Re: The Limits Of Human Endurance

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There's lots of that kind of stuff here. I have been on the internet long enough to not go to this url, which I believe has the video they are reacting to.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:27 PM
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1. ogged baited, thread killed, baseball watched: a day well spent!

2. oh, do click on the links in the comments.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:29 PM
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Also the people in the office are so hip I want to punch them.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:32 PM
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oh, do click on the links in the comments.

Yeah, how bad could they really be, right?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:35 PM
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5: the people in the video are certainly having fun! Look at those t-shirts!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:36 PM
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It's been a meta night for me.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:37 PM
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How can I talk about sex for eight hours a day? Easy; every so often I comment about baseball.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:48 PM
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I strongly implore you not to click on the second link #1.


Posted by: oh my god. | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:49 PM
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Also the people in the office are so hip I want to punch them.

And that is why NY dot-coms will always lose. Vimeo. Feh.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:54 PM
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9: they seriously couldn't be more annoying. Look at those smug dipshits!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:56 PM
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8: Yeah, that one's not really safe for work, huh? It's the Eisensteinian quick-cut editing at the very beginning that really makes it work for me.


Posted by: NickFranklin | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:56 PM
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Were you around for the Flagpole Sitter video, Sifu?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:56 PM
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I don't think so, no.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:58 PM
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Lucky you.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 9:58 PM
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Oh, right. Those assholes. Punch, punch, punch, punch, punch.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:00 PM
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That whole thing is some fucking guerilla marketing ploy aimed directly at you, ogged. The whole thing, comments and all. They break that set down every night and reassemble it according to your latest uneasy dotcom dream. You realize that, right?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:02 PM
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So angry. What did the hip ever do to you?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:02 PM
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Lucky you.

Haters, the lot of you.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:03 PM
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I break the hip.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:03 PM
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Seriously, though, look at the freeze frame of that video: the dude with the sideburns and western shirt, the dude with the harvard t-shirt, the "oh, gross!" girl, the fucking plant in an ironic tracksuit jacket: how can you not just instantly hate everything about it?

God. Those people are awful, worthless human beings, top to bottom.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:06 PM
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You're an angry drunk, tweety bird.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:09 PM
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Even hipsters hate hipsters. With good reason, I might add. Compare to real video website.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:10 PM
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Is this tubgirl or goatse.cx for our video age or something?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:11 PM
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Not even drunk. I just find that fakey-ass internet company appalling, similarly to how I find Old Navy appalling, or youth generally. Adorable little dipshits need to get kicked around by the world some. I'm probably just bitter because I saw some pictures of myself when I was 19 the other day.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:13 PM
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Is this tubgirl or goatse.cx for our video age or something?

I'm not going to find out.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:14 PM
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I'm not going to go check, but I believe Harvard Shirt Guy was also wearing that shirt in the Flagpole Sitta video. I see Ms. Unbearably Attractive makes a brief appearance as well.

Kottke pointed out today (Or was it yesterday? Time blurs together) that the picture quality at Vimeo does tend to be remarkably better than at the other YouTube clones. This is true, and is a +1 in Vimeo's column.

I'm watching The River Wild (1994) right now. Did y'all know John C. Reily was this movie?


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:16 PM
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Is this tubgirl or goatse.cx for our video age or something?

Maybe. Speaking of which, the photoset this image is part of, is awesome.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:17 PM
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For real, Ogged? The Unfoggetariat needs to hear your reaction, in particular. I mean, you made us watch it, after all...


Posted by: NickFranklin | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:18 PM
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the picture quality at Vimeo does tend to be remarkably better than at the other YouTube clones

Just about every site looks better than YouTube itself, but Vimeo looks very good. So does Brightcove.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:19 PM
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I didn't make you do anything. Even Jake told you not to watch it when he linked to it.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:20 PM
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30: Totally joking. I definitely brought it on myself.


Posted by: NickFranklin | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:22 PM
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Why all the vimeo hate? Y'all are lame. They look like fun.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:23 PM
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32: Yes, that's the problem exactly: I'm lame, they're fun. Ressentiment.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:32 PM
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They're not fun. They're pretty but boring.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:34 PM
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They're pretty but boring.

Yeah, they'd never eat shit out of a cup.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:36 PM
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Tweety the Destroyer concedes nothing. Dude, are you kidding around or are you in fact filled with burning hate for these people?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:36 PM
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Apparently my first year of motherhood has left me un-gross-outable. I clicked the link in 1, and all I could think was "I don't have to clean that".


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:37 PM
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I clicked on the second link in #1 and I believe I'm going to be nauseated for about the next 24 hours. Learn from my mistake!

But you know, I love the internet. The net is going to ensure that in a generation or so there will no longer be any inhibitions or prudery in the world.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:37 PM
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BURNING HATE!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:38 PM
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They look like people who like to be watched looking at themselves in a mirror.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:39 PM
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all I could think was "I don't have to clean that"

Hilarious. Reminds me not to have kids.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:39 PM
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Am I really the only person who finds those grinning schmucks a very particular kind of completely distasteful?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:39 PM
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I like you folks. And, based on four minutes of video, I like the vimeo folks. I see no contradiction. Peace, people.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:40 PM
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I should note that, unlike Sifu, I'm not burning with hate. I could care less, but my level of caring isn't really that high.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:40 PM
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Sifu, if I agreed with you, I wouldn't admit it now for fear that they'd come after me for incitement after your shooting spree.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:40 PM
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My weapon of choice is bile.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:41 PM
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Honestly, they're not my people, so to speak, but I don't feel any enmity toward them.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:42 PM
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46: Sifu vomits human remains at hipster filth.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:42 PM
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Sifu, I am with you on this one. It's only in small part due to jealousy.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:42 PM
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Here's what bugs me about them: the only reason they made that video is that they are all 100% aware of how adorable they are, and they think it's just terrific! And they went to Ivy League schools but they're still totally fun and young and have a great job and yay! How can you possibly not hate people like that?

Geez, I gotta get out of Boston. Amazing how fast the old habits come back.

What lovely, fun people! How nice they are having a nice time with the doing things and the internet! I would like to enjoy a carefully distressed name-brand cocktail with them!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:44 PM
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49: they're appropriating a culture I've grown out of and making it mindlessly self-congratulatory, dammit. What right do they have?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:45 PM
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How can you possibly not hate people like that?

I'm old and tired. I'm trying to conserve energy.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:46 PM
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The only company founder I can find a bio for has him going to Wake Forest. So there, Tweety!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:49 PM
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BURNING HATE

How can there be both BURNING HATE and croquet skills in one person? Complex.

(There must be some way to have a croquet meetup.)


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:49 PM
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"Here at upwithpeople.com, we're totally awesome! We make, like, funny videos for people like us! Adorable people! Haha! It's the 90s! What's Irony? Yay!!"

BURN BURN BURN HATE HATE HATE

54: WASPs are geniuses at sublimation. I'll take it out on the subcontinent, believe me.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:52 PM
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You know who I don't hate? Miss Douglas, Stacy Hedger.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:53 PM
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Sifu Tweety sounds lame. And dull.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:53 PM
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Tweety's not lame, he's just mourning his lost youthful innocence.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:56 PM
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Dan sounds exciting and creative.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:56 PM
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Sifu: I've that clip filled you with hate, then stay away from the original. By which I mean, go watch it and let a thousand flowers of hatred bloom.

The only thing that gives me solace is that, in the Flagpole Sitta video at least, a handful of them do look like they are familiar with awkwardness and self-doubt.

And who calls their company "a group of friends"?

Yeah, I feel like my youth is fading away without my ever having passed through the "I'M WONDERFUL! LIFE IS FULL OF PLAYFULNESS AND BEAUTY!" stage that these kids seem to be in, and this inspires in me a peculiar kind of sadness and frustration.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:57 PM
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You people are Bringing Me Down. Hooray for oblivious youth! Don't worry, they'll die too! I'm gonna go watch some television, man.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:59 PM
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Nobody can hate SultryCuteChick™.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 10:59 PM
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56: I'm in love.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:01 PM
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56: Apostropher, I'm not teh gay, but I love you, and most all of your links. Stacy Hedger, could I take you out to dinner sometime? If you're not, you know, busy?

59: Thanks! I try! You're not dead yet, you know.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:02 PM
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63: we agree?


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:02 PM
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You people are Bringing Me Down.

Not me, Ogged! I'm JimBob HappyGuy. Even though Keegan has his first hockey game way the hell over in Raleigh at six-o-fucking-clock am tomorrow morning, meaning he has to be all dressed out at 5:50, meaning I have to leave to 5:15, meaning I have to get up at 4:40 am on a Saturday morning.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:02 PM
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Yeah, I feel like my youth is fading away without my ever having passed through the "I'M WONDERFUL! LIFE IS FULL OF PLAYFULNESS AND BEAUTY!" stage that these kids seem to be in

Oh, I went through that. I was just a lot better at it than those addle-headed indie-barbies. Boring people will be the death of us all.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:03 PM
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66: god bless, and get to bed.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:04 PM
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And who calls their company "a group of friends"?

Quaker Oats?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:09 PM
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Look at this one! It's so, like, transgressive!

http://www.vimeo.com/177226

Sorry for 58, Sifu. Presumably your youthful innocence was never this false.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:09 PM
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68: Yeah, I s'pose I better. Good night, everybody.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:10 PM
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Speaking of an artistically honest attempt to represent youthful innocence and energy, I just saw "Into the Wild". Wonderful, sweet, movie. A little too earnest at times, but a great heart to it.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:12 PM
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Have you read the book?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:14 PM
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Yes, although that was a while ago. I couldn't remember a lot of the details from the book. One thing I can say is that the parents were portrayed much more negatively than I recall in the book.

There were a lot of voice-overs and quotes from the kid's writings in the movie. But really, the visual dimension to the movie allows it to do things the book just can't do.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:17 PM
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"They're not fun. They're pretty but boring."

Did you spend your ugly teenage years thinking you were 'deep?'

Also ,the soundtrack song is so awesomely generic-rock-song sounding.

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That 2girls1cup is the only thing that rivals hivetit for making the internet a net evil for my life.

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also who is the referenced girl? while the guys are quite attractive, the girls are just kinda cute.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:21 PM
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Keegan has his first hockey game way the hell over in Raleigh at six-o-fucking-clock am tomorrow morning, meaning he has to be all dressed out at 5:50, meaning I have to leave to 5:15, meaning I have to get up at 4:40 am on a Saturday morning.

I feel for you, man. I myself am giving thanks to god that PK's soccer game is at the completely reasonable hour of 10 am tomorrow. For a change.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:24 PM
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Um, the 2 girls one cup video is hilarious, people. Such an obvious and ridiculous joke.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:27 PM
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the only thing that rivals hivetit

You've not seen swap.avi, I take it. Okay really, going to bed now.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:28 PM
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77 is correct.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:34 PM
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SA page says thats 63 minutes long. Thats like a few orders of magnintued outside my attention span


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:34 PM
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fucking humourus feminists


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:35 PM
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77: I wouldn't know. I couldn't get past the first 5 seconds.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:39 PM
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77: authorial intention doesn't matter. What matters is the reader's associations and response. It's gross.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:43 PM
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Gross, but hilarious.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:44 PM
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because we ran out of hilarous and sexy video clips?


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:49 PM
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I hate all of you more with every evening that passes. Just so you know. I'm Becks-style^3.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:50 PM
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AWB! You're good times.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:52 PM
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83: And this viewer's response was HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, how ridiculous.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:52 PM
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I try to be good times. Tonight, for example, I tried to make out with the boy-from-school from two weeks ago? I and I get "In front of all these people?" WTF? I hate all of you, and your social awkwardness, and the ways you've made me respect social awkwardness.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:55 PM
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typical liberal decadance. us midwestern types get skeeved by analingus.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:56 PM
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i don't respect social awkwardness.

awb, were you on stage accpeting an award, or in the corner of a bar?


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:57 PM
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also i thought your gimmick was not likeing socially-awkward-aware boys


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-12-07 11:58 PM
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For the record, my hate for these people is not burning; it is hidden and well preserved. Actual harvard people (grad students) tend to dress like rich undergrads. The only people that wear Harvard t-shirts are legacy, or otherwise connected, fucks who feel obligated to advertise their privelege.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:00 AM
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This whole thread is Becks-style^3, obvs.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:00 AM
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89: I thought you were all about the awkwardness.

I still like you.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:01 AM
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93: you need to get out more.


Posted by: Dan | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:02 AM
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or buy a speedbag


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:07 AM
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89: My condolences, but at least you have an implicit promise. If that promise is broken, you owe us (the sociallly awkward) an apology.But I hope it isn't, and who the hell gets shy making out on account of strangers?

96: True enough, but how could you tell?


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:22 AM
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Yeah, the presence of others (except if the others are, say, your parents) is no excuse for not making out. I don't consider that a part of the awkwardness phenotype. I still think you just run into more than your fair share of lamers.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:34 AM
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i reserve the right to mock, throw popcorn at, and generally embarrass anyone who is both making out in my presence and not hot according to my own idiosynchratic standards


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:56 AM
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not saying awb fails those, but who knows what kind of square jawed doofus she was necking


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:56 AM
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except if the others are, say, your parents

Um, yeah...


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:58 AM
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Just kidding. She's totally legal.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:58 AM
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thought for the nuite: girls play submissive and unpowerful to see just what teh cahracter is of the boys they are tonguing when said boys have free reign


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 1:00 AM
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Sifu, I didn't even watch the video (too lazy to install Flash 9), but I hate everyone in it, because intense hatred is the only emotion that I admire. It inspires me to loyalty. Sadly, I must now proceed to the other thread -- the one ogged is trying to kill -- to explain to you your awfulness as a person.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 1:01 AM
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damn dude


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 1:03 AM
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OT: If one of you New Yorkers or LA people see Terrors Advocate, tell us whether it is any good.


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102: Geez, am I the only one who wants clarification here?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:03 AM
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Enough with the hating on the Vimeo people. They're nothing but innocuous, goofy kids having fun. If they're having more fun than I did when I was their age - which was like all of three years ago - then good for them. Fun is good, and the world needs more of it. In ten years they'll turn into Unfogged-type people, and hopefully by then they'll be mature enough not to hate on a new crop of Vimeo-type people just because they aren't that age any more.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:10 AM
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Did you spend your ugly teenage years thinking you were 'deep?'

A) they aren't teenagers.

B) fuck no.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:11 AM
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110: Sifu isn't Holden Caulfield grown up, he's just a bitter old man who hates the young on general principle. In ten years' time he'll hate everyone who's his age now. The wheel of life rolls on.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:14 AM
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Get off my lawn!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:16 AM
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Young people rankle my ass. Sifu especially.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:21 AM
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I'm not sure I get the obvious and intentional joke that B gets, but I did wake up in the middle of the night thinking, that's not feces (those aren't? Ben?), that's a porn enema (I assume) followed by a lumpy buterscotch pudding enema. If I were Sherlock Holmes I'd be all deducing the brand name. Hope these girls got paid, though.

hockey game way the hell over in Raleigh

I can't get used to the idea that parents who live in places where it's warm are sitting in a cold arena at 5 am. Hockey/Tampa, hockey/Carolina - I would not be able to do it. You could not make me go near ice. Hat's off to you apo.



Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:29 AM
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His team won 6-1.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:41 AM
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How much time in the sin bin?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:44 AM
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If the vimiots are really so brilliant, they'll realize that their oh-so-meta take on the whole expropriating-someone's-culture-to-sell-it-back-to-them deal is just sad and pointless. When I was their age I was, without benefit of a college degree, actually in the real, no-foolin' media, commenting on cultural product, promoting the parts of it that I thought deserved wider attention, and even producing some situations and connections of my own. What are they doing? Just sitting around making fairly obvious puns and being cute.

At least if they were gratuitously eating shit they'd be referencing Pasolini.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:44 AM
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Minneapolitan is making sense.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:48 AM
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116: One kid on the other team got two minutes for tripping, but that was the only penalty box action.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:54 AM
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Grumpy old honkies. Let's face it. The world has passed us by.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:55 AM
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Like Satan, I want everyone to join me in Hell. I delight in showing "young" people what their fate will be. I should make Goth / metal albums and shit.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:58 AM
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Right on, stras.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 7:59 AM
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Feel the hate. Feel it grow within you.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 8:09 AM
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Yay hockey. I'm about to bring my two to their TKD belt promotion tests. The sparring is fun to watch, at least.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 8:12 AM
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I'm worried about Dan. He needs to cut back on the Zoloft, but, like, gradually.


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I think they're pretty dorky no matter how old you are. They're Friends without the chippy music. I'm not hating them, but I am enjoying Sifu doing so.


Posted by: terpbball | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 8:59 AM
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When I was their age, I was working 15 hours a day in the salt mines, dreaming, dreaming of a world in which I could sit in an air-conditioned, windowed office, and lip sync music videos with my attractive coworkers. Now that I am too old to enjoy it, the existence of a scintilla of happiness among the young enrages me. Stop it, young people! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it!


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 9:18 AM
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thanks for bringing the hate, sifu. however, they aren't hip, exactly. nobody hip dorks around in a yale university shirt like that.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 9:53 AM
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128 is exactly right.

Think I'm late enough to have missed the thread.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 10:05 AM
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115: His team won 6-1. Right on.

I admire your honesty w/r/t your bitterness, Sifu. This group pushes no emotional buttons for me at all. Not their age, nor the way they dress, nor their jobs. None of it inspires the jealousy or the misery. But I know there's a group out there with my name on it, and every once in a while I run in to some of them and I get the twinge. They, of course, are oblivious, and if you saw them, you wouldn't get it either.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 10:12 AM
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Sifu should be more sympathetic to Althouse, since this is apparently just how she feels about attractive young women.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 10:14 AM
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130 Yes, since Sifu is our friend, we should support his hating. It's the right thing to do.


Posted by: terpbball | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 10:21 AM
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Oh see, here we go, Apo's link in 56. I could never be that funny in a million years, and she just acts like it's so easy.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 10:38 AM
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they're appropriating a culture I've grown out of and making it mindlessly self-congratulatory, dammit

I haven't looked at the video, just the still photo.

I'm not getting jealousy really from what Sifu says, and no, I wouldn't call those people hipsters, but something more like yuppies. Though the latter term doesn't seem to be much in use these days.

The hating on Old Navy that Tweety mentions upthread is key: it's the sanitized, privileged, clueless, scrubbed-clean set who valorize those attributes.

I'd be surprised if the hating has any serious component of jealousy in it; more like just plain disgust and rejection, made all the more heated if you've intersected with that crowd in the past and been subjected to a suggestion that of course you want to be like this too ... right?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 10:43 AM
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I read this thread at dawn, and am just now back. 134 says most of what I meant to say, especially the acuteness of Sifu's Old Navy comparison.

What it reminds me of are generations of "come join us" ads, like the one I've been seeing from the mid-sixties on a local old-tv station for the Polaroid Swinger—Meet the Swinger, the Polaroid Swinger!—or like "Come Alive! You're in the Pepsi Generation!"


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 10:58 AM
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Wouldn't you like to be a Pepper? Ha! You'll never be a Pepper, you loser!


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 11:05 AM
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Oh. Yuppies. Now I'm kind of remembering. Doesn't this happen whenever there's a bulge in the population? Mercilessly marketed to, with the accompanying annoying mythology of "here comes the fantastic shiny new generation"? Of course my age group has been dogged by "here come the insignifigant losers", but I don't see how we're any less privileged, really. More and more it just seems like hype.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 11:17 AM
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Oh, I'm a motherfucking Pepper, mcmc. Don't you try to take even that away from me.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 11:40 AM
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There's a whole lot of projection going on in this thread.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 11:49 AM
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This is new how?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 11:50 AM
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I didn't know you were young, Stras. Like Sifu. Now I have to hate you.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 11:54 AM
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I'm with John's surprise about your being young, Stras. Normally it takes decades to approach your level of political alienation.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 11:57 AM
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You two have got to be kidding. Isn't political alienation a graduation requirement at most schools?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:00 PM
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Seemingly for anyone born between about 1962 and 1977, hating liberals was the requirement.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:49 PM
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You'll never be a Pepper, you loser!

The thread convergence here -- I was just thinking about my comment on the resume thread about how I didn't even open letters from people looking for jobs anymore -- made me laugh out loud. To converge with yet another, though, I can't really say this to anyone, lest I end up like J. Fitzgerald Page.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:51 PM
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I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 12:53 PM
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114: I guarantee you that's chocolate ice cream.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 2:00 PM
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The vomit seems pretty real, though.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 2:08 PM
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Bah. None of it is real.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 2:16 PM
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I would have guessed Stras was young. (Though I would have guessed Sifu was younger than he is, so what do I know.)


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 2:22 PM
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149: You keep right on telling yourself that. Then go find swap.avi.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 2:27 PM
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The hating on Old Navy that Tweety mentions upthread is key

I'll have you know that my favorite pair of jeans is from old navy, haters.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 2:30 PM
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I'll have you know that my favorite pair of jeans is from old navy, haters.

So the people in the video are hipsters after all?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 2:38 PM
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151: I am completely not interested in searching out misogynist grossout videos, for some strange reason.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 2:45 PM
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Too much on your plate, I imagine.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 4:05 PM
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153: No, they are Peppers.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 5:32 PM
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Seemingly for anyone born between about 1962 and 1977, hating liberals was the requirement.

So now you have an upper age boundary for stras.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 10-13-07 6:05 PM
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How much time in the sin bin?

Hey Tim, Keegan got his first stay in the penalty box during this past Saturday's game.


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