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This should be illegal.

I'll say.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 9:40 PM
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Credit snob.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 9:47 PM
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Girl, it's time to reset that motherfucker.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 9:47 PM
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We have the last episode of Life on Mars, unwatched, on the TiVo. It ran a year ago.

Rah has the big Springsteen concert from the '04 election season on our TiVo.

I had the musical episode of Buffy on the TiVo for years and years.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 9:50 PM
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1: Blame Delaware, South Dakota, and Marquette v. First of Omaha, as I'm sure much of this crowd already does.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 10:02 PM
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The URL for the website is no longer in service.

Why would you know this?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 10:18 PM
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Presumably she checked.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 10:19 PM
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Isn't that more of a how than a why?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 10:20 PM
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Also, kids these days are growing up without ever having heard of 976 numbers.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 10:21 PM
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I checked the URL to see who on earth was still handing away money without a credit check in the middle of this worldwide credit/mortgage/loan meltdown. Apparently, not them anymore.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 10:24 PM
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Usury is a criminal offence here in Canada: the criminal interest rate is 60%/year.


Posted by: McKingford | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 10:35 PM
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i came in here to say Credit Snob.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 08-20-07 10:55 PM
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You mean the last episode of series 1 of Life on Mars? Presuming we are talking about the same series. Because series 2 only ran in March/April of this year.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:21 AM
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Also, re: 4/13 -- and we have the last 6 episodes of that on our PVR, too.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:22 AM
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kids these days are growing up without ever having heard of 976 numbers.

Some months ago, my 10-yr-old was watching a Looney Tunes cartoon that had the typewriter sound (clackety-clackety-clackety DING! whzzzt). It occurred to me that he'd probably never heard that sound in real life, and sure enough when I asked, he had no idea what it was supposed to be.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:26 AM
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Whenever you see people using cameras in TV shows they still dub in the motor wind noise that you'd get on modern(ish) film cameras. Even when the camera is clearly digital and doesn't make that noise. I'd imagine like the clackety-clackety-DING that will fade out in time.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:38 AM
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My son (he's 6 - supposedly a true child of the digital age) was doing some puzzle book yesterday that had 3 pictures then a "what comes next?" multiple choice. The sequence was of a woman getting out a camera and taking a picture of a boy. He picked her then showing the boy a photo (physical piece of paper). I pointed out that this was unlikely as the boy was wearing different clothes, so he suggested the one where a man is being handed an envelope (that looks like one you'd get photos in, not that E has ever had that experience) over a counter. Um .... what about this one that has the woman turning the camera round and showing the boy the photo on the screen on the back? The whole thing was very weird - I was wondering whether he was trying to make up a sequence he's seen somewhere rather than the one that he's experienced many many times.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:00 AM
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Perhaps he was trying to second guess what 'old' people might expect?


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:22 AM
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That typewriter noise has a very different association for me. When I was a kid, my mom was a writer. During summer vacation this gets fairly boring, and when my mom has been writing for a few hours she gets pretty oblivious to outside stimuli. Fun game: sneak up on your mom, and then yell and grab her butt!! Sure, you're liable to lose outside privileges over it, but goddamn is it worth it. To me, typewriter noise induces stealth mode.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:30 AM
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what? i learned that typwriters make that sound by watching tv

im not sure i've ever seen a typewriter in action


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:13 AM
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Never seen a typewriter in action at all, or just never one with a manual carriage return?


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:40 AM
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I still have videotapes somewhere from back in the early '90's, when some housemates and I started taping the gay episodes of shows (Seinfeld, Northern Exposure, etc.) because it was so exciting that teh gays were on regular TV!


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 4:26 AM
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In Japan the usury rate is 20%. Of course, official interest rates are near zero, so there's a bit of a different market situation, but still.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 5:57 AM
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Yeah, people laugh when I play my 78s. "Ooh! What's that?"


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 6:03 AM
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This should be illegal.

Why do you hate America?


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 6:15 AM
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My friend's ex-wife was a compulsive shopper, and took out several Gary Coleman loans like this (in the LA area he's the shill for them.) I remember the deal being about 3k with fine print yielding 120% yearly interest. Unbelievable.

With one, she bought Prada luggage. With the other, handmade tiles. I heard there was a third, but they had divorced by then, saints be praised.


Posted by: Counterfly | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:25 AM
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18 is a wonderful analogy to people picking candidates by their electability. Banned, of course.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:26 AM
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I bet this decade's been a tough one for loan sharks. Goddamn legitimate businessmen taking all their business. Kneecappers working as lumberjacks, sales of the special Nefarious Edition Lincoln Town Cars tanking.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:28 AM
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26: There's a woman here in town who's bankrupted two guys and is working on the third. One of the guys had already had his credit cards maxed by a different lady. (Yeah, I know that it's sexist to say this, but in my demographic that stuff really does happen.)


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:34 AM
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13: I mean series 1, which played here on BBC America last August. I am pretty desperate to get access to series 2, which AFAIK only ran here as a weekend marathon of episodes and which we missed because we'd taken out the Season Pass for it last year when series 1 ended. I'm hopeful that BBCA will run it again. Of course, we'll need to watch the finale of series 1 first and the way we are about television (in that we're not very obsessed with it) that could be next year. Hell, the second half of the most recent season of BSG has cycled onto and off of our TiVo twice.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:36 AM
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it's sexist to say this

Not if it's true.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:36 AM
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29: Don't you live in a small town. How was it not the gossip of the town after the first guy? If it was the second and third guy should have known better.


Posted by: CJB | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:39 AM
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30: have you, uh, checked the internet?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:41 AM
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When I was an angst-ridden young tween, I typed all my journal entries on my grandma's old typewriter, with the little round buttons that each had it's own metal stilt connecting it to the guts, and the manual carriage return, and it was built right into a little carrying suitcase that snapped in place around it. And it had both black ink and red ink.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:45 AM
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She dumped the first guy before he declared bankruptcy. The third guy lives 30 miles away. The second guy is a nice guy but a real sucker. The third was just ditched by his wife of many years.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:46 AM
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Not if it's true.

Truth is a defense against libel, but not sexism.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:46 AM
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I'm sure that people would pay big money for those journals now. "The Heebie You Never Knew". It was nice of you to type them so that people don't have to mess with your handwriting.

My sisters have read some of my mother's diaries. Apparently she was a pretty bad girl by the standards of 1936 Iowa. Cigarettes, and more than one boyfriend.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:49 AM
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33: I feel weird guilt pangs about downloading something I actually like. Also I am too impatient for torrents.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:54 AM
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I'm sure that people would pay big money for those journals now.

Really? Then I'll make the REALLY big bucks when I cash in on my current blog, twenty years from now. These things are scarce.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:56 AM
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At my high-school reunion (10th) I heard of a woman from my year who had put $5k worth of boobs on her credit card.

I felt like I was a bad person for being insufficiently dismayed; my first thought was "well, if she could balance xfer it over to a low-rate card, bully for her."


Posted by: Counterfly | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:02 AM
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How many boobs was that -- buy two, get one free?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:08 AM
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The third one goes on the back, for slow-dancing.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:10 AM
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That's a transhuman development I haven't seen yet. Nursing dogs, cats and squirrels look so cute with their multi-boobs.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:11 AM
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When I was an angst-ridden young tween, I typed all my journal entries on my grandma's old typewriter

I did this too, but it was my parents'. I was influenced by my dad's typing of bedtime stories.

I still remember, it was an Olivetti Underwood.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:12 AM
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Back to the subject of the post, it's been depressing for a while to listen to any mainstream radio station. About a quarter of the ads are for usurous lending services, either for mortgages, student loans, or Blue Hippo, and then even more than that are for debt consolidation services. This is why I'm so reluctant to go into debt to get a master's, even though as a member of the ruling class I should airily wave those concerns aside.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:18 AM
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45: It depends: a master's in what? MFA -- probably not going to pay for itself. MBA -- a good investment, depending on the school.

I don't understand why this credit meltdown is a shock to anyone. Even I knew better than to get an adjustable-rate loan five years ago. I always assumed the subprime lenders just planned to recycle the real estate when the buyers defaulted. I guess selling soon-to-be-worthless paper to naive young hedge fund managers seemed like simpler route.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:40 AM
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boobs on her credit card

This is apparently a trend.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:44 AM
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I was in the last class at my high school to take typing on actual typewriters. We had to learn things like how to manually center titles by counting up the number of letters, dividing by two, and subtracing that number from 40 (because there are 80 characters on the line, see) and then pressing the space bar that number of times to position the cursor at the correct starting point for a centered line.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:47 AM
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It depends: a master's in what? MFA -- probably not going to pay for itself. MBA -- a good investment, depending on the school.

MPH in infectious diseases including some epidemiology and biostatistics courses.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:55 AM
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I also took typing on an actual typewriter. The room was half typewriters and half Apple IIe's IIRC and we were on several-week rotations with each. I grew up typing most papers on an electric typewriter of my parents' but later my dad got a VAX account and a DEC dumb terminal and a modem at home so that he could check his work email (this would have been, oh, '87 or so; it was purely in-house email) and I started typing my papers as text files on his account and printing them to the dot-matrix printer attached to the dumb terminal because that was, you know, cool.

Due to this exposure, I took typing as an easy A my senior year of high school. My word-count was already pretty high and my typing teacher drafted me into FBLA thinking I'd be a ringer for the typing competition. At the regionals I trounced most of the rest of the room but ultimately I had my ass handed to me by a gnome from some redneck town way up the mountain. Every part of that is completely true.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:56 AM
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I used to temp a fair bit in university holidays and some of the places I used to temp still used typewriters. Typically because they had some old but still not superseded forms that needed to be filled out and that used carbon paper.

I was always impressed by the old school secretaries who could manage truly insane speeds on an electric typewriter.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:58 AM
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MPH in infectious diseases including some epidemiology and biostatistics courses.

I would imagine that this is going to be a growing field over the next 20 years at least. Aren't there programs that will pay off your debt if you agree to work in some disagreeable place for a couple of years? I know they do this for physicians.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:05 AM
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I also took typing on an actual typewriter.

Yeah, and our's were manual. Don't type too fast, or the keys will get stuck!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:51 AM
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I took typing in middle school on a mix of electric typewriters and Apple IIs (similar to what Pants describes above).


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:59 AM
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Thanks mcmc.

We used typewriters (albeit with some small amount of ROM) and old-school layout materials to make my high school yearbook (class of 2000). I bet a lot of these technologies are being kept alive by high school clubs.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:59 AM
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I took typing in 9th grade, back in the days of typewriters. Years later, I was coaching a high school basketball team, and one of my players said he was late because he had detention from "keyboarding" class. I thought he was talking about music...


Posted by: McKingford | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:04 AM
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I was with my 12 yo niece at the National Gallery's sculpture garden. She saw Oldenburg and Van Bruggen's Typewriter Eraser, Scale X and asked me what it was. Suddenly I realized that not only did I have to explain the typewriter eraser but that I would have to explain the typewriter. She had just the vaguest of ideas what one was (i.e., paper goes in & words come out).


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:14 AM
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our's


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:20 AM
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I've gotta say I do not know what that typewriter eraser thing is either. My typewriter had wite-out strips that you were supposed to put over the letter and then type the same letter again so that the white B cancelled out the black B.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:23 AM
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our's

Didn't look right to me either, young Ben.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:31 AM
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I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, but an MPH is a very marketable degree, at least around these parts.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:46 AM
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Never mind three months ago, this weekend I saw an ad from countrywide (country's largest mortgage provider, with its stock tanking daily) for no fee refi. I assume they're trying to draw the last few credit-worthy folks in the country so they can keep at least 3 or 4 mortgage brokers on staff.


Posted by: cw | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:47 AM
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I think that a statistics background is also transferable to lots of things.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:47 AM
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Yeah, the eraser is very low tech. The eraser is very narrow to cover just one letter. I think the round shape also helps as the contact patch is small. Corrasable paper and Wite Out were my friends in college. But heck, I still have a manual typewriter in the closet in case of I dunno what.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:08 AM
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My parents kept a typewriter eraser in the case with the electric but it didn't work for shit. The ribbon for it had a correction line that sort of worked; it worked well enough for elementary and jr. high purposes, anyway. The typewriters in high school were Selectrics, IIRC, that did more legitimate correction.

In one of the closets in my home office I have an old typewriter from the '20s that I picked up for a couple of bucks at a yard sale in the '80s. It has a ribbon and the last time I stuck paper in it worked. It also weighs about seven tons. If it didn't look cool I wouldn't have moved it a dozen times but if it looks so cool then why do I have it at the bottom of a closet? Le sigh.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:39 AM
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