Re: Incompatible Food Triad

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Pacing, young Ben, pacing. Such a perfect post for tomorrow morning, but you had to blow your wad early.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:41 PM
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Why must you always find fault?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:45 PM
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The thing is, Ogged, youngsters like Ben have enough stamina that they don't need to worry so much about pacing.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:49 PM
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This is an excellent problem.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:49 PM
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Pretty sure I read about this at Marginal Revolution a while back.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:51 PM
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Why must you always find fault?

It's a horrible trait, isn't it? And I violated my own rule about not taking issue with the post before the third comment. My apologies, quick squirt.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:51 PM
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I've seen it before, and have seen garlic, lemon, chocolate suggested as a solution. I find the garlic-chocolate dyad unconvincing, but am told that it's workable in a mole sauce.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:51 PM
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Chocolate is I think key to most solutions.

A. chocolate
B. bacon
C. whitefish

Could work, given Molé as an option for A & C.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:54 PM
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I'm dubious about garlic-chocolate. If you can make the garlic-chocolate dyad work, then it's a short hop to garlic-chocolate lemon.

I wondered whether bacon (or guancale) may make one leg of this, but maybe crisp-cooked bacon goes with everything


Posted by: TomF | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:56 PM
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Chocolate-bacon whitefish doesn't sound that bad.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:56 PM
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Cream cheese, salmon, and cherries?


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:56 PM
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There are people who find A&B in 8 unappealing. IMO, they're wrong, but they're out there.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:57 PM
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Not unbearably repulsive, perhaps, but a damn sight worse than any of the dyads, to my mind.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:57 PM
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13 is a continuation of 11.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 8:58 PM
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I'm dubious about garlic-chocolate.

I'd try roast garlic dipped in dark chocolate. Might turn out nasty, but it might be pretty good.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:00 PM
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If you make the chocolate-whitefish work in the mole, adding bacon is child's play.

the hard part is one of the links-- e.g.

Bacon-Chocolate (it works. I've had it)
Bacon-liver

liver-chocolate. Nope.


Posted by: TomF | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:02 PM
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15: Here's a recipe.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:04 PM
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There is a related conjecture that all dishes are improved by the addition of either chocolate or garlic.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:04 PM
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Steak, pepper, chocolate (although I'm commenting under protest).


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:04 PM
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Black pepper.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:05 PM
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This is probably doable with blogs, too.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:06 PM
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Once you get to liking steak and chocolate, it seems that steak, pepper, and chocolate is not a big stretch.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:06 PM
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Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:06 PM
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19, what?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:06 PM
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whiskey, milk, soda?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:07 PM
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Once you get to liking steak and chocolate, it seems that steak, pepper, and chocolate is not a big stretch.

I knew someone would say that. That's not to say that I have a good answer, but I totally saw it coming, ok?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:07 PM
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Eh, the three together sound better than black pepper and chocolate without the steak.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:07 PM
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Milk and soda?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:07 PM
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Okay!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:08 PM
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28: Sure.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:09 PM
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But egg creams are gross, Sifu.

The best I can come up with is apple/Cheddar/bacon, but someone will probably step up to defend the apple-Cheddar-bacon sandwich or something.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:11 PM
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30: ok, but then I don't see why you couldn't add whiskey.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:11 PM
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Egg creams are awesome. I can't imagine what you mean.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:11 PM
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32: yeah, I've been struggling with that.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:12 PM
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someone will probably step up to defend the apple-Cheddar-bacon sandwich or something.

Or something, yeah.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:13 PM
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Unless you're a 72-year-old Jewish man named Morris, I'm going to have to overrule 33.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:13 PM
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I wonder if this might be easier by trying to find the form of incompatible Triads.
a) an acid, something in the citrus family
b) a fat
c) a third ingredient that works with both.

a) a spice that works in sweet and savory preparations
b) a food that is primarily savory
c) sugar.

For the second triad I submit:
a) cocoa;
b) chicken; and,
c) sugar.

Based largely on a dear roommate trying to fix a mole with sugar, giving us chocolate chicken. Wrong wrong wrong.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:14 PM
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Splenda, Olean and methylcellulose.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:14 PM
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Well then call me a 72-year-old Jewish man named Morris, because I love egg creams. I get them whenever I can.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:14 PM
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egg creams are gross?

apple/cheddar/bacon might make a decent pannini, and I'm sure have gone together in many salads. That trio is easy to imagine working together. No right angles in the tastes there.


Posted by: TomF | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:14 PM
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It seems like ginger would perfectly bridge the sweet/savory distinction that makes for a gross triad, but everything I'm coming up with sounds pretty good.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:15 PM
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The problem is that we live in such a fallen age that someone will pop up to defend any triad as the height of yumminess.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:15 PM
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The "by any reasonable definition" condition is not strong enough, because people eat all kinds of weird shit.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:15 PM
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27: haven't had chocolate with black pepper, but it's great with cracked pink pepper. (That Belgian brand, Delfin I think it's called, has it.)


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:15 PM
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43 pwned by 42.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:16 PM
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a) an acid, something in the citrus family
b) a fat
c) a third ingredient that works with both.

You mean like, say, lemon juice, pork belly, and celery? Because those are doublewise and triplewise compatible (and how!).


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:16 PM
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I thought about it further and y'all are right, apple/cheddar/bacon works fine -- I was locked into the context of pie. So: apple/bacon/pie crust. But you people probably like apple-bacon quiche.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:16 PM
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Chocolate with black pepper is really good.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:17 PM
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I was thinking more a dairy product for b) of the first triad. Something, basically, where the acid and the fat can work together on their own but crashes and burns in preparations... one of the ones on the link was espresso, lemon, and milk.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:18 PM
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a) an acid, something in the citrus family
b) a fat
c) a third ingredient that works with both.

a) grapefruit
b) fatback
c) Nature Valley crunchy granola bar


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:18 PM
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haven't had chocolate with black pepper

I don't remember where I had it, but it's very good.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:18 PM
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Campari, grapefruit juice, and tonic water, on the grounds that all three together would just be too much?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:18 PM
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47: Try again.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:19 PM
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49: but then the acid and the fat have to play nice in isolation from the third ingredient. So what you really need is two ingredients that react very slowly together, and a third that's a catalyst.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:19 PM
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OK, OK, I believe you. Chocolate really is versatile stuff. Right up there with bacon.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:19 PM
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The "by any reasonable definition" condition is not strong enough, because people I eat all kinds of weird shit.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:20 PM
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I don't remember where I had it, but it's very good.

One of the fancy chocolate companies sells savory samplers with chocolate + pepper/basil/other spices and herbs etc.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:21 PM
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522: all three together are in fact delicious.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:21 PM
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One of our wedding gifts was a small tray of fine Belgian chocolates. Each pair of chocolates was infused with a different subtle flavor. Anise, cumin, lemon, earl grey tea, chamomile. Very tasty.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:21 PM
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58: The suspense is going to kill me.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:22 PM
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Hmm. Ginger, beef, and chocolate.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:24 PM
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Er, cocoa, for chocolate.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:25 PM
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Veal/orange/gelatin? Google that, w-lfs-n.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:25 PM
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Acquavit, pickled herring, peanut butter.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:25 PM
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Gin, orange, and onion?


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:25 PM
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Veal/orange/gelatin?

Gelatin doesn't have much of a flavor, you know. If you can do veal + orange, you can aspicize it or whatever and toss in some gelatin.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:28 PM
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65 is clever.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:28 PM
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Building off 52, perhaps Campari, marshmallow, and grapefruit? Except that I can imagine a circumstance where that works.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:29 PM
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Alas, the Yellow Rattler


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:32 PM
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chocolate, milk, & chicken?


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:32 PM
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During those endless childhood summers, we lived for when the Ice Cream Van would come around and sell us frozen milk-chocolate covered chicken squares. Bliss.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:34 PM
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During those endless childhood summers, we lived for when the Ice Cream Van would come around and sell us frozen milk-chocolate covered chicken squares. Bliss.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:34 PM
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I have no idea why that appeared twice.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:35 PM
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That explains the analytic metaphysics. Twice, even.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:35 PM
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Though you could probably pour some cream in your mole w/ no seriously ill effects. If it's not required to dominate the dish this become really difficult.


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:36 PM
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The point of the linked page is that he hasn't yet heard a satisfactory solution, so this should be very difficult.

Something with pickles, but I don't know what!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:40 PM
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I don't see any guarantee that the Yellow Rattler is not vile.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:41 PM
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That explains the analytic metaphysics

At present the resident analytic metaphysician is insisting, from across the room, that this puzzle is badly formulated and that discussion is therefore pointless.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:43 PM
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The yellow rattler may not be vile, but I bet a decent gin + oj preparation, garnished with a cocktail onion, could be concocted. I bet, further, that a decent dish incorporating onions, and oj + gin in the sauce, could be prepared.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:46 PM
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I almost went that route, but I figured if I argued the problem was incoherent ogged would be sad and w-lfs-n would quote Locke again.

Goneril, you're not in metaphysics? But, but.. you get my bad modality jokes....


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:46 PM
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I mean, the yellow rattler may not not be vile.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:46 PM
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I agree with 78. I do not believe food operates this way.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:47 PM
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if I argued the problem was incoherent ogged would be sad

No, I agree, but I'm playing along because I feel guilty about being mean to Ben.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:48 PM
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Not that this should stop anyone.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:48 PM
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The yellow rattler may not be vile, but I bet a decent gin + oj preparation, garnished with a cocktail onion, could be concocted. I bet, further, that a decent dish incorporating onions, and oj + gin in the sauce, could be prepared.

Did Harvey "bet"? Did Galileo "bet"? Science demands proof, Ben! We need experimental data! Note, however, that bacon, chicken, and ice are incompatible.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:48 PM
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The primary incoherency of the problem, I think, is that it doesn't specify how the ingredients have to come together. To go together pairwise, does it suffice that some preparation of the two ingredients that works exists? Or do they have to go together when they're alone together, too? That would be pretty difficult.

So first real question is: when do two or more foods "go together"? What does the ordinary concept of going together actually involve? Only once this preliminary problem is solved can we move on.

And now we've got a research program!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:50 PM
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86: Exactly. Like, once you add enough butter, practically anything will work.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:51 PM
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No, I agree, but I'm playing along because I feel guilty about being mean to Ben.

You're an asshole, ogged.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:51 PM
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cherry
coke
vanilla

CherryVanillaCoke, although available on the market, turns out to be disgusting.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:53 PM
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Yes, but homemade cherry-vanilla coke is just fine.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:53 PM
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Last Tango in Paris should not guide one in the kitchen, Cala.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:54 PM
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Goneril, you're not in metaphysics? But, but.. you get my bad modality jokes....

Social network issues mean I am unbelievably good at bluffing in this area.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:55 PM
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The Incompatible Food Triad problem has no solution. I have a truly marvelous proof of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:56 PM
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What we need is a chemist. Things should mix fine in pairs, but item 1 and item 2 should form a reaction that would be adverse with item 3. Since I don't remember my chemistry classes, I'll ignorantly speculate that perhaps 2 non-reactive agents could form an acid or base, that could be paired with an opposite so that it blows up. Or maybe 1 and 2 could form an acid, which would curdle or coagulate item 3, a loose protein.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:58 PM
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If the first two ingredients are non-reactive, they won't form an acid or base when introduced to each other, oder?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:58 PM
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Hydrogen peroxide, manganese, fire


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:59 PM
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92: If you studied where I think you did, it was practically in the water, so you learned it by osmosis.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 9:59 PM
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95. I'm an optimist.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:00 PM
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At least this thread hasn't been taken over by discussions of white bread.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:05 PM
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92: If you studied where I think you did, it was practically in the water, so you learned it by osmosis.

You have no idea.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:09 PM
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I see this thread has moved on, but I've got it: cheddar cheese, sugar, and apples.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:19 PM
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You obviously haven't eaten breakfast in Vermont.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:20 PM
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cheddar cheese, sugar, and apples.

Americans love a slice of cheese on their apple pies.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:21 PM
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I deem this thread eminently more hopeful for the human race than the current zombie/pirate/ninja debate taking place among facebook users.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:22 PM
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Also: I know Sifu was working the alcohol angle early, but I'll go that path again.

White Wine/Beer/Brown Liquor


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:26 PM
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Lutefisk, chocolate, and brussels sprouts.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 10:49 PM
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Lutefisk is already disgusting all by itself.

94 has it right. We need a chemist, a catalyst, and either an explosion or a poison at the end.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 11:04 PM
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Wait, what was wrong with this one?

a. Salted cucumbers
b. Sugar
c. Yogurt.
a and b in sweet pickles
a and c in tzaziki (sp?), the greek yogurt dish [and raita].
b and c is common.
a, b,and c together is pretty gross. I was trying to make tzaziki once, and accidentally used sweetened vanilla yogurt. I had to throw it out. Yuck.

Hart says, "I can't comment on this, as I draw the line at a+c," but he clearly just hates Greeks & Indians.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 11:52 PM
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s/b what was wrong with this one other than the absence of bacon?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 10-10-07 11:54 PM
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My proposed answer to this in the past has been:

chocolate, peanut butter, chili pepper


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 12:57 AM
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What in the world makes you think those wouldn't be good together?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 1:43 AM
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Blah blah blah incredulous stare blah blah.

But in fact I find myself moved by your incredulity.


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 1:46 AM
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Getting modality jokes isn't the mark of a metaphysician. Getting jokes about tropes (or some equally loony thing) is the mark of a metaphysician. One should consider, in wondering about whether or not to pursue metaphysics, that being in a state in which one is capable of getting, or, worse, making, a joke about tropes is not choiceworthy.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 1:47 AM
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110 is crazy. In fact, I'll bet you can buy foodstuffs that contain all of those.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 3:24 AM
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I am betting that the triad, when ultimately discovered, will include some form of sushi.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 4:16 AM
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Salmon
Saffron
Cocoa

37 is good. We're actually looking for distinctive yet versatile ingredients: that is, ingredients that have strong views but are susceptible to an allegiance switch. Or to put it another way; any of the ingredient pairs should tentatively set up a 'taste mode' which is then upset by the addition of a third ingredient: all of the ingredients will then find it hard to decide which way to go.


Posted by: Charlie | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 4:35 AM
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gin, vermouth and tonic.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 4:56 AM
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117 is pretty good.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 5:50 AM
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animal


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 6:03 AM
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Britain, Germany and France. France being the bitter one.


Posted by: Charlie | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 6:40 AM
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119: I think he meant was a good solution, not that it would taste good.

At least, I have to tell myself that if I ever want to trust ttaM again.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:05 AM
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Why would it taste bad? A bit sweet for me, but perfectly palatable.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:12 AM
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Oh, and 108 gets it exactly right. I actually thought I'd be far too late to point that out, but I only just missed it.

As for the objections raised by the imaginary metaphysicist, I really think it's exactly right - we have here people justifying triads based on very slim premises, like you could sneak a little cream into a mole and it wouldn't be gross. Well sure: you could also put one petal of brussels sprout in a buttload of ice cream without ruining it, but it still doesn't make them a dyad.

I think the only meaningful way to deal with the question is to identify a limited number/amount of additional ingredients (salt, oil... that may be it), but otherwise limit the triad to the triad. Which is why salted cuke/yogurt/sugar works so well - all the dyads are (essentially) complete without any additional ingredients. And while bacon/cheddar/apple is best disproved by a toasty sandwich, I would happily sit down to a lunch of just those three things on a cutting board.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:14 AM
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122: I'm actually not much of a fan of any of these, but I think the point is that the dyads range from excellent to cocktail par excellence, while the triad is drinkable at best. Which doesn't make it really fit the problem ("unpalatable"), but it makes you squint at anyone who'd drink the triad without shouting "who put the X in my YZ!?"


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:16 AM
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The problem is that people's tastes are simultaneously so specific and so wide-ranging. As a precondition to believe this triad can be found, you have to imagine a set of three foods such that no reasonable person would ever want to eat them together. This is somewhat trivial if one of the foods is curdled or otherwise spoiled by one of the other foods (well, trivial in most cases: see Irish Car Bombs) but that also messes up the dyad. 94 I think it the closest to the correct methodology. Perhaps combining two slightly acidic foods with another (loose protein) food such that independently they would not curdle it, but together they would be acidic enough that they would?

Still, living in a world in which stinky cheese, 1000 year old eggs, chocolate covered grasshoppers, and blood pudding exist: I don't think it can be done.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:21 AM
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Still, living in a world in which stinky cheese, 1000 year old eggs, chocolate covered grasshoppers, and blood pudding the Chinese exist: I don't think it can be done.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:25 AM
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Like Ezra Klein, I'm calling you out, Sifu: do YOU like salted pickles in sweetened yogurt? Does anyone here?

Seriously, we had takers for chocolate steak; do we have takers for a little cup of yogurt with the pickles at the bottom? If not, then we have an approximation of an answer. Sifu's broader point is right - in a world of 6 billion people, you can find a million who would not only eat, but also enjoy, any damn thing. But if no one here is going to stand up for a food, I think that's as close as we can get (the chemistry question interests me not at all).


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:48 AM
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Sounds okay. I'd certainly dip lightly salted cucumber slices in greek yogurt, which is quite sweet. Feel free to test me on this, should you meet me.

But yeah, that's the best example I've seen out of all of them.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:51 AM
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yoghurt, honey and pork


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:54 AM
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They're selling pork-flavored yoghurt at Tesco now?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:57 AM
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pork-flavored yoghurt

Low-fat strawberry-hamnana, yes.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 7:59 AM
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I've never done it with pork, but you can use yogurt as a marinade for all sorts of meat. Given that it's pork, adding honey probably wouldn't be bad either, though.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 8:00 AM
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Further evidence for the "it's incoherent" analysis.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 8:02 AM
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honey-glazed ham; pork or lamb cooked in a yoghurt based sauce are pretty common across Greece and the Balkans.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 8:04 AM
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re: 132

Yoghurt plus honey are standard components of some indian dips/marinades used with meat. So that one's definitely a non-starter.

The standard 'pakora sauce' recipe I know uses yoghurt, honey, vinegar, fresh mint, and chilli. It is delicious with all kinds of deep fried meat-based products.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 8:06 AM
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Just last night I was enjoying Turkish food and dipping grilled meats (no pork, for obvious reasons) in yogurt sauce, albeit a savory one. Personally, I can't abide* sweet sauces/glazes for meats, but I know that I'm part of a shrinking minority on that one.

* Slight overstatement with exceptions; but I could happily live forever without such things


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 8:10 AM
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greek yogurt, which is quite sweet

But I wouldn't call it "sweetened" unless you're tipping that brilliant honey compartment into it. As I said, I don't think minor amounts of a third ingredient count for much; so sugar that yogurt like you were having it for dessert, then dip in salted cuke.

I hope Becks is taking notes on all this for UnfoggeDCon. The entire event - food and drinks - should consist of marginally-edible triads that people here have claimed to like.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 8:13 AM
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without shouting "who put the X in my YZ!?"

This is great. It's going to become part of my repertoire. The shouting part is essential.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 9:07 AM
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129 has the right idea, even though those three are potentially delicious together. The meat/sweets/other combination probably has lots of solutions: prosciutto, melons, and cream cheese, for instance.

(granted, you could put them together, but it would be serious overkill, and google doesn't suggest any recipes that actually call for such a combination).


Posted by: Tim | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 9:49 AM
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part of my repertoire

In the hours since I posted that, it has already become a buzzphrase, passed into casual conversation, been made into a dance track, and cited by Paul Harvey as an example of the decadence of modern society.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 9:51 AM
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108 is good.

However I could imagine having a scoop of cucumber sorbet and frozen yogurt together in a cup. That wouldn't be "salted cucumbers" but it would be cucumbers.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 10:34 AM
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140: Shall you write the wikipedia entry for it, or shall I?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 10:39 AM
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The "editors" already pulled it for [citations needed]. Unfortunately, this whole thread was Google-proofed by all the slashes, so I couldn't use it.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 11:11 AM
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Come on people isn't it obvious:
1) A shot of tequila
2) A shot of tequila
3) A shot of tequila


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 12:22 PM
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1) A shot of tequila
2) A shot of tequila
3) A shot of tequila

4) Floor


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 12:27 PM
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Since we're considering liquids, would it be a cheat to use water as the third? Iced Bailey's is fine and iced tequila is fine, but iced teqhlua would be the stuff dares are made of.


Posted by: toesintheweal | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 12:45 PM
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Meant iced Bailey's/ Tequila. Was originally toying with Kahlua.


Posted by: toesintheweal | Link to this comment | 10-11-07 12:48 PM
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I have done some research into the chocolate + bacon dyad, and I can now report: delicious!


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 2:31 PM
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