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We eat a lot of these lentils, which I realize may seem too weird for most people. But I developed it after learning that ful medames is often eaten as a breakfast food.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:09 AM
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Breakfast burrito with scrambled eggs, black beans, and a bit of cheese and salsa? Could be made the evening before and eaten cold the following morning. Cold eggs aren't for everyone, though.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:09 AM
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Thighs are cheaper than breasts, and IMO taste better. Also, I don't believe that prepacked chicken salad is cheaper than chicken breasts -- you're just eating less chicken in the form of chicken salad because you're eating more mayo. If you're hungry, and need the calories, what's wrong with getting some of them in the form of mayo?

Also, hardboiled eggs? Other, non-chicken, cold meat?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:09 AM
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I eat toast with liverwurst for breakfast. Easy + protein + iron.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:10 AM
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Is one of the requirements that you be able to take it in and eat it at work?

If not, breakfast "burrito". Prep: diced bell pepper, diced green onion, shredded cheese, cooked & diced hot sausage. Tortilla. Cooking: Put cheese on tortilla. Scramble two eggs. Toss in pepper, onion, sausage. Place in tortilla. Roll up. Eat.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:11 AM
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If you start smoking, you can eliminate breakfast altogether in favor of a cigarette and a cup of coffee.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:12 AM
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Is one of the requirements that you be able to take it in and eat it at work?

Yes, actually.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:12 AM
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Drink raw eggs.

Has anyone done this, actually? My diet is pretty low on protein and I've thought about it as a quick-fix solution.


Posted by: destroyer | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:13 AM
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Yeah, ditto on the chicken thighs being nicer than breasts. Hardboiled eggs are also good. Cook up some sausages, mebbe? Have with some fresh tomato and salad?

Personally I tend to skip breakfast and then succumb to the lure of pain au chocolat or blueberry muffins around 11:30. Which is clearly the absolutely wrong way to go.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:13 AM
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To expand on 'cold meat' -- do a beef roast once a week, and slice it for breakfast sandwiches? No trouble either up front or at breakfast time.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:13 AM
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6: It's always efficiency for you, isn't it, Apo?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:14 AM
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1: redfox: that looks awesome, and I even have lentils at home already. Thanks!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:14 AM
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I have no idea why cold meats didn't occur to me, but it's a good idea.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:15 AM
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Now I'm thinking about hardboiled eggs, and I want deviled eggs.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:16 AM
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Eggs every day is problematic on the cholesterol front; that's also the problem with mayo.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:17 AM
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Smoked fish, either straight or in salads? Smoked whitefish salad, while classically on a bagel, would be good on a pita, not to mention lox, or any other kind of smoked fish.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:17 AM
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12: Woo!

14: God, I love deviled eggs. I have not yet tested how many I could eat if I let myself go on eating them until I stopped wanting more. It would certainly be an embarrassing and possibly dangerous number.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:17 AM
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Oh, sliced eye of round roast is wonderful.

Okay, portable things. Hardboiled eggs, sliced, put in a pita with tomato and lettuce. You can even use a bit of mayo because it will be far less mayo than egg salad would be.

You're lactose-intolerant, right? So yoghurt with stuff mixed in is probably out.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:18 AM
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Hmmm. I was going to suggest the omelette and bacon I have roughly every other morning, but 7 rules that out. Although I want to try 5 myself some day.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:19 AM
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15: Not so! I started having a breakfast burrito every day when my wife moved out last year, and I haven't had my cholesterol checked once in that time.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:19 AM
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You're lactose-intolerant, right?

Yup.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:19 AM
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15: I thought eggs were good for you and they found that cholesterol was more a problem with your body than just eating eggs.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:19 AM
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Personally I tend to skip breakfast and then succumb to the lure of pain au chocolat or blueberry muffins around 11:30.

This is so alien. I wake up and wander into the kitchen for something to eat so that I can face the problem of assembling an actual breakfast. I'm never voluntarily more than five minutes between my feet hitting the floor and chewing on something.

Also for Ogged -- sliced hard sausage and cheese on crackers?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:19 AM
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Minus the cheese, which I lactonormatively forgot was a problem.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:20 AM
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This may sound gross/weird, but I often make little sandwiches in the toaster for breakfast, with grainy bread, sliced tomatoes and red peppers, low-fat ricotta cheese, and, after toasting, a slather of hummus. Proteiny, low-fat, filling, and nutritious!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:20 AM
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This is so alien. I wake up and wander into the kitchen for something to eat so that I can face the problem of assembling an actual breakfast. I'm never voluntarily more than five minutes between my feet hitting the floor and chewing on something.

Ditto. I have the chicken salad after I have a nut bar.

The rest of your comment is honkatively lactonormative.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:21 AM
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You could make crepes and wrap them around leftover chicken cooked lightly in hoisin sauce. Possible problem: eating all the crepes.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:21 AM
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re: 23

I rarely feel hungry right after getting up. If I am at home and not going to work, I will usually eat within an hour or so of getting out of bed. A few pieces of toast with some scrambled eggs or some cereal. Maybe a bowl of porridge.

But when I'm going to work I tend to wait till my mid morning tea-break. It's caffeine I need immediately on waking.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:21 AM
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Nah, not weird.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:21 AM
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25: Nevermind. Fucking lactose!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:22 AM
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I wish I had a bowl of my breakfast lentils right now.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:23 AM
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I normally eat when I wake up but today I forgot. Smoothies are out due to the restriction on liquidy, right? I love a good smoothie, but I do find that they're filling for about 20 minutes. It must be the blending that does it because if I have yogurt and a banana I'm good for a while but if I whirr them into a smoothie they digest too fast. But they're usually pretty good on protein and you could get soy yogurt or something.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:24 AM
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Eggs are awesome. I'm going to have a cheddar leek omelets. Something seems off about cheddar and leeks -- two powerful flavors? but that's what I got, and omelets are how I roll.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:25 AM
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Yeah, smoothies are out on liquidy. I do love smoothies though.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:25 AM
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Also, back to chicken breasts and expense -- are you buying preflattened chicken cutlets? Because if you just buy the breasts, and slice them yourself, they're much cheaper.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:26 AM
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Peanut butter banana sandwiches would be good in a rotation.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:26 AM
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Or in an omelet.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:26 AM
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For dinner tonight we are having that zucchini frittata. Up with eggs!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:26 AM
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Something seems off about cheddar and leeks -- two powerful flavors?

Oh, no it doesn't sound off. It sounds really good.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:26 AM
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I'm really good about eating a hearty breakfast and less later in the day. I'll wake up two hours before I have to leave, even on a very early day, just so I can make a good breakfast, drink coffee, and read news. But now I'm realizing that I end up eating too much anyway throughout the day, so I'm trying to cook my traditional breakfast foods for dinner and replace breakfast with cereal. Last night, I had a delicious frittata for dinner. Mmm.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:27 AM
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Cheapest way I find is to buy whole chickens and butcher them yourself.

That way you get two breasts, the thighs, drumsticks and a carcass for making soup.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:28 AM
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Cheapest way I find is to buy whole chickens and butcher them yourself.

Barbaric. Also too much work. I buy breasts and cut them up. Still something like $9/lb. at Whole Foods (and I think more than that at the nearer grocery store).


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:29 AM
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I'm kind of like AWB in 40, except I split the difference: get up one hour early and show up one hour late.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:31 AM
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pb & j?


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:31 AM
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Nah, it takes 10 minutes. The chickens are gutted and plucked. I'm just buying whole chickens meant for roasting and then doing the cutting. Easily 100% cheaper than buying it cut up.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:32 AM
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I love a good smoothie, but I do find that they're filling for about 20 minutes. It must be the blending that does it because if I have yogurt and a banana I'm good for a while but if I whirr them into a smoothie they digest too fast.

My doctor suggested including protein powder in my (near-daily) smoothies, and this seems to have helped with the 20-minute problem. (Caveat: I'm hypoglycemic, so my blood sugar was doing some weird things in response to the sudden deluge of fructose; the protein seems to mediate that reaction and leaves me feeling full for a long while.)


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:32 AM
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Still something like $9/lb. at Whole Foods (and I think more than that at the nearer grocery store).

You've got to be kidding me.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:33 AM
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Nah, it takes 10 minutes.

You have superior skills, sir. It takes me that long to cut up a couple of breasts (though I confess to being incredibly picky about defatting and degristling the meat).


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:33 AM
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Still something like $9/lb. at Whole Foods (and I think more than that at the nearer grocery store).

That's insane. You can sometimes get good tuna for that price, and tuna tends to be crazy expensive.


Posted by: dob | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:34 AM
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44: Or peanut butter on crackers.

42, 45: Or, you can buy the chickens whole, roast them, and then disassemble after roasting into cold chicken pieces to gnaw on. And roasting a chicken goes from almost no work, if you just throw it in the pan, to very little work if you do a little more rubbing with spices and oil, trussing, whatever.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:35 AM
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Apparently, there's some level above free range chicken. Ogged only buys chicken that had therapy, so that it could come to terms with its approaching death.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:37 AM
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1: That does look really good. I will have to try those if I can track down the crispy onions.


Posted by: CJB | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:37 AM
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The Very Face, y'all.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:37 AM
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Have you ever tried microwaving fish, e.g. salmon, along with some cut up veggies and fruits? Just wrap everything up in a pouch of parchment paper and nuke it for like ten minutes. The fruit provides enough liquid to steam everything nicely.


Posted by: dob | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:38 AM
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It's hard to find something easier than pickled herring on Wasa bread. It is, admittedly, a slightly weird taste to start the day with. But it requires no prep, doesn't go bad and is fairly cheap, full of protein and good for you.


Posted by: Tom | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:38 AM
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51: Yeah, I'm starting to figure out why liberals annoy Ogged -- he thinks of liberals as the people who determine his chicken prices.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:40 AM
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ttaM's right about the chicken. And $9/lb is nuts. And I thought only white people ate just the breast.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:41 AM
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55: I think this conversation started because Ogged doesn't want people to make fun of his non-breakfasty breakfast choices anymore, right?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:41 AM
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58: Yeah, but I think herring's weird enough that people don't know what meal it should normally count as. Also, Wasa's dimensions make it seem superficially breakfasty.


Posted by: Tom | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:43 AM
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It is boneless, skinless breast meat. There are cheaper selections, but come on.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:44 AM
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Actually, cut up chicken breasts here are about $9/lb in a supermarket. Sometimes more.

Hence adventures in chicken butchery ...


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:44 AM
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I'm not really a fan of fish, unfortunately.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:45 AM
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Ogged only buys chicken that has passed through the digestive tracts of civets.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:45 AM
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Actually, cut up chicken breasts here are about $9/lb in a supermarket. Sometimes more.

Sure. If you live in a socialist country. But maybe ogged's having the chicken flown over from England. I could see that being more expensive.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:46 AM
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Pickled herring and smoked fish are the best of all foods, but they bother a lot of people.

My brunch today was pickled herring plus the best canteloupe I've ever had in my life. It was aromatic, melted in your mouth and was sweet as candy. One day longer and it would have started to go bad.

Pickled herring is a pretty simple recipe -- I've never had bad pickled herring except one time when it had been sitting in the cooler for too long. But I've had bad canteloupe (crunchy and flavorless.)


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:46 AM
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I thought the food threads were always already about sex, and vice versa.

Ogged: you should have sex for breakfast.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:47 AM
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Fish, eggs, dairy, mayo.....

Oatmeal? Is oatmeal OK? They have little quicky packets you can microwave, and it will make you seem more white.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:49 AM
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About sex, OT: I have a date tonight, but am concerned that my very email-happy date stopped replying yesterday and has only sent a sad-sounding "So... are we still on for tomorrow?" without then replying to my request for a phone number. Am I going into his spam filter? Should I assume everything's fine?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:50 AM
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I second pb & j, which is lovely in the morning. Esp. with crunchy pb. Pasta salads, made once a week or two in large batches, could be yummy, esp. with cubed tofu for protein.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:50 AM
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Instant oatmeal is so, so yucky.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:50 AM
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Do you have concrete plans -- like, you know where and when to show up? Because I would, and not worry about it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:51 AM
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Do you live near a Costco? Can you get big, cheap bags of chicken breasts there? My parents used to get those. Probably not organic, free-range whatevers but cheap.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:51 AM
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70: That steelcut scottish oatmeal is yummy, though, and you can make it in batches ahead of time, and reheat daily. If you add nuts, it's proteinier, and dried fruit is just good.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:52 AM
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I know you like (or at least eat) tofu. Could you make a tofu scramble that you just heat up in the microwave, stick in a tortilla, and call a burrito?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:52 AM
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71: Yup. Okay, I won't worry. If he doesn't show, I'll try to figure out if something went wrong, but he probably will.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:52 AM
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I second pb & j

Sure. I used to have almond butter on rice cakes, and still like that a lot. But now that nut bars are my main snack, I'm less keen on the almond butter; a guy can only stand so many nuts in a day.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:54 AM
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You can get pre-marinated and cooked tofu "steaks" flavored with Mexican seasoning. Those hold together much better than fresh raw tofu and might make a good base for a breakfast burrito, with low-fat refried beans and rice.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:54 AM
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76: Has anyone said hummus yet?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:56 AM
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I did. I love hummus in the morning.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:56 AM
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46: Right now I've been including flaxseed oil, which helps a little bit and is supposed to be good for you.

72: Or a regular grocery store, even. $9 is not chicken prices and if you're grinding it up and mixing it with mayo anyway...


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:57 AM
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Peanut butter and honey on double-fiber wheat bread (to make it extra filling).


Posted by: янтарный | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:58 AM
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I've never myself felt that there were too many peanuts or almonds in any one day, so I find this hard to imagine. But, ok.

Maybe you could grill a bunch of yummy chicken sausage once a week and munch on one in the morning. You could even wrap it in a microwave pancake; I understand in some parts of the country/breakfast establishments, this is erroneously known as a "pig in a blanket." I would not, however, recommend "pigs in a blanket" proper, (read: holupki) for breakfast.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:03 AM
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My vegetarian advice is probably totally useless here, but I frequently have the following breakfasts:

1. veggie sausage, heated up in the microwave, on toast with a bit of cheese and some salsa. I use to take in the raw ingredients to work and put the ensemble together there. It doesn't take too long. I like Tofurkey's Kielbasa flavor. Fairly low fat too.

2. half can of beans, ever so briefly sauteed with garam masala the previous night or night before that, served with tabasco or salsa on toast. This might also work in the pita.

3. Almond butter on toast with a juicy fruit on the side.

Is this lactose intolerance strong enough to preclude (partially delactified [1]) yogurt or cottage cheese?

And woe to anyone who harrasses me by saying savoury food is not for breakfast.

[1] yes I know this is not a word, but it sounds so pleasing to me I had to use it.


Posted by: Saheli | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:04 AM
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woops, just saw Ogged's thing about the almond butter. nix that.


Posted by: Saheli | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:05 AM
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Still something like $9/lb. at Whole Foods (and I think more than that at the nearer grocery store).

Ogged, that's insane. Even allowing for bone/skinlessness. It's dead easy to skin chicken (grab the skin, pull) and nearly as easy to bone a breast. There is never an excuse for buying boned/skinned chicken parts.

You can get thighs for like $2.39/lb even at Whole Foods or comparably snooty stores.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:12 AM
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Thighs taste like animal.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:13 AM
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Protein powder eaten dry with a spoon? That doesn't taste like animal.

Or, if tastes like animal is a bad thing, go be a vegetarian.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:15 AM
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Of course, I alternate between three things for breakfast:

1. Oatmeal with some selection of fruit/nuts/honey/yoghurt
2. Bread with marmalade
3. Dutch Baby pancakes


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:15 AM
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Thighs taste like animal.

So white.

You should start posting as "milquetoast".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:16 AM
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Ooo. Dutch baby pancakes. Mmmm.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:16 AM
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Do you skin these Dutch babies first, wolf-man?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:17 AM
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Thighs and breasts arouse Ogged's prurience an distract him from breakfast. Scratch chicken.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:19 AM
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Of course not. I like it when the skin gets all crispy.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:19 AM
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Yum. You could stuff a chicken sausage inside a Dutch Baby pancake with no trouble at all. Protein, sweet, savory, and deliciousness all at once.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:19 AM
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Just to recap here, we're looking for an easy to prepare, high protein, low cholesterol, non-dairy, non-nut, non-fish, foodstuff that doesn't taste like animal.

I hate to tell you this, Ogged, but you're going to starve.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:20 AM
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Sausage neither tastes nor looks like animal.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:21 AM
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There is never an excuse for buying boned/skinned chicken parts.

I have been trying to make my wife understand this basic truth, without success. Boneless/skinless breasts are $6-7/lb at our local WF equivalent.

Thighs taste like animal.

So sad.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:21 AM
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95 - not so fast! There's always Quorn!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:21 AM
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You're just being ornery, LB. Chicken breast, roast beef, turkey...none of these taste like animal.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:21 AM
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95: /pouting. ..I don't see what was wrong with my garbanzo beans or seitan sausage. . .


Posted by: Saheli | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:22 AM
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I'm a little confused as to what "tastes like animal" means in ogged's mouth.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:22 AM
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101 gets it right.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:24 AM
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It's merely a poetical way of saying "gamey," gaylord.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:24 AM
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That's because chicken breast and turkey breast tastes like crap. Here's, let's breed the hell out of it so it has no flavor, then inject it with a salt solution to put the flavor back in.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:24 AM
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101: I think he means "tastes like blood."


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:24 AM
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Quorn is really good. Why don't I eat more quorn? Or huitlacoche, for that matter.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:24 AM
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Chicken thighs taste gamey by you. Chicken thighs.

I weep.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:25 AM
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I like the Markson-inspired inflections in 107, Ben.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:26 AM
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You can get thighs for like $2.39/lb even at Whole Foods or comparably snooty stores.

w-lfs-n, you misunderstand. The point of buying $9/lbs. chicken breast is to show that you are the refined sort who needs $9/lbs. chicken breast. You don't think it was a common farmers' market pea that ogged's mom first slipped under his mattress, do you?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:26 AM
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Quorn tastes of bugger all. It's a crap meat substitute. That's fine, if you're a non-meat-eater, but lets not pretend it tastes nice.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:26 AM
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The point of buying $9/lbs. chicken breast is to show that you are the refined sort who needs $9/lbs. chicken breast.

In that case, who needs breakfast? I see Apo's coffee and a cigarette, and raise him a couple of grams of cocaine.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:27 AM
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I stopped eating chicken for about two years because it was so flavorless. Then I bought some when shivbunny was here because he isn't a fan of most vegetarian food. It seems like a good plan until he defrosted a chicken breast and then asked me whether it was a turkey breast because it was from some sort of mutant chicken. I think we're done with chicken for a while.

Now we pretty much eat pork. I don't even like pork.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:28 AM
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111: If I were spending that much, I'd have lobster for breakfast. Maybe not so good for taking to work, though.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:29 AM
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Roast chicken on the bone. Much more flavor. Chicken breasts don't taste like much of anything, animal or not.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:30 AM
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Really good quality chicken tastes nice and has a real flavour. However, good chicken, here at leasts, costs about $12 a chicken.

There's always game birds or duck if chicken is a bit bland.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:30 AM
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For breakfast almost every morning I have six to eight large strips of bacon and a good-sized bowl of fresh fruit (some combo of blueberries, strawberries, melons, pineapple). And a large cup of coffee, black. Simple and delicious.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:30 AM
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110: Quorn is very nice. Of course, it's obviously not any kind of "mycoprotein"; it's the pounded, veal-like flesh of some kind of mole-people or morlocks or something.

Quorn!

Now, that pre-marinated, weird toful stuff I can't stand. And breakfast burritos? Urgh, unless they have lots and lots of cheese and refritos. The thought of cooking those lentils for breakfast, though, has me dizzy with anticipation.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:31 AM
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A few days in the fridge before cooking can improve the flavor of chicken.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:32 AM
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117: s/b "tofu"; toful is a a prog-rock album, or it should have been.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:32 AM
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If I were spending $9 a pound on meat, it wouldn't be chicken.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:33 AM
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Brock's breakfast sounds nice [only I'd put milk in the coffee].


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:33 AM
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Chicken breast is basically tofu in my mind. Dressed up in a variety of ways its palatable, but on its own merit, it may as well be Soylent Green. Just getting the job done.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:34 AM
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122 gets it right.

I have a very strong cultural/family-indoctrinated aversion to ordering vegetarian dishes. It just seems like the vegetarian option should be not just $1 less than the cheapest meat option, but MUCH less. I need to remember that tofu is quite similar to chicken, at least when they're fried.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:36 AM
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re: 120

US foodstuffs are, I believe, much cheaper than here.

re: lentils

A nice lentil salad can be made by cooking puy lentils and draining and leaving to cool while you cook some frozen peas and refreshing under cold running water. Combine the two. Stir in some freshly chopped parsley, loads of freshly ground black pepper, and then drizzling with extra-virgin olive oil. Tastes great. If you add a couple of thin slices of goat's cheese on top it's the perfect lunch.

Maybe a bit much for breakfast.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:36 AM
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Thighs taste like animal.
I don't even like pork.

What the hell is wrong with you people?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:36 AM
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Markson wasn't the first to use repetition or short phrases for effect, o-man.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:36 AM
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Is processing a factor in this decision? Maybe you should just buy some lunchables and call it a day.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:36 AM
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The only people I know who eat cocaine for breakfast are securities lawyers, and Ogged presumably doesn't want to be like us. Or have to take naps at 3:00 once the high wears off.


Posted by: justjenny | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:39 AM
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(Though I did notice the same thing.)

However, good chicken, here at leasts, costs about $12 a chicken.

That's what I recently paid for a whole one, but it came to less than $3/lb. (Naturally, I cut it into 8 serving parts—I admit, though, that I just tossed the carcass.)

Ogged, you should just go down to your nearest chinatown-equivalent and buy some of those ducks they always have in the window.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:39 AM
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No no, Ogged, while you're in Chinatown buy fertilized eggs. Then in a few weeks you can just pop a pullet or cockerel into your mouth every morning.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:40 AM
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Why don't I eat more quorn koЯn?

Also: What the hell is a Dutch baby pancake?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:41 AM
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124: I was responding more to ogged and his snooty mcsnoot chicken.

Roast chicken is very good if you stuff sage and rosemary under the skin before you roast it. Still, chicken is the blank canvas of foods.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:41 AM
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A gigantic puffy pancake.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:42 AM
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If you think $9/lb for chicken is pricey, you should see what Whole Foods charges for deboned Dutch babies.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:43 AM
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Cooking for one it doesn't really make sense, but homemade chicken carcass soup stock is easy to make and really tasty. Throw in the skin and leftover bones too. And I'm not even a cook.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:43 AM
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It's baked, like some freaked-out breakfast popover. With fruit? Mmmm.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:44 AM
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Perfect breakfast for Ogged - meaty and pancakey.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:44 AM
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Still, chicken is the blank canvas of foods.

There was an article in the Atlantic a while back about "heirloom chickens"—chickens bred from lines that hadn't had everything interesting about them destroyed in the effort to get bigger and bigger breasts. Kinda spendy, apparently, but yum-o-licious. My mom was recently enthusing about some chickens she got at whole foods that were apparently quite flavorful themselves.

Chicken is also very good with BACON.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:44 AM
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If you slowcook Dutch babies the bones melt in your mouth.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:44 AM
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133: Oh, I've had those--they're delicious. But we just called them puffy pancakes. Baby = gigantic?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:45 AM
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Probably uyou can customize chickens by feeding them special foods to give them more flavor.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:45 AM
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: I was responding more to ogged and his snooty mcsnoot chicken.

There's a certain type of person who believes that the higher the price, the higher the value. I'm now wondering if the guys at the butcher counter see ogged coming and just invert the price label.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:46 AM
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Markson wasn't the first to use repetition or short phrases for effect, o-man.

Shocking, if true. However, you have been reading the Markson recently, and that's what you were thinking of, and I won't hear another word on it.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:47 AM
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141: Can I fed them, say, bacon I wonder? Or chicken sausage? Because if I could get a chicken breast that tasted like chicken sausage, that woudl be sweet.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:48 AM
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Mm, lentil salad. We have some puy lentils at home; maybe I will make that when we run out of breakfast lentils. With feta, methinks.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:48 AM
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There's a certain type of person who believes that the higher the price, the higher the value.

Hey, if that isn't true the business won't stay in business very long, ha ha. </economist>


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:49 AM
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Look, you duck fuckers, I'm glad you live in the boondocks where everything costs a dime, but that's what chicken costs here, and that's roughly what it costs at each of the four grocery stores nearest me. I could get it cheaper if I had to do more prep work, but given that this is something I'll be having every day, that's just too much prep work. Fie on you all.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:50 AM
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Duck probably tastes like animal too.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:51 AM
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The best-tasting Dutch babies are the ones raised on a pure chicken-and-cigarettes diet. Don't let them try to to sell you the ones they feed cocaine. Those are all stringy unless you tenderize the daylights out of them.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:52 AM
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I'm not sure I live in the boondocks, o-face.

You can freeze chicken, you know. Get it cheaper and prep a whole bunch of it sometime when you don't have anything to do—friday night, say— then defrost as necessary.

And do you really want to have the same thing for breakfast every day?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:52 AM
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In Elgin, N.D. duck costs $.19 a pound.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:53 AM
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Once you've removed them, though, the daylights can be sauteed for a tasty snack.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:53 AM
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and that's roughly what it costs at each of the four grocery stores nearest me

I think we'd all been assuming that you still lived in the US. But, hey, at least you get free medical care now.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:53 AM
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Chickens are completely willing to eat chicken. They do not eat chicken guts full of chicken shit, however. There's a fundamental scientific principle there.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:55 AM
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Anyway, the lentils are a good idea. Make some lentils. You can even snoot it up by getting the fancy french lentils and calling them "lentilles du puy". Put a quartered hard-boiled egg in there along with some fennel and peppers, maybe some carrot and lightly sauteed red onion. Add a vinaigrette and shoot the first person who says it ain't breakfast.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:55 AM
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And you could boil up w-lfs-n's wasted carcass to make stock.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:56 AM
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Well, I don't really need them to eat chicken sausage. If they could eat pork sausage and then taste like pork sausage, that would still be a notable improvement.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:56 AM
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And do you really want to have the same thing for breakfast every day?

Yes.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:56 AM
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They do not eat chicken guts full of chicken shit

Pigs will eat chitlins.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:57 AM
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Really? How come?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:57 AM
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160 to 158.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:57 AM
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155 sounds like prison food to me.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:57 AM
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Really? How come?

Because I love routine.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:58 AM
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You could put some sausage in a different lentil preparation. Your fellow Whole Foods enthusiast can offer some tips.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:58 AM
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Easy to prepare, proteinacious, filling

I've got just the thing for you, Ogged. You'll need to stand back a little, though.

Not liquidy

Ah, too bad.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:58 AM
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To the death, Sybil Vane!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:59 AM
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165 took longer than I expected.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:59 AM
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162: That's exactly what I thought the first time someone served me lentils, in the form of gray sludge in a bowl. "Hey, prison food!" I thought. But it does kind of grow on you, even more so if prepared in not so much the gray sludgy manner.

Ogged-- if you search the site for 'lentils', I've got a very easy spinach-lentil soup, that could just as easily be made thicker, into a porridgey sort of texture. I don't know if that violates the 'no liquids' rule.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:00 AM
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The thread linked in 164 provides us with another potential username, "Linsen mit Speck".


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:00 AM
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165 took longer than I expected.

He masturbated a lot as a kid.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:00 AM
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165 took longer than I expected.

Sorry. I masturbated a lot as a kid.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:01 AM
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He also lines up all eight of his freshly-sharpened pencils in a neat row on the right hand side of his desk every day before he starts work. Whenever he uses one of them, he resharpens it immediately.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:01 AM
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Quinoa is proteinlicious.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:01 AM
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Lentilles du puy, and even non-snooty green lentils, don't turn into sludge readily. Brown and red lentils are the sludgy ones.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:01 AM
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Shit.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:01 AM
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Ogged-- if you search the site for 'lentils'

I would find my own delicious lentil recipe. Lentils are good.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:01 AM
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My soup recipe is comment 13 to the post linked in 164.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:01 AM
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I can't help it, it does. It was the egg that really did it for me. Throwing random hard boiled eggs in shit just screams economizing and mass protein preparation to me. That and I hate fennel.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:02 AM
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Lentilles du puy are really great, you know. Lentils!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:02 AM
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Black beans can be substituted for lentils and will revieve less ridicule from your high-tone friends.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:02 AM
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economizing and mass protein preparation

I thought that was the point here.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:02 AM
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Ogged wanted the protein. Plus I really like hard-boiled eggs provided that they aren't boiled too hard—the yolk should still have some softness in the center—mmm, eggs.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:03 AM
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170, 171 - people.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:03 AM
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I have to say, lentils with hard-boiled eggs and fennel does not sound like prison food to me. But then I've never been to prison.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:03 AM
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Also, lentils are great.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:04 AM
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Prison food is the logical conclusion of the inquiry I guess. The other thing the random eggs make me think of is that funny scene in The Birdcage where the houseboy thrown hardboiled eggs in the random and heinous soup he makes.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:05 AM
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138: I imagine so, but at the prices of heirloom chicken I'd probably prefer beef or tuna. And everything is better with bacon.

It wouldn't even be sludge with red lentils. What are you guys doing to your lentils that they turn grey?

Speaking of weird colored food -- I made spaghetti sauce to use up some yellow tomatoes and while it tastes good it's a little screwy.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:05 AM
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But then I've never been to prison.

You're young yet, teo. Don't despair.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:05 AM
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And everything is better with bacon.

I thought you didn't like pork.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:05 AM
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I like bacon. It isn't really pork.

Pork is okay, but I currently have 20 pounds of it in my freezer, which may be more pork than I've ever eaten.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:08 AM
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Oh my, without having refreshed for half an hour, y'all sound like you're at the mercy of your food!

What RedFox said in 1: lentils concocted in various ways. You can make a ton of them reasonably quickly (an hour or so all told, if you're efficient, what with the dicing and chopping of things?) and use them variously through the week.

Or a few days in ogged's voracious case.

Redfoxtail, your link in 1 says something like "it's not the prettiest food" -- funny, as I was thinking as I looked at the pictures, Oh, how lovely.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:09 AM
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Ha ha!

pwned on the lentils!


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:10 AM
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Lentils for breakfast? Bah.

Just stick with the pita thing, and pre make some kind of protein filling in batches you can chuck in there in the morning. Chicken salad type mix can be good, diced up lean pork roast would be a good base for another, maybe another based on lean steak or something.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:11 AM
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20 pounds? Is this left over from your wedding reception or did you hit a pig with your car?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:15 AM
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I was coming to the conclusion that you disregard the entire thread myself. None of the options, save Lunchables, seem better than what you have going.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:16 AM
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If you're going with lentils, there's also yummy dahl.

Fry a metric shitload of garlic and freshly chopped green chillis, add cup of red lentils or split peas. Add chicken stock or water. Cook until turned into thick mush. Stir in a bit of garam masala.

Bob's yer uncle. Serve with bready stuffs.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:17 AM
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Do they make Breakfastables? That might be the answer.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:18 AM
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re: 196

Oh, aye, and add some turmeric.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:18 AM
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At the grocery store they sold what was basically a gigantic tube of pork loin for $2 a pound. I sliced it into 36 pork chops and a little bag of stir-fry material.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:18 AM
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199 I miss grocery shopping in Western PA.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:20 AM
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Is this left over from your wedding reception or did you hit a pig with your car?

Cala's finally putting those rifle skills to good use.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:20 AM
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a gigantic tube of pork loin

Mmmm, porktube.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:20 AM
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If Michael Pollen is to be believed, chickens raised on grass, worms, and grubs taste like animals ought to taste. It's the lifestyle of the factory-farmed chicken probably, more than its genes, that deprives it of flavor (and this unfortunately includes many organic or all-natural brands, including most likely Ogged's Whole Foods hockey pucks).


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:23 AM
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Ogged, have you tried Whole Foods' fresh-ground honey-roasted peanut butter? Because 2 mornings out of 3, my breakfast is a glob of that (or, actually, Fairway or Freshdirect brand) on an English muffin. Nice.

Or how about soy nut butter? (I know you said no more nuts but... well... soy nuts aren't really nuts. And nuts are good. In a non-metaphorical, non-dirty-pun, strictly food-oriented sense.)


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:27 AM
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Stir in a bit of garam masala.

Oh now, that will not do.

Heat some oil and add some whole cumin, whole coriander seeds, and mustard seeds (some torn up curry leaves are nice too). Fry until the seeds start to crack. Optional: add some chopped onion and fry until it's soft, also optional are the green chiles, or you can toss in some dried red chiles with the whole spices. Add your minced garlic, minced fresh ginger if you like it, a bit of turmeric and then the red lentils. Add salty water and cook until it's mush. OR you can wait until the end on the spices, but then you have to heat some oil in a separate small pan and heat the whole spices in there until they crack, then pour the spices and oil over the whole thing.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:27 AM
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Let's not make the perfect the enemy of the good, foxytail.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:28 AM
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One of my favorite breakfasts is ratatouille with a poached egg and grated gruyere on top, run under a broiler (which may sound snooty mcsnoot, but really, it's peasant food, just from a fabulously great food culture). A properly made pot of ratatouille isn't liquidy and can last for days. Also, reheats well. Substitute sausage for egg as a variant.


Posted by: goofyfoot | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:29 AM
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I mis-spelled Pollan. And made the baby Jesus cry.


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:29 AM
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It's the lifestyle of the factory-farmed chicken probably, more than its genes, that deprives it of flavor (and this unfortunately includes many organic or all-natural brands, including most likely Ogged's Whole Foods hockey pucks).

Partially. The breeding, though, is what makes them enormous compared to the chickens of 100 years ago. Meaning that each cubic inch of chicken contains comparatively less of what little flavor there is.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:30 AM
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206: Oh, well, I suppose.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:31 AM
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Ratatouille is not snooty mcsnoot at all. It's roasted friggin' vegetables.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:32 AM
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each cubic inch of chicken contains comparatively less of what little flavor there is.

I am in no position to judge whether this theory of flavor has any scientific merit. But it sounds hooey-ish.


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:32 AM
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re: 205

In no world that is good, and kind, and just, are fresh chillis an optional ingredient in dahl.

The actual Pakistani person with whom I've cooked dahl, didn't bother with coriander or cumin or mustard seeds and no indian/pakistani cookbook I've read includes them either (as a constituent part of the dahl).

Although, I agree, they are nice added at the end, as 'tarka'.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:34 AM
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I'm now imagining chickens being blown up like balloons so the flavor stretches like latex. I think it's more that the chickens have been bred to have gigantic breasts and to be lean, and all the flavor was in the fat.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:35 AM
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Just to recap here, we're looking for an easy to prepare, high protein, low cholesterol, non-dairy, non-nut, non-fish, foodstuff that doesn't taste like animal.

No wonder Ogged is so skinny.

I'll take Steak for $200 please.

The only answer is steak for breakfast. You can get ribeye for $6.98 a pound.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:36 AM
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I think it is a regional difference, whether they go in at the beginning or the end, but really, a pinch of garam masala?


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:38 AM
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I am very sad. My favorite Indian grocery is closing. So sad.


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The only answer is steak for breakfast. You can get ribeye for $6.98 a pound.

Costco is good for this sort of thing. I got some top sirloin yesterday, 3.99 a pound.


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I eat the same thing for breakfast every day and the same thing for lunch every day.

And the same thing for my afternoon snack.

I am Rain Man.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:40 AM
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Almost time for Wapner.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:41 AM
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Mostly, I'm just lazy and don't want to have to think about it.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:42 AM
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My exposure to Indian home cooking comes mainly from Uttar Pradesh, I believe (via a friend's mother).


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:42 AM
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Well, if there's one thing Rain Man had trouble with it was not thinking about it.


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We just do the very basic Indian dishes. Essentially, just adding spices to chicken and rice.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:44 AM
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My cheddar leek omelet was a scramble, and it was good, but not great. I think it needed more savoring.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:46 AM
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Back to the original post -- the protein is the thing. As far as I know, the options are: meat, beans, nuts, soy products.

(Ogged, dear, I will say you maybe can should think about some other things besides just protein, like iron, vitamins and minerals, you know. Vegetables.)

Here's a crazy thought: spend some spare bucks on a visit to a nutritionist. Maybe eating a lot of nuts isn't much of a problem, for example, given how fast your metabolism is, and how clean your system generally is.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:49 AM
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I am a fast machine, I keep my motor clean.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:50 AM
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Ogged is the best damn Persian that I've ever seen.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:51 AM
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The level of consistency in eating habits sounds alien to me. Even as a kid eating cereal for breakfast, I regularly would switch around between the kids' cereal (cheerios or the like) and the grown-up cereal (shredded wheat). I feel a little strange if I eat the same thing more then every few days.

Breakfast: fruit and granola, cold cereal, fried eggs and toast, hot cereal (weather permitting), any starchy leftovers...


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:51 AM
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225: Consider Emmenthaler or some other variety of Swiss next time -- goes very well with leeks. Also delicious with leeks: potatoes.

205, 213, et al.: There are many varieties of dal, with variations on the type and timing of spices, IME. Pouring the oil over it at the end with the cumin seeds is delicious. (Is that what "tarka" means, ttaM?)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:55 AM
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You left me with "He told me to come, but I was already there."?!?!???!?!! Thanks a lot.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:55 AM
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The level of consistency in eating habits sounds alien to me

Likewise. Freaks.

Sure, I eat roughly the same things over time, but please not every day.

I bet you all use the same shampoo every day too.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:58 AM
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Goat cheese goes perfectly with leeks, too.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:02 PM
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Goat cheese goes perfectly with wine, too.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:04 PM
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I have 100,000 different types of shampoo, one for each hair on my head. Shame I can no longer bathe, as they take up all of the room in my shower.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:06 PM
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Mmm, goat cheese.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:15 PM
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one for each hair on my head

Yes, and so with food: those who disdain gristle on their meat: sissy. Those who grimace at liverwurst for breakfast: fey. Those who poo-poo puy lentils (whatever the fuck those are): Nascar.


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233 reminds me. Dinner: warm salad of a mix of whatever veg are in season (leeks are especially good), steamed and dressed while still hot with oil, vinegar, honey and a few herbs. Then stir chopped up goats cheese into the mix to melt, and eat with good bread. Food of the gods - we had it as a starter in Spain a few years ago and reconstructed it as a standby.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:24 PM
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I'm going to let you in on a little secret, Becks: K-Mart sucks.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:26 PM
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Those who poo-poo puy lentils (whatever the fuck those are)

Appropriately, they're the ones that look like mouse shit.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:29 PM
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My brain doesn't work well enough in the morning to ask it to make choices about what to eat for breakfast.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:29 PM
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So, O, if you want the same thing every day and you like chicken breast, then the mayo's the only problem, right? So why not make a different kind of chicken salad, like an Italian-style with olive oil instead of mayo, and maybe some onion, capers, olives and herbs? You could make a week's worth every Sunday. Totally easy. Problem solved.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:30 PM
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205, 213, et al.: There are many varieties of dal, with variations on the type and timing of spices, IME.

Well, yes. I was just being bitchity.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:30 PM
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why not make a different kind of chicken salad, like an Italian-style with olive oil instead of mayo...

Or, how about 7 different chicken salads, one for each day of the week? Wrap them up in your underwear, so you can keep track.


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:36 PM
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Wouldn't that make walking to work unpleasantly squishy?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:37 PM
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Wouldn't that make walking to work unpleasantly squishy?

That's one way to make it taste like (m)animal.


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:44 PM
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There are many varieties of dal

According to the Cook's Thesaurus

channa dal = chana dal = gram dal With their sweet and nutty flavor, these are the most popular dal in India.. . They're a dull yellow and are renowned for causing flatulence.

Ogg's colleagues thank you. Not.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:45 PM
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Channa dal are hulled split chickpeas.
Masoor dal are hulled split red lentils.
Moong dal are hulled split moong beans.
Urad dal are hulled split urad, or "black lentils".

And so on. But there are also many different ways to season and prepare them, which is what I was being sort of silly about.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:48 PM
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OT: Man, my new secretary is a pleasure. And Junior's being useful, too.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:52 PM
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Stop letting Whole Foods oppress you, Ogged. $9/lb chicken is bullshit.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:53 PM
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And Junior's being useful, too.

So the talk went well?


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 12:56 PM
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Mollie Stone's is not much better than Whole Foods IME.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:14 PM
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There wasn't so much a talk -- I just bounced a series of sloppy things back to him with how I wanted them fixed, and new assignments seem to be getting somewhat less sloppy. Still sloppyish, but improving, and he's getting substantive answers pretty briskly.


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248 reminds me of a bit from The Specialist's Hat, which I read on Husband X's recommendation this morning.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:20 PM
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252: Maybe mine is just particularly good? Stone's certainly has a wide selection of chi-chi lifestyle branded premium stuff that's supposed to say something about you as a person, but unlike Whole Foods (last I checked) that wasn't the entire point of the place, and you could get Cinnamon Toast Crunch, these really horrible frozen pizza rolls I love, and chicken that was considerably cheaper than $9/lb. By contrast, the cereal section at WF was this barren wasteland of strange brands that seem calculated to be the precise opposite of sugary breakfast cereals. They aren't just not sugary breakfast cereals, they are the garlic to the predatory Cereal Industry vampires preying on little Caitlin and Ian.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:30 PM
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Y'all check the prices at your local grocery for boneless, skinless chicken breasts and get back to me.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:43 PM
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boneless, skinless chicken breasts

Come on Ogged. It's not that hard to cut a whole chicken into pieces. You must get over your distaste for dark meat.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:44 PM
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You know, the Whole Foods in Brookline has some kind of pillow-shaped chocolate cereal with chocolate centers. How can this be?

Jesus is right about the different style of chicken salad. If you put a little fruit in it (grapes are good) you can tell critics of your breakfast food policy that this is breakfast salad.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:45 PM
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256: $7/lb for the most chi-chi at Stone's, about $5.50 for the non-chi-chi. Safeway is $6/lb for the high end, $6.50 if they slice it thin (I forgo this service), and down to $3-#3.50 for the valu-pak.

Oggedville: fucking lame.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:47 PM
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And if you can get over having to deal with skin, you pansy, you can take about a buck off, at any quality level.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:48 PM
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strange brands that seem calculated to be the precise opposite of sugary breakfast cereals

If only. A striking proportion of these cereals contain "dehydrated cane juice" as a major ingredient.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:48 PM
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"Sugary" is not the only problem with mainstream breakfast cereals.

The Whole Foods here has some good granola, but I shudder to think how much it costs by comparison with the bulk granola at the Co-Op (which is not that cheap itself).

Speaking of Whole Foods, my cheese experiments have led me to mostly good cheeses, but so far there are two types I completely dislike. It's reassuring to know that I don't just like everything.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:52 PM
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It takes me that long to cut up a couple of breasts (though I confess to being incredibly picky about defatting and degristling the meat).

You start with boneless, skinless breasts and then defat and degristle? I take back what I said about you being raised by wolves.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:53 PM
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Skinny, nervous, finicky wolves who get upset when one part of the dead caribou touches another part of it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:54 PM
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Ogged: high-maintenance.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:55 PM
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You know what's really fucking easy to make? Granola.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:57 PM
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Ogged was raised by flowers.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:57 PM
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I can't believe nobody's suggested a half-pound of healthy bacon. Super easy, very high protein, always delicious!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:58 PM
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I don't know how to make food. I plan to learn when I don't feel guilty about spending more than 10 hours a day away from the laboratory.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:58 PM
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Yeah, if you choose to lower yourself to use grain other people have grown and harvested, foxy, you sellout.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:58 PM
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268: I can't believe nobody's suggested a half-pound of healthy bacon. Super easy, very high protein, always delicious!

For a portable, tasty variation, take some other kind of food, and wrap it in the bacon!


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:59 PM
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Well, Brock was close, but too fruity.


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271: take some other kind of food, and wrap it in the bacon!

Like, say, bacon!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 1:59 PM
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Store-bought granola is fine, too -- just if the price overwhelms you, be a sellout like me.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:01 PM
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A mystery, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in bacon, deep-fried and put in a pita with just a dab of mayonnaise.

Solved!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:02 PM
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Nobody suggested granola before?

great idea. Plus, there are lots of varieties. Mix in pumpkin seeds, cranberries, or bits of bacon.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:03 PM
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Ogged beats up granolas.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:04 PM
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Ogged, of all people, is not going to go for granola.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:05 PM
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I like granola.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:06 PM
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Back on the veldt, really picky, fussy, whiny carrion eaters lived longer.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:06 PM
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I have no idea why, particularly, but I'm actually weeping with laughter at 275.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:06 PM
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The "stuff dipped in yogurt" genre is pretty good for early morning protein, though, if you're the type who's liable to puke up greasy things on an empty stomache.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:08 PM
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Granola is going to get you mocked less than if you eat beefy jerky every morning.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:09 PM
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But did they have successful offspring, Emerson?

Yogurt-dipped penises make for a pretty good breakfast, I've heard.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:09 PM
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w-lfs-n, are you hitting on me?


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:10 PM
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Bacon makes me cry sometimes, too.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:10 PM
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The "stuff dipped in yogurt" genre is pretty good for early morning protein

Or for afternoon delight.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:10 PM
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283: jerky and gatorade is a heck of a tasty breakfast on a hot day.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:11 PM
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the type who's liable to puke up greasy things on an empty stomache

Bacon wussy.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:12 PM
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only sorta, Lunar. If you want to try it out sometime, though, I'd be happy to put my penis at your disposal.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:12 PM
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Has anyone suggested scrapple yet?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:12 PM
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Why would you dip it in scrapple, will?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:13 PM
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I was quite close to eating a large amount of scrapple about fifteen minutes ago. Still might do it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:14 PM
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290: "at" s/b "in"

291: Do you mean in this thread or in the history of humanity? In either case the answer is no.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:14 PM
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If that answers your question, Stanley.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:14 PM
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I would not at all be happy to put my penis in anyone's garbage disposal.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:16 PM
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296: Even so fine a model as the In-Sink-Erator 2000?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:18 PM
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Too buff and burly. I want a more sensitive spinning-blade death contraption.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:20 PM
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Y'all check the prices at your local grocery for boneless, skinless chicken breasts and get back to me.
$6.29/lb was the most expensive I could find at the local Whole Foods. Even there, most of it was more like $4.59/lb.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:28 PM
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$6.29/lb was the most expensive I could find at the local Whole Foods.

Ogged only gets the ones stuffed with yellowcake uranium.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:30 PM
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Squirrel brains in scrambled eggs is traditional in some parts of the country. It takes decades for the prions to take over your brain -- live in the now!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:30 PM
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In Elgin, N.D. duck costs $.19 a pound.

If you were to raise ducks in North Dakota you could buy a house for each of your ducks.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:36 PM
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i didn't read this thread but unless you have some other indicatino, eggs aren't a problem for cholesterol.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:36 PM
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Y'all check the prices at your local grocery for boneless, skinless chicken breasts and get back to me.

Freshdirect in Brooklyn ranges from $2.49/lb (conventional, boneless, in quantity) to $6.99/lb (organic, boneless skinless, thin cut). Are you buying heirloom, pastured birds, Ogged?


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:42 PM
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So maybe there's a reason my mom gasps whenever we go grocery shopping around here. What the hell?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:50 PM
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You realize that most people don't get "complimentary" handjobs with their chicken purchases, right, ogged?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:55 PM
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It's the complimentary pack of chicken breasts he gets when he drops in at the massage parlor that's really confusing.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:56 PM
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It all depends on what the meaning of "chicken" is.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:57 PM
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Hm. I never found shopping in the Bay Area to be prohibitively expensive (though it's true I wasn't buying meat). I shopped mainly at the Monterey Market and the Berkeley farmer's market, and the cheese and coffee shop around the corner from Monterey Market, supplemented by forays to Andronicos.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 2:58 PM
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Oggedville has insane grocery prices because it's the most suburby of the SF suburbs; it has absolutely no personality or character. $9/lb chicken is what you get in return for your comparitive lack of homeless people and grunge. Check out Daly City or San Bruno for a good comparison.


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Whereas, for example, the nearest WF to me is conveniently located in a grungy strip mall near a transformer yard, train tracks, an office park complex, and the largest local public housing projects.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:02 PM
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$9/lb chicken is what you get in return for your comparitive lack of homeless people and grunge.

Probably right, and, in that case, totally worth it.


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310, 312 - I will forevermore imagine you as roaming the streets of Pleasanton, crying out for $4/lb. chicken and hott women. BUT THERE WILL BE NONE FOR YOU IN OGGEDVILLE, SIR.

(If my mental image of Oggedville corresponds to actual Oggedville, please redact.)


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:10 PM
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Seriously, though, have you tried the ethnic groceries? Most of the people I know who live(d) in Oggedville were Chinese, one of whom specifically thought of the ethnic groceries as a big, big plus and one of the reasons why he moved there.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:12 PM
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Ogged was raised by flowers.

Oh, god, this made me laugh uproariously, a shouted-out laugh, even.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:13 PM
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crying out for $4/lb. chicken and hott women

God, so true. Whenever I go into the city, it's "Holy shit, hot young people live here!"


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:16 PM
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But they're all liberals. You hate them, yet you desire them.

Maddening, isn't it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:19 PM
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Ogged lives in oggedville to avoid the "ethnics", Rocky.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:20 PM
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yeah ethnic places are great.

i get sprouts for a dollar for a big bag, lots of tea selection, lots of the unusual ingrediants obiously, tomatos for half the price of english markets and limes for 25c.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:20 PM
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9$ chicken!??!

i buy boneless skinless thighs for 1$ a pound.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:21 PM
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What about something falafel-y? Chick peas would be proteiny, right?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:22 PM
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Isn't ogged's life boneless {zing!} enough without all of this advice-giving? People, seriously: it's unkind to rub it in.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 3:23 PM
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Man, my new secretary is a pleasure.

LB, I'd have thought a lawyer would be more careful about opening oneself to a sexual harrassment suit.


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318: Ogged lives in oggedville to avoid the "ethnics", Rocky.

Yeah, I was actually just discussing this, and compiling a list of various pairs of suburbs where one has this reputation for being "cheaper" and "nicer" because it's not as "yuppie" (read: liberal, yuppie, tolerant of ethnics), but in the end, you pay a Whitebread Premium to live there because there's not as much of a range and little tolerance of grungy folk.


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323: I am always careful about opening myself.


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324:

Huh, I was about to write that perhaps the categories (of suburb) are a little different on the east coast.

But wading through the weighted language in 324, yes, I see. Sort of.


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Lunar has a lot of opinions about where I live, but I'm not sure she's spent much time here.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 4:06 PM
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Isn't ogged's life boneless {zing!} enough without all of this advice-giving? People, seriously: it's unkind to rub it in.

Surely you're not thinking this will make them stop.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 4:20 PM
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Ooh, I want some falafel now. Thanks, Becks.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 4:25 PM
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Lunar has a lot of opinions about where I live, but I'm not sure she's spent much time here.

Does hanging out there socially a great deal while simultaneously really disliking it count?


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 7:47 PM
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Wait, you hang out there socially? That's worse than living there, honky!


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I am not a good cook. Can we have a meetup at one of the houses of one of the people who does cook or in some public kitchen so that we can all cook together.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 8:07 PM
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http://simplybreakfast.blogspot.com/


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332: We could meet up in my kitchen sometime. I'd like to see it used for the purpose for which it was intended, just the once.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:51 PM
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I can only grill. And cook scrapple, obviously.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 9:54 PM
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"cook scrapple, obviously" s/b "cock scrapple, obviously"

Obviously.


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292 to 336, obviously.


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everyone's invited to a cooking class/meetup at my house!!! you'll have to leave the drugs at home, though. american chickens are bland and repulsive; the 'kampung' (village) chickens we get here that run around outside are incredibly tasty, though smaller. but you can just cook two if you want chicken that bad. I have to say that the idea of cooking enough chicken salad for the whole week is fatally flawed; chicken salad is good for 3 days tops. ditto roast beef. I think ogged should alternate; cold roast beef (maybe with sauteed onions and peppers) for 3 days, then tarragon chicken salad with walnuts and halved grapes the other days. I eat the same thing for breakfast every day, with minor variations. either 3 pieces of whole wheat toast or two english muffins. I eat the buttery insides out and then eat about a half jar of jam carefully positioned on the crusts.


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Man, if I was anywhere within 1500 miles of SEACSX in any direction, I would eat rice soup for breakfast every day without fail.

I've been dreaming about that stuff.

Also: banana pancake!


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I eat the buttery insides out

If AWB were here, should would call you uncreative.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:22 PM
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banana pancake!

Bananancake!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:22 PM
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What's an n-cake?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:23 PM
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A cake of arbitrary dimension.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:24 PM
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Break me off some of that, in accordance with the rules governing the equal sectioning of n-dimensional solids!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:26 PM
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A cake of arbitrary dimension.

Or a cake of arbitrary composition, no?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:27 PM
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340: I AM here, and should would nothing.

When have I ever eaten the buttery insides out of something?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 10:58 PM
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Jesus Christ, 6 gets it exactly right.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:19 PM
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I have never in my life paid $9 a pound for skinless, boneless, chicken breast. Prices range from $2.50 or so for a family pack on sale to about $6ish for non-store brand, usually about $4.50 - $5. I might pay $6.50 in a pinch but I think I'd balk at $7 and change my recipe.

I am not conscientious about organic free range kosher what not, which could raise the price. But I used to be able to buy pretty decent steak for $9 a pound at the Whole Foods in Cambridge.

If breakfasty is no object, you could do a black bean & corn tortilla thing, which is cheap, healthy, & very tasty. (It would also help to have a food processor). I have a really easy recipe w/ canned chipotle peppers which is great (but I'm not going to bother looking up unless requested).


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:25 PM
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For ogged's price per pound for chicken, I'd surely expect a whole, organic, free-range chicken with giblets, dammit. I would roast it for company one night, make sandwiches the next couple of days, maybe shred it for salads, then I'd boil the carcass for stock (mmm, stock).

I used some such stock last night in a sauce de Bercy, and I only wish I had some left for tonight's sauce au chasseur. I'm going through a serious traditional French sauce phase.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:57 PM
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If I were getting a whole chicken with organs—that is, one which had had basically as little work as possible done on it by way of cleaning, etc, to increase the price—and were still paying $9/lb, I would expect it to grant me at least one wish if I agreed not to cook it.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:59 PM
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Also, JM, if you can roast a chicken for company and still have enough for sandwiches for the next couple of days, you either don't know very many people or they're all thinner than you.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-07 11:59 PM
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347: The cigarette-and-coffee routine works for some people, but in others -- say, someone whose reviled ex was a roll-out-of-bed-and-light-up smoker -- it may produce only a sense of horror. 6 did remind me of this, however.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 12:13 AM
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I serve other things! Like potatoes! Leeks! Exciting rice thingumabobs! Okay, I don't know very many people.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 12:13 AM
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The best part of the Sartre cookbook is a throwaway line in the very beginning: Spoke with Camus today about my cookbook. Though he has never actually eaten, ….


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 12:16 AM
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re: 230

Yes.

http://www.theepicentre.com/Recipes/itarkdal.html

The way the tarka is done there is similar to most of the Indian cookbooks I have [I have about half a dozen of them*].

* not that I am some uber-expert on Indian cooking, I just have a lot of cookbooks ...


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 12:26 AM
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BTW, w-lfs-n, don't you want the organs? It's so disappointing when one pays for a whole chicken and they've gone and absconded with the organs. I coulda made yummy gravy! I coulda made salade au gesiers!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 12:28 AM
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Oh, yeah, of course one wants the organs. But the fact that no one's taken the time to remove them means less labor for which to pay.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 12:39 AM
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Can you buy live chickens by at the pound?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 12:40 AM
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334: Thanksgiving at mcmc's!


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:04 AM
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Walnut butter, blue cheese, and some chestnut honey on wholegrain toast - I know Ogged says sandwiches can't travel, but this is different.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:49 PM
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I found a place with $9/lb boneless skinless chicken breasts: Mollie Stone's at Fillmore & California. However! They also had several cheaper (though really, not much cheaper) options.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-25-07 3:20 PM
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Thanks for reminding me, ben.

Boneless skinless chicken breasts at Whole Foods here: there's one type for $4.69, one for $6.29, and one for $6.99.

Bone-in skinless chicken breasts are $3.99.

Further updates after I've gone to the regular supermarket and checked there.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-25-07 3:22 PM
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/lb


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-25-07 3:26 PM
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