Re: The Hedgehog Speaks

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Y'know, I've trained my brain to think of Hedgical Trevor first when I read "The Hedgehog." Why does the universe conspire to break me of this habit?


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:00 AM
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Because of his frequent Hedgical impersonations, "The Hedgehog" makes me think of Brad DeLong.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:04 AM
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I grew up playing Sonic the Hedgehog. The original was my first video game.


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:10 AM
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Porn Star: The Legend of Ron Jeremy is worth watching. By the end of the film, you really can't help 1) liking him and 2) feeling sorry for him.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:13 AM
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Obligatory wet-blanketism omitted.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:14 AM
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He makes a pretty good case, actually.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:15 AM
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"And if this was a couple, I always ask permission of the male to sign the breast before I do it."

Ah, yes, always better to ask the master first. After all, it is his breast. His servent is merely carrying it around for him until he needs it.


Posted by: Wrenae | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:22 AM
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Ah, yes, always better to ask the master first.

Not so fast. Kant, IIRC, defined marriage as a contract for the mutual exclusive use of each other's privates.

So, presumably, before signing the man's penis, Jeremy would've had to ask the woman's permission.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:24 AM
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5: Wet-blanketism is best when it is not obligatory; it should be consented to by all participants.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:27 AM
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4: Yeah, you definitely end up feeling sorry for him. I can't decide if that's a function of his life as a porn star or his life as a schlub.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:30 AM
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Ok, when I just glanced at the post, I only saw the bit about security all around him, so I assumed this was another post about McCain in Baghdad. My bad.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:33 AM
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"servent" s/b "servant"

/hangs head in shame/

I dunno, Anderson, but I doubt RJ reads much Kant. Maybe he does. Maybe he even signs penises, after first asking the female consort's permission. But I doubt it.


Posted by: wrenae | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:33 AM
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I dunno, Anderson, but I doubt RJ reads much Kant. Maybe he does. Maybe he even signs penises, after first asking the female consort's permission. But I doubt it.

I don't think he has to have read Kant to be motivated by the same rough understanding of a couple's relationship. Moreover, I suspect he mostly wants to make sure that he's not going to get hit if he signs.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:36 AM
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What's telling is that he doesn't mention asking the woman's permission at all. The way he describes it, he was just in the groove on a roll and whoops! Signed your breast!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:36 AM
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RJ is smart enough to know that, however enlightened he might be, asking permission tends to defuse the potential for violence initiated by those who refuse to call themselves "feminists".


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:38 AM
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What's telling is that he doesn't mention asking the woman's permission at all.

He may assume the permission from the fact that she (on my reading of the paragraph) waited in line to get his autograph and then presented him her breast for signing.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:38 AM
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reached inside her bra and grabbed her nipple

Ouch!

I don't think she "presented her breast", actually.


Posted by: alif sikkiin | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:42 AM
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If you follow the link, you find

According to the police report, Sanchez "never gave Ron Jeremy permission to touch her."

From her telling of it, it doesn't sound like she heaved herself at him.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:42 AM
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all of which I sign 'RJ with a heart' and if i

WRONG

THE close-quote should be after "RJ", not after "heart".


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:43 AM
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11: Ha ha, me too!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:43 AM
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11, 20: Me too.


Posted by: alif sikkiin | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:44 AM
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11: I thought the same thing. The giveaway was, McCain could only sign about 50 boobs before he had to get back to the Green Zone.


Posted by: DaveB | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:46 AM
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Alif, SB, her version doesn't pass the venerable smell test. Were she and her husband turned to stone in the presence of the Jereminator? How much time does it take to pull away if someone grabs your breast? Answer: less time than it takes for someone to reach under your shirt, pull out your breast and sign it.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:46 AM
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.


Posted by: Halfway Done | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:47 AM
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Even without the breast-presenting, if she was in the breast-signing line, it was an understandable mistake.

Like, if he *had* been signing penises and I was in line just to meet him, then, observing the doings of those in front of me, when I got to the front, I would be pretty quick off the bat with "now, I'm *not* here to get my penis signed," before it was too late.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:49 AM
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the venerable smell test

Yes, I'm picking up hints of bullshit with undertones of easy money in the bouquet.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:50 AM
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

Well done, Halfway Done.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:51 AM
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17, 18: I thought SB was talking about women, generally, whose breasts RJ signs, not the specific woman at issue. His description of women waiting in line to have their breast signed implies, it seems to me, that he is somehow able to distinguish between those who do want a breast signed and those who don't. That might not be the necessary reading of his description, but it's not a crazy one, either.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:52 AM
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23: How much time does it take to pull away if someone grabs your breast?

Well, if he's got a firm hold on that nipple...


Posted by: alif sikkiin | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:52 AM
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If you're signing 100-200 boobs it gets so mechanical that you don't even notice the individual boob and its attached person. You just crank them out. If there's an unconsenting boob in the line, you might not notice until it's too late. What happened to Jeremy has happened to me, and I'm willing to bet it's happened to many of you.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 9:59 AM
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30- I've never been asked to sign a breast. [Hangs head in shame.]


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:01 AM
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30: But I reckon he was in that signing line for a while, probably 1-2 hours. That means he was only doing 1.5 to 2.5 boobs per minute. That leaves time for chit-chat and stepping away from groping.

It's usually not until I've got a really pressed schedule and have to move up to 8-10 bpm that it really gets mechanical. Push-up bras tend to be a real time-saver.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:04 AM
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The more I think about this, the stranger it is. What's Jeremy's motivation for a forced signing? That he might get to touch yet another breast?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:11 AM
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31: You need a publicist who'll put you out there for signing whatever's out there.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:12 AM
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Brock, will you sign my titty?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:20 AM
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33- you say that as if the awesomeness of touching breasts might be subject to diminishing returns. Which is of course not true.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:21 AM
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Normally laughable as this sort of explanation would be, this really does sound like it might have been an innocent mistake. If Jeremy had been autographing breasts (which, what's the point? Isn't an autograph supposed to be a memento? Why on a body part where it's going to get washed off) and the complaining woman had walked up to interact with him for some other reason ("Golly, Mr. Jeremy, I love your work!"), a businesslike grab-the-breast-with-one-hand-to-steady-it, sign-with-the-other seems as if it could happen pretty quickly before the misapprehension could be corrected (assuming a low-cut garment).

The appropriate response here sounds like "Whoops, sorry," rather than a lawsuit.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:22 AM
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LB sounds as though she speaks from experience.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:22 AM
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Apo, just so you know, if we ever meet I'm holding you to that. I'll have my sharpie ready.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:23 AM
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38: Yeah, the worst thing about it was that the marker I was using was indelible -- she was wearing turtlenecks for weeks.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:24 AM
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LB has to bring her Sharpie to the next meetup!


Posted by: DaveB | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:27 AM
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Titty in my hand
I sign with blithe unconcern
Where did that come from?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:28 AM
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At least you used a marker, LB, unlike Dr. Zarkin.

One of my daughters has her name written all over her back, courtesy of her sister. Their markers apparently aren't quite as washable as advertised.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:31 AM
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And then there's Dr. Guiler. Go Wildcats.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:41 AM
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One of my daughters has her name written all over her back, courtesy of her sister, an Officer at a remote prison.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:42 AM
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Nice, w-lfs-n.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 10:46 AM
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11: See, when I saw the post title, I was dead sure this was going to be about Cheney in the White House bushes. But noooo.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 11:12 AM
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I, too, thought it was about McCain.

Why on a body part where it's going to get washed off

I originally read this to mean that LB was saying breasts are never washed and I was just all kinds of surprised.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 12:36 PM
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It's a little known fact, but they're water soluble.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 12:40 PM
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LB is the wicked witch of the West! Run for your lives! (Or alternately splash a little water on her.)


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 12:44 PM
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It's a little known fact, but they're water soluble.

I thought it was backward -- they're like those little foam dinosaurs that you soak in water, & they grow to double-size.

Now that I think of it, though, maybe I've just been encountering some really, really cheap-ass implants.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 1:07 PM
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breasts are never washed

I don't know that they're ever washed well enough. Now the back, that get s washed pretty good with a few quick swipes of the washcloth. Breasts, well, with them you have to take time, really pay attention to detail. I'm happy to provide hands-on instruction--classes are forming now. 3 easy payments!


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 1:16 PM
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In the movies, they seem to be the only things that get washed. Over and over.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 1:18 PM
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In the movies, they seem to be the only things that get washed. Over and over.

Which "movies" would those be ...?


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 1:32 PM
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Any R-rated movie with a shower scene.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 1:38 PM
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And the ones of Idealist that LB shot with the shampoo-cam.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 1:38 PM
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Oh Lucille!


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 2:00 PM
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Sorry if I missed it upthread, but no one's remarked on the fact that the # breast-autographer at this, um, event, was Jenna Jameson.

There are several possible explanations for this, but I wish there had been an emergency squad of social scientists on call to figure out which explanation was correct.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 3:54 PM
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I didn't gather from the article that it was a designated breast-signing line. Maybe my idiocy is acting up again.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04- 5-07 5:23 PM
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