you back in a minute? I'm somewhere inconvenient."
Dear caller, I am in the smallest room of the house. I have my cell phone before me. Soon it will be behind me.
15: You're in luck, then.
No, I really mean 16. I don't care if people get off the phone to go to the bathroom, but if I'm either engaged in a long and interesting conversation (at home) or something short and important with someone who knows I pee (i.e., not a business call), I'm not going to cut it off just to go to the bathroom. If you say "can I call you back?" you end up losing the thread of the long and interesting convos, or else the person giving you a grocery list says "well, wait a minute, I'm almost done."
If it makes you feel better, at home, I won't flush until later, and if I'm in a public bathroom (I think this has happened once in my life), I'll get off the phone before doing so. Both to not squee the hypersensitive and b/c it would interfere with being able to hear the convo anyway.
Agree entirely with Ben, sadly. A woman I know once told me about her boss talking on the phone from the stall. When another toilet flushed, the boss yelled out, still from the stall, "I'm just in here washing my haaaaands."
"Can I call you back in a minute? I'm somewhere inconvenient."
In order to say that, you have to have answered the phone.
12: Last week my cell rang while providing a urine sample. Out of politeness, I didn't answer it.
And it bugs me more when I'm taking a piss and listening to someone else's phone ring for thirty seconds than it does if they just answer, say "can I call you right back?" and hang up.
If it makes you feel better, at home, I won't flush until later, and if I'm in a public bathroom (I think this has happened once in my life), I'll get off the phone before doing so.
That's what mute is for.
someone else's phone ring for thirty seconds
See? If they had to pee in their pants every time their phone rang, this wouldn't be an issue.
29: I'm always afraid that if I hit the mute button I'll accidentally hang up on someone.
I hear they've invented voicemail.
Seriously.
I am in principle a defender of cellphones in public. If one is in a setting where conversation is acceptable, a discreet cellphone conversation should not, it seems, be unacceptable. The qualifier "discreet," however, applies to so few cellphone conversations that it's not a helpful rule.
I've sometimes had to pee while I'm on the phone. It's very easy to set the phone down on my desk, go into the bathroom and pee, and then return to the call.
I can't imagine a situation where I'd be in the stall and my phone would ring and I would answer it. Nothing is that important.
What if you were waiting for a call from the only priest you could find who would do your wedding on the date you wanted, and he'd told you that there was a long waiting list and it was first come first served?
And there's a man wearing a suit and tie in that crowd over there who knows where the nuclear bomb that's about to go off is!
34: Then she'd probably pee her pants.
34,35: I'd make Jack Bauer answer the phone.
35: Eh, for what it's worth, I'd answer the phone if, say, I were out and PK was at home with a babysitter. And I've answered it when I know Mr. B.'s trying to get ahold of me. I answered the phone once while driving (which I'd rather not do) and it was the INS calling to make sure that Mr. B. was, in fact, my husband and did, in fact, have my permission to take PK out of the country. You never know.
34: Then you shouldn't have gone to the gym in the first place.
39 means "if you're waiting for an important call, hold it."
40: There's always the old reliable soda bottle solution.
What I can't figure out is why the phone is in the stall. Sure, if you're travelling, the phone is in your purse. But at home? Who carries their cellphone into the bathroom at home?
w-lfs-n:
When someone says "locker room," do you automatically think of excretory functions? I don't. I think of showers and clothes-changing.
43: Um, you mean there are people who don't?
Yesterday, after having the most painful facial of my life, I took advantage of the spa's Japanese baths. It's lovely, really, with the dry sauna, wet sauna, cold dip, hot pool and cheery pitchers of water filled with cucumber slices. There's also a sign that says be quiet and - I find this hilarious - a mini gong that you hit if people are getting out of hand. There's also a sign in the changing room that says no cell phones.
And yet.
Someone had one in the bath area, and I couldn't figure out why, but seeing it there, with its camera eye so prominent, it gave me the heebie jeebies. Paranoid? Probably, as it was most likely some texting addict. Still I can't imagine relaxing while thumbing messages to my BFF.
Hee hee. 43 was supposed to be to 42 and not 43, but it works both ways.
Unfortunately for the ladies, the solution at 41 does not.
If it's in your pocket?
Anyway, who cares if I answer the phone in the bathroom or not if it's my own damn home?
45: I need one of those gongs in my office.
Re: gong. The best was when a few of us realized that the only people talking loudly were these two older Japanese women. Japanese baths. Japanese women. I think all of us gaijin thought, who are WE to tell THEM to hush? Plus, who wants to be the ninny banging the gong? (Man, that IS a dumb song.)
who wants to be the ninny banging the gong?
Yes, please, somebody else take over the job. My phone is ringing and I have to pee.
Last time I went to the opera, some schmuck had his or her pda lit up at irregular intervals. (I could tell because the schmuck was in the orchestra and I was in a fifteenth-floor balcony seat.) Incredibly distracting.
Reason not to use a phone in a locker room (or a gym generally): Other people may rightly be paranoid that you're using the phonecam. The last couple of gyms I've belonged to have rules against cell phone use for this reason.
52 is a pet peeve of mine. People think they're being considerate by texting during a movie or whatever instead of making a call but the screen lighting up is a huge distraction.
Yeah, I'm not getting why:
1) It's not OK to talk on cell phones in locker rooms
2) It would take "nerve" to talk to your boyfriend from the men's locker room. What is this, 1945?
3) Regardless, why the acceptability of talking on a cell phone in a locker room should depend on being gay or straight.
Orchestra section, that is. I will concede that it was a boring opera.
Well, *iniating* a call or a text message at a movie or in an orchestra or in a bathroom is just weird and potentially offensive.
That said, why haven't people realized they can cover the screen (or the camera, for that matter) with their hand?
56: Re #2: Labs is still coming to terms with his sexuality. A little compassion.
Last week my cell rang while providing a urine sample.
Wow, is there nothing those newfangled cell phones can't do?
59.--No, replying to it would be pretty bad, too, and covering up the screen---which wouldn't really work anyway---would be a futile act of denial.
They still can't provide stool samples.
62: Agreed about replying to these things in places like movies and live musical performances. If it's the babysitter, you excuse yourself.
63: I hear the best way to provide one of those is to mash it down the drain of the communal shower.
"Before I had a chance to brain him with a dumbbell, though, he ended the conversation with 'ok, talk to you later, Jack.' Yikes. If you've got the nerve to phone your boyfriend from the men's locker room, I have to concede that you've earned the right to have cloying conversations wherever you please."
I was going to make the same point as in 2, but then saw 5. Then I wondered if there were any names that couldn't apply to whatever gender.
Then I realized that going on about people's gender and sexuality, and passing judgment on them on that basis, was simply kooky in the first place.
65: How many of you have, like me, dropped your phone in a public toilet?
And no, not while I was talking on it. I was in an airport and juggling too many fucking bags in the tiny stall.
I'd like to recommend to all of you that you, right now, switch your cell phones to vibrate, and never put them back on an audible ringtone, ever again, ever, ever. Ever.
Go ahead, I'll wait.
No, shut up. SHUT. UP. You're not that important. Turn the fucking ringer off.
No. JUST DO IT. Kids have been being babysat for thousands of years when humans had no cell phones at all. Silent cell phones make the world a better place.
Agreed re. babysitting, and I'm not saying "how can you NOT have a cell phone if you have a child?!?!?" I'm just saying, if you do, one of the things you use it for is to answer if the babysitter calls.
Vibrate is nice and all, but it requires you to carry the phone close to your body. Which is kind of difficult in a lot of women's clothing.
In other words, Hamilton, you're sexist.
66: Yes, and as soon as people stop passing judgement on people based on their sexuality, we won't need to remark on the bravery of people being openly gay in a men's locker room.
69: Tuck it in your panties.
67: Not in public, but it's the one reason I can personally understand for not bringing a cell phone into the bathroom. Lost mine that way.
Why it obviously bothers a great many that the person on the other end of the line might be peeing, however, I am still not getting. I had long taken this for granted as something everyone does (talking while peeing). Huh.
That's how it ended up in the toilet in the first place. Fuck it, I'd rather make you listen to it ring than reach into a public toilet to fish it out again.
I might talk while peeing to my sisters and my very best female friends. I don't assume that everyone else is going to be comfortable thinking about me naked.
67: My friend did that at an In-n-Out in Vegas a few years back. Once it dried out, it actually worked okay for a few days.
Oh, and she assured us that the dropping occurred prior to her doing any business. For the sake of our friendship, we chose to believe her.
72: It's a decorum thing. Our culture pressures us to pretend that we do not actually pee. (Consider typical mom's reaction when small child yells "mom, I have to pee!" in public.) Talking on your cell while peeing breaks the fiction.
This all goes double for defecation.
74: I'd make a Costanza reference, but I understand that those are disfavored here.
76: I was early for my plane, so I held it under the hot air dryer for quite some time after turning it off. It recovered and seems to work just fine.
Here's another question: how many of you, if you're having a conversation with someone on your way (together) to the bathroom, will break it off once you get there? Always, never, or sometimes?
My gym also bans cellphones in the locker room. Good policy, says I.
I don't even need to say how much I disapprove of talking on the phone while going to the bathroom, do I?
It should also be noted that not only is Labs a gay homophobe, he's anti-Catholic, too.
79: I assume that your question assumes that I and my friend are the same gender? Or, I suppose, we could be in an Ally McBeal-esque work environment with a unisex.
Anyway, if I got to choose, I'd vote for ALWAYS. No question about it at all. Sadly, other men don't always agree, so I'm forced to continue in conversation with a co-worker across the urinal wall while I'm holding my dick in my hand. Oy vey.
(Once again, I note that this is ground already covered by George Costanza. Then again, so is everything else.)
while peeing to my sisters and my very best female friends
Female bonding rituals are weird.
79: A meatspace conversation? As in, me and a male friend are pedeconferencing, and I say "I have to use the facilities", and he says "me too?" Depending on the nature of the conversation, we'll continue, possibly with some reduction in enthusiasm (for reasons of decorum, split concentration, and self-consciousness). If the conversation is small talk, and hits a natural lull while we do our business, we may let the lull continue longer than we would outside the restroom. All this applies to urination only; conversation may not continue past the end of the current sentence if either party is preparing to defecate.
This is all in the manual, volume IV, sections 34.17c, d, and f, I think.
I talk on the phone while using he bathroom all the time. However, this is in the privacy of my own home.
77: So, then I suppose it would be bad to mention if anyone were commenting wirelessly from the throne... ?
79: Depends -- good conversation, keep talking; annoying conversation, perfect excuse to break it off. I usually keep talking. The people I'm talking to usually break it off...
84: I retreat to the sanctuary of dead presidential anonymity in order to agree 100%.
How could you people fail to tell me that Anna Nicole Smith has died?
86: Do so if you must, but for civility's sake, do not tell anyone about it. (You can't get away with the same policy on the cell phone in a public restroom, because someone else is going to flush.)
I am not a phone-hater, but I do have some pretty strict self-imposed rules that boil down to:
(a) will answering it right now be dangerous to me or others (ie, while driving)
(b) will answering it right now suggest to someone that I think a phone call is more important than they are (ie, while engaged in a conversation over dinner).
Calls while at a movie, for instance, are not an issue because I turn off the phone when I'm going into a movie/play/etc.
Confession: It squicks me to see or hear someone talking on their cell in a public restroom and, when I see that, I take secret pleasure in flushing while they're on their call in hopes their caller will say, "Wait a minute, what was that noise?"
I'm not going to charitably believe that the people getting text messages during movies/theater/the opera are getting urgent messages from the babysitter, especially when there are multiple of them, because I know my friend Mark is a serial offender with this. I was at a play with him one night and his boyfriend was texting him updates from the Yankees game. During a play about Abu Ghraib.
(I brained him at the intermission.)
53: please, I never want to think about that story again.
How could you people fail to tell me that Anna Nicole Smith has died?
Gah, what a sad life.
I just fundamentally don't get all the hating on cell phones. It should be the same rules as any other sort of conversation in public: don't be loud and obnoxious, conduct your conversation in such a way that others around you aren't required to listen in. But that's about it. And of all the noises in a public space, why choose ringing cell phones as the one to get upset about?
That said, I get annoyed at what people do with their cell phones all the time. But that's about people suck, not about cell phones suck.
91: Becks, I'll plead guilty to handling non-babysitter-related text messages during a movie. Somehow it seems less offensive in canned entertainment than live, or maybe I'm reaching for rationalization.
And of all the noises in a public space, why choose ringing cell phones as the one to get upset about?
People talk in a different tone when they're on cell phones, typically projecting much more than they would if the person they were talking to were there--you don't turn to see if every talking person is talking to you, but you often do when someone's having a cell phone conversation.
Good lord. I wonder if her husband's family poisoned her.
I don't know how long this will stay up at Anna Nicole's wikipedia entry, but,
On February 12, 2007, men across the country will wear their zippers at half-mast to honor Ms. Smith's memory.
68: Nonsense! Pick the loudest, most attention-getting ringtone you can find. IMX, Ride of the Valkyries works pretty well. I figure it's petty revenge on humanity in general while expressing solidarity with the feminists.
88: I've typed and deleted so many horrid classless comments about that during the last thirty seconds. For now, I'll just STFU.
100: Already gone, and the page is protected.
96: People shout when they use a cell phone.
Also, someone should post about ANS's death so we don't have our all-important cell phone debate sidetracked.
It's the lawyer turned life-partner. He killed the son. He killed her. Just a theory.
She had a five-month-old daughter. Yikes.
Making him now in charge of the baby's assets? I could see that.
Yes. Which is why he demands that he's the father, but won't have a paternity test. Hmmm...
104: There has to be a way to get them to stop doing that.
98: Possibly regional? I notice that when it's happening and see it as a violation of the general rules of public conversation, but it's not something I notice a lot of around here.
110: Improve the SNR of cell phones, but since usage is increasing much faster than available bandwidth, that's a nonstarter.
I think it's got to be something about the acoustic cues cell phones give off -- I don't know how it works, but I don't think it's just people being obnoxious, there's something about talking on a cell phone that incites you to project.
Poor Anna Nicole Smith. According to The Superficial, she was only 39.
114: In technical terms, cell phones "suck".
There has to be a way to get them to stop doing that.
There is, and while it may have been inappropriate in that case, I support the practice overall.
Mr. B. talks too loudly on all kinds of phones, but then he's half-deaf. It drives me crazy because I'm an insensitive bitch who hates the handicapped.
How long until Elton John writes a song for Anna Nicole?
117: So it's okay to shove cell phones down people's throats as long as they're not women? Sexist.
I'd buy the idea that there are things about cell phone design that cause people to talk more loudly, including poor sound quality and small phones that place the microphone out by the cheekbone somewhere instead of in front of your mouth, but I still consider loudness to be user obnoxiousness rather than phone obnoxiousness. I use flip phones and avoid talking on the phone in noisy settings because otherwise I'd have to talk obnoxiously loudly to be heard. That's not the phone's fault.
119: Skanky dancer just doesnt have much of a ring to it.
121: So you're saying that cell phones don't irritate people, people irritate people?
Goodbye, drunken train wreck,
Though I never knew you at all...
There is a dedicated Anna Nicole thread for all of your mourning and conspiracy-theory-floating needs.
Maybe it's because they don't echo back into your ear like regular phones?
120: It still feels cheap.
106: For whatever reason, I immediately assumed she killed herself. What a sad weird life.
I go swimming with straight friend of mine. He's always chatty when we're dressing out and outed me to the whole locker room the other morning ("Are you out to your boss?"). I was a bit rattled for a sec, but it passed quickly when nobody around seemed to react one little bit, and then I remembered that we were the two old guys in a university gym, and the youth these days are much smarter about this stuff than when I was one.
It's funny how fast that flipped -- I'm 35, and I have the impression that almost everyone gay and older than I am had much angst and coming-out worry and drama, but most people younger, at least anyplace urban, didn't have much trouble at all outside of family issues.
Oh and: cell phones are annoying in nearly every setting, and I really wish people would use the fucking vibrate setting, and shut the hell up in general, and I most especially, super-extra wish that they would NOT hang out at the top of the subway stairs wrapping up their stupid calls with their stupid friends.
131: ..and so I'm pretty comfortable with it.
133: Indeed. The change seemed so abrupt that I still have to remind myself that the yoof often can't even relate to coming-out drama.
133, 136: The first thing that came to mind was Stonewall, but I guess that's a couple of decades before the big shift.
I think it was Act-Up; AIDS activism was so public that it got a critical mass of people out.
The shift has been weirdly fast, no doubt.
Oh, right, y'all. HOW LONG MUST WE WAIT?
140: I know, right? It's totally unfair that women's clothes don't have pockets.
But putting shit in your pockets ruins the line. The line.
Back when cell phones were more expensive--when people still had car phones-- I used to find people using them in public really obnoxious. I remember seeing someone in coffee hour after church discussing lunch plans. He could have gone off into a quiet corner near the payphones, but by pacing and brandishing his cell phone he was able to signal how important he was, and that was just obnoxious.
I'm envisioning a specially contoured cell phone with... actually, no, I'm not going there.
143: After portable phones were no longer exclusive to very high status occupations, but before they became universal, they actually signalled a certain low status, at least to me: "the company owns your ass and can order you around at any time of the day or night."
142: And cramming it down the drain of a communal shower screws up the pipes.
And yet AGAIN, Constanza comes to mind. What a weird day.
144: I actually briefly considered getting one of those garter phone holder things, before I realized how fucking stupid it would be.
OK, first, the phone thing for women is really annoying. Would it kill manufacturers to make those cute little "pockets" on suit jackets into actual pockets? If I don't want to spoil the line (?!), I won't put anything in them. Not to mention dress pants with no pockets.
Second, on the topic of why overhearing cell phone calls is especially annoying: the two explanations I've heard are 1) if you're only hearing one side of the conversation, your brain has to work harder to fill in the blanks. A true back-and-forth conversation is easier to ignore.
And 2) Old-fashioned phones caused your own voice to echo back in your earpiece as you spoke, but cell phones don't do that, so those of us who grew up with landlines exclusively are unconsciously expecting to hear that echo, and when we don't, we assume the other person can't hear us either, and we speak louder.
No idea if it's true, but sounds plausible.
148: Stupid maybe, but hottt.
Yeah, but it means you can't ever wear pants again.
On the other hand, I recently bought two pairs of cargo-type pants that have a very clever little phone-sized pocket at the mid-thigh.
Also, neck lanyard. Because it just doesn't get any sexier than having some corporate shoelace hanging around your neck all the time.
151: So you'll be complying with the vibratodiktat, then?
I actually do mostly try to keep it on vibe, but I admit that I've had the "lalalala, oh, wait, something seems to be buzzing near my knee, lalala, probably a bug, oh wait, it's my phone, oh shit, they hung up" thing happen on a couple of occasions.
Yeah, but my corporate shoelace is one that came with my little usb storage thingy. Remember, I'm not working right now. I'm just wandering around the neighborhood looking like a soccer mom in my yoga pants and lanyard with keys and phone.
I'm going to come out very strongly against the Californian fashion trend of being too cool to carry a bag. If you are carrying a wallet, keys, and a phone---that is, if you are out of your house with the absolute bare minimum of personal effects---you're going to drop or lose something if you don't have a bag. This is so typically Californian: everybody keeps their lives in their cars and are in denial about actually needing to transport things on their persons.
156: Genetic engineering; kangaroos.
the absolute bare minimum of personal effects
See, if you just lose the phone, you're back to not having to carry a bag plus you'll know that you've done your little bit to make me happy. Win-win.
Sadly, other men don't always agree, so I'm forced to continue in conversation with a co-worker across the urinal wall while I'm holding my dick in my hand. Oy vey.
I've said it before and will say it again -- not having to see your coworkers' bits is the best thing ever about being female. Just thinking about being in that situation completely creeps me out.
156: I carry my keys and phone *because* I walk everywhere, as a matter of fact. And I don't wish to tote a bag.
159: Man, I totally want to see my coworkers' bits, but the ones with the bits I want to see all use the other bathroom.
My mom shouts on the phone and it's gotten worse with cell phones. I think it's that she thinks the message has to fly through the air on the strength of her vocal cords.
I took FL's post reasonably, as not saying "Here are the rules of phones based on sexual orientation", but as indicating if a guy is comfortable enough in an environment of heightened homophobia to talk to his boyfriend, the man has enough cred to do whatever he wants, including talk to his boyfriend on Labs' cell.
not having to see your coworkers' bits is the best thing ever about being female
It's quite possible to not see the bits, actually.
Some even consider it poor form to spend your urinal time checking out your neighbors' dicks.
Even the risk of accidentally seeing my coworkers' bits would be too high. Studious avoidance of looking in that direction is not protection enough. So creepy.
Are you kidding? It would be totally awesome to be able to find out who is and who isn't trying to compensate for sure.
165, 166: I have to say that neither of those things has ever occurred to me while standing at a urinal.
166: That's the kind of information I'd rather have secondhand. Besides, even if I did want to know, the information wouldn't be complete because of that important shower vs. grower distinction.
The guys just make that up to make themselves feel better.
I must have better-looking coworkers than you, Magpie.
173 to 171.
172: I work in IT. 'Nuff said.
67 -- did you go after it?
67 -- did you go after it?
156: Getting a man-purse is one of the best things I've done for myself in recent memory.
It would be totally awesome to be able to find out who is and who isn't trying to compensate for sure.
Checking out another dude's wang while he's at the urinal is a good way to get punched.
Sorry to post that link an extra time. It is however the element of the Pynchonian oeuvre most appropriate to the Mineshaft. Check out particularly:
If Slothrop follows that harp down the toilet it'll have to be headfirst, which is not so good, cause it leaves his ass up in the air helpless, and with Negroes around that's just what a fella doesn't want, his face down in some fetid unknown darkness and brown fingers, strong and sure, all at once undoing his belt, unbuttoning his fly, strong hands holding his legs apart--and he feels the cold Lysol air on his thighs as down come the boxer shorts too, now, with the colorful bass lures and trout flies on them. He struggles to work himself farther into the toilet hole as dimly, up through the smelly water, comes the sound of a whole dark gang of awful Negroes come yelling happily into the white men's room, converging on poor wriggling Slothrop, jiving around the way they do singing, "Slip the talcum to me, Malcolm!"
165: That straight friend I mentioned upthread? Never seen his bits, even with showering next to him after our swim. One can contain the willful, roving gaze when the stakes are high enough.
180 -- so you do not think he was coming on to you in 132?
His overt adoration of his pregnant wife makes me think, no.
Speaking of teh gay, did everyone see the Bill Donohue quote Atrios put up?
Just imagine if a white guy is performing oral sex on a statue of Martin Luther King with an erection. Do you need to see it to know it's ugly.
That guy is a special kind of crazy.
182 -- That could be a front.
184: It's true, idn't it? Closet cases are always pulling that shit. Clearly, I'm going to HAVE to monitor his bits in the locker room now, in order to know the truth.
Reaching the truth requires sacrifice, but if I'm called, so be it.
Checking out another dude's wang while he's at the urinal is a good way to get punched.
Well, then you know that he's got something to hide.
183 is a piece of art, man. Who comes up with that shit?
I not only don't need to see it to know it's ugly, I don't need to see it to know it turns him on.
I call people, including girls i'm sexxing, 'Jack'. I wouldn't seen any problme calling people in a locker room. I can't think of a problme with being 'gay-in-lockerrom'.
"OK, first, the phone thing for women is really annoying. Would it kill manufacturers to make those cute little "pockets" on suit jackets into actual pockets? If I don't want to spoil the line (?!), I won't put anything in them. Not to mention dress pants with no pockets."
Couldn't any competent tailor put a pocket into a pseudo-pocket in no time flat? that seems like a really easy fix.
people hate on people who talk on their mobiles because they can't listne into the conversation and so anren't sure that they aren't missiout out on some good eavesdropping.
180: Just as I eventually caved and looked up that naked Cisco Adler photo (my eyes! my EYES!), I would have a hard time not looking. Then again, if I were actually a guy and had had 20+ years of strong socialization not to look, things might be different.
66: Then I wondered if there were any names that couldn't apply to whatever gender.
Don't worry, I think "Gary" is still considered 100% MAN. Also "Beowulf" and "Thor".
If you are carrying a wallet, keys, and a phone---that is, if you are out of your house with the absolute bare minimum of personal effects---you're going to drop or lose something if you don't have a bag
Pockets?