Re: Tasks the completion of which prompt one to wonder "what the hell am I doing?"

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Is this some philosophy thing, or have you just snapped?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 4:51 PM
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Really, Labs, there's sun! and fresh air! outside!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 4:51 PM
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Or at least, so the outside people tell me.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 4:55 PM
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Gil motherfucking Thorp, bitches.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 4:58 PM
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That's one shitty scan.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 4:58 PM
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No, it's a good scan shrunk down too much.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 4:59 PM
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I think I'm obligated to ask: what's Gil Thorp?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:03 PM
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This is really rather an obscure corner of the culture to be mocking so comprehensively.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:04 PM
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Somebody else reads the Comics Curmudgeon, I see.

Gil Thorp does raise interesting questions, though:

1) In a medium that is at least partially built around visual communication, how is it that something as stunningly badly drawn as Gil Thorp achieves even modest success? Seeing it on a significant daily's comics page is like turning on the TV and seeing a public access show from 3 a.m. on a major network or cable channel.

2) The art isn't all of it. The other amazing thing about Gil Thorp is just the sheer confusion that comes from reading it in sequence. I almost think sometimes that it's like a way more subtle and canny kind of Zippy-the-Pinhead series built around narrative confusion, free-floating signifiers, and Waiting-for-Godot style dialogue.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:12 PM
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I'm not mocking it; remember, this is someone who loves Stover at Yale. And I don't think it's that badly drawn, as comics go. I'm digging back to 2003 for the controversial "social conservative" plots.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:15 PM
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remember, this is someone who loves Stover at Yale.

How could one possibly forget?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:17 PM
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I bet you like Frank Merriwell, too. Honky.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:17 PM
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Maybe you want to upload the original scan and link to it so that people can actually tell what the hell the comic is, Labbsy?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:21 PM
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Yes, Labs, I will violate him for you on Saturday.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:25 PM
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Isn't Labbsy's point that it doesn't matter? I thought the breakoff in the last panel was perfectly fine, as the rest of the comic was so incredibly boring anyway.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:25 PM
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Boring? What about their riveting discussion of infanticide?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:33 PM
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Wikipedia tells me that this strip has been authored by, like, thirty goddam people.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:35 PM
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Somebody else reads the Comics Curmudgeon, I see

My first thought as well. So Labs, now that you're caught up, who the hell are the characters? I've never been able to tell them apart, aside from the announcer dude and Clambake.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:37 PM
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16: That's not from the strip you put in the post. Which is boring. Admit it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:41 PM
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Look, kids, you don't want to start fooling around with "Gil Thorp." It's a "gateway" comic that leads to harder stuff like "Nancy" and "Mary Worth." Just say no.


Posted by: Bill Clinton | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 5:48 PM
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Wikipedia tells me that this strip has been authored by, like, thirty goddam people.

Pricks, every one of them.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 6:09 PM
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Mark Trail, motherfucker!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 6:49 PM
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22: watch out, birds!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 6:52 PM
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I fucking rule, bitches.


Posted by: Bazooka Joe | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 6:58 PM
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My life needs direction. Maybe I'll go back and read The Phantom from the beginning.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 8:18 PM
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"In a medium that is at least partially built around visual communication, how is it that something as stunningly badly drawn as Gil Thorp achieves even modest success?"

Also, why are Gil Thorp's characters' heads permanently at a 30 degree angle?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 9:09 PM
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Global warming.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 5-07 9:13 PM
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9 (1): Have you seen its competition lately?

Newspaper comic strips haven't been based on quality art in my lifetime. They've been based mostly on appeals to nostalgia (Dagwood Bumstead, for the first of dozens of examples; get thee to the Comics Curmudgeon!), followed closely by saccharine shlock (Family Circus) and using clip art to prop up one-liners (Garfield). I'm tempted to offer a defense of Zits and Fox Trot, and I guess there could be other non-stupid ones out there which my local papers don't carry, but on the whole, Calvin and Hobbes and Bloom County were the end of an era.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 07- 6-07 7:16 AM
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Anyone here familiar with the amazing article "How to Read Nancy?"

I wondered about Mark Trail too, and whether strips normally printed away from the comics page live in a different ecology.

Also, while like some of the commenters here I've long noted the peculiarities of this strip in particular, my understanding would be enormously enhanced if I'd ever met or read something by anybody who ever actually read this strip straight, without irony or whatever.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 07- 6-07 7:50 AM
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29: A quick glance at the first page of results for a Googlin' of "why I love Gil Thorp" suggests that the set of people who read it straight approaches zero. I could be wrong, though; 'twas but a glance.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 07- 6-07 9:41 AM
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So surprisingly enough, the art in Gil Thorp used to be pretty awesome.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 6-07 2:21 PM
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Also note that the first plot line criticizes car-dependence.

Damn, why do the vintage strips have to be so small?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 07- 6-07 2:30 PM
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Gil Thorp: not a feminist.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 6-07 4:40 PM
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