Re: Nanny State

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Is catsup OK?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:14 PM
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But can I put amniotic fluid on my pancakes?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:15 PM
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The Screen Actors Guild is part of the state?


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:17 PM
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From what I understand, it's good that they have these kinds of rules or they'd be coating babies in peanut butter and honey and rubbing shellfish in their hair if it looked good on camera.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:18 PM
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Why would they need to be part of the state, in order to make rules about working conditions in the industry? That is what unions do.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:19 PM
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4: Or even just for fun.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:20 PM
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Dude, I was just trying to make a joke. Babies, nannies, etc.

Sigh.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:20 PM
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Wasn't there a scandal when the producers of Goldfinger painted a baby to simulate the birth scene, and the baby suffocated?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:21 PM
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3, 7: D'oh! missed the post's title.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:22 PM
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Yet again we see the power of the currant lobby.


Posted by: ptm | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:25 PM
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I truly loathe the currant administration.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:26 PM
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birth-related fluids


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:28 PM
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2 -- the image to take away from this thread is one of Heebie putting amniotic fluid on her pancakes.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:31 PM
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But can I put amniotic fluid on my pancakes?

I'm guessing you've never been in a room with amniotic fluid.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:34 PM
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It don't smell like maple, is all I'm sayin'.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:34 PM
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I'm guessing you've never been in a room with amniotic fluid.

Are you kidding? I lived in one for nine months.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:36 PM
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lub-dub, lub-dub, lub-dub.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:36 PM
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Wouldn't actual birth-related fluids be most realistic? Those Hollywood types might have thought of that if they were more into recycling.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:38 PM
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Wouldn't actual birth-related fluids be most realistic?

Depends on the shelflife. Perhaps they brown, like an avocado.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:39 PM
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"Yeah, when we need to film amniotic fluid we go and get horse amniotic fluid. Human amniotic fluid doesn't look right on camera."


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:41 PM
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What happens, to amniotic fluid stored?

Does it brown,
like an avocado in the sun?
Or fester like a sore...

etc.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:49 PM
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Perhaps they brown, like an avocado.

Or explode, like a raisin in the sun.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:49 PM
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Great minds think alike.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:50 PM
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That pwnage really burns.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:50 PM
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I assume that a lot of stuff comes off on the way out the birth canal; ours, delivered by c-section, looked as though they were smeared with oatmeal. And red stuff.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:52 PM
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Were you in Portland, ME a couple weeks ago, Apo?


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:52 PM
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Considering where I've put K-Y jelly before, the thought that it provokes allergic reactions is unsettling.

"Studies show that K-Y in some women's rectums may make them allergic to a continued relationship. Results vary, however."


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:55 PM
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Considering where I've put K-Y jelly before, the thought that it provokes allergic reactions is unsettling.

Anderson lubed up a baby! Freaky-deaky!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 4:57 PM
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Heebie owns this thread. Bow to heebie.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:01 PM
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You have to lube up babies. Otherwise, they just tumble down the slide and all the other parents look at you funny.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:01 PM
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"Studies show that K-Y in some women's rectums may make them allergic to a continued relationship."

No kidding.

Can someone please explain the attraction of anal sex? It's utterly ubiquitous in porn, and I don't get it. Am I the only person out there who is completely grossed out by the thought, let alone the act?


Posted by: A. Chandler Moisen | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:02 PM
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I hate it when the baby starts to dry and gets all gummy.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:02 PM
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Meconium, lochia, colestrum.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:06 PM
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Colostrum.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:07 PM
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That's only because you've never had anal sex with me, ACM.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:07 PM
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Can someone please explain the attraction of anal sex?

It's how good girls preserve their virginity.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:09 PM
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Apo's anus is special. It goes to the Anal Special Olympics every year -- and wins!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:10 PM
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Women don't have maidenheads in their butts? Damn.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:10 PM
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No, but I'm sure someone can accomodate you if that's your thing.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:12 PM
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Can I have somebody else's maidenhead put into my butt? Like, with science?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:15 PM
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Women don't have maidenheads in their butts? Damn.

Go ahead and keep searching, John.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:17 PM
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I have been told that sonogram gel has the best texture for fake blood.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:36 PM
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Chilled, peeled grapes make excellent fake eye-balls. And I have a headband that makes it look like an arrow is passing through my head.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:45 PM
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I've been told that almost all professional pictures of ice cream are actually of Crisco, which doesn't immediately start melting under lights. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the claim.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 5:54 PM
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Considering where I've put K-Y jelly before, the thought that it provokes allergic reactions is unsettling.

Oil-based and silicone-based lubes can sometimes cause skin irritation and allergic reactions, although any decent sex shop should stock water-based lubes, too.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 6:07 PM
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Babies can legally only simulate sex scenes, so the point is moot.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 6:12 PM
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This must be new. The Coen brothers said that there were few restrictions on the use of babies when they made "Raising Arizona". They had a room full of moms with a bunch of almost-identical babies in a pit, and whenever a baby was needed they grabbed whichever one was cleanest and happiest.

By contrast, filming a lizard jumping off a perch was hemmed in by regulations and required a hired observer from the SPCA.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 6:22 PM
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Can I have somebody else's maidenhead put into my butt? Like, with science?

There are already procedures to reconstruct hymina, aren't there? Surely an enterprising plastic surgeon could put one in a butt.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 6:29 PM
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This is the fake baby we used.. gross huh? the other intern and I had to jell it up with KY jelly and rasberry jelly (seedless)


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 6:31 PM
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awwwwwwwwwwwww


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 6:38 PM
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That baby doesn't look happy.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 6:39 PM
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Happy babies don't look like babies on film. You have to use unhappy fake babies.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 7:02 PM
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All happy babies are more or less the same. Unhappy babies are unique in their own screamy way.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 7:18 PM
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I would just like to note that raisins in the sun do not explode, neither in real life nor in poetry.

So, despite the fact that he is teh hero, apo's pwnage was just and meet.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:00 PM
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They do when you're in luuuuvvvvv.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:02 PM
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Love was never mentioned, and it's too late for apo to bring it up now, heebie. You know the rules.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:04 PM
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Also, given my fondness for intact raisins, remind me never to woo you.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:05 PM
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I've got just the meat for you to pwn, M/tch.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:06 PM
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Pwn your own meat, sicko.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:09 PM
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Goodbye Heebie G.
Though I never knew you at all
You had the grace to send your ass
While those around you stalled
They stalled out at the Mineshaft
And they whispered in your brain
They peppered you with comments
And they made you capitalize your name

And it seems to me you've lived your life
Like a raisin in the sun
Never knowing who to
When the rain set in
I hope you don't explode
Even when you're in luuuuuuuvvvvvvv;
The raisin dried up long before
The stains there on your glove...


Posted by: Elton Clown | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:09 PM
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First, that's hilarious.

Second, raisins like being exploded. They think it's fun. That's how they know you care.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:11 PM
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But who cares what the raisins want?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:12 PM
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raisins like being exploded

Some do, perhaps; many are just too timid to speak out when they feel pressured into exploding. I think we should ban all handling of raisins, at least in the teenage years.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:14 PM
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However, raisins are good surrogates for nipples if you just have to tweak something.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:14 PM
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It's been a long time since you've tweaked something, huh John?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:17 PM
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62: See, you've never been in luuuuvvvvvvvv. If you gotta ask, you ain't never gonna know.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:17 PM
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John Emerson is french-kissing a gingerbread lady with raisin nipples.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:19 PM
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She's in between his mattress and his box spring, IYKWIM.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:20 PM
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69!


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:20 PM
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I've been instructed that nipple-tweaking is unromantic and sexist, even though for me nipple-tweaking is the ultimate expression of true luuuuuuuuuuuuuv. My life has been tragic.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:21 PM
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She's got gumdrop bazongas and buttocks like hostess snowballs.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:22 PM
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"like" s/b "of".


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:24 PM
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47: Here's the California Labor Code for babies in movies. The SAG rules are the SAG rules.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:24 PM
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Wouldn't actual birth-related fluids be most realistic?

Dude, disease risk much?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:24 PM
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B. still thinks childbirth is dirty because good Catholic girls are all virgin nuns.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:34 PM
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No, I think it has more to do with crapping while you push.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:43 PM
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76: They never show or mention that on TV and in the movies.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:45 PM
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Good Catholic girls don't crap when they push. That's God speaking directly to the doctor.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:45 PM
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Dude, disease risk much?

It's all about building up immunities, like when kitty backs into baby's face.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:47 PM
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77: They lie.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:47 PM
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My ex-Mormon wife did not crap.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:51 PM
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Was that the beginning of the end? (maritally and scatalogically!)


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 8:52 PM
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raisins in the sun do not explode

They do in Iraq.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-07 9:13 PM
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Wouldn't that be more of a 'birth-related semi-solid'?


Posted by: Nbarnes | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 1:48 AM
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Can someone please explain the attraction of anal sex?

There is an utterly unacceptable sexist punchline to this question which is only available to subscribers to my newsletter.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 2:48 AM
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Can someone please explain the attraction of anal sex?

I was going to try to respond to this, but all I end up wanting to say is that, if you're not into it, don't worry about why it's attractive to others, because if the concept grosses you out, the act will be lost on you, and furthermore attended by inconveniences which it is useless to explain.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 4:22 AM
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SANTORUM!

MANDOM.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 4:30 AM
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"which it is useless to explain" s/b "which Beefo Meaty will now enumerate"


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 4:32 AM
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Anal sex is usually a big production. You have to stop everything because you can't remember where you put the lube.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 5:04 AM
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A lot of things are a big production in the old folks home, marcus.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 5:06 AM
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89: A simple reminder to help with that: you put it on the penis and the anus.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 5:11 AM
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Apo hit that softball out of the park.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 5:26 AM
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Feeling overly cheery this morning? Low on outrage? Here's something that will help that.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 7:02 AM
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William Burroughs described it as "doing that which is inconvenient to [someone's] ass." (This is a deliberate mistranslation of inconvenant "unseemly".)

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass..." actually refers to something quite different, but the continuation "....nor his maidservant, nor his manservant" probably more or less covers what we're talking about.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 7:11 AM
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Not to mention his maidservant's ass. Or his manservant's, for that matter.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 7:13 AM
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I find it's helpful to think of anal sex like spinach. If you have it forced on you as a kid, you probably won't enjoy it as an adult.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 7:33 AM
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I think I am a counterexample to 96.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 7:39 AM
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31: The only attempt I've heard to reason it out was by a straight guy who'd never gotten fucked in the ass and his theory was not terribly informed. I'd say what AWB said but she beat me to it. Suffice to say, if you like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't. Even among gay men there are plenty who don't. From what I've read and been told, whereas internally gay men usually identify themselves now as tops and bottoms the social divide used to be ('50s and '60s here) between fuckers and suckers.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 7:48 AM
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between fuckers and suckers.

So awesome. And what great constituent parts for a musical.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 7:52 AM
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And with 98 I have successfully gayed up the baby thread. Ha!


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 7:53 AM
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93 -- man oh man.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:14 AM
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99: Yes, the Suckers and their not-terribly-subtle crypto-faghag token woman wage a constant battle in song and dance against the more recently arrived, more aggressive, rival Fuckers even as their former leader falls for the brother of the leader of their bitter foes. Somewhere along the way there's a short number set in a bridal shop as a way to keep straight people from feeling excluded. At the end the cops bust up a huge orgy in a public restroom.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:14 AM
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Some book I once read in college analyzing correspondence among Americans in the early 19th century, had a letter from a young man describing the possible outlets for sexual release as "fuck, suck, shuck [masturbate], or buck [homosexual anal sex]." Nicely pithy, I thought.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:18 AM
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I think I am a counterexample to 96.

What kids were you forced on, and how do you know they enjoy you now?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:19 AM
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I'll try!

Any, some, or all of these could be operating at one moment:

1) (only relevant for het men) often a tighter, more grasping space than a vagina. For gay men, a tighter, more grasping space than a mouth.

2) a little taboo

3) the feeling that no part of your lover's body is inadmissible to you

4) Intimacy arising from the trust necessary to perform an act whose potential to feel painful/invasive is so great. Relatedly, a mouth can open willfully and a vagina, depending on the person, sometimes moistens and dilates even in the absence of a lot of enthusiasm, but a lot of people are only in a position to receive anal sex if they feel comfortable and happy and relaxed. Ergo, your partner's ability to receive you without pain is an indication they're not just putting up with you

5) a pleasant association with the visual and tactile erotic stimulation of ass cheeks.

6) Finding assholes themselves attractive (maybe more likely when very clean and shaved).

7) your partner likes receiving it, and/or you get sympathetic pleasure from thinking about how it feels to you to have asshole stimulation.

8) you have some sexual interest in shit (not true for most anal sex givers, but for some). Somewhat less extreme, the idea of being inside entrails feels hot, like you're really deep in your partner. Related to (3).

9) it symbolizes violation or degradation to you (obviously not relevant to all people, but it's one reason to be into it). Even in happy, loving relationships, this can be hot, in the s/he wants me so bad s/he'll take cum on her face, take it in the ass, mm-hm, kind of way. A subcategory, really, of (3).


Posted by: Margaret Thatcher | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:21 AM
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102 -- title, Guys and Guys


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:23 AM
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102: You can't end with a bust--downer, dude--but otherwise, that's right where my head was.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:23 AM
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Those were all the reasons to be into giving, naturally, which is how I understood the question.


Posted by: Margaret Thatcher | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:28 AM
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Re Nineteenth Century: Huckleberry Finn talks about sucking eggs a lot. Mark Twain was always under a lot of pressure to clean up his language and become sivilized.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 8:33 AM
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Posted by: Margaret Thatcher

Maggie, we hardly knew ye ...


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 06-19-07 9:55 AM
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"Factoid of the day"

I realize no one will read this, but you're linking to a fact, not a factoid ("something which becomes accepted as fact, although it may not be true").


Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 06-23-07 12:39 PM
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I read it!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-23-07 12:43 PM
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me too!


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 06-23-07 1:03 PM
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