Re: House Style

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I can't believe you screwed up house style in the house style post.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:26 PM
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Did not, you're senile, no takebacks, INFINITY!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:27 PM
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Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:28 PM
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I'm not sure, however, that I've used "takebacks" correctly.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:28 PM
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If it's within twenty comments or so, just a number isn't so bad.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:29 PM
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I agree with 5


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:30 PM
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2:

Shouldn't you blockquote that?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:30 PM
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I'd say less than twenty--say 10--but surely the idea is recognized and acceptable.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:31 PM
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If it's within twenty comments or so, just a number isn't so bad.

Once again, LB is trying to kill the blog. Twenty comments requires scrolling. Maybe within five comments is ok, but why leave it up to these crazy people's discretion?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:32 PM
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test
test 2


Posted by: tester | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:33 PM
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6 to 5


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:33 PM
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I've faithfully adhered to house style ever since I intuited what it was -- not easy, given all the authority-hating, clarity-confounding free spirits around here -- but it seems that an exception to the numerical citation rule should be made for adjacent, or close-to-adjacent, comments. Please advise.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:33 PM
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How do you do block quotes?


Posted by: tester | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:33 PM
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Is the post itself internal or external? That is, which is preferred:

(1)
a dreck

I'm wondering about the Yiddish too.

or

(2)

a dreck

I'm wondering about the Yiddish too.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:34 PM
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I don't even know how to blockquote. But I've never read anything other than Unfogged, so it doesn't come up much.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:34 PM
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What if you use quotation marks because you're too lazy to italicize? What if you are a beloved and longstanding community member?


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:34 PM
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Pwned. I submit to LB's authority.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:35 PM
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LB has a gigantic index finger which, with her scroll wheel, makes twenty comments the work of a moment. She may not know how difficult it can be for those of us who are normally configured.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:35 PM
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Dernit! I'm gonna have to learn how to do the html thing for italics now.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:35 PM
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I don't even know how to blockquote. But I've never read anything other than Unfogged, so it doesn't come up much.

pwned by

How do you do block quotes?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:35 PM
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Is the post itself internal or external?

I've often treated it as an innie, but on review, such behavior qualifies as dreck. The post is an outie.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:35 PM
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I contend that italicizing the comment being responded to as well as including its number is preferable.

For, like, context if the reader desires it.

BWTFDIK


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:36 PM
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<blockquote>blockquoted text</blockquote>


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:36 PM
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Don't be a dreck, italicize.

That doesn't rhyme.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:36 PM
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18: So I do.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:37 PM
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To blockquote "stuff": <blockquote>stuff</blockquote>


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:37 PM
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It may be worthwhile to lay down some rules for pwnage, too.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:37 PM
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You should hate people, but especially Ogged.

Such fascists, you are.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:37 PM
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18: So I do.

I had to scroll. You're banned.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:38 PM
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Man, serious prescriptive/descriptive split. During my mostly-lurking period, I took number-references as hegemonic. After all, there's all that silly "39 to 38" re-directing.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:39 PM
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Dernit! I'm gonna have to learn how to do the html thing for italics now.

minus

What if you use quotation marks because you're too lazy to italicize? What if you are a beloved and longstanding community member?

equals

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:39 PM
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Next you're going to outlaw comment-substitutions and "A -> B"-style redirects. And what about analogies?

Such total bullshit.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:39 PM
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Next you're going to outlaw comment-substitutions and "A -> B"-style redirects. And what about analogies?

Such total bullshit.

divided by

Did not, you're senile, no takebacks, INFINITY!

equals

What if you use quotation marks because you're too lazy to italicize? What if you are a beloved and longstanding community member?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:41 PM
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I favor comment numbers combined with italicization, thusly:

3: Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

This is better than italicization alone because it allows the reader to easily find the quoted text and find out who wrote it and the context in which it was written.

Shorter this comment: 22 gets it exactly right.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:41 PM
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31: so you're saying if I can use quotes rather than italics, but only if I am a beloved and longstanding member of the community, who uses Yiddish correctly?

Oy.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:43 PM
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Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

to the power

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

divided by

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

squared, is

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:43 PM
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"What if you use quotation marks because you're too lazy to italicize? "

What if you don't know how to italicize?

Maybe, poor pitiful peep, you should not comment and try to do your job instead............


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:44 PM
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18: So I do.

From scrolling! From scrolling!


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:44 PM
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You should hate people, but especially Ogged.

You should hate people, but especially Ogged.

You should hate people, but especially Ogged.

Compare, contrast, discuss.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:44 PM
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Italics? Block quotes? Yiddish?

It's all Persian to me.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:44 PM
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I
agree
with
ogged.

Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:45 PM
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I've always thought that comment threads should become more complex, not less.

Obfuscation is the soul of wit. Unfogged is genius because it is not unfoggy.

Otherwise, what's the point? Eventually, you spend your time feeding trolls.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:45 PM
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In fact, I don't think anyone should comment without first copying all previous comments into the box for easy referral. Like an e-mail forward.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:45 PM
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Two ways to italicize: <i>italicized text</i> or <em>italicized text</em>


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:46 PM
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9: why does ogged not understand our folkways?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:46 PM
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What if you don't know how to italicize?

Like <i>this</i>.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:46 PM
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What if you quote something that was italicized or blockquoted in the original?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:47 PM
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E-mail forwarding is a great analogy. Someone should start a blog where the posts are just the emails that they have forwarded to them by the older and more-earnest members of their extended family. This would be a work of enduring genius.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:47 PM
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I'm not adding a lot of value here.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:48 PM
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As always, Heebie is right.

I was all wrong about carp.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:48 PM
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36 to 36.

LAWLZ


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:49 PM
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48: I think they did. It's called snopes.com.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:49 PM
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What if you quote something that was italicized or blockquoted in the original?

You keep the blockquote and unitalicize whatever was italicized in what you're quoting. So

Emerson is such a troll.

Becomes

Emerson is such a troll

Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:50 PM
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Why does Heebie Geebie have such a big foot?
From counting! From counting!
(Heebie is actually a pony.)


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:50 PM
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Great idea. Can we start top-posting too?

In fact, I don't think anyone should comment without first copying all previous comments into the box for easy referral. Like an e-mail forward.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:50 PM
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What would be even more terrific is if we started using the post numbering system to refer to other threads, so I could say, e.g. 4744.61! and everyone would laugh, and laugh.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:51 PM
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In fact, I don't think anyone should comment without first copying all previous comments into the box for easy referral. Like an e-mail forward


Posted by: Christopher Columbus | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:52 PM
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As always, Heebie is right.

I was all wrong about carp.

Oh no! Did you dine on some disagreeable carp last night?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:52 PM
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Neat, how'd I do that?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:53 PM
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Can we! Can we! I love it. Sold.

Great idea. Can we start top-posting too?

In fact, I don't think anyone should comment without first copying all previous comments into the box for easy referral. Like an e-mail forward.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:53 PM
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Can we start top-posting too?

Reverse, and just turn it into usenet.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:53 PM
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60: Please don't do that.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:55 PM
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61: We're going to need bigger .sigs.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:55 PM
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Now who's drinking haterade? Mm-hmm.

60: Please don't do that.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:56 PM
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I know we're all OLD SKEWL here, but I think it would mesh pretty well with current folkways if we could type [[40]] Wiki-style, which then made the interface pop up the linked comment on mouseover.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:56 PM
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>> Can we start top-posting too?

>Reverse, and just turn it into usenet.

ur doin it wrong


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:57 PM
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How do you get the carrots to show up again?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:57 PM
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Reverse, and just turn it into usenet.

Green Card Lottery 1994 May Be The Last One!
THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED.
The Green Card Lottery is a completely legal program giving away a certain annual allotment of Green Cards to persons born in certain countries. The lottery program was scheduled to continue on a permanent basis. However, recently, Senator Alan J Simpson introduced a bill into the U. S. Congress which could end any future lotteries. THE 1994 LOTTERY IS SCHEDULED TO TAKE PLACE SOON, BUT IT MAY BE THE VERY LAST ONE.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:58 PM
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Intestinal fortitude, that's how.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:58 PM
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Uh, I forget the exact escape sequences to escape the escape sequences, but:

< - an ampersand followed directly by lt, and ended with a colon, without spaces.
> - the same, with gt instead of lt.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 2:59 PM
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Well, that and regular watering.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:00 PM
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Oy. I blame Standpipe.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:00 PM
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WHAT IS THE HOUSE STYLE RE CAPITALIZATIONS

ALSO, TO 53 I HATE HOW WHEN SOMETHING IS ENTIRELY IN ITALICS YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PUT IT IN REGULAR TEXT TO IMPLY THAT IT IS IN EVEN MORE ITALICS. IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAT WHEN YOU QUOTE SOMETHING THAT CONTAINED ITALICS, YOU CONVERT THE ORIGINAL ITALICS TO BOLDS.


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:02 PM
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72:6818.4.2


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:02 PM
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How much do I love that this deteriorated into the least readable thread ever. How much indeed.

Spew gibberish, everyone, spew like Spewy from Get A Life. And make obscure references.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:02 PM
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70: "colon" s/b "semi-colon"


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:03 PM
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That'll learn ogged to tell us what to do.


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:03 PM
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Wocka-wocka! Nrrt nrrt nrrt! Halamala


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:04 PM
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Someone should start a blog where the posts are just the emails that they have forwarded to them by the older and more-earnest members of their extended family. This would be a work of enduring genius.

Armsmasher + the Governess = genius.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:04 PM
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[[75]] And make obscure references.

lol that ones on fire


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:05 PM
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75:

Dialog from a Tonight Show... Johnny Carson...His guest was Lee Marvin.
Johnny said..."Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima...and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."
And you know how Lee was..."Yeah, yeah...I got shot square in the ass and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys gettin' shot hauling you down. But Johnny at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew...We both got the Cross the same day but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. The dumb bastard actually stood up on Red Beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. That Sgt. and I have been life long friends...When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sgt. and he lit a smoke and passed it to me lying on my belly on the litter..."Where'd they get you Lee?"...."Well Bob...if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse."..... "Johnny, I'm not lying...Sgt. Keeshan was the bravest man I ever Knew - Bob Keeshan....
You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:05 PM
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The true spirit of Unfogged, revealed: the one time ogged is actually right, and we all jump on him anyway.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:05 PM
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73: WHAT IS THE HOUSE STYLE RE CAPITALIZATIONS

The rule is that only Opinionated Grandma is allowed to comment in all caps. On accounta she can't hear so well.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:05 PM
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Shorter thread:

Ogged: I'm going to make another ineffectual attempt to lay down rules.
Everyone else: Nitpick, nitpick, cry, nitpick.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:06 PM
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79 should be moved to Standpipe's blog, right? Right?


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:06 PM
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48: »»»»»


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:07 PM
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As always, Heebie is right.

I was all wrong about carp.

Oh no! Did you dine on some disagreeable carp last night?

I'm just making my amends to people I've criticized in the past. 200 million Harry Potter fans have surrounded my house.

(Note that the italicized two lines of the original post are now unmarked. Where's w-lfs-n.)


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:07 PM
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Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

to the power

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

divided by

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

squared, is

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

You forgot to subtract the language you first thought of.



Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:09 PM
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79.2:3550.1.1


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:09 PM
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make obscure references.

True indeed, Cogswell Cogs, and Sprockets at Spacely's.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:10 PM
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Well, this is illustrative!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:10 PM
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89: Blogger can have that effect on unsuspecting browsers.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:11 PM
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91: Well, this is illustrative!

SEE WHAT I MEAN

MUCH NICER


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:12 PM
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92:4966.238


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:13 PM
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»»»»»

I'm proud to say that my mom is well-represented on that blog.


Posted by: Tom | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:13 PM
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I was certain SB's 46:

What if you don't know how to italicize?
Like this.

was intentional.

And no, I have no idea how to make the html tags show up instead of being active.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:14 PM
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Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

to the power

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

divided by

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

squared, is

Also, you're using Yiddish incorrectly.

You forgot to subtract the language you first thought of.

Hmm, did I? Or did I fool you with my lightning-quick sleight-of-hand, and you just failed to see me subtract the language I first thought of? I thought so.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:14 PM
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Also, I bet this thread is cementing Ogged's conspicuous absence from the meet-up this Sunday.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:16 PM
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I refuse to italics-quote if I have a reasonable expectation that my referent is within 3-5 comments. It screws with the flow of quick back-and-forths.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:17 PM
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I have no idea how to make the html tags show up instead of being active

Type

&lt;em&gt;

and you get

<em>


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:18 PM
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94: Hate it for you. I'm IE all the way over here.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:19 PM
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It's just a naive domestic house style, but I think you'll admire its presumption


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:22 PM
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98:4475.24 -> [1-97,99,7184.[this]]


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:22 PM
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103 : Now you're hurting my brain.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:28 PM
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21: I've often treated it as an innie, but on review, such behavior qualifies as dreck. The post is an outie.

Yes, but only after it's gone off-topic. While the thread remains on-topic, tread the original post like a comment.

Also, I'm obeying the rules as set forth in the post, but only because I'm too lazy to think of an original-looking way not to. Don't think I'm going to make a habit of this.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:30 PM
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74, 89, 94, 103: We no longer need to type original comments. Clearly Unfogged has finally become large enough to nearly become a realization of the Borgesian library of possible comments, complaints, and semi-witty non-sequitors. A "Library of Babble", if you will.

Oh shit, I'm gonna go whip myself just for typing that last bit.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:31 PM
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Dear Tweety:

Dreck, babe, dreck.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:31 PM
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108 to 107.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:32 PM
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Also, I propose the [Post #].0 notation in order to refer to the original post or portions thereof, in order to avoid potential confusion with a reference to the entirety of the post & comments thread contents that may be implied by the bare reference to a given [Post #].


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:34 PM
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109:5516.19


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:36 PM
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This blog has used numerical comment references as well as italics for as long as I've been around, anyway. It's not that fucking difficult to hit "find" and then enter the fucking comment number to find the original.

But fine. You want longer comments complete with embedded text of previous comments? You'll get it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:36 PM
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"Library A a and Babble", become become bit Borgesian Clearly comments, comments. complaints, enough finally for go gonna has I'm if just large last library longer myself nearly need no non-sequitors. of of of Oh original possible realization semi-witty shit, that the to to type typing Unfogged We whip will. you


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:37 PM
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109:5016.23


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:38 PM
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110 -> [106,111.1]


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:38 PM
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I have no idea what 111 is referring to.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:39 PM
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83: and because she's nice enough to be so succinct all the time.

TEXT IN ALL CAPS IS PERFECTLY READABLE IF THERE'S NOT MUCH OF IT.

When it gets into long sentences and paragraphs, though, then it gets to be either somewhat hard to read text in all caps or very hard, especially if there are no damn paragraph breaks. but OG is very brief, in my admittedly limited experience, so she's readable.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:39 PM
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It's not that fucking difficult to hit "find" and then enter the fucking comment number to find the original.

But my fucking browser opens the fucking comment window in a weird fucking frame that doesn't allow for any fucking "find" feature.

Also, OPINIONATED GRANDMA has not authorized me to tell everyone that all-caps is her sig, and if anyone else does it, she will kick their fucking ass.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:43 PM
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118 to 117.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:43 PM
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117: here's a nickle kid, get a better browser.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:43 PM
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But my fucking browser opens the fucking comment window in a weird fucking frame that doesn't allow for any fucking "find" feature.

ctrl-f perhaps?


Posted by: opinionated grandma | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:44 PM
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117: No ctrl-F? Bummer.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:44 PM
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OWNED


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:45 PM
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Pwned. Twice.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:46 PM
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120: Impersonating OG will get you BANNED.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:46 PM
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Pwned while attempting to admit pwnage.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:46 PM
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123 ->123.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:48 PM
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127, 125 -> 126.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:49 PM
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I have no idea what 111 is referring to.

Crap, you're right. This house style thing is confusing. Here:

House Style Italicize the portion of the comment to which you're responding: I hate people, but especially men. Me too! Blockquote things pulled from external sources:
You should hate people, but especially men.
I agree! When you use only a number to refer to the comment to which you're responding, many people won't scroll up, and your comment won't make sense, so it'll be skipped, like so much dreck. Don't be a dreck, italicize.
This blog has used numerical comment references as well as italics for as long as I've been around, anyway. It's not that fucking difficult to hit "find" and then enter the fucking comment number to find the original. But fine. You want longer comments complete with embedded text of previous comments? You'll get it.

Of course, apparently html formatting within paragraphs destroys the paragraphing of the (block)quoted text, but I agree: communicating using these rules is much clearer than it was before.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:49 PM
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But my fucking browser opens the fucking comment window in a weird fucking frame that doesn't allow for any fucking "find" feature.

Is it my fucking fault that you use a stupid fucking browser? Fucking Firefox is fucking free. Fucker.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:50 PM
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Pile-on numerical pwnage.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:51 PM
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128.last - 1:5025.65


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:51 PM
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I was hoping this would become the thread in which we each make our favorite obscure reference devoid of any context. Oh well.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:52 PM
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Sheesh, now I'm annoying myself. CLEVER PLAN, OGGED!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:52 PM
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132: PETER LAKE LIVES!!!


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:55 PM
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132: and then the lighting of the lamps.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 3:58 PM
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What about the glowing monkey?


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:01 PM
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Well, you know, Mean Gene, CRYPTICMANIA IS ABOUT TO RUN WILD!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:03 PM
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What about the glowing monkey?

Actually, this is more of a golden monkey thread.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:05 PM
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I can't believe no one has mentioned my plugin to follow comment numbers to their original comment! Is no one using it besides me and Ben?


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:13 PM
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"follow" s/b "follow by clicking on".


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:14 PM
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What about the glowing monkey?

Just practicing.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:16 PM
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139, I've just installed it and am trying it out.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:30 PM
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I guess a thread on house style is as good a place as any to ask a question that's been plaguing me for months: Is OPINIONATED GRANDMA a person, or a persona that we're all allowed to use?


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in." (9) | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:30 PM
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Don't use grandmas. They are old, and deserving of our respect.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:32 PM
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IT'S NOT REALLY A PERSONA

JUST A WAY OF SAYING SILLY THINGS

IT STARTED OUT AS A PARODY OF A CERTAIN TYPE OF BLOG COMMENTER WHO USES CATCHPHRASES ALL THE TIME AND THINKS HE/SHE IS VERY CLEVER AND UNIQUE


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:35 PM
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But we're all allowed to use Fontana Labs.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:35 PM
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146: "allowed" s/b "required."


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:38 PM
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Is OPINIONATED GRANDMA a person, or a persona that we're all allowed to use?

I've been meaning to ask the same thing about "ogged."


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:41 PM
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Let's stop talking about Unfogged.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:43 PM
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Can the italicization rule be ignored when the quote is not yet unavailable?
158: I'm not so sure about /that/.

Personally, I've always found unfogged's comment-pointer-arithmetic charming. dereference(80): I believe it was called the "nectar of the Gods" by Chris Elliot.


Posted by: Phutatorius' Chestnut | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:47 PM
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I think that the numerical content referencing sets up a pleasing tension between the humanities nerds and the math queers.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:49 PM
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Consensus is: ogged was wrong.

otoh, that's just house style.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:50 PM
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145 sounds sad and disillusioned.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:51 PM
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Okay, once again I show my woeful lack of Unfogged history, but somehow I got the impression that OG was concocted specifically to mock a certain kind of DailyKos poster. Is that right, or am I basically on crack?


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 4:59 PM
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Let's stop talking about Unfogged.

Isn't this rule 1 of the house style?


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:03 PM
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Wait, that CTRL key does something besides reboot? Tell me more!


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:04 PM
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I see Esk, Catarl, and Pig-Up....


Posted by: Homer | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:06 PM
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I got the impression that OG was concocted specifically to mock a certain kind of DailyKos poster.

Unless I'm much mistaken, OG posts on other blogs (and predates Unfogged).


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:08 PM
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6, 10, 11, 19, 23, 29, 36, 44, 51
(Testing my random number generator)


Posted by: swampcracker | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:09 PM
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150
cool!


Posted by: swampcracker | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:12 PM
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160:150
cool!

Is 160 misquoting 150, or commenting on 150? So hard to tell!


Posted by: Epoch | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:20 PM
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161:160:150
cool!

Is 160 misquoting 150, or commenting on 150? So hard to tell!

Nevermind, I figured it out.


Posted by: Epoch | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:21 PM
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Wicked cool, pdf23ds.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:24 PM
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Yields the truth value of "Yields a falsehood when appended to its own italicization yields a falsehood when appended to its own italicization." when appended to its own blockquote
yields the truth value of "Yields a falsehood when appended to its own italicization yields a falsehood when appended to its own italicization." when appended to its own blockquote.
Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:27 PM
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165 to 164,


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:29 PM
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145: IT'S NOT REALLY A PERSONA JUST A WAY OF SAYING SILLY THINGS IT STARTED OUT AS A PARODY OF A CERTAIN TYPE OF BLOG COMMENTER WHO USES CATCHPHRASES ALL THE TIME AND THINKS HE/SHE IS VERY CLEVER AND UNIQUE

I am going to have to work very hard to forget that I read this. Don't destroy my illusions!


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:33 PM
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Unfogged is the number one google hit for "misuse of enormity" (no quotes in original), which I happened to be searching on because Chuck Scarborough on NBC news just used enormity to describe a steam pipe explosion.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 5:50 PM
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Yeah, this house rules stuff is wizard cocksucker.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:00 PM
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166

AND OF COURSE THE BASTARDS WANT TO DISTRACT US FROM THEIR WARMONGERING

GET THE FACTS

CHIMPEACH THE CHIMPEROR


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:11 PM
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139: I can't believe no one has mentioned my plugin to follow comment numbers to their original comment!

That's sexy as hell pdf23ds. It's also a solution to the problem with B's solution ("use Find") upthread: Even if you use find to jump right to the reference, you still have to keep in working memory where you left off and then go back there when you're done. With this, one can just right-click and select "back."


Posted by: JGO | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:12 PM
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If Ogged would enable the <blink> tag, we could indicate quoted text that way. Then the comments would be all pretty.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:17 PM
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And colors! Lots of colors!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:18 PM
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And what about <IMG>? These threads could use some animated GIFs? Speaking of which, since the content on this site is always changing, it should really have an "Under Construction" image on the main page. I've seen a really cute one where the guy with the shovel is animated so it looks like he's digging.


Posted by: JGO | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:22 PM
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And perhaps one day I'll be able to share one of my tickers with you all! Or my fairy avatar!

I really do hate people.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:24 PM
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Is there a way we can get this page listed as "Miscellaneous" in Yahoo? I already submitted it to Webcrawler and Lycos.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:25 PM
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175 ¬to 165


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:25 PM
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Oh please dont make this place avatar accessible.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:25 PM
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176 to 176.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:25 PM
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185 to 176.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:28 PM
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178: 176 to 176.

PWNED!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:29 PM
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I didn't even realize the right-click-back thing would work. Sweet. Nice, pdf23ds, and JGO, you are nice, too.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:30 PM
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I MISS THE DAYS OF REC.HOBBIES.UNFOGGED

IT WAS SO MUCH EASIER TO OSTRACIZE NEWBIES THEN. JUST POST THE FAQ AND KEEP 'EM AT ARMS LENGTH.


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:31 PM
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<ASCII Facepalm Man>


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:32 PM
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rec.pets.cats.unfogged.die.die.die


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:33 PM
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WHY ISN'T ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT THE POVERTY OF ANALYTIC PHILOSOPHY?

YOU'RE ALL READING HARRY POTTER BOOKS! AREN'T YOU? AREN'T YOU?


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:34 PM
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Grandma pwned by the redirect chain!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:36 PM
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rec.hobbies.cry.cry.masturbate.cry


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:36 PM
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No, wait, Sifu pwned by not being able to follow the goddamn redirect chain he helped create.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:36 PM
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THE WARLORD LIVES!


Posted by: Insert Ascii Map of Australia Here | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:42 PM
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I'm making my amends.

Carp are awful. Harry Potter is wonderful. Analytic philosophy is really quite excellent. So is neoclassical economics. So is pomo. So is academic bureaucracy. The South shall rise again. (It turns out that my medication level has been too low all this time. )


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:43 PM
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185:You did make me feel guilty about commenting instead of reading socialists.

(Duck and cover. I think that's Marx, but could be Proudhon or even Bakhunin)


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:44 PM
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191: Reminds me to check to see if there is any morning coffee left.

I hope no one expects me to take usage and style seriously.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:46 PM
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"Library A a and Babble", become become bit Borgesian Clearly comments, comments. complaints, enough finally for go gonna has I'm if just large last library longer myself nearly need no non-sequitors. of of of Oh original possible realization semi-witty shit, that the to to type typing Unfogged We whip will. you

I already did the markov chain thing, pal. (Previously mentioned, although that wasn't its first appearance. I can't find its original appearance anymore, though.)


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:50 PM
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EMERSON TOTALLY ROCKS!

EVERYBODY SHOULD BUY HIS BOOK!

AND HARRY POTTER (IF YOU LIKE THAT SORT OF THING)!


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 6:53 PM
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Sucker. Neoclassical economics sucks.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:00 PM
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Opinionated Grandma speaks in the voice of the robot from Ok Computer in the warmest nook of my mind.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:09 PM
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George W. Bush isn't really that bad.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:10 PM
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I liked Emerson better back when his job was hating on me.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:15 PM
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And colors! Lots of colors

Have I ever mentioned how elegantly designed this website is?


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:17 PM
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I have something I'd like to share with you all. Something that changed my life, and can change yours too.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:18 PM
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STOP POUTING, EMERSON


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:19 PM
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Emerson, relationships, any thoughts?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:20 PM
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Freedom is only possible within the bonds of love.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:23 PM
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It's also a solution to the problem with B's solution ("use Find") upthread: Even if you use find to jump right to the reference, you still have to keep in working memory where you left off and then go back there when you're done. With this, one can just right-click and select "back."

Um, all you have to do is keep the find window open (if you're using FF like a sane human being, the toolbar stays RIGHT THERE) and hit "find [comment#]" next" instead of "find previous."

Seriously, people. Even a stupid humanities bitch can figure this out.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:23 PM
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Props to the bitch for figuring something out.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:25 PM
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When you use only a number to refer to the comment to which you're responding, many people won't scroll up

Particularly those people who don't know how to use the "find" or "goto" functions on their browsers.

In an unrelated matter: for fuck's sake, OG, it was extra weird for you to come out of character. Let's not have any more of that.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:25 PM
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204: dammit. pwned.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:26 PM
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Hey, cerebrocrat's back! How'd that "big plan" in midtown that you said would get "really steamy" go?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:26 PM
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How do you type the html characters for how to italicize or bold something without having them accomplish their goal of formatting the text? What do you type to show what you're doing?

Comment 23 is an example of what I'm talking about. (If I were to copy it and italicize it, I think that the formatting would change once I tried to post it.)


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:30 PM
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How do you type the html characters for how to italicize or bold something without having them accomplish their goal of formatting the text? What do you type to show what you're doing?

You use HTML escape codes instead of the tags themselves.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:33 PM
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205: Wanna teach me how to drive, grandpa?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:34 PM
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See 100, BG.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:36 PM
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If you haven't already done as LR said.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 7:37 PM
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The South shall rise again.

So shall Billy Joel, the accountant.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 8:06 PM
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209:

&amp; displays an ampersand sign.

So, if you type:

&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;

Then people see:

&lt;i&gt;

Which of course means that you can teach them how to teach other people how to write:

<i>


Posted by: Epoch | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 8:42 PM
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I love every one of you.


Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 07-18-07 10:03 PM
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Of course, according to the latest edition of Strunk & White's The Elements of Blogospheric Style, the correct way to quote the poster or another commenter in the thread is to use both italics and quotation marks:

"I hate people, but especially men."

The widespread willingness in the interwebs to drop the quotation marks means that a lot of folks are headed to hell after they die. Don't fuck with Strunk & White if you want a happy afterlife.


Posted by: Petey | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 12:25 AM
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206: Goto considered harmful.

Also, in general, 25 or 6 to 4.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 12:54 AM
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While I am eager to observe community norms and be accepted as part of the group, I also feel obligated to point out that Dr. B is totally right.


Posted by: Nbarnes | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:31 AM
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Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:18 AM
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25 or 6 to 4. Archaic reference.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:19 AM
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And..... Yes, now stuck in my head. Thanks John.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:26 AM
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Does anyone else think that Dijkstra's "Go To Statement Considered Harmful" is the most overrated essay in the history of computer science, or possibly the written word?


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:05 AM
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Walt Someguy considered harmful.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:09 AM
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49: I've always thought that comment threads should become more complex, not less.

I thought of your proposed system the moment I started reading this thread. I loved your system then and I still love it now.

OT: has cerebrocrat been eaten by bears (not the good kind) or have I just missed him? I've got to keep up with my queer peeps.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:14 AM
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Of course, 49 s/b 42. FUCK!


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:15 AM
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I keep misreading the title as House Of Style.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:25 AM
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I've got to keep up with my queer peeps.

I can never keep this straight. Is it the chicks or the bunnies that are queer?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:26 AM
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And which color?


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:28 AM
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207: Aaaaaaaand pwned anyway. I need a strict "no commenting before the 2nd caffeine" rule in my personal house style.

228: Both chicks and bunnies can be queer, apo. It's done by color. I'm not allowed to tell you which are which, though; you have to eat one to see if it likes it and discover for yourself.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:30 AM
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Both chicks and bunnies can be queer, apo.

Whew, that's a relief. I thought my peepdar had gone all haywire.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:34 AM
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All the peeps I've seen have been crammed together in a tiny box, yet I've never seen any baby peeps running around...I assume they're all gay.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:34 AM
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Love the new hovertext. I assume we have slol to thank for that.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:35 AM
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Perhaps they're just virtuous, heebie.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:35 AM
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I always just assumed they used birth control.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:35 AM
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233: ??? I see nothing new.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:36 AM
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234: It's not unheard of, you know.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:37 AM
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Perhaps they're just virtuous, heebie.

Being gay doesn't conflict with being virtuous, Apo.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:39 AM
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238: Obviously.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:40 AM
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Internet Explorer-using loozers always see the same hovertext, from dear old John Emerson. People who use Firefox (and, I assume, other browsers) see an ever-changing panoply of hovertexts. I don't really know why w-lfs-n set a static hovertext for IE; you'll have to take it up with him. Welcome to the Unfogged bureaucracy.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:44 AM
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Jesus, people. Use your Internet Explorer to download a real browser already.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:53 AM
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241: As if that were an option for me.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:55 AM
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At work, I mean.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:55 AM
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Are you locked out of installing software on your machine at work?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:57 AM
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244: But of course!


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:58 AM
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Bastards!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:00 AM
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"Software" S/B "pornography"".


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:03 AM
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246: Yeah, the man is really keeping me down.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:05 AM
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Shouldn't you be italicizing software? Scofflaw!


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:05 AM
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"Software" S/B "pornography"

But just soft-core.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:05 AM
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Yeah, the man is really keeping me down

But, but...you ARE the man (note deft application of house rules re italics)


Posted by: huh | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:13 AM
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I have the same problem as NCProsecutor. It was always an annoyance, but it really burns now that I know I'm being actively discriminated against.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:14 AM
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245: Portable Firefox can be run from a USB memory stick, without requiring installation.

Might work for you.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:17 AM
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Also, these house rules are complete bullshit. I may just stop referencing previous comments altogether: no comment numbers, no italics, no blockquotes. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out what the hell I'm talking about.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:17 AM
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254 -> 110.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:29 AM
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247,248: "down" s/b "flaccid."


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:30 AM
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Also, these house rules are complete bullshit. I may just stop referencing previous comments altogether: no comment numbers, no italics, no blockquotes. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out what the hell I'm talking about.

Dude, that's crazy talk.


Posted by: house rules | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:30 AM
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253: Holy shit. That is totally fucking awesome. Lemme give that a try.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:30 AM
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Also, in general, 25 or 6 to 4.

Indeed.

By the way, I had to use Yahoo to find that. It is apparently not the case that Hoohole hooholes itself.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:33 AM
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253: Works. Um, wow.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:37 AM
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Aren't you glad you can read the mouseover text?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:38 AM
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261: Okay, now that was kind of a letdown.

Hey, there's a spell check function! I guess that's cool.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:42 AM
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I don't really know why w-lfs-n set a static hovertext for IE; you'll have to take it up with him. Welcome to the Unfogged bureaucracy.

I didn't mean to set it just for IE. It's just that the thing I did? Only turns out to work on IE.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:50 AM
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If you remove it, will IE users get to enjoy the cavalcade of merriment and wit that Firefox users now do?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:52 AM
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Can you undo the thing you did? It "works" in IE, but that seems more like a bug than a feature.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:52 AM
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If you remove it, will IE users get to enjoy the cavalcade of merriment and wit that Firefox users now do?

Only if brain damage caused by extended IE use hasn't set in.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:55 AM
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We'll find out soon.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:55 AM
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New hovertext! My world is complete.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:57 AM
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What used to happen in IE is that one would see the new hovertext for a second and then the old Emerson one (re lump sum giving to Grice fund) would replace it. So to read any new one longer than a couple of words one had to keep refreshing the main page.


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:24 AM
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eaten by bears (not the good kind)
hahahaha

Aw, y'all missed me!

I was eaten by neuroscientists (away at a conference).


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:32 PM
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And since everyone's talking browsers, I'd just like to report back that my switch from Firefox to Safari has in the end been mostly positive (although I do like Firefox). The switch from Mail.app to Thunderbird, on the other hand, was aborted after a day.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:35 PM
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If you miss the F'Fox, you may enjoy "Bon Echo", which is a Firefox build specific to Mac computer processors. Not as sleek as Camino, but accepting of Firefox extensions.

I had same experience with T-Bird.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:49 PM
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Wow, I can't believe I missed this post. I've been pushing the use of quotes instead of number references here for ages.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 08-13-07 9:50 AM
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