Re: You blog sixteen tons and what do you get?

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If you click through from his comments to his old blogspot site, you can see that even in *2002* he was doing "Hmm, Instapundit sound surprisingly right-wing" posts.

But five years? Yeah, it feels that long. Every day it feels that long.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 1:45 PM
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Heh. At only slightly over a year, I've been out of ideas for months now.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 1:46 PM
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My 5-year thing was in May. Here's the corpus, more or less.


Posted by: Kieran | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 1:49 PM
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As a long-time mostly lurker I savor the remembrance of Unf and Bob posts of the past...


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 1:51 PM
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1: "years" s/b "inches"


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:00 PM
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I remember political animal. My reading in those days was Hesiod, Delong, JMM, Neiwert. I think I started with Gilliard later that year. Lots of others, but those were the big ones.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:01 PM
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So Unf and Bob actually existed? They aren't just an "and Associates" ploy to make it seem like someone other than ogged is involved?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:02 PM
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Unf commented on LB's "Junior" thread last friday.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:03 PM
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6: Perhaps you do, but at that time it was Calpundit.

I remember reading the Nathan Newman blog all the time. I thought that and TPM were the two main liberal blogs.

Also Bartcop and Democratic Underground. That's good stuff for a 16-year-old.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:06 PM
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Unf commented on LB's "Junior" thread last friday.

The hilarious anachronism is more how they are the #1 and #3 contributors listed on the left side of the screen. Unf being the equivalent of Kim Il-Sung who I believe still holds the highest government office in North Korea.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:12 PM
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Right, I got them mixed up. I don't read the WM anymore. I remember Newman, but didn't read there much. I know I go back, well beyond the Summer of Gary Condit with Marshall. Yes, at least 2000. I used to read Mickey Kaus in those days.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:14 PM
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I don't read the WM anymore

It hasn't been any good since I stopped posting there.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:19 PM
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The hilarious anachronism is more how they are the #1 and #3 contributors listed on the left side of the screen.

The list of contributors is in chronological order.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:27 PM
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august must be a popular month. my five-year blogging anniversary is next week. and clearly i have contribute just as much to the world as kevin drum.


Posted by: catherine | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:32 PM
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Fuck if I can remember that far back. I remember ObsWi getting started from Tacitus, but I was visiting Yglesias and Calpundit before that. I was bitching about politics on my chess server on 9/11, but I can't remember how & when I discovered the blogs.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:37 PM
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I liked Nathan a lot. He was the only labor blogger, except for the OSHA dude. And Andy Stern.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:39 PM
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3: Holy user-friendly archives, Batman. Nice.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:39 PM
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It hasn't been any good since I stopped posting there.

It s/b the hecklers


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:39 PM
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When was the last time you blogged about beer?


Posted by: swampcracker | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:40 PM
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Bartcop deserves more credit.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 2:43 PM
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My fourth anniversary was July 1 of this year -- I completely forgot about it. Before that, I had been reading blogs for about a year, starting with Tom Tomorrow (through his cartoons at Salon), then branching out from there. I think I first came to Unfogged through one of Holbo's posts on philosophy, strangely enough. Ogged seemed to be defending someone (Derrida? Heidegger?) from Holbo's typical calumnies.

Unfogged: Come for the continental philosophy, stay for the... um....


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:21 PM
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duration.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:23 PM
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end of days.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:23 PM
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veal.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:25 PM
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But seriously, now that I'm thinking about this -- I came into this like one year after the big names. The Weblog is actually a little older than Crooked Timber. Where did I go wrong? Why am I not being paid to blog for the New Left Review or something?

Maybe I should take this up with NLR itself, rather than Unfogged commenters.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:26 PM
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We could probably get you featured in Salon.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:28 PM
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Why am I not being paid to blog for the New Left Review or something?

Because you give the impression you'd be offended if they ask?


Posted by: SEK | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:30 PM
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I think I arrived here via Bitch, but it coulda been Crooked Timber. Although I read Drum from Calpundit days, I don't think I got here via Ogged's guest stint.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:32 PM
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Here from Bitch, in turn from Pandagon, which I had read back in the Jesse Taylor days.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:34 PM
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27: You know what? I've heard that from dozens of small leftist journals, and I frankly don't know what I'm doing that gives them that impression. I guess it's true that I don't come on too strong, but that's because I'm afraid of creeping out journals, not because I'm not interested.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:35 PM
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All I remember from Ogged's stint with the Washington Monthly blog was some sort of complaint about eggs.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:37 PM
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I'm blanking on the name of the first blog I read. It had a single column center, with black to the sides. Clay Sharkey, David Hudson, and that Robin Miller guy who went on to /. were the regular posters, 97-98.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:37 PM
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Adam, you should constantly remind people that you blogged about [X] first, and much more thoughtfully. I've heard that works like a charm.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:37 PM
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Every time I think to do that, Gary Farber cock-blocks me. And to add insult to injury, he was the first to blog about this very phenomenon!


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:39 PM
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There are many paths to the waterfall.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:41 PM
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. Although I read Drum from Calpundit days, I don't think I got here via Ogged's guest stint.

Ouch.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:44 PM
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Adam, probably you've been blowing the wrong people. One wrongly-placed BJ actually can cancel out several well-calculated BJs.

Political Football and I have just been arguing with two most amazing idiots at Galt / McMegan's "Atlantic" site. They don't see why a libertarian should care about habeas corpus.

McMegan's coterie apparently didn't follow her over to her new site. Or very few of them, anyway, and not the smartest ones.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:44 PM
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One wrongly-placed BJ actually can cancel out several well-calculated BJs.

I would never give a blow job to someone who called it a "BJ." I mean, B ruled out hygiene, so....


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:48 PM
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Well, good. I wasn't soliciting you, Tim.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:49 PM
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Clay Shirky, and it was Rewired.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:50 PM
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39: You could do worse. (You should do better, but that's exactly what's at issue.)


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:51 PM
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I was wasting time reading blogs at work ten years ago


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:57 PM
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My first political blog was Josh Marshall in autumn 02. I first discovered Unfogged through Mark Schmitt's sidebar. It was so short I was bound to click on the links sooner or later. This was before the first 100+ thread count.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 3:59 PM
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Oh, and the first weblog I followed was Raphael Carter's back in early 98.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:03 PM
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I first started reading blogs in spring 2004, just after the primaries. First TPM, then slowly branching out to others linked from there. Over the course of the election season I began to read Daily Kos in particular more and more obsessively, and spent much of election day following results there. (That was a bad idea.) After the election I got kind of burned out on political blogs and gradually stopped reading them over the next few months. Then in August of 2005 I discovered Unfogged, and the rest is history.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:03 PM
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McMegan's coterie apparently didn't follow her over to her new site. Or very few of them, anyway, and not the smartest ones.

I'm actually feeling sort of bad for her over the pile-on. Not that I'm not also piling.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:05 PM
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A sentence that's actually been spoken to me: "Can't I just give you a BJ?"

I said no, out of principle. The rest of you are weak.

I think Insty was the first blog I read. Or maybe Kaus. Whatever it was, I'm pretty sure I got there through Slate.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:08 PM
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My first blog, also located at waste.typepad.com, was started over four years ago. Bizarre.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:08 PM
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I'm not sure how I found Unfogged. Maybe CharleyCarp. Blame him.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:08 PM
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I said no, out of principle. The rest of you are weak.

I didn't have sex with a hot dancer in college out of some misguided principle. What a fool I was.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:09 PM
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I would sign on late at night using a 9600 baud modem in '98. There was a 16bit version of 386 that would run windows 3.1., and I would open aol, then netscape, I think. 4megs of ram.

Just looked at some of those posts now.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:10 PM
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I think Insty was the first blog I read. Or maybe Kaus.

This explains so much.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:10 PM
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Back then, Insty was AG Android. Before your time, kid.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:11 PM
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I don't remember how I got onto blogs. I started with stuff online reading Salon and Slate in 2000, and got into Salon's forum during the recount -- lurking, not posting. I then started posting in a forum that spun off from Salon's, and that took me through, maybe, winter 2003? when I got sick of it and quit. Sometime in then, I'd started reading blogs -- might have started through Atrios, but I don't remember how I got to Atrios.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:11 PM
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I haven't the slightest clue how I started reading this blog, and it was onyl about 10 minutes ago, relatively speaking. Clearly it's rotting my brain.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:11 PM
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I know I communicated w/ Kaus on election day 2000 and so did my brother-in-law. Kaus dithered all day and finally voted for Gore.

That's a long time ago.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:12 PM
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I didn't have sex with a hot dancer in college out of some misguided principle.

Never show your cock to someone who'll laugh at it? Seems sound.

We could have "sex I really regret turning down" thread. But we'd have to find something for apo to do.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:13 PM
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I started my first weblog in 2000. Lord.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:14 PM
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47.2: BJ's aren't even sex. You're crazy.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:15 PM
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The principle was "don't give anyone who uses 'BJ' unironically anything they want."


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:16 PM
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A real life friend ran a now defunct small potatoes political blog. Unfogged was on the blog roll.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:17 PM
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A sentence that's actually been spoken to me: "Can't I just give you a BJ?"

I said no, out of principle. The rest of you are weak.

But, you did pay him for washing your windshield, right?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:17 PM
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That's actually funny, Will.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:18 PM
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You know what would be a great niche? A blog about small potatoes. Not all potatoes; just the small ones.

The principle was "don't give anyone who uses 'BJ' unironically anything they want."

Right, but you could still accept it without giving them anything.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:19 PM
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Even a blind pig can find an acorn.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:19 PM
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Right, but you could still accept it without giving them anything.

Racist.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:20 PM
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Does anyone else remember when Slate had a page of blogs featuring Marshall and Kaus, among others? Probably in 2001. It was back before the term "blog" was in common use - Slate called them "me-zines". I remember when Instapundit spun off from the Fray, so I could claim to have read it from the beginning, if I still read it.

Like David Weman I discovered Unfogged from someone's blogroll - it may well have been Schmitt's. I remember the description of it as "a two-person blog is a great idea", dating it to before group blogs were common and to when Unf and/or Bob still had a more than exiguous presence. But it took me quite a while to get it, since I hadn't found much worth reading in the comments to other blogs.


Posted by: Basil Valentine | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:24 PM
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It was back before the term "blog" was in common use - Slate called them "me-zines".

It wasn't, really, Slate's editors were just on drugs.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:25 PM
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Racist.

Really? I thought it was sexist / homophobic.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:26 PM
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Basil, that was Kaus's blogroll--it was at the bottom of his page. And yes, that was Schmitt's tag for Unfogged.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:26 PM
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How did Ogged kick out Unf and Bob?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:28 PM
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Actually, the whole tag was something like "a two person blog is a great idea, and they were among the first to link to me." Which is another way of saying, "I'm trying to be nice, but there's no redeeming content there." I found Schmitt through DeLong.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:28 PM
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So -- is FL with Elvis?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:29 PM
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Iranian pheromones.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:29 PM
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What got me reading Unfogged:

A two-person blog is a great idea, and this is the very clever product of "Unf" and "ogged." Plus, their friend Bob, which gives the whole thing a Kevin Smith feel. It's a great blog all around, but now that Unf is back, they're hitting on all cylinders. Plus, they were among the first to link to me.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:33 PM
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My memory is charmingly modest.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:36 PM
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Ogged, everything about you is.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:40 PM
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Now you're just speculating.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:41 PM
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78: Given your principles, that seems to be all he can do.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:42 PM
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Many women find the modest less intrusive and distracting.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:43 PM
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"modest ones"


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:44 PM
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Sorry to hijack, but this would appear to perhaps warrant a post or somethingt:

http://machinist.salon.com/feature/2007/08/22/fishbowl_bots/


Posted by: orangatan | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:44 PM
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Ah, orangatan, so young, so foolish.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:45 PM
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Been done, Orang, but it was taken down because of privacy considerations. Long story.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:45 PM
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Thanks, Orangatan. We had a post up about it last night, but took it down because the comments were inviting people to try to figure out some identities. You can see Catherine and Kriston's thanks to the bots here.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:47 PM
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Ah. It did seem odd that it would need to be pointed out.

Looks like I missed all the fun.


Posted by: orangatan | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:55 PM
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FWIW, the link to the comments on that post is still valid. (I got it out of the RSS feed.)


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:55 PM
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Yeah, I know. That's fine.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:55 PM
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I found Schmitt through DeLong aussi.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 4:58 PM
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I thought we were talking about Ogged's penis.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:01 PM
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We could have "sex I really regret turning down" thread.

And yet, you still persist in disapproving of the slutty chicks. Silly Ogged.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:07 PM
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I'm reasonably sure Ogged will agree that slutty chicks make the world a better place.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:15 PM
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But he doesn't want them posting here. Also, he wants to believe that the slutty chick with him is a virgin.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:17 PM
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82: Over a thousand words of sorrowful head-shaking about the tragic rigging of hotness contests. I've wasted my time on dumber things, admittedly, but Jesus.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:17 PM
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92: He will, but he still disapproves of us. Ask him.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:18 PM
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We're all in this together, DS. Get down off your high horse. Wasting time is what we do best.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:18 PM
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Are you a virgin, B? That's something I've always wanted to ask you.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:19 PM
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Why didn't you ask me at dinner the other night, then? Hmm?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:21 PM
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Another gay blogger/and online incest?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:22 PM
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95: Surely the "slutty" designation exists to provide the pleasures of disapproval. Otherwise the women in question would just be promiscuous.

96: What if I want to waste the time on my high horse, smart guy? Didn't think of that, didja?


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:22 PM
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In front of all those people?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:25 PM
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I was amazed at the seriousness of the Salon comentors. It was too trivial to bother with, but not too trivial to be indignant about.

They were nasty about Catherine, but I presume she can take the heat.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:27 PM
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101: You should have the courage of your convictions, Mr. Emerson.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:32 PM
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I wanted to ask in a more intimate setting, but someone stood me up. I always check virginities tete-a-tete.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:33 PM
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104: If by "stood you up" you mean "stood waiting for a bus for almost an hour," then yeah, I did.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:34 PM
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I guess I'll never know then.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:37 PM
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A girl has to retain some mystery.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:38 PM
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Your seeming purity and wholesomeness may mask a dark past.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:39 PM
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You've seen my high school graduation picture. My past was even more pure and wholesome than my present.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:41 PM
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Well, that's a whole shitload of purity and wholesomeness there.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:42 PM
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You're just horrified, aren't you?


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Yeah, a critical mass of purity and wholesome can really wreak havoc. Good thing you're back in your San Fernando homeland.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:45 PM
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Um, not so much from San Fernando, actually.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:46 PM
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The word "blog" is hideous, but in the presence of "me-zines" it becomes "cellar door".


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:46 PM
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Whoops. I wasn't trying to be malicious or anything. By no means.


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Not at all. I'm from someplace that's commonly considered much worse.


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Failure of my imagination. Compton, I suppose.


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Tacoma?


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San Bernardino?


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Fresno.


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Madera (the one place people from Fresno are glad that they aren't from, according to Brian Kenney Fresno).


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"The place that's north of Fresno where people are willing to settle for just a little bit less".

He has a song about it, "Ma Dog, Ma Truck, Madera".


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Manteca.


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Barstow?


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Manayunk?


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If B was from Barstow or Bakersfield she'd be shitkickinger than she is.


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Big Bone, Kentucky?


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Alabama?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:58 PM
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Needles.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:58 PM
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My folks are from Bakersfield, actually (Mom's from Shafter) and I spent quite a bit of time there growing up, as it happens, Mr. Emerson. I'm more shitkicking than you think I am.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 5:59 PM
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Yeehaw.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:00 PM
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That should be the lyric in that Buck Owens song: How many of you that sit and judge B. / Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:02 PM
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Actually, being from Bakersfield make your craziness seem more rooted and ethnic and less postmodern and ideological. Everyone from there is crazy, right? (Authentically, and not something they learned in school.)

You should dress the part, though.


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I love that song, Slack.

I'm not actually from Bfield, I'm sorry to say. But yeah, my craziness is totally rooted and ethnic. But every time I point this out y'all line up behind Teo--Teo, of all people--to make fun of my pretensions.

I do occasionally change clothes, even.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:10 PM
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Get the shitkicker boots, the tight jeans, and the cowgirl shirt. You'd slay people.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:13 PM
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Sadly, the jeans thing isn't so great on me since that whole kid and gaining weight combination. Goddammit.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:20 PM
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OK, a lot of petticoats and a swirly dress.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:21 PM
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Um, no.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:22 PM
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Party-pooper.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:23 PM
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Buck was the man.

If I've ever lined up behind Teo, I must've been drunk. I deny everything.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:24 PM
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(Not to say that Teo isn't a great guy, mind you.)


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:25 PM
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Kotsko's was the first blog I ever read, and got here through it. Which is why it's only fitting I should insult him in this thread.*

*Didn't mean my comment to be insulting, however.


Posted by: SEK | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:41 PM
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I recall making fun of the whole concept of blogs in '97 or '98 or whenever the word got coined. I read slashdot and dailyrotten, which seemed like the same damn thing. I recall being very disturbed when I realized one of the founders of blogger was the older (non-techie, so far as I knew) sibling of one of my best friends in elementary school. I was highly embarrassed when cDc started a (seemingly completely late to the game) blog in, oh, 2002 or something. I didn't start reading political blogs until 2003 or something like that, and was tickled to realize that Atrios regularly linked to one written by an old friend of mine. The rest is... boring.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:45 PM
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What the: I must not have refreshed this thread for about seven hours, I'm so behind the times. 143 to last week.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 6:49 PM
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142: Really? How the hell did you find me of all people?!


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 7:36 PM
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Looking for Costco.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 7:39 PM
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I've gotten back proofs of articles where my name is spelled Kostko. It infuriates me every fucking time.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 7:40 PM
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My internal pronunciation of your name is "Kotsuko," as if you were Japanese. Is that any better?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 7:41 PM
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I don't understand why. Low prices, high quality, pretty good selection.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 7:44 PM
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Have you tried the theology there, John? It's awful.


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You just have to cook it right.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 7:51 PM
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Costco stocks "President's Choice" theology. No matter how you cook it, something will always go horribly wrong.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 7:52 PM
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Costco is union where they took over old Price Clubs.

Price as in Sam Price, btw, not as in cost.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 7:53 PM
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Wrongshore, I love your cellar door reference, way up there.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:21 PM
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Thank you, Sybil.


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142: Really? How the hell did you find me of all people?!

I'm not sure. I was probably searching for something on Zizek, who I was reading at the time, and stumbled across something you've written.

That's entirely conjecture, however, as I have no idea how I found you.

I do remember a funny conversation in the break room one time, however. I walked in, saw my friend Brian, and mentioned this thing of yours I'd read ... and his eyes lit up with recognition. "You read The Weblog too?" It was a touching moment, no doubt to be orchestrated by Vangelis when they make a movie of my life.


Posted by: SEK | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:47 PM
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I think that when they write the history of blogs, I'll be like the blog Velvet Underground.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:48 PM
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So which part of you is the blog Lou Reed, and which is the blog Nico?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:50 PM
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I'm Nico, Brad is Lou Reed.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:51 PM
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Costco is union where they took over old Price Clubs.

Like here! Woo!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:52 PM
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160: I can line up behind that.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:57 PM
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Fuck Reed, who's John Cale?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:59 PM
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Costco's totally down with the gente.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 8:59 PM
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Actually that's not true at all.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 9:00 PM
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162: He's a musician, ben.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 9:00 PM
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164 to 165.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-22-07 9:03 PM
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I can't be the only one who got here through the Invisible Adjunct's site, but I may be the only one who did so after reading her archives a few months after she stopped posting.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 1:28 AM
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In a later career he went by his initials, "J. J."


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 6:23 AM
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A two-person blog is a great idea, and this is the very clever product of "Unf" and "ogged." Plus, their friend Bob, which gives the whole thing a Kevin Smith feel. It's a great blog all around, but now that Unf is back, they're hitting on all cylinders. Plus, they were among the first to link to me.

I'm delighted to see this again, as it solves the mystery for me as where I first learned of Unfogged. I remembered the description, more or less, but couldn't remember where it was from. I didn't become a regular reader until a good while later, though, 2004 or so I think. It was after I wrote a stupid post foolishly linking here, and Ogged linked back, leaving me rather humiliated. I haven't made that mistake again, deciding instead I'd insist on taking part in the comments here despite not being funny or willing to use in-jokes (much), just because. So far it's been ok.

3rd year anniversary of blogging for me was last March or July, depending on how you count (March marks the creation of the blog and first posts, soon destroyed; July the date of the first of currently existing posts.) And to think that back in the '90's I used to make fun of people who wanted their own websites--"All they end up doing is putting up their stupid writing and a picture of their cat!" or something like that. Hm, I was proved fucking right.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 7:50 AM
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JL, I liked your rubber duck post.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 8:15 AM
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Well, it was a giant ducky! You can't beat that.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 8:16 AM
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Because some Unfoggeders seemed tickled to hear it recently, I will report had an email argument with Andrew Sullivan in 2002 in which I trounced him. Being Andrew Sullivan, he did not admit I had trounced him, but the way he kind of trailed off with a whimper at the end of it seemed to indicate on some level he knew.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 8:41 AM
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10th of June, 2003..


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 10:08 AM
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I can't be the only one who got here through the Invisible Adjunct's site,

Me too.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 10:11 AM
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Yay Tia!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 10:13 AM
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got here through the Invisible Adjunct's site

baa and Labs.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 10:19 AM
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Completely off topic (but this is an older thread):

If anyone reads this comment, and knows someone living in Austin TX with a spare room to sublet -- drop me an email? I have a friend (a wonderful woman, very fun and intelligent, a teacher-in-training) who's moved there but desperately needs a place to live. Desperately enough that I would consider asking the Mineshaft for her.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 11:57 AM
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Email heebie, at least, and I know there are other Austinites, I just can't remember who.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 11:58 AM
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Thanks, LB.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 12:03 PM
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Twisty lives in Austin. As does Pandagon's Amanda and Norbizness.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 12:12 PM
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I found unfogged when paperwight decided to remove the site from his blogroll at fairshot.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08-23-07 12:29 PM
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I think I discovered Unfogged through Armsmasher's blog.


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