Re: I Will Destroy Terry Laughlin

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Swimming just isn't as awesome as Lichtenberg, ogged. Sorry.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:34 PM
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Eight to go!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:35 PM
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I'm going to close the thread at nine.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:37 PM
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4!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:38 PM
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I'm going to close the thread at nine.

That's how you roll.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:38 PM
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That's how you roll.

Man's gotta do.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:39 PM
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Maybe if you made the take of snapping and rolling the hips a little more suggestive. For example, "When Nystrand is taking it slow, he rolls his hips, IYKWIM." It's base, but sex does sell.

More seriously, I just joined a gym and bought myself some brand new goggles and I was thinking today that it would be nice if I actually knew how to swim with halfway decent form. Suddenly, these swimming posts seem much more important.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:39 PM
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"I am who I am."


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:40 PM
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9!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:41 PM
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It's so touching when Ben feels threatened. 10!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:44 PM
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Let the record show that I was as good as my word.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:44 PM
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I guess I can comment on this thread now. Way to encourage him, guys.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:46 PM
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That first video is perhaps the most fetishistic, sexy thing I've ever seen on the internet. Ogged, my most profound gratitude.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:47 PM
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Sweet!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:50 PM
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I'm not sure that first video is safe for work.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:52 PM
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Seriously?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:56 PM
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Logically, the most fetishistic, sexy thing on the internet would not be safe for work.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:57 PM
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Not necessarily, Ned.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 7:59 PM
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I like the neoprene (?) sleeves and leggings.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:02 PM
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He says they're his leg warmers from biking, so I don't think they're neoprene, but I don't know from cycling.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:03 PM
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It could be that bave just doesn't get out much on the internet, though.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:04 PM
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I can't swim.

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Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:11 PM
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No man knows my browser history.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:15 PM
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Don't be naive, Bave. They watch. They know.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:20 PM
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Does he snap his hips? Of course not.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:22 PM
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Seriously?

Semi seriously, in the sense of "if a co-worker/boss sees me watching this I'm going to be comic fodder."


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:28 PM
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You need to tell them that all the guys are gaying it up these days.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-11-07 8:47 PM
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sprint workouts are awesome. we had something like those but with a weight stack and cable, and they'd only go about 10 yards. we annoyed our coach by trying to do two at once. also fun was the big piece of surgical tubing, swimming against it to build a more efficient stroke, and swimming with it to get used to swimming fast.


Posted by: water moccasin | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 12:48 AM
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Does the world need sport specific social networking sites? Or would a Facebook app be better? I'm not sure I'd be happy putting all my workout data (and there is a fair bit) on, say, my Facebook profile, but I'd like to have it online somewhere. Am I a freak or does everyone compartmentalise their life like this.


Posted by: W. Breeze | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 4:08 AM
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Does the world need sport specific social networking sites?

Who knows, it might cut down on the swimmin^hbaseball threads on political blogs.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 4:22 AM
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17 and 18 are funny. As if "necessity" was the only component of logic!


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 5:45 AM
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Terry Laughlin really is an excellent coach and was a big reason why I became a good swimmer.

You have to exercise care before you sign up for a total immerson clinic though. Make sure you know who is going to be running it.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 7:01 AM
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OK we've discussed this before, but why don't you join a team? A real life community of good swimmers seems like it would improve your swimming and fitness a lot more than u-tube. The laziness cop is bogus if you swim every day. It must be shyness and dislike of competition.


Posted by: spaz | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 7:18 AM
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Ogged has a fear of failure. He is also secretly afraid to race me. One would think that a svelte young man who regularly practices wouldn't have such a fear of a fat old man who does not practice.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 7:22 AM
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The most interesting thing about that UW vid (and hinted at in 28), is that those workouts look a whole lot like what my club coach was doing 20+ years ago. Rather than arm/leg warmers, weight vests, buckets, sneakers, and tennis balls, we had tights, T-shirts, surgical tubing tied to the starting blocks, old steel weights on webbing, sneakers, and swimming with our fists balled.

That said, ogged, my hunch is that those type of workouts aren't particularly effective until one has already built a very solid base. I'd bet that the UW teams were putting in over 50,000yds/week (plus weight lifting/dryland stuff) in September and October. The cool circuit workouts would get one in shape, certainly, and relieve the boredom of the endless black line punctuated periodically by turns. However, I think their real purpose is fine tuning strokes, increasing arm turnover, and increasing explosiveness. Those don't come until one's already pretty far along in terms of stroke quality and base fitness.


Posted by: phred | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 7:30 AM
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36!

w-lfs-n had the right idea, of course.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 7:34 AM
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Surgerical tubing is really fun, but dangerous when it snaps. A friend spent some time in the hospital from stretching the tube too far.

Jake, Phred and spaz are on my DC Unfogged relay. Ogged, you can have Lizardbreath and Apo.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 7:57 AM
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why don't you join a team?

Don't try to shame the loners, spaz.

workouts aren't particularly effective until one has already built a very solid base

Yeah, no doubt. I think the coach says as much toward the end of the video. And I'm glad you're still reading because sometime next year, water moccasin wants Unfogged to put together a masters team.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:00 AM
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Is spaz a swimmer?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:01 AM
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I dont know about spaz. I thought water moccasin was a regular's fake name. If spaz and water m are girls, we can have a mixed relay!


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:14 AM
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Is spaz a swimmer?

Nope - though I once did a triathlon with a 2k lake swim - it nearly killed me. I was thinking of swimming recently after I nearly dislocated my hip doingfalling on my ass from bike wheelies in clipless pedals. Yoga seems to be helping plenty, though.


Posted by: spaz | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:16 AM
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re: relay.

I cheat on relays. My favorite relay to cheat on is at my college team's intra-squad meet, where there's a freshman-alumni competition. The freshman are all hung-over and swimming outside their specialties. The alumni are out-of-shape (though it's generally alumni w/in about 5 years of graduating) but less hung-over and cheat shamelessly: diving early, pulling on lane lines during backstroke, fins (once--that was a little much). Every year the freshman work up a righteous indignance; every year it's cute and sad.


Posted by: phred | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:19 AM
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Those uniforms are sexy. It's like they're wearing opera gloves.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:21 AM
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and garters.


Posted by: phred | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:23 AM
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I cheat on relays.

Ha! My choice is vindicated. Phred is on my team!

I just hope Phred is fat like me so Ogged really feels the shame.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:24 AM
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Fat floats.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:48 AM
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The fat guy on my HS swim team was much faster than me. And the skinniest guy shared the slowest lane with me.


Posted by: mano negra | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 8:54 AM
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I was thinking today that it would be nice if I actually knew how to swim with halfway decent form. Suddenly, these swimming posts seem much more important.

I know, they're having a cumulative effect on me too. I'm glad you said something Di, I was just thinking how cool it would be to move like that.

A friend spent some time in the hospital from stretching the tube too far.

This is terrifying.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 9:35 AM
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Lemme know if there's an Unfogged swim meet. This pool is three blocks from my new place.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 9:51 AM
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If there's an Unfogged swim meet, you can expect approximately three dozen posts about it.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 9:54 AM
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I call Megan. Ogged, you can have Di Kotimy.

We can flip for Penny.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 9:56 AM
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42: it's a tradition the world over, apparently. always important to a) take advantage of your job to buy lots of cheap tequila for the undergrads the night before, and b) tell the people in your relay to stay to the side of the lane coming in so you don't hit them when you dive.

of course, you have to watch out for the alumni ringers who are still working out and turn out a 1:42 in the 200 freestyle.


Posted by: water moccasin | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 11:05 AM
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We play ultimate against the undergrads. We always win. They might be faster and in better shape, but we can lay a body on them and box out/push/cheat better than they can.

The downside is the danger of hurting one of those youngsters.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 11:14 AM
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It's too good a tradition not to be universal. Also, swirlies.

re: side-of-lane approach. Also effective is diving in front of (so as to swim underneath) the incoming swimmer.

Re: 1:42 200. hmm, I don't remember alumni swimming more than a 100.


Posted by: phred | Link to this comment | 11-12-07 11:52 AM
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