Re: Summer Miscellany

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I'm buying this for my ever-more-scenesterish sister.


Posted by: Tarrou | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 5:39 PM
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Weezer's first album is on the short list of all-time greats.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 5:43 PM
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That Venn diagram doesn't make very much sense.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 5:48 PM
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It makes a little more sense if you ignore the implicature of "used to."


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 5:56 PM
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No, it makes even less sense then, because then the (much larger) "Bands I Like" section could only mean "Bands I Just Started Liking This Moment".

I also don't see why I should accept that not liking a band anymore is just an implicature of "I used to like that band". Someone is going to mosey along and point out that one can "cancel" the supposed implicature by saying "I used to like that band; in fact, I still do", but doesn't convince me. I am committed to a radical skepticism about this implicature stuff.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:00 PM
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Weezer's first album is on the short list of all-time greats.

??? How long is this short list? It is catchy, but there are a whole lot of albums I would but ahead of it on a list of "all-time" greats.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:08 PM
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We may be witnessing NickS's first introduction to the phenomena of divergent tastes and hyperbole.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:10 PM
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I also don't see why I should accept that not liking a band anymore is just an implicature of "I used to like that band".

So what is it? An entailment?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:10 PM
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Generously, I would interpret the Venn diagram as meaning "the only overlap in our musical tastes is music that you like and I am in the process of getting tired of."

That leaves unstated the nature of a causal relationship. Is it just that the person in question automatically starts getting tired of music when the other person picks it up, or is it that the other person is both behind the curve and has the precise mixture of good and bad taste to always get into bands that have a surface appeal, but no lasting substance, 6 months after they get big.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:12 PM
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Redefining the "music I like" circle as "music I have ever liked" might work to salvage some sense from the thing.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:14 PM
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b-wo, probably best to just have a dash of pepper so as to accent the cantaloupe without overwhelming it.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:17 PM
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I'll add that myself with magic marker after buying the shirt; I wouldn't want philosophy majors to veer off the road in a fit of incomprehension after seeing my sister in it.


Posted by: Tarrou | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:18 PM
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We may be witnessing NickS's first introduction to the phenomena of divergent tastes and hyperbole.

I protest the maneuver of using an over literal reading of my comment to accuse me of being overly literal.

But, we all have our schticks. Emerson has his no-relationship policy, I have my belief that more great pop music was produced in the 70s than in any subsequent decade.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:22 PM
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6: it deserves to be on the top-tier list, however long that is. These are those albums of such excellence that ordinal ranking is not possible; none among them can be said to be greater or lesser than the others.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:23 PM
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there's this, Tarrou, but it's not very nice, really. Actually, it's more for cranky grannies than scenesters, I suppose.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 6:27 PM
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Ben, you like Weezer? I am completely crushed.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 7:18 PM
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Come now, you're overlooking a to-the-point classic.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 7:30 PM
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I was just posting today about "No One Else" on my blog that does not exist anymore. Verdict: Sucky. Catchy tune, though.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 7:34 PM
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Hey NickS, speaking of great pop music, are you still without means of listening to music directly from your computer?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 7:43 PM
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I had no trouble parsing the venn diagram, because I automatically dropped the implicature, and read the "music I like" circle tenselessly. Parts of the circle can then be read in any tense that you need them to "bands I am tiring of" "bands that I've only started liking recently."

The diagram communicated its meaning effectively to the desired audience, therefore it makes sense.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 7:48 PM
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20: moral relativist.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 7:50 PM
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21: Linguistic pragmatist. (I think. I'm not sure I'm qualified to do "real philosophy" ever since I started all this practical ethics stuff.)


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 8:03 PM
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heh, theres definatly dozens, hudreds, of better albums. pinkerton could put a good run in for top 100 albums depending on how one's mood is.

'no one else' is great though. i was just listening to the acoustic version of it last weekend and appriciating how great the lyrics are.

they have some pretty great b-sides too. Suzanne, i just threw out the love of my dreams. i used to like 'american girl' but i'm not sure it holds up quite so well.

I'd also like to put a good word in for the 'green' album. terrible replay value but pretty fun.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 9:43 PM
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(I think. I'm not sure I'm qualified to do "real philosophy" ever since I started all this practical ethics stuff.)

I am, somehow?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 9:46 PM
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Are you still without means of listening to music directly from your computer?

That is still true, though it may not be for long. I plan to replace my home computer soon, and it seems petty to go out of my way to continue to avoid having sound.

I am quite capable of being petty, but most likely I will have sound at that point.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07- 9-07 10:21 PM
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Weezer's first album is still quite catchy. But I'm afraid its reputation was indelibly stained by its tawdry association with Windows 95.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 6:53 AM
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I am unfamiliar with whatever is being referenced in 26. I may not want to be enlightened.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 8:07 AM
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27 -- it was an operating system that was briefly popular in the mid-90's, sort of a little sister to NT, that mimicked 32-bit computing by thunking. I'm not quite remembering, you may have been able to actually run some 32-bit applications natively.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 8:24 AM
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Assuming 28 was a joke?


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 8:33 AM
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Yah.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 8:36 AM
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I actually was totally in awe of seeing music vidoes on the computer with that weezer/windows 95 disc.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 9:07 AM
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"Pinkerton" simply crushes the first album (and the rest of the Weezer canon).


Posted by: John I | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 2:26 PM
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Pinkerton is (along with Doolittle) the album that absolutely made my year when I bought them both, randomly. So, so good.


Posted by: Counterfly | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 5:24 PM
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No.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 5:28 PM
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I thought the reference was to the album cover being the same color as the Blue Screen of Death.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 5:32 PM
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Doolittle is pretty awesome. To buy it knowing nothing about it is quite the find.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 7:06 PM
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28: Actually, Win95 ran 32-bit apps natively and reasonably well; it was the 16-bit Windows API that was emulated.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 07-10-07 7:17 PM
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