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Gawd, I hope you're kidding. It looks half-made.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:08 PM
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Even cuter!


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:09 PM
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Well I guess SCMT won't be looking all fancy in the bedchamber.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:09 PM
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2: Terrifying. It looks like some horrendous underwear experiment gone awry. Or as if the underwear was a living thing that had been cut and sliced, and is now oozing its frothy, confection-colored blood out on your ass.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:12 PM
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4 - What? Are you sure you're scrolling down to the right picture?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:13 PM
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Becks, she looks like she's stepped into a cake.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:15 PM
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Oh! I get it! They look like clams!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:16 PM
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Oy. Do not want.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:17 PM
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In reality I would probably never wear these. I'm a very boring person and tend to find one style of panties I like and then just buy 10 pairs. But I think these are adorable and am glad they exist.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:19 PM
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I don't think anyone can argue against rufflebutt underwear on little girls, though. That shit's adorable.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:20 PM
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First Blade Runner, now this. What's wrong, Becks?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:21 PM
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They would probably look awfully cute on some particular person. I am not she.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:21 PM
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What, you're just blatantly stealing post titles now?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:21 PM
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They forgot to photoshop the model's legs in the picture in 5. It looks like she might actually have human skin.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:24 PM
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Ogged is right. Dangerously human looking in places.

Here I am in Wisconsin. It's cold. I mean, it was 89 at home on Saturday. This is *much* better.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:26 PM
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Man, that shit is cute.

I may be wrong, but I may be the sort of person who could pull this off. Although I have to say the ruffles seem kind of impractical for wearing with pants. Better to wear under a skirt, no? Or just for fun playtimes.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:26 PM
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The ruffles keep the snow off your ass.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:27 PM
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Driving over the state line the first three signs I read were "Welcome to Wisconsin," "FIREWORKS, CHEESE" and "Beloit: Gateway to Wisconsin."


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:27 PM
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If you drive up to WI from Chicago you go past a state sign that says "BONG RECREATION AREA." It's a miracle it's ever there.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:28 PM
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FIREWORKS, CHEESE

Just about sums the place up, I guess.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:28 PM
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14: I don't think they forgot. That's the point of the ruffles: to draw the eye away from the Visible Human legs.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:28 PM
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I'll note that I've never been to Wisconsin and am going entirely by stereotypes here.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:30 PM
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18: the first time I ever smoked pot somebody pointed out that "Beloit" was the sound of a marble being dropped in a toilet. I laughed for at least an hour.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:32 PM
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I might wear the ruffly underpants. It would have to be under a skirt, though.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:33 PM
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Wisconsin is fucking great. They drink a shit ton, everything is fried and they have CHEESE CURDS, and it's really really pretty. The people I know who are from there 1) like to party 2) aren't prudish about food 3) swear a lot. I love that shit, man.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:33 PM
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Teeters right on the edge between cute and blegh. They probably look better in pictures then they would on a real person, though.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:33 PM
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I don't think anyone can argue against rufflebutt underwear on little girls, though.

Eh, I'm sure someone can, and I'd bet someone already has. But I agree: on toddlers, it's adorable.

On grown women, though? Well, whatever, and far be it from me to issue arbitrary edicts pertaining to matters of fashion, or pertaining to any matters whatsoever. But I have to say that grown women dressing as little girls makes me feel a little uneasy...perhaps because it makes me think of little girls dressing as grown women?


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:34 PM
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25: I was thinking the same thing! Under a sort of poofy skirt or dress.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:35 PM
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aren't prudish about food

There are people who are prudish about food?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:36 PM
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27: everybody else only likes it because it makes you uncomfortable, IA.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:36 PM
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29: By "prudish" I mean "picky and only like things a certain way and just so". You know the type I'm talking about. That will go to any restaurant, Indian, Cuban, Italian, American or Chinese, and order something that amounts to "inoffensive chicken."

I hate those people.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:39 PM
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I like the first pair, they're all squidgly.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:39 PM
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I don't think anyone can argue against rufflebutt underwear on little girls, though.

Sorry Becks, but as a longtime child victim of rufflebutt, I will argue against it. Even as a toddler I hated the we- couldn't- make- your- dress- quite long- enough- so- here's- something- to- decorate your- bum- that- we'll- all- be- looking- at thing. The horror.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:39 PM
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31: Oh yeah, those people.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:41 PM
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That said, I'd wear those under the right skirt.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:42 PM
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Me too.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:42 PM
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Those people , I mean.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:43 PM
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Right obviously.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:43 PM
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15: This is *much* better.

Of course. There's nothing healthier than a cold climate. If we weren't meant to wear heavy woollens, then what's the purpose of sheep?


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:44 PM
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What a pair we'll make, Penny, flouncing gaily along the boardwalk with unadventurous eaters festooned gaily beneath our skirts.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:44 PM
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39: comedy?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:44 PM
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It's a date! Great opening line, Sifu!


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:46 PM
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I want those skulls boyshorts. Or these. Hott!

The ruffles are cute. I don't know what all the fuss upthread is about.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:49 PM
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I want those skulls boyshorts. Or these. Hott!

So close (to comity)...

The ruffles are cute.

...and yet, so far.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:50 PM
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Will this be an "I am a [man/woman] of the people and my tastes in food and drink so illustrate; prissy foods that I scorn include..." or an "I am the sexiest sex machine who ever sexed in Upper Sexington, Sexachusetts, but my sexy, sexy sexing is populist and frank, without need or desire for..." thread?

If the former, I'd like to state that all food should be consumed in bar form; if the latter, that all bars should be consumed during sex.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:51 PM
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I don't look good in babygirl things, but I'd buy 'em just for the feel of them under a skirt. Plus, I think they'd provide a few moments of mutual tactile delight. For shape though, those skulls panties were made for me.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:52 PM
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for the feel of them under a skirt

I would think the ruffly parts might itch, no?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:53 PM
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Of course. There's nothing healthier than a cold climate. If we weren't meant to wear heavy woollens, then what's the purpose of sheep?

Or toilets with no glass in the windows?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:54 PM
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I would think the ruffly parts might itch, no?

Deliciously, I'd think.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:55 PM
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47: ruffled edges on panties do not itch, at least from the second-party perspective, so I don't know why ruffled butts would, either.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:56 PM
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50: They do itch a little, under pants, unfortunately. But I think the issue here is not the ruffles themselves but the stitching that attaches all those ruffles. Most panty-butt-parts are smooth unstitched fabric.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 7:58 PM
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I'd only wear a pair of those rufflebutt horrors in order to confuse people with my panty lines.


Posted by: Lucy | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:04 PM
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51: you would think the baby oil and/or Gold Bond would protect against that.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:06 PM
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Lord, do I love Gold Bond. All hail!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:08 PM
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I would look and feel horrid in all of them, I feel sure.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:11 PM
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Or toilets with no glass in the windows?

Well, naturally. Been there, done that, and I'll spare everyone the gruesome details of that time I got frostbite on my left big toe because I had a hole in my boot (o! the burning! after the numbness...and I'm lucky I didn't lose that toe...). Those toilets are what will make a man of you, or else a woman, of course, as the case may be.


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:14 PM
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ruffles! gah! no! wouldn't you feel infantile?

my underwear of choice is the ultra low cotton hipster from gap. as long as they're making them, i'm buying them.


Posted by: catherine | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:42 PM
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I am a convert to nice cotton boyshorts. I regret to report that my favorites so far is made by Calvin Klein.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:47 PM
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favorites... is

The end of Daylight Saving Time is hard for me.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:47 PM
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57: those are truly snappy casual, catherine.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:48 PM
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57: Those are cute. I wish the hips rode a little higher, but I'm like that.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:49 PM
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Actually I take it back. Nothing casual about them. What did catherine just reveal about her wax's nationality?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:50 PM
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This was a pretty close-run thing (I'm black).


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:53 PM
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They're all good! Let a thousand panties bloom!


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:53 PM
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panties bloomers


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:55 PM
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I'd have to resist the temptation to prance around posing like the Coppertone toddler in the ruffled panties.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:57 PM
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knickers


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:57 PM
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bloom pant


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:57 PM
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Cala, why would you want to resist that temptation?


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 8:58 PM
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Why would you have to resist it?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:00 PM
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Weinerpwnd by mrh so I rephrase my response:

I'd have to resist the temptation to prance around posing like the Coppertone toddler in the ruffled panties.

Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
Well cmon


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:01 PM
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63: Nice. Audacious opening.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:01 PM
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63: didn't seem that close, Ben.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:01 PM
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72 is correct.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:02 PM
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Tweety, your keen and lively interest in women's undergarments, which may or may not border on an unhealthy obsession, is ... interesting. Are you prepared to talk fabrics? or are you yet another rank amateur?


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:03 PM
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63: didn't seem that close, Ben.

Between moves 8 (c5) and, say, 17 I was pretty sure I was just staving off defeat. Anyway, it seemed close to me, especially since I know I tend to overlook things and the endgame involved a lot of risks.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:04 PM
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75: I'm not that rank! I showered like... I dunno, recently.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:06 PM
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77: So you don't know your natural fibres from your nylons and rayons, is what you're saying. Observed, without annotation.


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:12 PM
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Silk is neat.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:13 PM
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Ben, you derailed a panties thread to talk about ... chess?

Seriously?


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:13 PM
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Ben likes the realm of empirical experience.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:15 PM
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You're only aiding and abetting, mrh. But watch where I go now:

So you don't know your natural fibres from your nylons and rayons

Soooooo, if I remember right, "polyester" names an unnatural fibre, and the term can plausibly be decomposed into poly + ester, "poly" meaning "many", of course, and "ester" meaning "chemical of a sort some instances of which smells nice". So what I want to know, science nerds, is whether I can get a fabric made out of the smell of vanilla or oranges or some shit like that.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:16 PM
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It was strip chess. By the end, ben ended up wearing just his ruffled panties.

Did you not get the photos mrh?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:16 PM
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Oooh, silk. Someday when I am rich, all my underwear will be silk and all my socks will be cashmere.

There will be NO ruffles on the silk underwear.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:17 PM
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Sexytopic + Benw-lfs-n = Nerdtalk.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:17 PM
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"some instances of which smell nice", that is. Remember, kids, there's nothing sexier than subject-verb agreement! Especially when the agreement is to indulge in NSA sex.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:19 PM
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It was strip chess.

Am I the only one who has devoted literally minutes of his life to coming up with rules for "Strip X," where "X" is any board game on the shelf?

I'm not wild about silk underwear, to be honest, either from the first-person or second-person perspective.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:20 PM
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I don't like silk undies. I really like lace, at the very least on the edges.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:22 PM
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That is not what ester means, Ben, although esters do tend to have characteristic scents. Also, the kinds of esters found in scents are, I believe, quite differently adulterated than the ones found in synthetic fibers, but ask a (various) Dr. Science on that one.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:22 PM
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87: Strip Mousetrap? Really?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:22 PM
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I don't own Mousetrap, Stanley, but I bet I could come up with a decent strip version of it.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:23 PM
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87: strip pente! Strip Hungry Hungry Hippos! Strip Magic: The Strippering!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:23 PM
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I know that's not what ester means.

Strip Risk?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:24 PM
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Of course, the original term for ester was hadassa.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:24 PM
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Strip Risk?

Easy. One simple version would be to simply allow a player to exchange an article of clothing for more armies at the beginning of the turn, or for an extra die when defending against attack.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:25 PM
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you derailed a panties thread to talk about ... chess?

Well, chess makes some people think about sex. (It takes a while for this to devolve into mayhem, but it's worth it. Appalling, certainly. But hilarious.)


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:25 PM
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93: "meaning," in your lexicon, carries a lot more meanings than I imagine meaning meaning.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:25 PM
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I don't think strip games are that fun when one or more players is not nudity-averse. There has to be fear for any such game to work.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:26 PM
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the original term for ester was hadassa

Oh, very nicely done. It's just too bad about your insistence on lace underwear.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:26 PM
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There has to be fear for any such game to work.

Exactly what I think about Badminton.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:27 PM
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82/86: if it's a modern fiber, it'll smell like sweat pretty quick if you are wearing it. Hope that helps.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:28 PM
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I don't think strip games are that fun when one or more players is not nudity-averse. There has to be fear for any such game to work.

Au contraire. One could be non-nudity-averse in general, but have fear (even the good kind) about being naked in particular company.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:29 PM
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Oh, very nicely done.

Agreed.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:33 PM
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I quite like the idea of Strip Risk.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:34 PM
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Strip Monopoly sounds good too.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:34 PM
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96: Gawd, what a bad idea for a TV show. That's set-up for a disaster.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:36 PM
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Strip Monopoly

I suppose the obvious would work: an article of clothing in lieu of rent, which could be purchased back at the original rent amount. Plus, clothing as a get out of jail free card.

I think the activities for UnfoggeDCon are pretty well decided!


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:38 PM
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble, indeed.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:41 PM
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That's set-up for a disaster.

You think?

"I'd like to move my cock in your—"

Heaven bless cable access.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:41 PM
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Strip Clue(do), but you first have to dress up as one of the characters (1972 edition of course).


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:46 PM
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I have a panties-related question. Does one wear them with tights? I have, for pretty much my entire life, not done so, but recently, while changing for our high school reunion, sometimes-commenter Tonks was surprised to note my failure to do so. Aren't panties and tights somewhat contraindicated, or am I gross? There's a little cotton pad there in tights, as if panties are not wanted. Right?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 9:58 PM
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I never wear panties with tights, but you know, that's me.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:00 PM
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Um, laydeez?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:01 PM
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So what I want to know, science nerds, is whether I can get a fabric made out of the smell of vanilla or oranges or some shit like that.

Something only has a smell if it's volatile, that is, if it evaporates and wafts up to your nose. Once something is polymerized into plastic it's no longer in a single-molecule form that can evaporate, unless you actually burn it or corrode it with acid or something, in which case it produces all kinds of unwelcome volatiles as well. The smells that plastics have are actually artifacts of the manufacturing process, I think.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:02 PM
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Don't many laydeez hate the word "panties"? Maybe that's why they're not answering.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:02 PM
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Ned is Dr. Science-guy!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:03 PM
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I just recently had this conversation with my girlfriend, AWB. My thinking was the same as yours, and she treated it as male ignorance.


Posted by: destroyer | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:03 PM
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117, your girlfriend sounds like she'd fit right in here.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:04 PM
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With that being said, some soft plastic things, especially rubber masks sometimes, have a great chocolatey smell. I wonder what that is.

But whatever it is, it isn't the molecule that was polymerized to make the plastic. That has been conclusively changed into a non-smellable form.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:06 PM
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I generally do wear panties with tights, AWB.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:06 PM
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Whereas this guy would be easily dispatched on these hallowed grounds. What a douchebag.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:06 PM
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I always wear underwear under my tights. This poll puts me in a slight minority, but the poll also reports that a substantial minority of women prefer to wear garter belts with their stockings, so its reliability is in some doubt.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:07 PM
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120: What's your reasoning, Blume? I could be convinced it is the right thing to do.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:08 PM
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I think his definition of "sexy" is something more like "glamorous". It's a meaningless article.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:08 PM
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Something only has a smell if it's volatile, that is, if it evaporates and wafts up to your nose. Once something is polymerized into plastic blah blah blah

Right, I know that. Or something like that. I mean, what I know is that the polymer itself wouldn't smell. What I want to know is whether you could take, say, ethyl hexanoate, which wikipedia tells me smells of strawberries, and make a fabric out of it, which you could then tell people was made out of the smell of strawberries!!! even though it itself is odorless, or whether only certain esters are suitable for the process.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:10 PM
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124: I actually agree with some of his definitions of sexy v. beautiful, but his tone is pure evil patriarchal condescending loser prescriptive asshole.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:11 PM
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I don't know how to find a good list of monomers that are made into polyesters. It seems to be a pretty big category of plastics. Go do your own dirty work.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:13 PM
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I admit that in my male ignorance I had never considered the possibility that women would not wear panties under their tights.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:14 PM
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It's not like I do it to be sexy. I just figured it was like wearing two condoms--not really necessary, and possibly detrimental to health.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:16 PM
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123: Well, it's probably because that's the way my mom dressed me when I was little, and I've never consciously considered it since then. But I do often wear tights multiple times before washing them, so that's a reason for underwear.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:19 PM
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Semper ubi sub ubi, ladies.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:20 PM
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But must we semper ubi sub ubi sub sub ubi?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:21 PM
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30: I don't think I could get away with multiple wearings. I has a flavor. But then, I haven't tried panties, so what do I know?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:26 PM
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OH YEAH

THIS SONG IS AWESOME


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:27 PM
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I guess I've just always thought of tights as analogous to pants rather than underpants.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:28 PM
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134 is making me feel square.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:29 PM
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At last! An 'awesome'!!


Posted by: Herr Torquewrench | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:30 PM
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133: yeah, that's why you wear the underwear. Tights are somewhere in the in-between zone: more wearings than the one-day-only underwear, but not as many as the not-wash-for-weeks jeans.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:32 PM
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You can wash jeans?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:33 PM
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If you wait long enough, they walk themselves to the washing machine. It's pretty awesome.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:34 PM
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My mom used to make fun of me for washing my jeans every time I wore them. Now I wash them after two or three wearings. Fastidious am I.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:35 PM
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I once wore the same pair of pants for about six months. They weren't jeans, though.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:36 PM
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You'll wear your clothes out washing 'em, my dad says.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:37 PM
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You're not supposed to wash them while wearing them.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:37 PM
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Tell that to ogged.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:38 PM
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I just learned that the decals and whatnot on T-shirts last longer if you turn them inside out when laundering them. This seems obvious now but I never thought of it before.

Also, it is possible to wear boxers more than once. But not skintight undergarments.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:40 PM
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I just learned that the decals and whatnot on T-shirts last longer if you turn them inside out when laundering them. This seems obvious now but I never thought of it before.

I also recently learned this. I had been wondering why the designs on my t-shirts kept cracking and disintegrating.

Also, it is possible to wear boxers more than once.

Possible, sure, but would anyone really admit to doing this?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:42 PM
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I don't think strip games are that fun when one or more players is not nudity-averse.

Simply restates the classic line from Metropolitan:

Playing strip poker with an exhibitionist somehow takes the challenge away.

Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:43 PM
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I'm getting ready to go on tour again. I think I'll be packing a few underwear changes, a few pairs of socks, and a couple of undershirts, and some Gold Bond. Same outfit daily. Woo! I'll smell great.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:44 PM
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No pants?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:45 PM
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The same pants and outershirt each day.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:45 PM
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I think the implication is only one pair of pant and only one (non-under)shirt.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:46 PM
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147: hell yeah. I do that any chance I get.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:46 PM
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Pwned on an intensely boring detail of someone else's life.

Why does no one want to guess the awesome song?

If I told you "I'm listening to the greatest rock song of the current millennium", what song would you think it was?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:47 PM
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I'm not praising this lifestyle, but we're severely constrained by the cubic footage of a Ford Windstar with five people and a shit-ton of gear in it.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:47 PM
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154: Satellite, Dave Matthews Band?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:49 PM
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I had been assuming that the list in 149 was exhaustive.


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154: "Our Country"!


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:50 PM
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155, the shit-ton should drown out any other noisome smells you might produce.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:51 PM
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157: I have to wear something, teo. What kind of rock band do you take us for?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:51 PM
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Attention laydeez: I can't offer you much, but I do wear clean clothes every day. I also shower.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:52 PM
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Clearly, teo does not rock.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:52 PM
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And yet somehow it's the rock musicians of questionable hygiene who seem to get all the girls.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:53 PM
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Then how are you gonna attract the laydeez with your animal scent?


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:53 PM
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teo does not rock.

True. But I'm very clean!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:53 PM
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163: We wish. Some of us remain tragically unclaimed!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:54 PM
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Then how are you gonna attract the laydeez with your animal scent?

I'll describe it in comments.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:54 PM
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Some of us remain tragically unclaimed!

Hey there.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:55 PM
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Hey there.

Isn't this what Butt-Head says when approaching women?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:56 PM
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I don't know how to transliterate that tongue rolling purring sound, but imagine it in response to 167.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:57 PM
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166: Piano's! This Saturday! Be claimed! Scents free o' charge.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:57 PM
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170: So imagined. Rowr.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:57 PM
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How many words to a scent?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:58 PM
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14: For some reason that model's blood appears to be black. But that LSD-like flush look on legs is hot hot hot hot


One should never wash jeans.

One can wear boxers 2-3 days in the cool months, with an airing in between, but only for a few hours in the warm months.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:58 PM
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A few hours? You mean two pairs per day?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:59 PM
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171: Fer serious? We should meet up! Although Pianos on a Saturday is a frightening scene these days.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 10:59 PM
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You coming 'round these parts any time soon, Stan?


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176: We're also playing Goodbye Blue Monday on Sunday, which is more in your 'hood, I think.

177: Nope. Gas prices suck.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:02 PM
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dude 124 is coming in slightly on the defensive/arrogant side, but i like him.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:02 PM
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Stanley play Boston.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:03 PM
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yeah 2-3 pairs/day


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:03 PM
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180: No Boston this time around. NYC weekend? Two shows!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:04 PM
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So I'm guessing no Austin dates, Stanley?

Damn.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:05 PM
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183: We applied for SXSW. So....nothing.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:06 PM
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Gas prices suck.

Tell me about it. I ran out of gas today, and when I filled up I realized that prices were about $.10/gal higher than the last time I filled up.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:06 PM
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the only things i like touching my skin are wool, linen, and cotton, in that order.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:06 PM
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GBM is rather out of my particular way, but I bet we could get a crew of folks to show up and find out who wants to sex Mutumbo during a particularly quiet song break at one venue or the other.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:06 PM
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186: NO PEOPLES.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:07 PM
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is the point of rufflebutt unders to make the ass appear larger?


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:08 PM
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wool, linen, and cotton.....IS PEOPLES!!11!ONNOEZ


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:09 PM
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NO PEOPLES.

Just sheep.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:09 PM
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187: I'm down. I'm in NYC Saturday and Sunday. We could do a day thing, too.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:12 PM
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And when I say I ran out of gas, I mean literally. The car stopped.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:12 PM
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I am in the blessed reduced wash period of NE life. In the summer, I sweat balls because it's 85 and humid. In the winter, for some reason walking anywhere sucks the moisture from my body into my clothes. In the (NE-optional) spring and fall, I can do laundry no more than once a week. Because my life is small, this fills me with pride.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:13 PM
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193: You had your date with you in the car though, right? Smoooove!


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:29 PM
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No, just me. My next date's not until Saturday.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:30 PM
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You could "accidentally" run out of gas again.

On second thought, maybe that's a bad idea.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:31 PM
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It once happened to my parents half way between here and Santa Fe. I hate this car.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:32 PM
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The next date is in her neck of the woods, anyway. As was the last one, come to think of it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:32 PM
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Is this the 18 year old alcoholic?


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:33 PM
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No, this is the 19-year-old Orthodox Jew.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:34 PM
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Running out of gas with her in the car would be a fun, mutually rewarding adventure.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:35 PM
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Well, I just filled up the tank, so that adventure will have to wait for a future date.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:36 PM
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The Larry David ski-lift episode comes to mind. In other voyeuristic relationship news, I conclude that AWB must have had some kind of luck, because she hasn't mentioned the word "June" in like two weeks.


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Judging from the other thread, I doubt it.

Anyway, I should go to bed. Tonight's my last night in this godforsaken mansion; hooray!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:43 PM
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If she's an Orthodox Jew, you'll have to marry to ever touch her bare skin, no? Less gossip for Unfogged!

This has been an illuminating thread...I think I'm ruining two of my favorite jeans by washing them after every two or three wearings.

Stanley: coming to DC?


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204: Still June. Just gone somewhat dormant. I go out a lot, more than I have in years, but I'm trying to break old, easy patterns.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:45 PM
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206 to 201, among others.

Also: this has been an awesome Unfogged thread! Doff your panties and take a bow, everybody!


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:47 PM
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206: no DC show this time around. Philly. And Richmond. Full schedule here, as long as I'm shilling.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:52 PM
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207: Dormant? I 'd call that a pause to maintain optempo. I just flirted successfully tonight for the first time in ages, and am quite pleased with myself. As you sink into hermitry, the small pleasures are magnified.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:54 PM
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Richmond, but no DC? Pffft. This is our nation's capitol we're talking about.


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211: If you're offering us a show on 11/14, we're only too willing to play. DC's harder to play than NYC. Fact.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 5-07 11:57 PM
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I wish I was connected enough to do that. You're right that DC doesn't have enough small clubs, in the city it seems like it's only Rock and Roll Hotel, 9:30 Club, and that other one.

Maybe you could play the Flophouse.


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I'm holding out for my re-drum-off with Spackerman. But I appreciate the good will.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 12:05 AM
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Where in Richmond, young Stanley?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 3:50 AM
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169: That's "Uh huh uh, hey, bay-beh... Come to Butt-Head...."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 5:26 AM
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I also recently learned this. I had been wondering why the designs on my t-shirts kept cracking and disintegrating.

It also preserves the colors. It's a best-practices technique for laundry-doing.

Also, use cold water wherever feasible; bonus points for saving energy.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 6:24 AM
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and a couple of undershirts

As long as we're on undergarment etiquette, can someone tell me when it became preferred practice to wear crew neck undershirts under v-neck shirts? OK, I know it's been forever, but why?


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Running out of gas with her in the car would be a fun, mutually rewarding adventure.

I once managed to run out of gas while driving my boss back from a client meeting. I was the lowest guy on the totem pole, we were driving through a snowy mountain road in Austria, and I didn't take notice of the little light on the dashboard of the rental car that indicated we were almost out of fuel (it had been a stressful day).

I got to hike through the snow in my suit and loafers to the next village to bum a liter of gasoline from a farmhouse--enough to make it to the next service station.

When we finally made it to Vienna that evening, we ended up with his wife in a bar called "Spiritus Sanctus" that played Mozart at ear-splitting volume and had little shrines to composers and poets in sconces on the walls. We drank tequila until I had to be dragged back to the hotel. So ended my 24th birthday.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 6:56 AM
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You're right that DC doesn't have enough small clubs

Too bad there's no more DC Space. It was an old alternative art space on E St., around the corner from the old 9:30. I blame a couple shows there in the early 80's for the fact that I'm already wondering about hearing aids.

I used to think DC was a decent music city - is that not true any more? Ah, what the republican revolution has wrought.


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I always wear underwear under tights, AWB. Part of that is a remnant of my high school's "two layer rule", which was that there must be a minimum of two layers under your skirt between your lady bits and God.

(tights + underwear or underwear + shorts or tights + underwear + shorts)


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:27 AM
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I've never known anyone who didn't wear underwear under tights.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:32 AM
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221: That rule makes perfect sense. God can see into the inner recesses of one's heart, but is easily foiled by an extra layer of cotton.


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:36 AM
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I've never known anyone who didn't wear underwear under tights.

I have observed data points supporting both positions, but one argument in favor of AWB's practice is that the pictures on the package always show the women wearing tights without anything else.

OTOH, I am sympathetic to Blume's re-wearing philosophy on practical grounds.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:40 AM
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223: See, I was thinking that Becks's was a weirdly prurient god. I feel sure there is some connection between that and her love of frightening underwear, but I'm unsure what it is.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:42 AM
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two layers under your skirt between your lady bits and God the HS quarterback. Otherwise known as "defense in depth".


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:46 AM
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221: Unfortunately, the online bumper sticker maker won't create a permalink to 'God Hates Camel Lips'.


Posted by: spaz | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:48 AM
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What is this with you and the quarterback? Yesterday he was a nightmare threat to daughters born and unborn.

Ours was a nice kid, who got what he wanted, but was I think easy to avoid, and none too bright, neither.


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Ours was a nice kid

So was ours, actually. One of the best.

I was speaking of the proverbial HS quarterack, and alluding to the discussion of yesterday.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:52 AM
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My wife is one who seems to dislike the word "panties," but I wouldn't draw any conclusions. I certainly don't have a big enough date set to track usage outside fora like this.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 7:54 AM
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the pictures on the package always show the women wearing tights without anything else

That's probably because underwear + tights is pretty unsexy. Actually, tights in general are pretty unsexy. But so practical in comparison to giant ouchie elastic around your thighs or to garter contraptions.


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Or those stockings with the silicone garters that are supposed to stay up of their own accord, but in fact do not.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 8:04 AM
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data set, although date set kinda works, although seriously out of date. I see many more than I speak about.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 8:05 AM
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Not to be a scold, but when one's data set conflicts with a stereotype, one should probably make an effort to stop citing the stereotype. At the very least, we need fresh stereotypes.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 8:09 AM
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My mother wore her nylons without underwear, which I always thought was gross. But then, I still pointed and laughed at the girls in ballet who wore underwear under their tights and leotards, so I suppose I'm just inconsistant.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 8:20 AM
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I'm sure you were very nice when you were the star quarterback, JMcQ.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 8:20 AM
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Are you kidding? Everyone knows hot chicks don't give it up for nice guys.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 8:26 AM
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but when one's data set conflicts with a stereotype, one should probably make an effort to stop citing the stereotype

Mrs. Ruprecht dated the HS quarterback (yeah, she was *that* girl), and he really did fit the stereotype: excessive self-regard, drunken lechery, abusive 'roid rages, the whole nine yards. He got recruited to an NCAA Division I football program, but ended up playing backup behind a guy who won the Heisman. I think today he has a landscaping business or something.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 9:04 AM
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someone make a new thread.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 9:07 AM
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Ok.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 9:23 AM
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An ex of mine had a couple pairs of those. They were very cute on her, but primarily for fun playtimes.


Posted by: ptm | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 10:12 AM
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Re: 146: T-shirt decals/printing: They also last longer if the shirts are air-dried instead being tossed into the dryer.

Re: 232: Thigh-highs: LB, you may have tried the wrong brand. I swear by Jockey-for-Her, loathing tights/pantyhose as I do.

Ruffled panties? The fetishists will be thrilled...


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11- 6-07 11:58 AM
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I have a pair of (cotton, thank you) underwear with skulls all over them and ruffles on the butt. They're awesome.

You can only really wear them under non-skin tight jeans, though, otherwise the ruffles just look like some kind of weird crunched-up fabric. Which I guess they are.


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the ruffles just look like some kind of weird crunched-up fabric

Or, like, elephant skin on your but.


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