Re: You Can't Make This Shit Up.

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Rotating knives, yes.


Posted by: Ugh | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 3:31 PM
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You guys know the story of The One, right? Navy SEAL who cast the decided vote on wether or not to kill the Afgans who stumbled upon them. The vote was no, and not coicidentally the world soon came down on them. I'll try to find a link.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 3:33 PM
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Tassled - in the WaPo within the last month, IIRC.


Posted by: Ugh | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 3:39 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/10/AR2007061001492.html?hpid=topnews&sub=new

Yep


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 3:50 PM
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I remember along time ago having a beer with a snake eater who said that he was taught that if he ever got in a firefight it meant he fucked up. Snoop and poop was their game.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 3:58 PM
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A powerful read.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 4:03 PM
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correct me if i'm wrong about this but: didn't that seal dude, lutrell, commit the grave sin of submission to dhimmitude?

damn. if only he'd been as brave as a right-wing blogger. none of them would ever have done that.


Posted by: kid bitzer | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 4:15 PM
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Wow, I guess he became a Quran Alone muslim...


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 4:19 PM
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That story just makes me want to scream. You had to go through all that to realize that foreigners are human beings?


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 4:23 PM
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Quorn Alone? Is that halal?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 4:23 PM
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Is this guy replacing Stanley McChrystal?


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 4:31 PM
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well, it's like the british say about their death-trap cars: there are no atheists in vauxhalls....


Posted by: kid bitzer | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 4:32 PM
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12: I laughed.

What're gonna expect if you read that pinko rag, The Army Times?


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-29-07 8:11 PM
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Good story, but, "Part of his calculus was practical. 'I didn't want to go to jail.'"? Since when has anyone gone to jail for killing civilians? He's obviously using this as cover for his decency.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 06-30-07 12:39 AM
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If you have to kill someone, then for God's sakes, kill the right people

I have to say, this quote has it all. Words to live by.

Re the Post article: I really hope a good director makes that book into a movie. It has it all -- adventure, moral complexity and shades of grey, etc.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 06-30-07 1:05 AM
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If people took that advice seriously, no one would ever kill anybody. But that is impossible. Therefore, the principle is invalid. The killing must not stop.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-30-07 12:53 PM
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Yeah, all Rumsfeld's fault. None of those snake-eaters could ever think for themselves. Impressionable young men one and all. Ethical and principled and all that enlightended shit. From my perspective within the military, they went forward of their own accord. None opted out. They enjoyed the added benefit of conducting their murderous business under the cloak of darkness and the cover of anonymity. All the while, these special operators demonized those who taught and promoted existing regulations which defined such misconduct as immoral and illegal, namely for the Navy SEALS and Marine RECON, the defining obligation to the Geneva Conventions as describe in U.S. Navy Regulations. So, yeah, blame it all on Rumsfeld. I'm curious, why didn't Eric Olson say no and why does he get promoted for this failure?


Posted by: rich | Link to this comment | 06-30-07 3:10 PM
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If you have to kill someone, then for God's sakes, kill the right people

This is a TERRIBLE place to put the emphasis. The proper emphasis, as any Keyboard Kommando would tell you, should be: if you have to kill someone, then for God's sakes, KILL THEM IN THE COOLEST POSSIBLE WAY. Numchuks, piano wire, Hellfire up the tailpipe of their Toyota, GPS coordinates to an F-18 that takes out their entire fucking village. Or thumbs through their eyeballs. You don't get any bonus points for just shooting somebody at range with an M2. What are our armed forces coming to?


Posted by: brooksfoe | Link to this comment | 07- 1-07 11:55 PM
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