Re: Sometimes!

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Lurve,



Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:34 AM
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Ever,


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:36 AM
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I remain your most humble servant,


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:38 AM
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It kisses you,

[Guess that one works better in German.]


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:38 AM
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It itches me,


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:44 AM
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rituals collapse if you look to close, stop doing this.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:44 AM
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I remain your most humble servant s/b I remain your most obedient and humble servant

Email has done away with deference.


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:45 AM
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Mi pizzichi, mi stuzzichi,
Mi pungichi, mi mastichi,


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:47 AM
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rituals collapse if you look to close, stop doing this.

Rituals are for closers.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:47 AM
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There's a guy at my place of work uses extremely elaborate cod-Regency greetings and salutations on emails. He basically comes across like a tosser in email.*

* He's a nice guy.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:47 AM
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A simple "I remain," is both succinct and incontestable.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:48 AM
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'Cause I said so,


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:52 AM
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I haven't seen "Always,", but just yesterday I did get "Most Graciously Yours In Service," from another law firm. They were foreign though and I assumed it was a translation issue or something.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:52 AM
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Elaborate cod-Regency greetings and salutations (both?) in email are to be encouraged, not put down, Tannargramat.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:52 AM
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Who wants to know?,


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:52 AM
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Love me, love my dog,


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:55 AM
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damnit,


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:55 AM
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Best of luck in all your future endeavors,


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:56 AM
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Interrup—


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:56 AM
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Strangely, google attests no occurrences of "epistolas at dawn".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:57 AM
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My Dear Mr. Ogged,

I have to hand yours of the 20th instant. It grieves me to say that I do not understand your complaint—but I do not.

I remain, your most humble and obedient servant,
Horatio Hornblower


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:58 AM
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I just use "Sincerely."


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:58 AM
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I think I used to use "Always" for a while soon after college with friends. I meant it affectionately, like "Always yours".


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:59 AM
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15: heebie unmasked!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:59 AM
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The hell,


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 10:59 AM
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Hoping this email finds you in continued good health and high spirits despite the recent death of your wife, terribly sorry to hear about that by the way,


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:00 AM
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-SP


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:01 AM
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In deepest sympathy and commiseration, and, one must admit, a soupcon of schadenfreude,


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:03 AM
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I continue to fester,


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:04 AM
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Please, ogged. "Soupçon". Necessary for the effect.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:04 AM
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My favorite is still

May I always live to serve you and your crown,

MYB

although 29 is pretty good too.


Posted by: Mother's Younger Brother | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:05 AM
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30: And shouldn't a German noun really be capitalized? Plus both words should really be in italics to indicate that they are not really English words but are foreign words which a select few will know the meaning of.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:05 AM
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15: heebie unmasked!

I demand to know who filmed that! I thought it was a mirror! I would have practiced and learned the words a little better first.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:06 AM
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May the Gods guard your safety,


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:06 AM
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I think I used to use "Always" for a while soon after college with friends. I meant it affectionately, like "Always yours".

Huh. I used "as always" for a while after college, as well. But then I gave into the mediocratic destiny that is "cheers"...


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:07 AM
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I'm certain I've signed emails "forever your girl" or something like that in the past, but now I can't locate them.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:08 AM
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I used to alternate "Regards" and "Best wishes", but it seems like nowadays every email that isn't to my relatives ("Love,") can conceivably be ended with "Thanks,", so that's what I find myself doing.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:09 AM
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Ben w-lfs-n is so gay that see above.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:09 AM
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Sufficiently,


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:10 AM
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Void without warranty,


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:10 AM
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Ooh, I hate "cheers".

I recognize that "sincerely" is pleasantly neutral for most people, but I can never bring myself to use it.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:11 AM
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Consider, I beseech thee, what thou owest me, pay heed to what I demand; and my long letter with a brief ending I conclude. Farewell, my all,


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:12 AM
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Ergatively,


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:13 AM
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Ergodically,


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:14 AM
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Phatically,


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:15 AM
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Yeah, like IA in #2, "Ever" and, especially, "As ever" have always killed me. It could be "fuck off and die" or "je brule pour toi" -- whatever it is, it always shall be.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:17 AM
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I use "Sincerel," and "Thanks", or none at all, but I believe Becks is right that "Always" means "Always Yours".


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:17 AM
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47: "Sincerely"


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Vatically,


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:18 AM
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of "cheers", but I'm at a loss for anything that is succinct, friendly, yet universally applicable to good friends, casual acquaintances, and random co-workers.

South of the border, it's not uncommon to use "abraço" ("a hug") with even only passing acquaintances. I've been addressed that way by people significantly above my pay grade/social class, which is kind of cool ("Yes, mister Minister, a hug to you, too.".

But "The hell?" as a closing has a certain cheeky charm to it...


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:19 AM
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Fellatio,


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:19 AM
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Vacuously,


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:19 AM
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Superkoranic Fellatio,


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:20 AM
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Glad-handedly,


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:20 AM
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I yearn for you tragically. A. T. Tappman, Chaplain, U.S. Army


Posted by: Irving Washington | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:20 AM
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"Sincerely," is also good.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:21 AM
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Engorgedly,


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:21 AM
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Vacuously,

I love that word.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:21 AM
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Please, ogged. "Soupçon".

And here you were doing so well, placing the period outside the quotation marks. It should, of course, be "[S]oupçon".


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:22 AM
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In lengthening shadow,


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:22 AM
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How about "Insincerely"?


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:24 AM
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Back in high school, there was a period when I would close with "With love and squalor," in reference to that Salinger story. I should be embarrassed about this, but I figure emo high schoolers can get away with shit like that.

These days, I let my .sig do the dirty work, which is a clinical combination of dashes, carriage returns, and raw information.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:24 AM
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"As the shadow rapidly approaches me from behind,"


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:24 AM
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Josh is, of course, right.

My race is nearly run,


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:24 AM
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Ergodically,

Ergot-addledly,


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:25 AM
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How about "Insincerely"?

Not as good as "Irregardlessly," or "Without much regard,"


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:25 AM
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Just kidding,


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:26 AM
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As a formal closing, "Sincerely" can mean "sincerely" or "this is the word I'm supposed to put here before signing my name," and thus achieves ironic perfection. Too perfect for me to use.

Sincerely (really!/?),


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:27 AM
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I see a lot of stuff like "In my Lord's service," or similar things. I want to respond with "Serving the Lord better than thou,"


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:28 AM
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I actually always use "Kind regards." Because? My regards: they are kind.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:29 AM
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I believe "sincerely" is just the shortened form of "sincerely yours." I cannot say that in good faith.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:29 AM
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62.2 These days, I let my .sig do the dirty work, which is a clinical combination of dashes, carriage returns, and raw information

An ascii map of Australia with an arrow pointing to Perth.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:29 AM
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69: Or letters from priests that are signed "Yours in Christ" -- that might be my favorite.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:29 AM
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66. Contumeliously


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:31 AM
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Our IT guy sends weekly updates to all the faculty and staff, and signs them:

Blessedly,
Rod

which I just find hilarious.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:31 AM
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To William Strahan

Mr. Strahan, Philada. July 5. 1775

You are a Member of Parliament, and one of that Majority which has doomed my Country to Destruction. You have begun to burn our Towns, and murder our People. Look upon your Hands! They are stained with the Blood of your Relations! You and I were long Friends: You are now my Enemy, and I am,
Yours,
B. Franklin


Posted by: kid bitzer | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:33 AM
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Whatevs,


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:33 AM
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73:

Priests don't write me very often, oudemia, except to write "Please do not defile our property again."


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:34 AM
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The traditional Souther Baptist signature "In Him" obviously must be adopted as the official sign-off of the Mineshaft as expeditiously as possible.


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:35 AM
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You and I were long Friends: You are now my Enemy, and I am,
Yours,

I am immediately instructing my assistant to use this phrase in all my letters.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:36 AM
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What's wrong with "Cheers"? Perfectly serviceable. So also "Regards," "Best regards," "All the best," and "Arioch!"

Believe me,


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:36 AM
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In a professional context, I almost always use "Best." I'll use "Best Wishes" very occasionally to convey extra formality or warmth, depending.

With friends, I usually sign off with either my first name or the first initial of my first name--except in very special circumstances, in which case I'll use "Solidarity," "Coraggio," "xoxoxo," etc. I think "Ciao" works well informally, too, as long as it's used sparingly.


Posted by: NickFranklin | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:36 AM
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Andale, andale, mama, ia, ia, Cthulhu fhtaghn,


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:37 AM
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May thy foes, who, being naughty in His sight, snuff it.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:37 AM
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78: Jesuits love me. What can I say?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:37 AM
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Ergodically

Or perhaps Stationarilly?


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:38 AM
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I asked Jesus how much he loved me, and he opened his arms thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis wide...and died.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:38 AM
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82: The rising popularity of things Brazilian (waxes, pop music, movies) dictates that we now use "Tchau!"

Suck it,


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:38 AM
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Tumescently,


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:39 AM
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78: Jesuits love me. What can I say?

You aren't an Orangutan by any chance are you?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:40 AM
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Lately, I get letters with "Best of luck in your job search,"

Which makes me want to start signing mine, "Belletristically,"


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:40 AM
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Breathing heavily,


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:41 AM
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I did once sign off a complaint letter "with low expectations,"


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:41 AM
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Tchau

I laugh every time I see this. The first time I did, I had to be convinced my friends weren't putting me on.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:41 AM
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Ben's a bastard. I now have the Paula Abdul song "Forever Your Girl" in my head.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:41 AM
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Watch your back,


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:42 AM
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Dear Men of unfogged,

Please allow me to call your attention to the following:

"Faithfully" or "Faithfully yours" is a very good signature for a man in writing to a woman,

Believe me, my dear fellows, yours most sincerely,

IA


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:42 AM
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90: No. Much harder to catch.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:42 AM
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Avec les sentiments les plus profonds,


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:45 AM
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100,


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:45 AM
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Believe me, my dear fellows, yours most sincerely,

IA

"Not checking out your friend's backside,"


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:45 AM
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Avec les sentiments les plus profonds,

It is too bad that the English language does not permit the charming and graceful closing of all letters in the French manner, those little flowers of compliment that leave such a pleasant fragrance after reading. But ever since the Eighteenth Century the English-speaking have been busy pruning away all ornament of expression; even the last remaining graces, "kindest regards," "with kindest remembrances," are fast disappearing, leaving us nothing but an abrupt "Yours truly," or "Sincerely yours."


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:47 AM
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97 is awesome:

Turmoil and flurry may be characteristic of the manners of to-day; both are far from the ideal of beautiful manners which should be as assured, as smooth, as controlled as the running of a high-grade automobile.

I love, love, love old etiquette guides.

Whiggers always want credit for some shit they supposed to do,


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:49 AM
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Chained wearily to your heart,


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:49 AM
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I have always deeply regretted my lack of right to a lozenge.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:49 AM
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I've got blisters on my fingers!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:50 AM
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I've run into a couple of new-agers who like

Blessed be,



Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:50 AM
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103: I love them too and collect them. I especially love them when they tell me how to treat my staff.
Favorite line from Emily Post "Diamonds on men should be conspicuous by their absence."


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:51 AM
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For the greater glory of God and the continued exaltation of our fair kin,


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:51 AM
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107: They might as well be signing off "Hail Satan!" or "Hook 'em, horns!" Which, well, why not?

Yours platonically and non-pervily,


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:52 AM
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and of course this classic:
To the Right Honorable the Earl of Chesterfield
...

Having carried on my work thus far with so little obligation to any favourer of learning, I shall not be disappointed though I should conclude it, if less be possible, with less; for I have been long wakened from that dream of hope, in which I once boasted myself with so much exultation,
My Lord,
Your lordship's most humble,
most obedient servant,
SAM. JOHNSON.


Posted by: kid bitzer | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:52 AM
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102:

Everything sounds better in french. Pamplemousse is my favorite french word.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:52 AM
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Obligatorially,


Posted by: Ubu Imperator | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:53 AM
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Up yours,


Posted by: Ubu Imperator | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:55 AM
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With spirit weary and raiment fine,


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:56 AM
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When my dad joined the British civil service in 1948, the accepted house style was still, "I have the honour to remain, Sir/Madam, your humble and obediant servant". I don't think it changed till the mid-60s.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:56 AM
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I've actually had a journal review form that opened with `For the Glory of God' in 45pt. I almost didn't do the review.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:57 AM
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obedient


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:57 AM
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112: There's a very fancy, very tasty restaurant named "Pamplemousse" in Solana Beach. It means "grapefruit," right?


Posted by: NickFranklin | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:57 AM
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oui.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:58 AM
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Let's call the whole thing off,


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:58 AM
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I suggest starting with an exclamation mark, as Russians often do:

My dear Ogged!

Let me be the first to congratulate you...

and concluding, as the conspirators do in "King Ottokar's Sceptre",

I salute you!
(signed)
Musstler.

The combination of "I salute you!" and "(signed)" is the perfect bombast/bureaucracy mix for an aspiring totalitarian.



Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:58 AM
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Time is the fire in which we burn,


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:59 AM
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Personally though, I prefer "SWALK" or "BURMA", depending on the degree of acquaintance.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 11:59 AM
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With continued fascination,

John C. Inglis


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:02 PM
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On Big Love, there's a creepy polygamist leader named Hollis Green that uses letter-style salutations to end phone calls: "Your very truly, Hollis Green." It's kind of awesome.


Posted by: icathing | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:03 PM
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Ribbed for your pleasure,


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:04 PM
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Perhaps this is the point at which to ask: in what circumstances do you sign your full name? I always do, but from time to time friends suggest that this is over-egging it.

Avec mille baisers,


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:05 PM
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Priaptically,


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:07 PM
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Full name?

Regards,

Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David Windsor


Posted by: Edward VIII | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:07 PM
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With all due caution,


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:08 PM
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What? What? Ha ha! Ha ha!,
Will Smith


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:08 PM
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Avec mille baisers

Now that's some stamina.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:08 PM
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107: Blessed be = Druidically yours?



Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:12 PM
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133: Not really.

Et patati et patata,


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:14 PM
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Shame on us,


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:15 PM
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I believe that as a noun, "baiser" still means what it used to.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:16 PM
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Peccavi,


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:21 PM
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Childishly,


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:22 PM
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I'm sad to see that nobody's yet taken on the cause of "Stay Frosty,".


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:22 PM
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I told you to stay off my lawn,


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:24 PM
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Word is bond,


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:24 PM
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Now that's some stamina.

Anecdote from a friend who used to live in France: After a dinner party of French and Americans, everyone was doing their kissy-kissy good-byes. One of the Americans, wanting to make sure that nobody missed out on the formality, said to a departing French guy, "Baisez ma femme!" The response: "Ces Americains, si généreux."


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:24 PM
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I think I just peed a little,


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:24 PM
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137: I think "bise" is now the go-to noun. As for verbs, they say hug when they mean kiss, as in "Je t'embrasse."

à la tienne,


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:24 PM
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I actually haven't been signing my e-mails at all lately. Why bother?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:25 PM
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The French are not kidding about their ornate letter-closers. I have used these formulations in correspondance with a bank. Does "agéer" even mean anything anymore?

I use "sincerely" with all business letters, "best" with all student correspondance, and "bises" with all friends. "Love" is for my family; they'd make so much fun of me if I used anything else I'd hardly dare.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:25 PM
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Manifestly,


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:26 PM
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146: Because it's polite, you savage.

Semper Fi, do or die, gung ho, gung ho, gung ho,


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:26 PM
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I use "all best love" a lot. I like it.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:27 PM
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If lovin' you is wrong, I don't want to be right,


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:28 PM
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148 You are my density, George McFly.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:29 PM
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137: I think "bise" is now the go-to noun. As for verbs, they say hug when they mean kiss, as in "Je t'embrasse."

à la tienne,

Ok, thanks for this. Months ago I had a phone conversation with an elderly relative and I haven't been able to shake the feeling that I may have closed by telling her to go fuck herself.

Worriedly,


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:29 PM
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I told you them to stay off my lawn,


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:31 PM
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153:

Under "baiser," my high school french dictionary used the phrase "Elle baise bien" with the translation "she is a good fuck."

I am still surprised.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:31 PM
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Now in my cups, soon in yours,


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:33 PM
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Is not the title of the French film Baise-Moi commonly translated as Rape Me? Is that a mistranslation?

Pruriently,


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146: Right, Teo. Tho' I've been thinking of using this. which a (very big-law) relative adds to every email he sends no matter what the subject.

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IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS in Circular 230, we inform you that any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachment that does not explicitly state otherwise) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein.
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Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:35 PM
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What does JG write?

"Heterosexually yours,"?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:38 PM
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42 is exquisite.

The French really have excellent closings, as others have noted, though without the elaborate table. The spelling in French chatrooms is intriguing, NTM is insipid hippety-hop, and if only Arielle Dombasle would have the goodness to accept toute mon amitié.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:40 PM
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Toilet,


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:41 PM
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Now that's some stamina.

No shit.

Until the roots of your hair turn red,


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:41 PM
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157: I think it's more like an alternate (and printable) title than a translation of Baise-Moi, which is basically "fuck me."


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:42 PM
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Rudely,


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:44 PM
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With knives out, motherfucker,


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158. An actual disclaimer I received. The message might have been: "Thanks."

GENERAL NOTICE: All information conveyed in these messages is believed to be clear, true and correct. However, sender does not warrant the accuracy of this information and refers reader to published information by each carrier for precise representations of the coverage being offered. No carrier referenced in any of these message transmissions has either contributed to or warrants the accuracy of this message transmission. Reader agrees to hold sender and carriers harmless for any information stated in this message transmission.

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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:46 PM
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Nobody has yet mentioned to the obvious replacement for these antiquated forms so popular with today's delightful young people: the animated smiley.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:49 PM
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lulkthxbai,


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:53 PM
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Terribly vexed,


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166: Yeah. I found a few like that in my emails just now. When I ask the relative for the name of an expert on X, I get variations on those things stacked up from everyone in the chain.


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"Always" isn't so bad, it's just sentimental, and thus should be used limitedly.

Last year the Euros in my program would send emails to the entire cohort, signing off "xx," or "bises" or "gros bisous" or truncatedly, "biz." That got annoying, because I don't always want to kiss or be kissed by everyone I write. Likewise, I don't always want "un abrazo muy fuerte" from the jerk from Chile. There's something to be said about the arms-length "best" or "kind regards."

But the weirdest sign off I got was from a lawyer who reads my blog: "Acclamations!, _____".

Is it so bad to just sign off with a name or initials? Better that than to get into the tricky "how do we sign off" muddle or worse, try to water down signing off "Love," with teh cloyingly and purposefully misspelled and potentially less meaningful "Luv," which a few of my friends have done (I think to their everlasting shame, but whatever). I just started dating someone, and either we don't use signatures at all, or else we just sign off

-Belle

or

-The Dude

or even

-TD

Question to you all: How do you sign off in the first couple of months of dating?

Tu me manques,
Belle


Posted by: Belle Lettre | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 12:59 PM
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I've never dated anyone who used email as a main means of communication. But I recommend "BURMA" as noted by OnFatEng upthread.


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Not a main means of communication, but I'll send him an email while he's at work (I do not like interrupting people when they are working with a phone call, nor do I like being interrupted myself) which he can respond to when he's done with a meeting or whatnot. Usually it's something very dry like

"I'm making lamb chops and brownies for dinner. What time are you coming over again, and can you get milk on the way?

-Belle"

Which to me doesn't necessitate a sentimental sign off. While it is true that epistolary traditions have been disregarded in the age of email, it is also true that to keep special things special, sentimental words and closings are not overused and flagrantly tossed to the wind with each little missive.


Posted by: Belle Lettre | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:05 PM
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Taste the golden spray,


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:08 PM
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How do you sign off in the first couple of months of dating?

If anything, either "M" or "MF", but usually I omit any kind of signature.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:09 PM
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If anything, either "M" or "MF", depending on the current state of my hormone therapy.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:13 PM
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htsi is srsly the worst thread

could it be any more selfconscious


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:13 PM
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What? What? Ha ha! Ha ha!,
Will Smith

This is hilarious.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:20 PM
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"Could it be any more self-conscious?" would make a rather decent sign-off. Possibly, "could I be any more self-conscious?"...it'd have a sort of emo charm, and you could substitute "adorable" or "irritating" or "well-dressed" or "out-of-pocket" or "pustulent" depending on the circumstances.


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177.2 It's like, how much more black self-conscious could this be? and the answer is none. None more self-conscious.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:21 PM
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A very old-school prof of mine sends emails signed with "Yours as always, B-------." From him, I find it weirdly moving.

Semi-OT: I just spent five minutes trying to sign off appropriately on an email back to the college where I interviewed last week, because, in spite of everything, I got the job! Yay!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:25 PM
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Congrats, AWB.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:27 PM
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Yay AWB!


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:28 PM
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Woo AWB!


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:29 PM
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Jus de pamplemousse! Pamplemousse juice! There is so much writing on Canadian juice boxes and all Canadian products!

Wishing you giddy label-reading,


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:30 PM
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Hey, that's great, AWB!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:31 PM
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Congrats, AWB!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:31 PM
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Pamplemousse is a fabulous word. "Grapefruit" doesn't even make any damn sense. We already have a fruit, called "grape."


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:31 PM
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Congratulations, AWB!


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:32 PM
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Acclamations, AWB!


Posted by: Belle Lettre | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:33 PM
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Yay AWB! Slam those motherfuckers with the pervy Gothic novels!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:34 PM
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Congrats, AWB.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:34 PM
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Well done, AWB.

For such occasions, when I want a touch more formality, but also want to signal friendly intentions, I usually sign off with "cordially".


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:35 PM
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Congratulations,

AWB


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:36 PM
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Hooray for AWB! I'd always thought that your classes as described on your erstwhile blog sounded simply fabulous. Perhaps when I inherit the title, the chateau and the fortune from my sundered kin I can quit my job, go back to school and take one of your classes.

(Come to that, perhaps I could travel the nation taking classes from all the Unfoggaprofessoriat in turn. Maybe write a book about it...)


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:36 PM
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Félicitations, UOB!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:40 PM
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195: The nice thing is, I teach at very cheap schools and allow auditors.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:41 PM
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perhaps I could travel the nation taking classes from all the Unfoggaprofessoriat in turn. Maybe write a book about it

Frowner is Emily Yoffe?


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:41 PM
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181: Congrats, AWB!


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:42 PM
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Way to go, AWB!

Knecht -- "Cordially?" Really? I always read into "cordial" an underlying sense of politely veiled hostility, like "We both know I hate you, but I'm a big enough person to behave cordially."

I go for "regards" in the friendly but slightly more formal context.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:42 PM
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Will you still be in the Greater New York Area?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:43 PM
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I always read into "cordial" an underlying sense of politely veiled hostility

Hmmmm. I wonder if that reading is widespread. Could it be because that's what lawyers do with one another?

"Regards" or "Best regards" for me is totally stock-standard. I might upgrade to "Kind regards" or "Warm regards" if I really want to signal familiarity. "Warmly" does that nicely as well.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:48 PM
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Can we audit AWB's class online?

Congrats AWB.

Your companion in the quest to avoid hard labor,

Will


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:49 PM
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I like "With warm regards".


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:50 PM
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Frowner is Emily Yoffe Günter Wallraff.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:51 PM
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201: It's just one class, on top of my regular Brit Lit surveys. I just needed the money and the experience.

203: I'll set up a wiki syllabus and email it to interested parties.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 1:53 PM
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I just close with a long dash. Seriously:

--- John Emerson


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:01 PM
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Congratulations, AWB!
kind regards,


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:02 PM
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I'll set up a wiki syllabus and email it to interested parties.

How about a video replay of your lectures? And what if I want to ask questions? Should I email prior to the lecture so that my questions can be included in the discussion in real time?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:03 PM
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Yippee AWB,

Why wiki a syllabus? I did I miss something?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:14 PM
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Jeez, people are going to be begging for audiences soon.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:15 PM
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Why wiki a syllabus? I did I miss something?

Don't like that term paper deadline? No problem!


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:16 PM
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Good luck in Lubbock, AWB!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:16 PM
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I usually put my syllabus on a wiki so any supplementary reading (short texts, excerpts, etc.) can be linked from the appropriate day on the syllabus. Also, I have them post some of their assignments there. And it means they have no excuses like "I lost my syllabus" or "I was at my uncle's house this weekend and couldn't do the reading." It's more important for classes like my Brit Lit survey, in which a great deal of the readings are short excerpts.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:18 PM
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a great deal of the readings are short excerpts.

I am liking this class already. Can you make the font really large? I also prefer to have lots of white space on a page. Thanks in advance.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:20 PM
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Lubbock! Yipes.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:21 PM
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216: That's a Matt Weiner (pbuh) joke, I think. AWB is not off to Lubbock.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:22 PM
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215: Hee. Yeah, I have a thing about not overburdening my students with lots of reading when I can happily overburden them with really fucking difficult reading. It takes them a while to get used to the idea that they really have to set aside a few hours to read the ten pages they have to cover.


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By dint of its name and the objective facts of the place, I think Lubbock is the archetypal place where academics are forced to go against their will by the nature of the profession.

I could also have said "Starkville", "Tuscaloosa" or "Rexburg".


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:29 PM
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In my case, "Midtown."


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:29 PM
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202: I just found a "Very truly yours, " in a lawyer's equivalent of threatened total war. I would take "Sincerely" and "Cordially" with quite a few grains of salt too.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:30 PM
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No bullshit,


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:31 PM
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s/b

Crappin' you negative,


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:31 PM
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Yeah, I was there for a stretch before Weiner was.

That part of the country is not fit for human habitation. As fights over water heat up and electricity becomes more expensive, Lubbock will dry up and blow away. It is already hanging on solely in virtue of some cotton subsidies.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:32 PM
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220: Bryant Park?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:32 PM
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Congarats, AWB!

I went to a girl's school women's college, and the few men who frequented our group were extremely popular (read: incessantly hounded to be everyone's boyfriend). One guy in particular always signed his cards/notes/letters to friends with "agape" (how to do that e with accent?) instead of "love." To signify his platonic, godly, and otherwise disinterested love, I'm sure. It bugged, considering we all mistook it originally as "mouth wide open, astounded that I even sent you a card, Greg."

Lustily,


Posted by: wrenae | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:34 PM
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Erm, religious school four aves east of Herald Square?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:34 PM
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226: Hilarious. Christians are so funny with their unintentional cheeky double-entendres.


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That is a truly amusing place for you to be teaching what you're teaching, AWB.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:38 PM
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229: Isn't it? I never thought I'd get the job, frankly. I wore pants to the interview.


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to signify his platonic, godly, and otherwise disinterested love

Shouldn't that have been filios then?


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:40 PM
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227: Gotcha!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:41 PM
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If I infer right, you will soon have the same bosses as my dad. A lot of them wear slacks.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:42 PM
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233: That's a relief. I saw no pants during my visit to the girl's school and started to panic.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:45 PM
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Well done, that bear!

Ciao, OFE


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:45 PM
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When my dad joined the British civil service in 1948, the accepted house style was still, "I have the honour to remain, Sir/Madam, your humble and obediant servant". I don't think it changed till the mid-60s.

they didn't and many Hungarian refugees apparently remember in the 50s being refused leave to remain and sent back basically to re-education camps with precisely those words.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:52 PM
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My favorite letter sign-off ever:

Having carried on my work thus far with so little obligation to any favourer of Learning I shall not be disappointed though I should conclude it, if less be possible, with less, for I have been long wakened from that Dream of hope, in which I once boasted myself with so much exultation, My lord, Your Lordship's Most humble, most obedient servant, S.J.

Brilliant.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:55 PM
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My favorite pwnage ever: 237 by 111.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:56 PM
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171: I have a good early-dating sig.

Ardor,

Wrongshore

P.S. Congrats, AWB, you saucy nun.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 2:57 PM
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238: Oh fuck! This is what I get for not reading more thoroughly. In fact, I think I did read it thoroughly and then forgot you'd posted it. Poo.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:01 PM
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well, kid bitzer posted it.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:04 PM
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For some reason, I'm just barely alive today.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:07 PM
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Just as well - now more than ever, you need to save your strength for defending your plan to teach The Monk.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:08 PM
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Do you really teach The Monk, AWB? That is awesome.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:11 PM
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The truth about the Papists and their lewdnesses has been concealed for far too long. As a Baptist AWB knows this. She'll make Christ's wounds bleed again!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:18 PM
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Well, I put it on my sample syllabus for the course because it's a necessary extreme of the genre. But they asked me not to teach it, at least while the students don't yet know me, but maybe in a future semester. But now I've got this awesome syllabus that I'd love to teach at a secular school like my other job, where the students would go crazy for it.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:19 PM
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The truth about the Papists and their lewdnesses has been concealed for far too long.

Still channelling the Orange ancestors, eh?


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:21 PM
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The truth must be told, IA.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:23 PM
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Hmmm, it seems that now that said institution is a coed school, its sports teams are no longer called the Romish Whores.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:24 PM
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What religion is this mystery school, if it's not too identifying?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:28 PM
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While we're waiting for AWB's secular course, let's all rev up by listening to The Monk on babblebooks.


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249: Ah. Different religion, different school.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:29 PM
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250: I figured it out by googling. Can I say?


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:30 PM
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250: Jewish.
251: That is freaking me the fuck out.


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People trying to figure out where AWB is teaching should really work on their google detective skills, per 227.


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250: Well, then, I'll just give hints. You could tell AWB mazl tov for getting the job, heebie, if you weren't too preoccupied with counting your money and drinking the blood of Christian babies.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:33 PM
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I dunno. My method in 250 was really effective. And efficient.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:33 PM
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drinking the blood of Christian babies.

mmm, gravy.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:34 PM
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I'M ON VACATION!! By the way.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:35 PM
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The babblebooks thing, and the fact that I just rescued my Digi 001 for use with OS 10.4, is making me think I'll record The Monk for LibriVox. Anyone else want a chapter? It could be fun.


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259: What are you trying to say? Someone else is going to have to drink the blood of Christian babies for you? I thought that was a 24/7 obligation.


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260: That would be so so fun! A whole Unfogged-read book!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:39 PM
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Ethical question: Suppose one has a relative who dreams of doing Big Things in DC. Suppose one also has a contact who might be able to help said relative do Big Things in DC. Suppose further than said relative is a crazy Republican who does have the intellectual and rhetorical gifts to make the crazy Republican case compelling.

What does one do, besides re-read the Euthyphro?


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260, 262: Woo-hoo!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:42 PM
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263: Have you been asked for your help?


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:44 PM
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263: One helps, I think. It's not like there is any shortage of smart and ambitious movement conservatives. If it's not your young relative, it will be someone else.

(In my case, it is an ex-boyfriend and his terrifying dad.)


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263: Yup. Suppose further it is one's maid of honor.

I suppose it's largely sisterly pride that makes me certain that the last thing the forces of Right and True need is someone like her writing for The Other Side. But it's not just sisterly pride.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:48 PM
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263: I would recommend a two track strategy of (1)helping him attain the highest possible level of prominence and influence within the GOP; and (2) amply documenting all of his vices and perversions, up to and including luring him into some if he has none already.

Once he has achieved a position of sufficient prominence for his downfall to be embarassing in a meaningful way (ideally, enough to influence an election somewhere), you spring the trap.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:50 PM
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268: Yeah, that or maybe she can keep Cala out of the camps. And then Cala can keep us out.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:51 PM
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268: Lull her into a false confidence about talking smack on the internets so cozy and seductive that she blithely invites the people she talks smack about to read the smack.

264: OK. Anyone interested in the audiobook version of AWB's dirty gothic novel, sign up for an account at LibriVox and email me. I think I have to read a chapter on someone else's book before I can start a new project.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:56 PM
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I was thinking of something like an ethical offset. Like reducing your carbon footprint, but for Republicans.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:56 PM
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In fact, I don't think I even own The Monk right now. When I get a copy, I'm in.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 3:58 PM
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Of course, it's online.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:00 PM
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273: In many different forms.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:05 PM
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why there aren't more people drinking the blood of Christian babies.


Posted by: Scizor Cyster | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:18 PM
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Here's a sentence from the Wikipedia page on The Monk that will make you groan:

It was written before he turned 20, in the space of 10 weeks.

Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:19 PM
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AWB -- what's the textual dealio with The Monk? Will the various editions differ much from one another?

Cala: Maybe union organize in your spare time? Tithe to the ACLU?


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253: I figured it out by googling too, but was wrong. Apparently there is more than one religious school within four blocks of Herald Square in Midtown Manhattan.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:21 PM
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There's worse. Galois


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:22 PM
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279: yeah, but look where it got him.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:22 PM
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Dear AWB:

Congratulations, and best of luck with the new gig.

Respectfully submitted,
Nápi


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:24 PM
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277a: I'm ashamed to say it's not really my primary era or area of study, any of this, so I'm not really clued-in as to stuff like editions, except in certain cases. The Monk is definitely out of my usual path.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:24 PM
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279: Mademoiselle Stéphanie-Felice du Motel

A motel in the wrong neighborhood.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:31 PM
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Galois was one scary mathematician.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:34 PM
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Live fast, die young, look upon the deepest beauty of the permutation group? Could do worse.
Congrats, yr srvnt


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:35 PM
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The Monk is definitely out of my usual path.

Another AWB myth dispelled.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:36 PM
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I'm only one woman, Emerson. In another lifetime, I promise to be more hardcore.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:37 PM
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287: No! I'm just being paranoid because of my field; I assume all editions are radically different.


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288: And that's true of a lot of gothic novels, actually. Caleb Williams, for example, has at least two radically different endings, depending on the edition (which should, hopefully, include both).


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"Caleb" is a name that should only be used by honest American pioneers. I shudder to think of its use in gothic novels.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 4:56 PM
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I've heard that Jane Austen wrote hardcore under the pen name Branwell Austen.

Mmmmmm. Jane Austen hardcore.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 5:02 PM
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Ooh -- thanks for the tip. I haven't read that. Lately I've been pushing Wilkie Collins' Armadale on anyone who will listen.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 5:02 PM
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JE -- Then surely you have read this?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 5:04 PM
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Certainly it looks wonderful.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 5:11 PM
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263: Yup. Suppose further it is one's maid of honor.

In this case I think the marriage is annulled.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 6:33 PM
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thats big time, awb.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 7:24 PM
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way to unlame the thread.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 7:24 PM
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Auspiciously,



Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 7:38 PM
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Blessings etc,


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Amused,


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Woo hoo AWB.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 11-20-07 8:12 PM
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Please accept, sir/madam, the assurance of my most respectful consideration,

Alternately:

Please accept my assurance of the highest consideration with which I have the honor to be, sir/madam, your most humble and obedient servant,


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Just fucking take the assurance already,


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