Re: Breaking In

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Your friend Venkat should make a sitcom titled "Spice it Up!" about the harsh realities of the condiments business.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 12:13 PM
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Um, I meant ogged's friend. Should have checked the byline.

Also, I can't watch that stuff here ate work, but I will later. Congratulations, Joe-D, hope it takes off (mostly so I can say I knew you when).


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 12:14 PM
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Vertical integration!


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 12:14 PM
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Also also, I can't spell here ate work.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 12:15 PM
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WTF, is this Brown People Spice Month? Razib is doing it too. (I haven't checked Cosma, Amardeep, Aziz, et al.)


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 12:28 PM
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I'll give a plug for the show: it really is funny and well done.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 12:45 PM
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I'm confused about Venkat. Was he, in fact, ever a commenter here? Or was that just some weird joke of Ogged's that I failed to get because I'm humor-impaired?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 12:47 PM
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Actors on the New York stage don't make no "six figures" -- not even the ones working on Broadway. See:

http://playgoer.blogspot.com/2006/10/how-much-does-actor-make.html

or

http://www.actorsequity.org/Benefits/contractbenefits.asp


Posted by: julian | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 12:51 PM
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Some nice shots of the cast members (and of our own JD) at their opening party. Also, Behind the Scenes.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:00 PM
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I can't watch it now, since I can't find my ear plugs, and I don't have actual speakers on this computer. Plus, I need to finish up my taxes.

What network will it be on?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:02 PM
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Venkat is Unf? Or is Venkat Bob?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:03 PM
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10: Not a network, they're doing it as a YouTube based independent show. Although I think there's also supposed to be a podcast and other ways of viewing it, though I forget what they are.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:14 PM
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You guys rock.

So, the deal is, me and Ryan pretty much wanted to create a cult hit among the theater community to get ourselves attention and to make the industry think we're cool. We're getting great press so far. We're not really trying to shop this around, since we don't think it has much commercial potential. It's a pretty specific show about a pretty specific group of people. But the episodes are going to come out once a month (we have a 6 episode season scheduled). The best place to watch is google video, which our site links to. Supposedly it's available on itunes as well, but I literally know nothing about how to access it there.

The next 5 episodes will all feature cameos by Broadway names (the next one is going to feature Robert Cuccioli, who was the original Jekyll & Hyde). The guest stars all parody themselves, a la Extras.

Oh, and I think the pilot is pretty good, but we really hit our collective stride on Episode 2, which we just wrapped. Everything -- the performances, the writing, the directing, the editing -- will be better. The pilot is everyone's first attempt at a 1/2 hour sitcom.

Hey, how is everyone?


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:26 PM
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7: I've seen posts here by Venkat. He also used to be a regular at Begging To Differ.


Posted by: ptm | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:28 PM
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#9 - wow, what a bunch of skinny, ebullient men.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:32 PM
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Oh, julian --

Stars make that much. John Lloyd Young is making his Broadway debut playing Frankie Valli in Jersey Boys, and his salary is $20,000 a week.

A week, people.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:33 PM
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Woot! Go Joe D. I don't think you'll ever top "casus belli button ring," but these are some worthy efforts.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:33 PM
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Venkat was a commenter here, way back in the early days of the blog, usually posting as Balasubramani. If you had a spice store (and if the spices were any good), I'd be showing you the love too.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:34 PM
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Venkat is a real-life pal of ogged's too, I thought.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:46 PM
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Nope, never met.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:48 PM
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But if we had, 19 probably would have been an Indiscretion Error. You're hopeless.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:49 PM
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I thought you had copped to it in comments.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:51 PM
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But you were way wrong. Had you only been partially wrong -- that is, if -gg-d and Venkat were real-life buddies but they had not mentioned that in comments -- you would have been outing them.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:53 PM
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(If they had mentioned it in comments but it was not in fact true, I'm not clear what your status as truth-teller/rat/delusional would be.)


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:54 PM
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Venkat's site only has two spice mixes for sale?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:57 PM
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Inadvertent outing doesn't count as an indiscretion error.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:58 PM
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So, the deal is, me and Ryan pretty much wanted to create a cult hit among the theater community to get ourselves attention and to make the industry think we're cool.

I'm glad to read that, as my first thought when reading about it and watching the trailer was, "Oh my god, they're doomed--the theater geeks are gonna love it, but who else will care?" But for your purposes, that's just fine.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:59 PM
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Venkat's site only has two spice mixes for sale?

Three, actually, but to get the third you have to buy the other two and mix them yourself.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:59 PM
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It would if this were baseball.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 1:59 PM
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29 to 26.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:00 PM
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28 -- if you follow that path, infinitely many spice mixes are available from Venkat's site.

29 -- but if that were true many things would be different.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:05 PM
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("infinitely" s/b "uncountably")


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:06 PM
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28 -- if you follow that path, infinitely many spice mixes are available from Venkat's site.

You need an extra premise there, viz., that changing the ratios results in a different spice mix. But this is precisely what I deny: changing the ratios doesn't change the spice mix, it just changes whether you've made the only spice mix possible correctly or not.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:13 PM
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So what's the correct ratio?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:17 PM
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I mean this as no disrespect to Venkat, but I would not buy a spice mix that had no indication as to what spices were in it. I've looked around his site a couple of times now, and if there's even a partial list of ingredients, I haven't found it.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:18 PM
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25: There's a backstory of how he's doing the US distribution of the spice his mom makes in her kitchen. Or something like that.


Posted by: m | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:19 PM
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If there's no list of ingredients, how do we know the two mixes contain distinct ingredients instead of just different ratios?


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:22 PM
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Is Venkat's online store one of those online stores where you cannot actually buy anything?

I don't have an MBA, but it doesnt seem like a great business model.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:22 PM
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You just don't understand the new economy, will.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:26 PM
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18: No spice store, just my own lovable self.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:29 PM
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We are all aware you don't have a spice store, b.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:32 PM
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And I am aware that you are all aware of it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:34 PM
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And we are all aware that you are aware etc.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:35 PM
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Whether you have a spice store or not more or less depends on how you interpret the Song of Solomon.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:36 PM
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41 -- but did we all previously know that she is, per 40, selling herself?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:36 PM
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45: Anyone who didn't obviously wasn't paying attention.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:38 PM
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45: But will she tell us what she is made of?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:42 PM
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47: Again, not paying attention.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:43 PM
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Ah! But does not the proverb say: Sugar and spice and everything nice? QED, B is Venkat.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:44 PM
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Sugar and spice and everything nice

The proverb does say this, but I fail to see its relevance to b.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:45 PM
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...since she is, of course, not a little girl.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:46 PM
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No spice store, just my own lovable self rack.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:48 PM
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51: Did you just call B fat?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:49 PM
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I'm going to let my words speak for themselves. Also, I have a meeting in a few minutes, so as much as I've enjoyed hanging out here again for a little while, I'm going to have to be leaving soon.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:51 PM
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Another clue: So teofilo has an actual job. No wait, teofilo said "meeting." Teofilo could be someone famous. Now who could teofilo be....


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:54 PM
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Thanks for giving us a heads-up, teo. We do worry.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:55 PM
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Congrats, Joe. The pilot is funny! Coincidentally, I know one of your actors.

Also, there are a number of people of my acquaintance who are filled with rage/exasperation at the very mention of the name "John Lloyd Young."


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 2:59 PM
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I think Teo's point is that I'm self-involved. But really, that's part of my charm.

Speaking of people's personal lives, btw, Teo, how is your dad doing?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 3:01 PM
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58: I was wondering about that too Teo. Were you able to spend spring break at home?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 3:09 PM
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mrh - which actor do you know?


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 3:31 PM
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I don't know any of the actors but found the pilot funny regardless.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 6:09 PM
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Tra/cee Chi/mo. I "know" her in the sense that I do her website, although I don't necessarily want to take credit for the ... visual design aspects of it.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 6:51 PM
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Are all actors and writers so ungodly skinny? Why is it that the critic is the only healthy eating one?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 6:54 PM
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I "know" her in the sense that I do her

Hey come on man, don't kiss and tell.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 7:02 PM
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63: I think they can't afford to eat very much, mostly. Either that or Joe and Ryan are totally sizeist.

Probably the latter, come to think of it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 7:30 PM
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Was he a critic? I figured he was the woman's agent -- because she said to the composer her agent was in the audience.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 7:32 PM
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65: That might be the ultimate bphd comment ever.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 8:38 PM
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Hey, it's a real word. I didn't make it up.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-13-07 9:51 PM
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I'm not a theater person by any stretch of the imagination, but I have hung out with enough of them to find the pilot episode cringe-inducingly embarassing. I can't imagine people in the theater scene, esp. in New York, not finding it similarly unbearable and fascinating. And of course, real theater people have a higher tolerance for embarassment than I do.

So, it was excellent. Good show, Drymala!


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 04-14-07 10:20 AM
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58, 59: My dad's doing pretty well, but he doesn't have much energy these days. They've got him on a new chemo regimen that's a different mixture of drugs he's already taken, and it actually seems to be working pretty well; today he apparently got a call from the clinic and they said one of the indices of tumor size they can determine from his blood has gone down a lot. I was home for Spring Break and he was in pretty bad shape then (tired basically all the time), but he seems to be doing better now. Thanks for your concern, everyone.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-14-07 1:07 PM
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I've been way remiss in reading the threads for at least the last several months, due to general busy-ness, so I didn't know your dad was undergoing chemo, teo. Best of vibes to him and you and everyone else who's a part of his life, and glad to hear that he's doing okay.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 04-14-07 10:35 PM
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Yowza, Ogged seems to be taking grief for hyping the spice rubs.

There's really no backstory. These are spices that are old school South Indian spices. Over the years I started using them in my cooking and people started asking me about them. So finally, I decided to get some bottles, labels and bottle them (my mom makes them although she's passed on the secret mix to me). Initially I tried to take the grocery store distribution route, which looks bleak. I have a bunch of stock so I decided to sell them online. I used to read/comment and for some reason I decided to send Ogged some.

The site needs some work (Jackmormon I agree - I'll include some details).

M/tch M/lls: your comment was cold - although it was spot on.


Posted by: Venkat | Link to this comment | 04-14-07 11:15 PM
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Venkat, Ogged takes grief about everything here. It's his role in life.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-15-07 12:19 AM
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Didn't mean to be cold, Venkat. I was just riffing on the Drymala situation. Anyway, I'm all vinegar and no bite, so pay it no nevermind.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 04-15-07 1:19 AM
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