Re: Next: Free Clicking!

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It doesn't die until midnight. That leaves a good 45 minutes or so.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:17 PM
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Time for ... ?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:24 PM
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If we knew the duration of a quantum of masturbation, we could estimate exactly how many masturbations until no more masturbating to TimesSelect.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:24 PM
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Oh, right. For masturbating. I'm an idiot.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:25 PM
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Estimate exactly approximately precisely how many masturbations etc.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:25 PM
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What's even more amusing is that the featured item from the NYT Store is the iconic Powerhouse Mechanic photo. Guess they really are focusing their advertising efforts.


Posted by: Smelt | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:27 PM
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"He also points out that International Male serves a valuable function in the [pathetic sex lives of closeted gay teenagers]."

It was certainly the best thing I could get my hands on in the '80's. (besides, y'know) Everything old is new again.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:29 PM
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I can't put my finger on it, but I'm getting a kind of "house the Jack built" vibe from 3.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:30 PM
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the that


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:30 PM
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w-lfs-n has masturbated to the point of idiocy.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:34 PM
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i*hbar = [hand,penis]


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 9:41 PM
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Better hurry, folks!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 10:00 PM
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Wait, is it midnight tonight or midnight tomorrow? The article isn't clear.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 10:01 PM
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w-lfs-n has masturbated to the point of idiocy.

Here's a hint to gentoo users: don't upgrade to v2 of expat. It will break things, and you will be sorry.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 10:03 PM
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Here's a hint to gentoo users: don't

there, fixed that for you.


Posted by: imposter syndrome | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 10:12 PM
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Unfortunately, the death of the paywall means that columns by Friedman and Brooks will start appearing again on my favorite blogs. I really enjoyed having their stuff safely segregated behind high walls and kept away from my internets.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 10:13 PM
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don't upgrade

Obviously you don't listen.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 10:20 PM
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So the big question here, Becks, is:

Where did you pre-sexually ogle boy bodies?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 10:52 PM
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I don't know. I remember looking at the pictures in my parents' copy of The Joy Of Sex and reading some steamy passages in Clan of the Cave Bear but I don't remember ever ogling guys like that. Even today -- not much of an ogler.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 10:56 PM
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Actually, when I was in middle school and earlier, I think I was more likely to ogle women's bodies in lingerie catalogs and such. Perhaps less ogling in a sexual sense than a fascination with the women in them and the idea that I would eventually have boobs and be able to wear bras and stuff someday.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:00 PM
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Oh, yeah, I read all the Auel books in junior high. They get a lot steamier after CotCB.

In high school, I learned how to take inseam measurements and hem pants for the drama productions. And I made friends on the swim team. I am no crotch-ogler, and never have been, but I liked to know they were around in case I changed my mind.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:00 PM
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I am no crotch-ogler

Well, sure, if you put it like that.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:05 PM
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I'VE GOT A MAN-SIZED HUNGER FOR MAN-MEAT!


Posted by: CROTCH-OGRE | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:05 PM
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My best girlfriend is a terrible crotch-watcher. No one seems to notice, I guess. She will call my attention to a particularly arresting specimen on the subway, and I just can't bring myself to look. It's like there's an image scrambler over it or something.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:09 PM
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Oh my god -- the other thing that I read when I was in junior high or my freshman year in high school was The Diary of Laura Palmer. I was a huge Twin Peaks fan. And guess what? The book is online. I remember that book being very...eye-opening...at a certain age. Especially the entries for October 20, 1985 and the one right after October 3, 1986.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:11 PM
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Also: September 9, 1984.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:13 PM
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I killed the blog. Everyone's off reading Twin Peaks porn now. Oh well. Time for bed.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:24 PM
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Yeah, I think I found that sort of vague (LPD) or "writerly" (CothCB) description especially exciting as a pre-teen because the only other language I had for sex was the gross way a couple of nympho 5th-grade classmates talked about what they did with high school boys. It really put me off actually wanting to do anything with anyone else.

And thus, I was only really interested in sex in literature until I was 18. Sad, but true.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:24 PM
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No, Becks, I think I killed it. Whenever someone posts something sexy, the rule is that no one is allowed to talk about sex. Whenever someone posts about something dorky or antisocial, it's all about cock. I keep forgetting this rule.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:26 PM
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Maybe the blog is quiet because it's 1:30 AM on a Monday night.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:29 PM
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Nonsense, teo!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:36 PM
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Wait, nevermind.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:40 PM
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I think over here whole generations had their first sexual responses to the tiny pictures of "sex education" books in the backpages of book club catalogs.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 09-17-07 11:58 PM
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I clicked through to International Male underwear section, and *I* was quite scared too. I'm sure Ogged has that Push-Up Thong. And then I nearly cried at the Problem Solvers category.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 4:22 AM
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OT, but while I like Keith Olbermann's news show quite a bit (except for the Britney shit), the ads on the program are skewed toward Cialis and laxatives (two competing brands).

Also, almost all of the laxative ads feature nice-looking women. Is it so that homely fat guys can buy laxatives without believing that they're contributing to a stereotype?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 6:12 AM
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Anti-diarrhoea adverts feature nice-looking women too.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 6:32 AM
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I remember looking at the pictures in my parents' copy of The Joy Of Sex

I remember looking at my parents' copy of The Joy of Sex and thinking "Gross. Hippies."


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 6:44 AM
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Sorry for thread spamming, but I just want to repeat a comment I posted in another thread. If anyone sees JL around here, please ask him to e-mail me. It's semi urgent.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 6:53 AM
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37 - Totally. Least sexy sex book ever.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 7:26 AM
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A friend of mine looked at several editions and said that bondage became more and more prominent as the book progressed.

A 40-year-old tech friend of mine left her tyrannical husband and took up with a 25-year-old guy (a Mormon!). Shortly after that I met her coming out of Powell's with a brand-new JofS. I told her she should make sure that the new 5.0 manual also covered the older 2.0 and 1.0 models. She finally got the joke a few hours later, she told me.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 7:37 AM
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Least sexy sex book ever

Hm. Clearly the signifiers are very time-specific, and just the right style to be redolent of parents, for someone your age. And you Becks are about the most age-aware person I regularly encounter.

In the day, it was sexy to us, although the hippy quality was striking, and probably deliberate on several levels. The hairyness, and to No. American eyes uncut quality was about "naturalness." My favorite illustrations in memory are the color ones from the front of the book, where the woman in the peasant dress doesn't actually take it off. The woman, particularly in the uncolored line drawings, always looked very English to me.

Yes, a bromide, pathetic in retrospect, yada yada. It seems to have helped a lot of people in the half-generation older than mine, and may be out there doing good still. Maybe current or future teenagers will find that hair sexy again.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 7:51 AM
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Becks and Cerebrocrat are uptight Puritans who hate the body.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 7:56 AM
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Correct, John. The early JoS books was illustrated with all these wonderfully lithe and natural bodies. So natural compared to the chunky, muscular, six-packed, shaven ones that came later.

Anyone else find their parent's copy of Anais Nin early on?


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 8:12 AM
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41: In the day, it was sexy to us, although the hippy quality was striking, and probably deliberate on several levels... about "naturalness."

No doubt, and in retrospect this makes it kind of charming. But the age at which we were most likely to be nosing around in our parents' sex book s is exactly the age at which we'd be most sensitive to generational signifiers (god, I just said "signifiers") and least interested in naturalness as opposed to idealized sexuality. Now that I'm older and wiser, I'd have to agree that pube shaving is weird.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 9:18 AM
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Emerson digs hairy chix.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 9:19 AM
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Cerebrocrat is genteel.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 9:20 AM
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44: I never ran across a copy of the Joy of Sex at a formative age (I'm actually trying to figure out what I did run across. Not much -- I had pretty complete biological knowledge, but that was about it until I started actually doing stuff.) But I'd think there'd actually be some informational usefulness in having a non-hot sex manual - a sort of 'this is stuff ordinary unappealing people do' rather than 'Oooo, look at the pretty pictures.' You'd want it to stay short of revolting, but unerotic sounds like it might make it more personally approachable as reference.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 9:43 AM
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I'd have to agree that pube shaving is weird.

Cerebrocrat hates progress.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 9:47 AM
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@47: I think that balance was what the publishers were aiming for. It did function as porn, in spite of or perhaps because of the ordinariness of the figures, but approachable and non-intimidating for sure.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 9:47 AM
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Now that I'm older and wiser, I'd have to agree that pube shaving is weird.

It's not inherently weird. Doing it because it feels good and makes sex more fun makes perfect sense. Doing it out of a sense of social expectation is weird (but when you get down to it, so is shaving of legs and armpits)


Posted by: imposter syndrome | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 9:56 AM
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My mother was (and remains) a book-packrat nonpareil. She regularly brought home cartons full of castoffs and surplus books from the library at the prison where she worked, which was overflowing from all the publisher's remainders (cover half cut off, remainder stamp on the sides of the pages) they received.

All together, this constituted a cornucopia of near-porn, at least if you were willing to skim through hundreds of promising-looking paperbacks, which I most assuredly was.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 9:59 AM
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46: Now that's just the last straw.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:04 AM
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re: 50

Or the face, for that matter.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:14 AM
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Or the face, for that matter.

True, although that one has some limited argument from utility (can't catch food in a beard that isn't there). But I agree it's mostly aesthetics.


Posted by: imposter syndrome | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:16 AM
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Whenever I feel slightly self-conscious about not shaving my armpits, I remember that my parents' Joy of Sex was very adamantly against it. I have like five armpit hairs, so the cost-benefit equation comes out against shaving, but I do get embarrassed every couple months or so.


Posted by: Mamie Eisenhower | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:33 AM
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What in 55 requires presidential pseudonymity?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:41 AM
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My parents always seemed horrified by regular-old-sex books like JoS. Instead, they both seemed to buy a lot of softcorish thriller novels, which they'd then lend to me. Always, the sex in these books was not well-enough described to get what was going on, but it was always mildly nonstandard. I remember reading Pet Sematary when I was 11 and it was full of loofah-handjob-in-the-bath type stuff. Others only had lesbian scenes in them.

I guess no one ever really puts a carefully-described missionary intercourse scene in a novel.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:42 AM
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Clearly you've forgotten the M of receptivity.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:43 AM
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Gawd, I hate Updike.

That was Updike, right?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:45 AM
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I think so.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:45 AM
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But I agree it's mostly aesthetics.

That last optical inch could make all the difference. You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.

I think the first explicit sex scene I ever read was in the New Yorker, in a story by John Updike that eventually became part of "Sabbath's Theater". It was extremely weird.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:46 AM
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Sabbath's Theater is a P. Roth novel.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:47 AM
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Same thing.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:48 AM
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I think vanilla het sex tends to get described very elliptically in non-literary, non-porn fiction, because the assumption is that the reader has a strong enough concept of what's going on to supply the details themselves. I read an awful lot of novels with sex scenes aimed at adults as a kid, and managed to gather very little actual information from them. Once you get a little off the beaten track, the writer has to be slightly more straightforwardly informative to make it clear what exactly they're talking about.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:48 AM
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But it was definitely an excerpt from Sabbath's Theater. I read it over and over wondering what the point was.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:48 AM
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Except Roth can choose not to suck for pages at a time. Also: sense of irony.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:48 AM
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It's not impossible that a story by John Updike was plagiarized by Roth and inserted into Sabbath's Theater.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:48 AM
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Not everyone is as comfortable as apostropher in describing their intimate hygeine to the whole wide world, ogged.


Posted by: Mamie Eisenhower | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:49 AM
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The only two women I have known not to shave their pits were hotter for it.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:50 AM
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64: In elementary school, I bought a lot of adult fantasy novels, like Anne McCaffrey, and found that fantasy tends to be more helpfully descriptive about the mechanics for beginners.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:51 AM
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They probably lived in a cool climate.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:51 AM
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70: That's because in fantasy you have to make it clear that the people having sex are humanoids and not griffins or wraiths or talking cats.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:53 AM
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They probably lived in a cool climate.

Or washed.


Posted by: Mamie Eisenhower | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:54 AM
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I guess one of them I didn't really know. We were in the same class one quarter, and I referred to her as "hot Durkheim girl". She was really beautiful. I don't think I exchanged word one with her.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:55 AM
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fantasy tends to be more helpfully descriptive about the mechanics for beginners

Because the author can't assume that the reader is familiar with what turns on imaginary species from other planets.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:55 AM
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Or, of course, that they are griffins having sex with talking cats.

I dunno, isn't Anne McCaffrey a lot of "she lay back and let him come to her" "they joined passionately, coming together more and more intensely, until she felt herself explode in an endless cascade of starlight" and so on? Not so much with the body parts.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 10:56 AM
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Or maybe I was just slow. But I was, in fact, reading a whole bunch of Anne McCaffrey and similar, and still felt somewhat underinformed.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:00 AM
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I was eight. It was enough.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:01 AM
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I've changed my mind—again!—about presidential pseudonymity: whatever people feel vaguely ashamed about, for whatever reason, seems an appropriate use to me.

What leads me to this conclusion is the fact that we do have established personae here, and what seems to go with that is a desire to not reveal things that would shame not merely our real life selves, but our personae too, before the others.

It's not my way here: I only use it when the story violates the privacy of someone else, but I think that's what's going on.

In principle, I wish we were franker than that, and I try to be "warts and all," but I wouldn't want to deflect any conversation that would otherwise come up here by insisting others do the same.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:01 AM
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70: Same for me with the McCaffrey, although I rather quickly moved on to Heinlein's non-juvenile stuff. I think I read Time Enough for Love when I was 12 or 13. That was... educational.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:07 AM
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I think that's a really underexamined source of Heinlein's popularity among the teen nerd set. Number of the Beast, here.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:10 AM
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Now that I'm older and wiser, I'd have to agree that pube shaving is weird.

Absolutely. If there's one place you don't want irritating stubble, that be it. Waxing is clearly the way to go.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:13 AM
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I think Tiptree's "Houston, Houston, do you read?" was the first story I read that dealt with explicit sex. Also, around the same time I read Portnoy's Complaint and The Professor of Desire. So much of the latter two flew straight over my head, but I was only there for the hot parts, anyway. I recall Tanith Lee being good, too, as well as Andre Norton.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:16 AM
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I remember reading a sex scene in one of the later Foundation novels and being really disappointed with how ineptly it was written.

There was a copy of The Harrad Experiment at my family's summer cabin that I recall finding quite startling.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:20 AM
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I read lots of books that had sex scenes as a kid, but like others, I didn't really get what was going on until I was older. So they sort of passed me by. Ditto explicit films and/or porn. I don't think I saw any genuinely explicit films until after I'd already started having sex.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:21 AM
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Number of the Beast, here.

I'm reasonably sure that I read about sex in fiction when I was 8 or 9ish and workin' the adult fiction section of the library (with permission). The memory of whatever that was is totally blotted out by the fact that I laid hands on the semi-infamous "Last All Meat Issue" of Hustler when I was 11.

That was shortly followed by acquiring an issue of Gallery which was a sorta 2nd rate psuedo-sophisticated euro skin mag. Since it had pretenses to sophistication, it actually had articles, which I eventually got around to reading. One article was a quite serious one about the massive unpreparedness/ineptitude of the American army (this being 1979). Roughly six months after I had read the article, I was reading the new edition of Expanded Universe and discovered that Heinlein made an explicit reference to that exact article. I was totally thrilled; the Grand Master and I were perusing the same skin mags! Woo hoo! (I had long since read Time Enough for Love and the other "adult" bloviating books.)

So there's yer teen nerd moment from me.

max
['I suppose you had to be me.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:22 AM
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81 - That and the hardminded, no-nonsense political philosophy suitable for twelve-year-olds.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:23 AM
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So they sort of passed me by. Ditto explicit films and/or porn

"Lord, you can imagine where it goes from here!"

"He fixes the cable?"

"Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey."


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:26 AM
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I think I worked out that Heinlein was socio-politically offensive before I realised that he was riske'. (Can't be arsed with fancy characters.) I was a bit strange like that.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:45 AM
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Can't be arsed with fancy characters.

Like "q"?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:46 AM
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Just so.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 11:50 AM
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Over lunch I remembered Herzog's IQ 83. This terrifying tale of a world lapsing into imbecility is filled with characters who--as they became dumber and dumber--can't control their savage desires!!! Even at thirteen or so, I think I suspected that Herzog wasn't a very good writer--not that I cared--but I didn't realize how bad until now.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 12:26 PM
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The only two women I have known not to shave their pits were hotter for it.

Aye. And legs.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 12:29 PM
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Shere Hite, "The Hite Report", was also formative and I think having impressed on it so early made me a better lover when I finally worked my way around to the real thing (much, much, much later...the book was only helpful on what to do once you were in bed).

I think Heinlein gave me a skewed picture of how impressed women were by endless sophomoric lectures on politics. He was like the first warblogger.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 12:47 PM
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93 - How hairy were these hot non-shaving girls you and Ben are going on about? I mean, I'm Sicilian. If I didn't shave my legs (& etc.) I'd probably be as hairy as Ogged after a couple of weeks. Are you talking the type of girl with downy blonde hair or with serious hair?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 12:55 PM
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I was thinking. I'm not Sicilian, but I'm dark-haired, and in non-shaving periods of my life you could have told that my legs were unshaven as far away as you could see me. Blondes are talking about an entirely different level of committment to unshavenness.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 12:58 PM
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95: Becks: you could not shave at all and then go on dates nude; then, you could pen a Modern Love column titled "When Hirsute Becamse Her Suit."


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:00 PM
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I had an illuminating early experience of literary porn with a book I more recently identified as Satan: His Psychotherapy and Cure. I recall opening it because of the title, and being hit full-force with an explicit oral sex scene.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:03 PM
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We all must decide where our limits are. I'm downy and blonde, but girls at the spa where I worked were always on me to get full-body waxes. They wanted me to do my forearms and everything, couldn't believe I'd go in public with visible blond forearm hair. Around that time I went out with a guy who told me it was, like, unbelievably kinky that I didn't get Brazilians. And a coworker explained to me that "a lady gets a pedicure and wears sandals in the summer."

Apparently, everywhere I went, I was broadcasting that I was a low-rent midwesterner with 70's-housewife-level grooming habits. I've made a couple of minor concessions since then, like paying more for haircuts, keeping my brows plucked, and trying to make my nails look decent. I Brazilianed a few times on compulsion, but it's just too much fucking effort. Trimming is sufficient.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:08 PM
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I understand shaving the public areas—sounds like co-op bylaws, I know—but hair whenever and wherever encountered has never been a turnoff, as we used to say in the seventies heyday of that sort of thing.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:16 PM
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I guess it just feels weird to be told that one's hygiene is, like, fetishy, even if it's appreciated.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:20 PM
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I reject America's depilatory frenzy. Let a million ass hairs wave!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:25 PM
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Eh, shoulda been born with a dick, then.


Posted by: DaveL | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:25 PM
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I usually get away with claiming that it's a Continental thing. Or something. Maybe I'm driving away a thousand prissy potential dates everyday!

I usually get rid of my leg hair, though.


Posted by: Mamie Eisenhower | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:36 PM
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Shaved legs rule. It's not, obv., bad to have hairy legs, but it's not genuinely awesome, the way the smooth, nearly slick skin of just shaved legs are. w-lfs-n and KR are deviants.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:43 PM
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95, 96: I hate to admit it, but Becks and LB have a point: those of us who don't shave would have an even rougher time of it if we were hairier than we are. I'm not sure what I would do in that case.

I'm not downy blond; my leg hair is pretty noticeable, but no, not at Sicilian levels. Almost all of the other women I've known who don't shave are, in fact, downy blond.

The only ones who weren't were either lesbians or hippies. In other words, participating in communities with divergent sensibilities. And many hippie women do shave, usually legs more than arms; it's often for, hm, aesthetic, sexuality-related reasons.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:48 PM
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I was talking about armpits, Timmy.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:52 PM
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I think the world is ready for a thread on this topic. I'll put one up.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 1:53 PM
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If I could snap my fingers and be entirely hairless except for my eyebrows, I'd do it. I don't know why I'm telling you this.


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 2:33 PM
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Or why you aren't telling us this on the thread ogged put up, I'm guessing.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 2:33 PM
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"a lady gets a pedicure and wears sandals in the summer."

A truly artful euphemism for talking about ass hair.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09-18-07 3:15 PM
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