Re: Fix It

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Aside from turning the frowns upside-down, I don't see a lot of wizardry going on there.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:22 PM
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The redhead is really beautiful.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:24 PM
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There's some eyebrow raising/leveling, nose thinning, and lip plumping too.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:25 PM
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2 - she doesn't exist.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:26 PM
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Of the six, only the middle woman got noticeably more attractive.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:26 PM
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The redhead is really beautiful.

Thanks, Chopper. I think you're a fine-looking fellow yourself.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:27 PM
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Why are all the women Nordic lookin', and all the men "ethnic"? This is waaay too creepily reminiscent of some kind of eugenics theory pamphlet from the beginning of last century. Remember that Whacking Day began as an excuse to beat up the Irish!


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:30 PM
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The middle guy looks much better.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:50 PM
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I concur with the esteemed Jackmormon re: 8.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:53 PM
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>Why are all the women Nordic lookin', and all the men "ethnic"? This is waaay too creepily reminiscent of some kind of eugenics theory pamphlet from the beginning of last century. Remember that Whacking Day began as an excuse to beat up the Irish!


At least one of the men is one of the software developers:

http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tommer/


Posted by: joeo | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 5:54 PM
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What's hilarious about 10 is that he's the only person whose "beautified" picture introduced a weird asymetry. In the "after" shot, his mouth is inappropriately stretched out on one side, I think because his head was slightly tilted and so the imput was off-kilter.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 6:02 PM
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Yes, the men should be Nordic looking, and the women hot darkeyed tropical babes.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 6:30 PM
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Huh, I dunno, it still seems creepy to me. Whether it was a conscious choice ("People will be into our product if the chix are really hott") or not, the ideology embedded in those choices is not a pleasant one.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 6:34 PM
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The guy on the left was simply made 15% more Tobey McGuire.


Posted by: orangatan | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 6:35 PM
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No one ever tells you to lighten up, do they minneapolitan?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 6:37 PM
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the men should be Nordic looking

Damn straight.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 6:50 PM
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I'm kind of feeling humorless and cold on this one, too. It's like those skinny-cameras that slightly elongate you.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:07 PM
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I feel grumpy about the project as a whole, but not the ethnicity of the people in the photos. Aren't you glad I shared that fascinating and important opinion with you?


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:08 PM
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They all looked like they were on death row. Would a teentsy smile jam the software?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:15 PM
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They're all grim-visaged because they're in relationships, John.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:25 PM
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No, see, the software adds the smile, magically. No one need ever smile again.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:38 PM
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That would be nice.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:44 PM
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It most certainly would not. Turtles for you.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:51 PM
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Electronic Prettifying Majicry For all


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:55 PM
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squeeeeeee! turtles.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 7:59 PM
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The third is my faves. Sleepy turtles have no cares.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 8:00 PM
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I have this great idea for an advertisement in which Kate Moss mopes and sulks her last mile to the electric chair, but are the fuddy-duddies in the ad biz interested? No.

I have no idea what it would sell, but man! would that be a killer ad!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 8:17 PM
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I have no idea what it would sell

All-you-can-eat shrimp night at the Golden Corral.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 8:22 PM
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My theory of the day is that female is coded as less hairy now because there was more women in porn in the early 20th c, so now men don't depilate themselves enough, because it makes you look like a girl.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 8:31 PM
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All-you-can-eat-shrimp night sells itself.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 8:32 PM
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All-you-can-eat-shrimp night sells itself.

Are you calling Kate Moss a whore?

And more important, what nubbin of meaning lies at the core of marvelous, gauzy #29?

Last night and again tonight I watched Wild Strawberries and I've got to say, Emerson as Dr. Borg and Bitch as Marianne. The other roles are up for grabs except I think Drymala should probably play Anders.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 8:41 PM
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"Wild Strawberries" was one of the movies I watched before most people were born. Dr. Borg is an old pedant who doesn't relate to people, right? I have heard that he was based on the Swedish Sinologist Bernhard Karlgren, and lo! I am a Sinologist of sorts.

I also liked "The Magician", when the protagonist escapes at the end of a downward spiral of fuckups and unsuccessful scam jobs.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 8:47 PM
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"The protagonist escapes at the end of a downward spiral of fuckups and unsuccessful scam jobs."
I might have to rent that one because that sounds like the last few years.


Posted by: Brian | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 9:02 PM
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Happy ending! Just like Hollywood.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02-26-07 9:26 PM
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15: Actually, I'm usually the comic relief at work. And home. And out on the town. Just because I'm not making cock jokes and referencing Bill Murray films every minute of the day, doesn't mean I'm not a funny person. Oh, I am a tricksy wight.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 6:12 AM
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Don't be discouraged by this response, minneapolitan. Comment threads even at this blog, probably the best I've ever seen, are simply not being read carefully enough for fairly obvious things, such as humor from all but the most established personalities, to be reliably picked up.

One time a regular commentator, who'd been reading threads I commented on for months, suggested in passing that I stood out in his mind as someone who never attempted humor. I guess not successfully.

A day doesn't go by here where someone isn't touted, quoted, referred to, thanked, for saying something someone else, sometimes more than one person, had already said on that thread. You can't take it personally: the capacity to pay attention varies enormously, from person to person, and from the same person at different times.

To have been well-received here is a wonderful experience, but to assume it's going to happen every time you comment is to set yourself up for disappointment.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 7:15 AM
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34: "Hollywood" s/b "at University Massage."


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 7:31 AM
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36 - Yeah, it takes a while for personalities to emerge. But why does everyone keeps mistaking me for a guy?

(This has happened probably 3+ times)


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 7:39 AM
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Shut up, hooker.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 7:40 AM
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I can't possibly see how my profession is relevant.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 7:41 AM
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It's all about the odds, you see.

Slightly more seriously, our experience here is that if you have a gender-neutral handle, people's default assumption is that you're male. Since not everyone reads every day or every thread, it can take a while for the majority to figure out what you are.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 7:44 AM
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And it even works if your handle is gendermarked, but not in an absolutely obvious way -- I get assumed to be male pretty often, despite the LizardBreath=Elizabeth thing.

(The funny thing is that I'd expect a gender-neutral ID to be a fairly strong predictor of femaleness -- there seem to be a dozen men posting under their real first names (Charlie Jake Matt Steve Bob John Mark) for every woman posting under a real first name.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 7:54 AM
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When I used a different handle, I was often mistaken for male. (Not here.) But I do tend to assume that purposefully gender neutral handle implies a female commenter. I also thought eb was a woman for oh, forever.

(Charlie Jake Matt Steve Bob John Mark)

Sure you mean Charlie Jake Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Steve Bob John Mark MATT MATT MATT.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:20 AM
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Ironically, I thought eb was a woman because obviously it was initials, and obviously the E must stand for Elizabeth.

But I do tend to assume that purposefully gender neutral handle implies a female commenter.

I had no idea people thought that before. I've only been assuming that about gender-neutral handles that include the name of an animal somewhere, such as Magpie, Wrenae and Redfoxtailshrub. An animal other than a lizard, that is.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:25 AM
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It's probably a holdover from playing computer games, where having a feminine-sounding handle gets you too much juvenile harassment.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:28 AM
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My assumption, I mean.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:30 AM
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And from the days when a writer would style herself "L. Hirshman" to be taken more seriously.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:37 AM
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despite the LizardBreath=Elizabeth thing

Is it common knowledge though? I've known reams of people who didn't know LizardBreath=Elizabeth.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:37 AM
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I've known reams of people who didn't know LizardBreath=Elizabeth.

A sure sign of the waning influence of the comic strip For Better or for Worse—a net plus for humanity.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:41 AM
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Less common than I'd thought, clearly. But it's got to tip off at least some people, and even with those people tipped off, there are still enough left to comment on their surprise when they figure out my gender.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:41 AM
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I am, in fact, a middle-aged woman who teaches acting. That person people have met is one of my students.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 8:43 AM
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43: b/c matt is the best name.


Posted by: matty | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 9:01 AM
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It's probably a holdover from playing computer games

An RL friend of mine chose a gender-neutral and somewhat nonsensical phonetic variation on her real name for her MOO handle many years ago; her choice was very much like LB's. She also set her @gender to Neutral rather than Male or Female. She was surprised at first and then eventually numb to the quantity of other MOOers, primarily male, who were bothered by her choice to remain an unknown. First they would ask politely then grow increasingly bothered and eventually hysterical or abusive as she continued to refuse to identify herself as male or female. It was a tremendous lesson for us in how rooted in physical standards & prejudice this wonderful new world of ideas really was.

If I remember correctly, the wife of one of one of the creators of Penny Arcade had similar experiences playing Unreal Tournament and eventually changed her handle to something neutral because the harassment really distracted her as she applied massive pwnage.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 9:12 AM
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Damn straight.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 9:13 AM
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54-->52


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 9:14 AM
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This picture (sfw) is apropos of nothing, but I thought it was pretty cool.


Posted by: Paul | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 10:06 AM
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Sure you mean Charlie Jake Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Steve Bob John Mark MATT MATT MATT.

Yes? Yes? WHAT?


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 11:06 AM
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Incidentally, I always read mrh as Mister H, so you are pegged as male.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 11:11 AM
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56.--That is an awesome photo.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 11:28 AM
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That was an interesting Segway! [You see what I did there? COMEDY!!!]

Anyhow, don't worry about little ol' me. I'm not feeling unloved or anything, I was just pointing out that it's weird to me that my Unfogged persona seems to have developed into a humorless, high-strung, teeth-gnashing pedant, when I don't find myself in that role very often IRL. The only things I really get upset about online are the situation in the Levant and attacks on reproductive freedom. I guess I tend to harangue people about movies a little bit, but most of the hysteria there is due to the fact that I don't have the time, space or patience to go into a detailed analysis of a film in blog comments.

It's just strange, because I feel like, if we all worked in the same department, I'd be the one making vaguely inappropriate jokes in the staff meetings while everyone else rolled their eyes or smiled politely at the idiot who was obviously never going to get promoted.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 4:12 PM
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I'd be the one making vaguely inappropriate jokes [...]

That's my actual work persona. Except for the "vaguely" part.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-27-07 4:15 PM
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