Re: Love Is Kind

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I can't believe that nobody has commented on this thread yet. I'm nearly speechless myself, but I can't leave this post with a big fat zero next to it.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:33 PM
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You're fishing for google hits, aren't you O?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:37 PM
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Michelle Shocked.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:38 PM
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Hoar hunters are in the coveted 18-49 demo.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:38 PM
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'Unwild?' Seriously?


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:39 PM
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Enwhitelment rears its ugly head yet again? Quelle surprise.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:41 PM
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UR UNWILD seems to have been an afterthought, along with ANNOYING, which is written in the margins with an arrow.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:42 PM
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I'm pretty sure the author is Puerto Rican. "my own father calls my mother negrita & I call you blanqueta"


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:43 PM
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6: They are both Puerto Rican, from what I can gather.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:43 PM
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I blame the douchebagarchy.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:43 PM
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You think a white guy would use "lightskinned" as a compliment? I doubt he's white.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:44 PM
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UR UNWILD

That should be a Valentine's day conversation heart message, if it isn't already.


Posted by: Junior Mint | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:44 PM
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Clearly, he should dump her, already. I mean, she won't evun take it in the ass for that most excellent compositioner?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:44 PM
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In the selected excerpts from an intercepted chat between C and R, there is much discussion of whether R is really PR, because otherwise C may not be willing to dump the love-letter author for him. Too many Mexicans disguising themselves as PRs, it seems.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:45 PM
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Damn Mexicans.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:46 PM
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It's a really intense NYC thing. All the other hispanic groups despise Mexicans, or at least the possibility of being mistaken for a Mexican. In the chats, C tries to use a little Spanish to R, who apparently has very good Spanish, but C isn't great at it. R's language skillz make her paranoid, I think, that he's not really Puerto Rican, since PRs mostly arrived a few generations ago.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:50 PM
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I stand corrected. The love life of the duskier ones is a mystery to me.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:51 PM
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Growing up playing soccer was educational in this regard. IME, Argentines in particular really, really do not like being mistaken for Mexicans, Bolivians, etc.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:53 PM
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I think Argentinians like to think of themselves as European natives of South America. They all look like my Mexican brothers to me.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:55 PM
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Argentinians have Italian accents.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:57 PM
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19: See Apartment Zero. Fascinating thriller, but also an excellent depiction of racist hierarchies and pretentions in 80's Buenos Aires.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 4:57 PM
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Is this the note Baldwin sent to his kid?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:01 PM
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12: To go with these?


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:03 PM
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The one Argentinian I know, a committed (upper-class) Marxist, is exceedingly racist, and has commented to me that Mexicans "don't like to work very much". How this perception has survived living in the Twin Cities, where virtually every restaurant kitchen is laden with Mexicans who work 60-hour weeks, and where a 3-mile section of the main drag is composed almost exclusively of Mexican-owned businesses, has always baffled me.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:04 PM
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"I deffinately have not cheated on you (note: since 2 yrs ago) or have flirted with any of your friends or girls you know in general."

I wonder how many girls react well to "I havent flirted or even had sex with a single girl that you know!"


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:31 PM
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25: With "deffinately" in there, to let her know that he has thought about it and he is sure!


Posted by: Junior Mint | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:45 PM
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At least he didn't call her a nappy-headed hoar.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:45 PM
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27: Well, he didn't in the bits AWB excerpted, at least.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:47 PM
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Also, why is ogged linking to three-week-old posts?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:51 PM
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Speaking of bad words, and apropos of the recent Imus discussion, Russel Simmons wants to remove bad words from rap.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:01 PM
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Wow, Russell Simmons is the Howard Kurtz of rap.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:05 PM
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Crap. NPR just reported that David Halberstam was killed today in a car accident.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:06 PM
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Don't you know your Donovan, ogged? Love is hot.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:19 PM
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Oh, that sucks. I've taken the turn at which he was killed a hundred times, and it is kind of dangerous. Fucking hell.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:20 PM
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32: Damn. I love Halberstam. That's terrible.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:25 PM
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Seriously. Fuck.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:28 PM
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I think 29 is pwned by 3, but this comment now seems trivial in light of the news in 32.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:30 PM
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Bleah, suck.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:30 PM
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I was sort of afraid of having killed the thread with that announcement. Sorry about that. It seems so horrible that he should have died while Bush was still in power.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:39 PM
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A shame. Too bad he missed the introduction of articles of impeachment against Cheney.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 7:39 PM
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You say greatest love/breakup note ever, I say sounds like Cho.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:04 PM
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Can't it be both?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:12 PM
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That really sucks about Halberstam. Sersiously. Dammit.

But, the thread must go on. Still, why couldn't it have been Friedman or Dowd? Why??

Okay, really, the thread must go on: I love finding stuff like what AWB found. A similar pleasure is overhearing the conversations of strangers.

One of my favorite things about spending the summer of 2002 in NYC was that the ground floor (i.e about six feet below street level), long & narrow (i.e. "railroad" ), Alphabet City (c. 11th and D) apartment in which I was subletting a room had a living room up front with a window right on the street. There was a translucent curtain, so you could sit there unobserved reading or whatever but still catch all the snippets of conversation of passers-by as they trudged along mere feet away from you.

I particularly remember a woman with a thick Jersey accent exclaiming to her walking partner, with the perfect mixture of true love and utter contempt, "Honey, you're such a lazy fuck!"


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:10 PM
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Still, why couldn't it have been Friedman or Dowd? Why??

They're significantly younger, for one thing.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:25 PM
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He died as a passenger in a car accident.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:27 PM
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Yes, but the probability of him dying in some manner was a lot higher despite the fact that his actual manner of death was totally coincidental.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:30 PM
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Older people are more likely to die, generally speaking, but given that he seems to have been in good health, the probability of him dying this year was likely about as low as that of the other two.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:33 PM
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Okay, granted, but assuming all three of them were in equally good health his probability of dying was presumably at least a little higher.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:35 PM
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Somehow I knew when I posted that comment that this would be the result.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:37 PM
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A little, sure. But the other two deserved it way more.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:39 PM
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I won't argue with that.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:41 PM
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I dunno. Friedman looks like his arteries are starting to clog up. Halberstam was only 73, and he looked like one of those skinny old guys who goes on for ever.

Dowd, being a single, childless, rich, white woman, is probably going to live for ever. (Marriage lowers female life expectancy but increases male life expectancy.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 3:33 AM
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For the cause, I'd be willing to marry Dowd. She won't last five years.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 4:13 AM
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GodDAMNit, how did my note end up on the sidewalk?


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 7:49 AM
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All the other hispanic groups despise Mexicans, or at least the possibility of being mistaken for a Mexican.

I don't think the hierarchy is as simple as that -- I've listened to a Colombian and a Mexican bond over the fact that at least they don't talk like Dominicans, while telling rude Domincan jokes, which I probably shouldn't repeat. The social hierarchy goes around and around in circles. (In NY, Puerto Ricans probably scorn all other latinos more than the reverse, but that's mostly because they're likely to have lived in NY for much much longer.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 7:54 AM
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53: Give her hell, sir.

"I regard it as evidence of a benevolent Deity that Mr Gladstone should have married Mrs Gladstone, and thus created only two unhappy people in the world, rather than four." - Benjamin Disraeli


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 10:08 AM
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