Re: Poker players have all the fun

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That's awesome.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 11:40 AM
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I don't understand -- Steve Albini doesn't like the band he once referred to in print as "Weiners [sic, although probably not a subtle Simpsons reference] in suits"?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 11:50 AM
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Q: Vinyl or digital?

A: Neither. I go straight for the vagina. You find them on women.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 11:51 AM
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I'm trying to remember the name of the zine that got Steve Albini to give an interview all about food. (It included his recipe for aioli, I think.) I'm always a little nervous that I will meet him -- not impossible, since he's a friend of a friend -- and he will beat me up and take my lunch money scorn me because I'm a vegetarian.

Aha! Gourmandizer!


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 11:56 AM
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I didn't have the patience to find out what the Urge Overkill beef was - all I read was that they didn't know how to play their instruments well and that they sucked in concert. Was there more?


Posted by: Moira | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 11:59 AM
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Hey, Gourmandizer was written by a very close high school friend of mine and Froz's! I've linked to his anti-depressant reviews here previously.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 11:59 AM
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He's right about Dave Grohl -- hands down, one of the most talented drummers I've ever known.

When I was a teenager in Northern Virginia, I used to hang around Grohl's old band, Scream. I had a decent little Tascam 4-track recording setup, and they'd have me drag it to their practice house to make cheap demos. I still have the recordings.

To record Grohl, all I had to do was hang a microphone off the ceiling, right above his drum set. Sounded awesome. Only had to worry about him hitting it, because he flung his arms around exactly like "Animal" from the Muppets.


Posted by: A. Chandler Moisen | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 12:06 PM
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"Influences?"

"Yer man Animal, from the Muppets."


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 12:09 PM
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Fuck, I loved Scream. One of the punk rock experiences I remember most fondly was seeing them at the Hung Jury Pub, near the GW campus, in a room that was packed to the gills but moving constantly. One of the first songs was "fucked without a kiss" and I just went limp and let the crowd buffet me around.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 12:30 PM
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wow, thanks. I didn't know shellac had a new one out, and had never heard of Washington Philips. When will online backgammon gambling take off?


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 12:34 PM
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Charming man, Mr. Albini. Reader asks if he's married, Albini says "you gay or something?" and it goes from there:

[Reader:] Not gay. Chicks listen to good music sometimes, too, you know.

[Albini:] Not straight ones in my experience, no they don't. You are either a lesbian, a dude, or you don't really like good music. This is a fact proven with science and charts.

Start picking which of the 3 applies to you, Previously Straight-Female Unfogged Folk.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 12:58 PM
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Number 3, here.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 12:59 PM
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Number 2. Although, by Albini's standards, probably 3 as well.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:11 PM
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2: I didn't know about that.

I only read the first five or so pages and I gotta wonder who Tatsuya Yoshida has to blow to get Albini, who I'm pretty sure engineered some Ruins albums, to list him among the good drummers.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:15 PM
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"Fuck, I loved Scream. One of the punk rock experiences I remember most fondly was seeing them at the Hung Jury Pub, near the GW campus, in a room that was packed to the gills but moving constantly"

Those were the days. I haven't spent a great deal of time around DC in recent years, but it's hard to imagine that the music scene there now approaches anything like what it was from the late 70s to the early 90s.


Posted by: A. Chandler Moisen | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:19 PM
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That Gourmandizer interview is great.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:20 PM
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11: Uggh

So in which of those categories would Steve Albini place Kim Deal? Presumably the fact that she makes good music would exclude her from category 3.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:21 PM
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I suspect that Albini probably enjoys sounding like a misogynist asshole much more than he *is* a misogynist asshole, but the distinction doesn't always seem important.

Speaking of Kim Deal, I found it remarkable that he singled out Title TK as an album whose production went well. I mean, not that it didn't, but not even this Kim Deal fan could find much to love there.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:31 PM
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Yeah, the District's music scene isn't anywhere near as large or as vital, but there's enough to see, I guess.

Rapeman is one of my favorite band names of all time. Maybe second only to John Cougar Concentration Camp.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:37 PM
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Number 2. But by Albini's standards, possibly 1 and probably 3 as well.

I'm vaguely remembering some lengthy correspondence feud between Albini and--I dunno--the Chicago Reader or some 'zine. I can't find it now, but it was funny and typically Albinian.

This surprises me: "Most recently, I had my mind blown by Joanna Newsom's playing on the harp. She is a wonder on that thing." She strikes me as a little precious, I wouldn't have guessed she'd be Albini's cup of twee.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:41 PM
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His treatment of the chica whose questions he never seems to have bothered answering was very Urge Overkill. It's a fascinating thread otherwise, though; I like that he name-checks The Cape May from my hometown.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:42 PM
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I'm vaguely remembering some lengthy correspondence feud between Albini and--I dunno--the Chicago Reader or some 'zine. I can't find it now

Here.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:47 PM
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I can't believe that 20 is the first combination of "joanna newsome" and "cup of twee," but Google says it is. (Actually, Google doesn't even know about it yet. Faster spiders, dammit!)


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:50 PM
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You spelled "newsom" wrong.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:52 PM
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So is "Urge Overkill" the antonym of "wizard cocksucker"?

Can my comments here get any more fucking meta?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:52 PM
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No, I pasted wrong. None of those links are actually calling her twee; they're calling other things twee.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:53 PM
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25: So is "Urge Overkill" the antonym of "wizard cocksucker"?

And apparently, according to Albini, could also denote "Weiners in suits playing frat party rock." So applicable to anyone acting like said weiners.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 1:55 PM
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I like Oingo Boingo.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 2:01 PM
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OK, I couldn't remember anything about Urge Overkill, so YouTube. I remember this song - decent enough - but the video is execrable.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 2:02 PM
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I like Danny Elfman. Oingo Boingo I can take or leave.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 2:02 PM
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great link. thanks.

Albini is hilarious on that thread.

on liking what he's recording:
"While the recording is underway, I'm like a gynecologist, and it would be inappropriate for me to be getting turned-on by the vagina I'm working on at the moment. I need to have a different relationship with the vagina."

awesome


Posted by: cleek | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 2:06 PM
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I just noticed this comment by Albini which I appreciate:

"I don't use computers to make records. I use tape machines, like nature intended."


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 2:07 PM
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#22. Ah! That's it! Gracias. "Weiners in suits playing frat party rock" sound like fun, I always thought.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 2:09 PM
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Music-hating lesbian here. So much so that I read the first page of the link, though "meh," and didn't bother reading anything else.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 2:23 PM
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And right in the middle of reading that thread, Big Black's "Kitty Empire" came up on my Personal Music Device.

(18.1's correct, and Albini really hates all sorts of humans, not just women.)


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 2:50 PM
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I suspect that both the misogyny and the misanthropy are poses. Really he's as gentle as a lamb.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 4:29 PM
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Albini really hates all sorts of humans, not just women

Ah, well, then no biggie.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 4:42 PM
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Steve Albini: overrated like a fox.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 4:54 PM
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Albini deserves a spot on Klosterman's most-accurately-rated list. Pretty much as many people know about him as should know about him.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 5:08 PM
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Albani is actually misogynist. I don't see how people can think he is just pretending.

He also doesn't think too highly about the improv music scene in chicago:

What I am suffering is more fatigue from an established improv scene in Chicago that has a fairly set demeanor. If you're a regular at these shows, you'll understand when I say that there aren't a lot of surprises, despite everything being supposedly "free."


Posted by: joeo | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 5:22 PM
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Also, his [url=http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=11034555&page=0&fpart=36&vc=1]rant about "Private Dancer"[/url] is pretty priceless. (As is the catty exchange with someone named "kepsey" down the page.)


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 5:35 PM
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WTF am I doing.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 5:36 PM
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I saw Big Black play live in 1988 (I had never heard of them before that) and it did something to my brain that was permanent. Steve Albini is twenty different kinds of an asshole, but I always pay attention when he talks.


Posted by: ff | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 6:29 PM
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36: Yeah, the writer of "Kerosene" and "Jordan Minnesota" loves all humanity.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 6:36 PM
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44: A pose, I'm telling ya. There's a secret room at Electrical Studios that is full of plush teddy bears and daisies. Steve goes there when he feels like he needs to be "the real Steve"


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 6:52 PM
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Well, I guess they know
I'm not no company man
But I can pull on a rope,
I can kill a cow
FAST AS ANY OTHER FUCKER CAN


Posted by: Cables | Link to this comment | 07-12-07 8:22 PM
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While prepping for Thanksgiving dinner a couple years ago, I, my wife, and a friend were were listening to Big Black. Friend was buttering the interior of the turkey, well past wrist-deep. I'm not sure who first realized that the song playing was "Fists Of Love".


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 07-13-07 12:16 PM
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Rapeman's cover of ZZ Top's "Just Got Paid" is a thing of surpassing beauty and, for me, atones for whatever assholishness Mr. Albini chooses to indulge.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-13-07 12:23 PM
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"I saw Big Black play live in 1988 (I had never heard of them before that) and it did something to my brain that was permanent."

I saw Big Black at the 9:30 Club at some point in the mid-80s. It was a great show, no doubt. But the most lasting impact was due to the fact that I lost my glasses in the slam pit.


Posted by: A. Chandler Moisen | Link to this comment | 07-13-07 12:29 PM
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[Albini ] is actually misogynist.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 07-13-07 5:36 PM
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Seems that the identification of Albini as "actually" misogynist is supposed, by the author of that essay, to be like the identification of Laibach as "actually" totalitarian.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-13-07 5:46 PM
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50: That piece is unreadable.


Posted by: A. Chandler Moisen | Link to this comment | 07-13-07 10:37 PM
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This has got to be the kindest, gentlest version of Steve Albini I've ever read.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 07-14-07 12:11 AM
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51: Laibach presents authority. Laibach must be obeyed. The Laibach consciousness will not be polluted. MINISTRY MINISTRY MINISTRY AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

(end transmission)


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-14-07 4:26 AM
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That Onion interview is brilliant.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-14-07 8:54 AM
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And it's a bit sad that the piece in 50 appears to be un-ironic.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-14-07 8:58 AM
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56: I thought that pointing out that Albini is non-Lutheran was a bit gratuitous.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-14-07 9:04 AM
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I was kind of on board with that part. Like, "yeah, I hate Lutheran pretentions too, right on." But he didn't really build on the theme.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-14-07 9:18 AM
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Is there scuttlebutt about Lutheran record producers going around?

Maybe the Swedes. They do Britney Spears and like that, you know.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-14-07 9:22 AM
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