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a cute Iranian woman

On a scale of 1 to 10, how happy would this make your mother?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:35 PM
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but then I don't have all my kidneys, so I have to recalibrate a bit here.

Just come clean and admit that you're jonesing for a kid. Nothing to be ashamed of; it happens to all of us.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:39 PM
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Ironically enough, my moustache is on my back.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:39 PM
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how happy would this make your mother?

Like I said, the woman's kinda short, so I'm going to say 7. If she were tall and beautiful, instead of short and cute, probably a 9 (I don't think my mom's scale has a 10).


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:40 PM
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not-new not-black Subaru Forester

Man, you sure can pick 'em.


Posted by: baa | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:42 PM
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More important to your mom: tall and beautiful or Iranian?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:43 PM
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I wondered if anyone would note that. Did you see the recent article in the Times where some guy had a great first date and never called the woman back because he saw her driving a Subaru and figured she was a lesbian?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:44 PM
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FSerious question:

Are all Iranian women busty?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:44 PM
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5: Unbelievable. Apo-worthy. baa is teh hero.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:44 PM
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tall and beautiful or Iranian?

Wow, seriously tough call. Probably Iranian, but she wouldn't be happy about settling. I think I'll go call my mother now. She's usually more reasonable than I make her sound.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:45 PM
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7: Talk about confusing signal with substance.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:45 PM
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My gf drives a forester. Is she a lesbian? Darn it!


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:45 PM
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I always wondered why there were so many Subarus in Portland. Now it all makes sense.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:47 PM
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Here's the Times article.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:48 PM
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My mother drives a Forester. I think there's something my parents aren't telling me here.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:49 PM
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Canned co-worker came in to sign some things today, and then ... refused to leave.

This is why you should keep a taser in your desk. It'd be fun.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:52 PM
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14: Martina Navratilova in a 2001 ad for Subaru, known to some as "Lesbaru."

I can't believe this sentence was actually published in a real newspaper.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:53 PM
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Thinking about this some more, it seems like there's a point where knowledge of cultural signifiers (often backed by social science data) combines with the intolerance of chance or coincidence characteristic of magical thinking. For example, once I went out running and, because I had been in a rush, ended up wearing a borrowed baseball cap with "$myhomecountry" written on it. (No meta jokes, please.) While running I remember thinking, "If I saw someone else wearing this cap, I would never think they were from $myhomecountry, because no-one really from $myhomecountry would be caught dead wearing a $myhomecountry cap."


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:56 PM
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18: "What's this? You're wearing the shirt of the band you're going to see? Don't be that guy."


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 6:59 PM
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No one believes I'm from Disneyworld when I wear my mouse ears, either.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:00 PM
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no-one really from $myhomecountry would be caught dead wearing a $myhomecountry cap

Quite right, but that's homecountry specific, too. If I saw someone with a "Mexico" hat on, I'd assume they were Mexican.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:00 PM
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My wife was varsity basketball in high school, and drives an Outback. No wonder I'm not getting any.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:00 PM
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If you showed up with a Mexican girl wearing a tall, beautiful hat that said "Iranian", would your mom be happy?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:02 PM
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I think I unfortunately signify that I'm not straight to dudes and that I'm not gay to women. It is a tragedy.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:02 PM
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Maybe if we took up a collection and bought you a pink Subaru?


Posted by: DaveL | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:05 PM
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24 Everyone assumes you're their competition!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:08 PM
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Except the gay girls.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:08 PM
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It seems I've been more successful than I ever thought possible in training my mom to LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE: I just mentioned that there was an Iranian woman lawyer around my age who works on my floor and my mom merely noted that it was nice that Iranians were succeeding in America.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:09 PM
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24: Keep your eyes peeled for dyke tykes like myself, and pounce on one.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:09 PM
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28: Your mom is letting the stereotype down.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:10 PM
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28: She knows when she's being baited.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:10 PM
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31: Either that, or she's trying to tell ogged that it's okay that he's gay.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:10 PM
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AWB, I still think that you should put an end to all these nuisance problems you've been having by becoming a nun. You could be the Maria Monk of our time.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:13 PM
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merely noted that it was nice that Iranians were succeeding in America

Did she say "Iranians" or "SOME Iranians"?


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:14 PM
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My first hookup after severing with my wife was with a really curvy Iranian.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:15 PM
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14,17: Jesus H. Why does the Times even still get to count as a serious paper?

24: I sometimes have the reverse problem. There have been some discouraging recent incidents.

28: Wow, what did you DO to that poor woman?


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:15 PM
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I see you have a mother, Tom. It was "Iranians."


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:15 PM
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My first hookup after severing with my wife was with a really curvy Iranian.

You poacher, now I'm honor-bound to cut off your cock.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:17 PM
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Lesbians certainly are sensible and unostentatiously tasteful.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:18 PM
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My Cinco de Mayo party featured delicious Iranian sweets. I don't think most of the guests got the joke.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:18 PM
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38: Well, technically she was a Persian Jew. Does that mean you only have to cut off the tip?


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:18 PM
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Ah, then you're covered.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:20 PM
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33: I would make a helluva nun.

29: Have you seen the webtv show "The Man Who Loved Lesbians"? It's pretty cute. Hold on, I'll find a link.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:25 PM
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40: I'll bite -- I don't get the joke either.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:25 PM
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Here's the first episode of three.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:25 PM
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*raised eyebrow*


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:26 PM
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45: Sometimes if your italics lean with enough straining intensity, a hyperlink just appears.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:28 PM
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45: The rare "i href" error?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:29 PM
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21: Yeah, but my point was about people's unwillingness to believe that, if some some object has cultural significance, that that significance wasn't intended to be signaled by the person wearing/driving/etc the object.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:29 PM
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Great show, doesn't overexplain, leaves a lot to the imagination...


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:29 PM
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((shit)) here


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:29 PM
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If I saw someone with a "Mexico" hat on, I'd assume they were Mexican

My informal survey shows that Red Sox caps are the favorite among Mexicans in Portland, and that no one wears "Mexico" hats, perhaps because there's not that much of an Iranian population here.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:29 PM
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((shit)) here


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:29 PM
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I hate the internet sometimes.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:30 PM
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49: Yeah, sorry, I didn't actually mean to disagree with the follow-up, even though it sounded that way. Your point is especially salient to immigrant kids, for whom all these signifiers are a minefield that their parents blithely traipse through. "They're going to think we're X!" They assume that everyone will in fact draw the "widely known" conclusion. Not that I, personally, ever paid attention to these trivialities.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:33 PM
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Canned co-worker came in to sign some things today, and then ... refused to leave.

Isn't this why, traditionally, people are let go on Friday? So they have a couple days to cool down before coming in and being clueless/shooting up the place?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:35 PM
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My brother's favorite hat when he was about six said "Cameroon." He wore it all the time, including in bed. I don't think, however, that anybody actually thought he was from Cameroon.

It is funny when signifiers collide. Timberlands in ruralMyState do not carry the same significance as Timberlands in urbanMyState.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:36 PM
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I hate my ice cube dispenser sometimes. No, always.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:37 PM
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Plus, the sort of lesbians who drive subarus are likely to not wear makeup or heels.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:38 PM
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No-Teva woman has updated her profile

I draw your attention to Rule No. 8: Thou shalt not repeatedly peruse a profile for one thou hast no intention of pursuing.

(If, on the other hand, pursuit is being conducted with suitable off-blog discretion...never mind.)


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:39 PM
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I hate my ice cube dispenser sometimes. No, always.

Me too! The ice tastes and smells kinda funny, and whenever we use it, our most annoying cat comes running and starts whining and reaching for where the ice is dispensed. It's unclear to me why she thinks she wants ice.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:42 PM
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55: Absolutely. This is why culture is independent of what's in anyone in particular's head, or even of the things you believe you're signifying by your choice of clothing or music or cars or whatever.

I would have expressed this better earlier were it not for the dinner I am cooking.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:43 PM
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Nuns don't wear habits any more, so if AWB entered the nunnery would have to go to a costume store or stripper supply store if she wanted to look the part.

I have known one guy married to an ex-nun who ended up lesbian, and another guy who was shacked up with a nun who had not yet left her order.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:43 PM
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I'm starting to understand John Emerson's relationship policy now. We thought he meant "none".


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:46 PM
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63: After the first sentence, I was hoping you were going to say you knew a nun who worked as a stripper. Not to say that you don't, of course.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:49 PM
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I hate when our ice (made in trays, not a dispenser) takes on that dread freezer flavor. I wonder if a covered ice cube tray would help, or just be a pain in the ass.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:50 PM
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In Portland there's a famous stripper who is a Lutheran minister's daughter. She actually made an NYC media appearance --she's a writer of sorts too. She goes by Viva Las Vegas.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:52 PM
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Dear Mineshaft,

My wife is unhappy. We always buy whatever cheap car we can afford, but she very much wants to own a Subaru Forester (true story). What should I do?

Pfootball


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:54 PM
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It's unclear to me why she thinks she wants ice.

My cat loves ice. While I drink coffee in the morning she licks her ice cube, which she requires me to place in a shallow dish on the coffee table.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:55 PM
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These are the icecube trays you want everybody wants.

guy who was shacked up with a nun who had not yet left her order.
That's the most wonderfully transgressive thing I've heard in a while.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:55 PM
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67: A Modern Love column, specifically.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 7:58 PM
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Like underage girls, nuns are innocent and appreciative. His gf had a very pleasant manner and was very funny.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:01 PM
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Wow. I'm surprised at the depths of my loathing for that woman.


Posted by: Counterfly | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:01 PM
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66: I wonder that too, and it seems like it might be worth figuring out purely in the interest of science. I'm not optimistic, though -- seems like freezer flavor eventually permeates pretty much everything, regardless of container.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:11 PM
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Cute and curvy is settling?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:19 PM
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71: Uh, yeah, wimmins totally hate sex. So true. To a one, we're all lying there getting raped, pleasurelessly. It can't have ANYTHING to do with being on Zoloft. No way. All that desire she used to have? False consciousness. Remember nothing and feel nothing and you're finally a "real" woman. Uh....


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:30 PM
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57: What do Timberlands signify?


Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:31 PM
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Nuns like sex, though. Just not overachieving strippers.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:32 PM
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Like her, I do wonder what's with all the Cosmo headlines about sex. Yes, they are all about male pleasure (usually with such brilliant "secrets" like "Try touching his penis!!"), but most of the women I know who read Cosmo don't care about fucking. They like to shop.

Maybe the sex stuff gives you something scandalous to read to your friends while you get your nails done?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:34 PM
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No-Teva woman sounds interesting but overly invested in attempts at clarification. Reaching, in other words.

All these markers ogged quotes, in the absence of any actual text from No-Teva woman, make it sounds like she, um, can't construct an actual paragraph in her own right? She's all: be like this; not like this; like this; not like this.

As in, I am inarticulate, figure me out yourself. Ugh.

Are all online dating ads like that? I've never looked at them.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:35 PM
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I've never looked at them.

You're depriving yourself. They're fascinating.

But mostly inarticulate.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:39 PM
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Around here, parsimon, we call that being incisive, and praise it.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:40 PM
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Anytime I read a personals ad that employs different combinations of two or three clause structures in successive sentences, I get pretty excited.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:41 PM
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I've never looked at them.

If you also "never watch television," you're banned.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:41 PM
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We should write a Ciceronian personals ad for AWB.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:43 PM
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Liv Osthus's whole genealogy is on the net. Williams College seems proud of her too. No other publications, apparently.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:44 PM
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85: Talk dirty to me, Ben.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:45 PM
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As an English teacher, probably AWB would probably be a pushover for a guy who effectively used the subjunctive


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:46 PM
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Is 73 directed at the author of the ML column linked in 71? Cause I could get down with such a sentiment directed that way. Although I have myself aspired to be a tatooed mortgage broker to the alternative crowd.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:48 PM
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I'm not even an English teacher, and use of the subjunctive would get my attention.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:48 PM
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In the stack of papers I'm grading, I'd just be happy if they'd just recognize the conditional. Sigh.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:48 PM
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My prose got a lot more unwieldy my third year of high school, when we were translating Cicero's first speech against Catiline in my Latin class. Since then it's mellowed, and I don't know if my clausal jugglery is up to the task.

I can offer you this, though.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:49 PM
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They're fascinating.

They certainly are. These people seem to be making the most of their retirement. (NSFW)


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:52 PM
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82:

I liked Coldplay for about 6 months the first time I heard them. Then someone told me I should listen to Radiohead. I'm still waiting for copies from friends of various Radiohead albums; they don't seem to consider it a priority. I have one. I like it as far as it goes.

"Incisive" is going a bit too far. Though.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:53 PM
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Not to wax clowny, but The Bad Plus's rendition of "Heart of Glass" is really quite odd.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:54 PM
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93: How on Earth do you come across things like that? You're better at internetting than me.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:55 PM
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He just rummages through his back pocket.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:55 PM
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Newbies, I tell ya.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:56 PM
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One of you guys should take her to prom and blog it.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:57 PM
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Not to wax clowny

Please refrain from the waxing -- I treasure my bodily hair.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:58 PM
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Personal ads are hilarious. Ones with photos are better. A window into the human mind, ie shockingly large numbers of supposedly straight guys think it's a good idea to photograph their abs in the bathroom mirror.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:58 PM
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My mom called back.

"Don't you think you should get to know this Iranian woman?"
"I don't know mom, she's short."
"Is that important to you?" (Wily, my mom.)
"I don't know, is it important to you?"
[considers]
"If she's a good person, it doesn't matter if she's short."
[pause]
[silence]
"Is she very short?"

Hahahaha!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 8:58 PM
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I'm feeling newbile myself. Where the heck is that post where you briefly pined for blue-sweater-and-jeans person? I've looked everywhere.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:00 PM
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102 - That's awesome.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:00 PM
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I can't be the first to think Ogged's Mom needs posting rights to this blog.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:05 PM
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77: Timberlands (caveat: this is an outsider's view).

City: Young folks of all ethnicities who are members of City Year, or young black people with a keen interest in fashion/trendiness. Groups can be distinguished because the former actually allow their shoes to become slightly used-looking.

Rural: People with jobs that require heavy-toed shoes, and/or people whose lives entail sufficient "hiking" (that is, on foot on rough terrain) to make such shoes useful.

Exception (worn in city, suburban, and rural settings): Construction workers.

93: Apo, isn't it stretching things a bit to call Casual Encounters a personal ad?


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:05 PM
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Where the heck is that post

I can't find it either. I thought it included a link to finslippy.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:06 PM
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No-Teva woman sounds interesting but overly invested in attempts at clarification. Reaching, in other words.

Probably perfect for ogged, then, if you think about it.

I keep imagining ogged's mom as the mother in Bend it Like Beckham.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:09 PM
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My comment linking thereto was going to be so a propos.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:09 PM
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103/107 - Was it a comment on one of the unpublished Labs posts?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:10 PM
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Just marry a random Iranian woman and be unhappy. No use trying to cheat fate. Explain to Wife X that you did it mostly for your mother's sake and that requests and other concerns should be routed through your mother.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:14 PM
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Hey, speaking of following up, the cheater just hit #745.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:20 PM
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112: why don't you try taking a few steroids and seeing how many homers you hit.

Bonds just got sick of juiced-up mediocrities hitting 30 a year, so he decided to show 'em what it looks like when the great ones get a little extra help. I find him inspiring.


Posted by: MQ | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:22 PM
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Don't derail this thread.

And Fuck Barry Bonds.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:25 PM
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And Ogged's mom rules. You can sense the struggle as she weighs her high standards for a daughter in law with the ever increasing odds that Ogged will never procreate.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:26 PM
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Yeah, for Jesus' sake, this thread is about nun sex. Have you no reverence?

Not you, Jesus. The other Jesus, for Christ's sake.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:27 PM
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Hey, fuckers, I drove a Subaru wagon for years, until it gave up the ghost and I gave it away for free. AND it had junkyard sidepanels and a hood that was a different color from the body.

Subarus are awesome. But I'm pissed now that all their wagons are technically freaking SUVs. Sellouts.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:30 PM
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Ogged, you should go out with this woman. Especially if her name is something that sounds alluring to Iranians but ridiculous to normal Americans (I'm thinking "Nooshin" here).


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:34 PM
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There you go, back on track. How short is she, Ogged?

(hahahahaha. cheatercheatercheatercheater.)


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:38 PM
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But I'm pissed now that all their wagons are technically freaking SUVs.

What? We've got an Outback, and it's a 4 cylinder, as are the regular Legacy wagons and the Impreza wagons.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:39 PM
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I missed the New Yorker thread, so I'm going to complain here that their "everything" RSS feed does not contain "everything": other feeds have other articles in addition to ones that come through on the everything feed.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:40 PM
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I can't recall having heard of a mother finding height to be a major issue for a prospective daughter-in-law. But I'll still second Ogged's mama getting posting rights.

116: clarifying, what was so great about the nun sex was that it was while she was still in the order. So like, he was doing Jesus' wife.

Me, I like Subarus Lesbarus. Must be all the time I spent in Vermont.


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120: I think it's that they raised them high enough to qualify as SUVs in order to get the lower gas mileage or emissions thingies. At least that's what I seem to remember hearing. If I'm wrong, I'll be glad when the time comes to buy another car, unless we really do decide to get a damn yuppie Prius.


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95: Not to wax clowny, but The Bad Plus's rendition of "Heart of Glass" is really quite odd.

I'll do it for you. You start out thinking that they're poking fun at it until they get an honest groove going at the end. But something's weird: They're grooving in 7! And you know that "Heart of Glass" couldn't possibly in be 7, so they must still be making fun of it. But then you actually listen to Blondie's version and notice that, in fact, there are two skipped beats during the keyboard solo, just like the groove the Bad Plus plays. And then you just don't know what to think, but can no longer hear "Heart of Glass" without stopping everything and listening for those two skipped beats.

There's a reason I mostly just lurk.


Posted by: oztk | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:41 PM
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I like the pause because it's like ogged tapped into her deepest fear, that he had fallen in love madly with a midget.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:42 PM
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What's up with the immigrant mothers and their sexist requirements that their beloved darling boys marry only the most beautiful women? Mr. B.'s mom was like that.

Yeah yeah, go to town on that low-hanging fruit there. Just don't make yourself sick.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:43 PM
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The Prius is yuppie now? Bah. B, get the Prius. It's also on the list of lesbian cars, you know.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:46 PM
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Because it's battery powered?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:48 PM
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Oh, but wait. Can you wait until the 2009 comes out? If so, do; it's supposed to include a major redesign of the battery system, which will mean over 90 mpg.


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128: Nice.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:49 PM
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Meanwhile, you are all ignoring the problem of women desperately struggling to help giant tortoises jerk off. Thankfully, we have the NYT:

By coating her hands in the genital secretions of female tortoises and gently stroking him, she managed to demonstrate a couple of times (in the course of several months' work) that George was capable of an erection. But whereas her touch could induce other male tortoises to reach orgasm within a few minutes, with George she never managed to collect any sperm.

Several months?!


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:50 PM
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Whoops, here's the turtle-jerking link.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:51 PM
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I think it's that they raised them high enough to qualify as SUVs in order to get the lower gas mileage or emissions thingies. At least that's what I seem to remember hearing.

It's definitely not getting as good a mileage as our Corolla, but it's nowhere near as bad as an SUV. I think the official stats are 22 city, 28 or 29 highway for the MPG. We like to camp, so it's nice to have a wagon with better clearance than an average car.


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127: Oh, is it? Teh awesome!! And yeah, we can hopefully wait a couple years. As long as the second-hand Saturn keeps running and we don't need to buy a second car. I'm holding out, man, on the second car thing by doing HEROIC SHIT like teaching PK to bike. Which means that, like, today? A four-mile ride to the doc's and back took us FOUR HOURS.

You people cannot possibly understand how difficult it is to pedal that slowly behind someone who is prone to stop randomly while shouting directions like "stay away from the outside of the bike lane!" and "don't slow down in the middle of the intersection!" and "you're doing great!" in just the right tone so that you can be heard, but you won't piss him off and make him slam on the breaks so that he can yell at you/cry. Ho. Lee. Shit.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:52 PM
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The graphic with the turtle weeping into a broken heart SRSLY?


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133: Eh, my old Legacy wagon had perfectly adequate clearance. And at fifteen years and 214k miles when we bought it, it got about 29mpg for most of the time we owned it. They should be doing better, dammit.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:55 PM
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B, are you the youngest child in your family?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:56 PM
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Japanese parents (mothers, mostly) slap plastic kiddie seats on ordinary bicycles and ride around with their toddlers aboard. It's not unusual to see a mom pedaling along with one kid perched atop the handlebars and another over the rear wheel.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:56 PM
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#135: Budget cuts. Times are tough.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:56 PM
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131: See, that should totally be a Modern Love column.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:57 PM
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I thought it was.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 9:58 PM
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in just the right tone so that you can be heard, but you won't piss him off and make him slam on the breaks so that he can yell at you/cry. Ho. Lee. Shit.

You need to yell more, get him used to it. My kids are accustomed to me yelling stuff like "get a fucking move on" if they're going too slow.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:07 PM
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Make sure not to yell "get the lead out", though, because he will have no idea what you mean. It ranks just behind "capisce?" as things that adults say to children which universally baffle children.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:12 PM
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I remember being puzzled by "one bite at a time," meaning swallow what's in your mouth before putting more food in it. But to my little kid dictionary, a bite was an act of chewing and I was being admonished for somehow doubling up on my bites or chewing too fast or something.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:15 PM
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I thought "capisce" was something only security guards said to shoplifter kids.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:18 PM
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137: No, the oldest.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:25 PM
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Subarus are awesome. But I'm pissed now that all their wagons are technically freaking SUVs.

Even the WRX?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:27 PM
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142: Well, he is too, but he was especially fragile today b/c the doc we went to see was a urologist, and he's not a big fan of doctors right now, and especially not doctors who want to examine his private parts. That and he's kind of a physically cautious kid, so pushing himself to ride his bike in traffic makes him quite nervous. Plus, hot day, long ride.


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147: Yeah, like I'd be caught dead driving that. Gimme a break.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:29 PM
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148: Then afterwards his eyes were dilated, and, on the ride home, his long hair kept obstructing his vision, and he ran over a mouse…


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:30 PM
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137/146: Why do you ask?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:31 PM
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The trauma of the uncircumsized continues.


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150: Dear god, that's not even funny.

Urologist. Not optomotrist. That was last week.

He did make squeaking noises on the way home, which was getting on my nerves and I told him to cut it out until he told me that he was doing it b/c the noises were "cute, and they make me feel better." At which point obviously I advised him to keep doing it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:32 PM
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physically cautious

We've been over this.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:32 PM
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like I'd be caught dead driving that

I've driven one of those before. It's one hell of an engine they stick in them. The most enjoyable station wagon driving experience on God's green earth. VROOOOOMMMMMM!


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153: Sorry.

Although, my urologist always dilates my eyes. Am I being had?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:34 PM
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149: What exactly is the problem with it? The hood scoop?


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157->156.


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152: No, the doc said he's fine. But even so, I was surprised that his general attitude seemed to be pro-circ; he was all, well, at this point obviously circumcising him would totally traumatize him, so there's no reason to do it unless he's in pain, which he isn't, blah blah. And I was all, dude, a *lot* of men including his father don't have completely retractable foreskins until they're like 10, 12--what is this???

Then again, both the urologist and his regular doc are Jewish, so maybe they just don't know shit about foreskins. PK did observe that their names were, coincidentally, both "shiny" names, which kinda amused me. (Goldberg, Silverstein.)


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:36 PM
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159->157.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:38 PM
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"I heard he had, like, thirty goddamn hood scoops..."


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:39 PM
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Then again, both the urologist and his regular doc are Jewish, so maybe they just don't know shit about foreskins.

Or, perhaps there's another reason every doctor you encounter is pro circumcision...


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157: Oh, "sport" models of cars just always annoy me. I'm not going to race the fucking thing, there's no earthly reason I need that much power. It's just a fucking waste and ruins the gas mileage.

154: Do not hassle my child just because he's smart enough to know when things are actually dangerous.


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146: Ah, just sounded like you hadn't been through the dawdling younger sibling on a bicycle routine. It's really great that PK is getting the idea of a bicycle as something you use to go places, rather than a toy you put away when it's time to get in the car.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:43 PM
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If you want to defend your kid the fraidy-cat, go ahead, but don't corrupt the blessed English language to do it.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:44 PM
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They're not pro-circumcision; both of 'em recommended against it. They're just kind of ignorant about foreskins. Like thinking that a 6yo with no actual problems might need surgery b/c his foreskin doesn't yet retract fully. Le sigh.

In fact, you'll be happy to know, *I* was the one who corrected the urologist about the health benefits of circumcision--he said the only real advantage is a lower incidence of cancer, and I said, well, and now they say HIV, and he was all, oh yes, that's right. So nyah.


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165: Yeah, yeah, ha ha. He isn't afraid of much; he just tends not to push himself physically to do things until he's sure he knows what he's doing. Just wait til you have kids and they all break their arms, and we'll see who's laughing then.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:47 PM
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My kids damn well better break their arms.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:48 PM
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Or you'll do it for 'em.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:49 PM
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They're just kind of ignorant about foreskins. Like thinking that a 6yo with no actual problems might need surgery b/c his foreskin doesn't yet retract fully. Le sigh.

Ahem.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:50 PM
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Despite being a complete danger to myself and others throughout my childhood, I managed not to break any bones until I was 27, when I broke a toe. Which I don't think actually counts.


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168-9: "Okay, Mario, this is how you log in to the blog's admin side; and this is how you do the 'hide more' thing; and—wait, wait, what are you doing?! NO! THAT'S ALL WRONG! A jihad on your arms!"


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:52 PM
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I confess I also did not break any bones until I fractured an ankle in high school.

B's kid is still a fraidy cat.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:53 PM
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170: Ahem yourself. Second paragraph.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:53 PM
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Okay, online personals people, I need a quick collective opinion: Trying to pick up some dude by e-mailing an academic journal article pdf I think he'd be interested in - deadly move?


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:53 PM
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deadly move?

Sounds ok to me; shows that you were actually thinking of him as a person.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:54 PM
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Crap. Oh well, here's the abstract.


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175: It'll either definitely get you a date, or else he'll think you're trying way too hard. What's his own education level?


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175: Depends on the article.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 10:57 PM
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He's an academic too (different discipline); the problem isn't so much trying to hard as reminding him that he's a nerd, being hit on by a nerd.

Maybe Apo's article would work better.


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"too"


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:04 PM
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Maybe Apo's article would work better

Well, it's a question of whether you want to jerk this guy around or not.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:07 PM
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reminding him that he's a nerd, being hit on by a nerd

This doesn't seem like a problem. Maybe he doesn't share your self-loathing.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:07 PM
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Cute and curvy is settling?

Yes.

Bwahahahahaha!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:07 PM
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175: We should probably rule out the one from 177, too.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:08 PM
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That hurts, SB.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:09 PM
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Still laughing!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:09 PM
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She looks kind of Swedish.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:12 PM
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Shit, that was two years ago. Who are you people?


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:13 PM
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Over two years! Good lord. I'm surprised at how many of those people are still around.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:17 PM
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No-Teva woman has now also ruled out tribal tattoos. But she likes McSweeneys.


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189-90: What have I done with my life?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:20 PM
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Maybe he doesn't share your self-loathing.

I was under the impression that you knew a lot of academics...


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:22 PM
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Fewer and fewer, but you make a fair point.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:24 PM
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184 made me pee a little. Too funny.


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LDL.


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Fewer and fewer

Bob didn't really have an "accident", did he.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:31 PM
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Who's Bob?


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You can't fool me. I'm Vincent D'Onofrio.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:35 PM
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In that case, I'm Bob, who happens to be my brother. But you knew that.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:37 PM
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Standpipe: REVEALED.


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180: If he doesn't like being reminded that he's a nerd being hit on by a nerd, how's he going to like being a nerd dating a nerd?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05- 8-07 11:39 PM
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Shorter 202: "wanna go to a conference?"


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Pretty much, yeah.


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202: Self-deception is foundational to relationships.

I elected not to send the pdf. Just mentioned the author and suggested he check out his work. Now everybody can go to bed.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05- 9-07 12:15 AM
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I'd say that can't be your final move, right? Pick-ups are so difficult these days.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05- 9-07 12:29 AM
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Does anybody still need anti-bouncer strategies?


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 05- 9-07 12:55 AM
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Anti bouncer?


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 9-07 1:00 AM
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Like what to do if you're the guy at work who won't leave?


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I still stand ready to defend Barry Bonds.

But 205: you're either a true Cerebrocrat or you're just another self-loathing nerd. Have the courage of your nick. Brains rule. The right man for you will be turned on by article references, in fact he'll want his small talk to come with extensive footnotes.

I'm not kidding, I find brainy women very sexy. Unless they're frigid or something, which sometimes happens. Especially with the hard scientists (who are way, way smarter than humanists, but occasionally have problems in bed. I may be overgeneralizing from a small sample, though).


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#199: You must really hate this game.


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210: Hard scientists have problems in bed? That seems like a contradiction.


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In the UK, Subarus sell to two markets, neither of them associated with lesbianism: 1) farmers, who were the original buyers of them back in the 80s, and 2) WRX STi-worshipping petrolheads.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 05- 9-07 4:54 AM
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What's up with the immigrant mothers and their sexist requirements that their beloved darling boys marry only the most beautiful women? Mr. B.'s mom was like that.

This might be shot down, but my guess is that it's a special, sex-specific version of immigrants general feeling about Americans: that life is so good, so easy here, compared with the limitations elsewhere, that there are so many good things easily come by, including so many beautiful women, that you must be some kind of loser unless you score big.

My dad's best friend, an immigrant scientist from Argentina, laid it out for me years ago: people in other countries feel conditions here are so favorable there would be domething wrong with you if you weren't a huge success. He laughed about it, he had learned it wasn't true, but he also said the belief was surprisingly persistant, and his wife had a very similar attitude to the "immigrant mother" thing. My dad's friend became much closer to his kids despite a messy divorce which barred him much access at first, because he accepted their spouses as people good enough for them and his wife just couldn't.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 05- 9-07 7:08 AM
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Following up my last: and psychotic headmasters, it seems.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 05- 9-07 7:44 AM
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But she likes McSweeneys.

But? This is not a point in her favor.

214: I think it's just that immigrants are sexist.


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But? This is not a point in her favor.

I read this:

No-Teva woman has now also ruled out tribal tattoos. But she likes McSweeneys.

to put the ban on tribal tattoos down as a plus and the McSweeeney-lovin' as a minus.


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TJ gets it.


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I won't produce my body for anyone who doesn't support habeas corpus...


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 05- 9-07 10:13 AM
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(okay, that's not quite as catchy as "girls say yes to boys who say no".)


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220:

Can't have the body without habaeus corpus.


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213: Wait, so you're saying that farmers are NOT associated with lesbianism?


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Organic farmers are still a minority, cerebrocrat.


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43, 51, 53 - Finally got a chance to watch those. Cute. I almost spewed tea over my keyboard when he had the accident with the sample cup.


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Fill in the Habeas Contest! I'll start:

Habeas lingus.


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