Pre-party hangout suggestions:
* 14U - coffee shop, free wi-fi [site, map]
* Solly's - bar [site, map]
* Busboys and Poets - restaurant/cafe/bookstore/bar, free wi-fi. [site, map]

And seriously -- if we left you off, it was in no way personal. Evite has been sucking ass and was misbehaving and not saving a bunch of our changes. It's not even that we forgot you -- we might have put you on and it just didn't save.

have fun, you lot!

A little further from the Flophouse is the Flophouse-approved , where I sometimes work and where catherine hangs out daily. The owners are Mineshafters at heart. Yesterday I stopped in and found a deck of homemade cards for some sort of employer/employee devised game; the top card read "Sex With Kr/ston".

[Redacted - Becks]

The person mentioned in 5 would prefer if you didn't give people any ideas. Thanks!

Aaaand I killed the thread. Didn't mean to do that, folks!

Let's bring it back around to sex with me.

sorry 'smasher, it's just not in the cards.

Let's bring it back around to sex with me.

I'm going to be there!

Did you ask them about the game?

unfogged can make it's own variant, and you'll need a friday thread.

ITS own variant, soup you bastard.

i've only started doing that recently --- must be for you, ben.

i've only started doing that recently

Something you've contracted?

15: Heh.

Let's bring it back around to sex with me.

I assume you're not telling me your address because you want me to supply the condoms?

I'd be open to having a little pre-party with cocktails at my place if people are interested. Emerson will be staying with me so he'd probably be there as well. Only problem is I'm on Capitol Hill, so it would be necessary to taxi or metro over to the Flop afterwards.

OK, I just linked my email if anyone wants to email me privately about it.

In other news: this sucks.

http://thehill.com/images/last_six/20071213.pdf

So sports bras are not allowed as outer wear at this party?

I'm sure an exception can be made for you, will, if you plead your case well.

11: The explanation I got is that everyone is dealt a hand of cards and then must rank them in order of preference. That's basically it, though there might be some trading involved; alcohol takes care of the end game.

20: Only catherine is not allowed to wear them around the house.

15: must be. this place is habit forming, after all.

What game?

24, meet 4.

really though, unfogged deserves a board game, not just cards.

Just don't let the party get out of hand, okay guys?

I hate you all.

Black on gray? Really?

Are you on the Farm, Gonerill? If so, we could have a little Yay Area meetup and commiserate about not being able to go to UDC.

Aw, man. Lenny Dykstra?

31: Asterisks all around! Suck it, Clemens!

Are you on the Farm, Gonerill?

No, not till next year.

Black on gray?

Is this the dress code?

Is this the dress code?

No, the color scheme of the evite.

The dress code is orange on mauve with lime green accents.

29: that was the color scheme i threw together this morning. sorry if it...strains your eyesight? or whatever.

37: It looks great.

So: are people going to this party under their pseudonyms, or their IRL names, or what?

I find it pretty unreadable, but it might just be my monitor (which I've noticed before is extremely dark).

So: are people going to this party under their pseudonyms, or their IRL names, or what?

That will vary by person, each after his or her own preference. I, for instance, would rather that people addressed me by the pseud I use on this site.

So: are people going to this party under their pseudonyms

IA: Hi, I'm Invisible.
CN: Nice to see you. I'm Cryptic.

I just looked it up and I'll be flying into Reagan around 6pm, so I will probably not be early enough for pre-party.

Damn. After meeting AWB the other day I am sad to miss out on this. But just throw in some extra crazy on my behalf & I'll soldier on through the night. Alone.

Caldwellian, after a few days of consideration, I am now not just pleased, but obsessed with my scarf. You are awesome.

Oh, the hot shame of redaction. I'm just too clever for words.
I'll be in town around 3-4pm, so I'm up for pre-party plans. Perhaps eating prior to large amounts of alcohol is a good idea.

Oh, the hot shame of redaction.

New rollover text. I'm looking at you, ogged of the short-lived posts.

45: I'd be interested in eating.

45, 47: I'm not sure when I'll be getting in to town -- scheduling's flexible -- but a pre-party meal sounds good.

41: lulz

I wouldn't go to one of these parties. I've used this place as more of a place to say things I wouldn't say to anyone I know in real life, than a place to meet my new best friends.

I, for instance, would rather that people addressed me by the pseud I use on this site.

You mean "read"?

AWB, that makes me happy beyond description. Math + knitting = the win!

I've used this place as more of a place to say things I wouldn't say to anyone I know in real life, than a place to meet my new best friends.

This explains a lot.

Becks or anyone, could you send me another evite to this aliportico at gmail addy? Thanks.

SP, IA - food sounds good! I'm arriving about noon, dunno what time I can dump stuff at the hotel, but will be around killing time/looking for Mineshafters with whom to kill time all afternoon I guess.

I'll be in town around 3-4pm, so I'm up for pre-party plans.

Ditto.

And I'm really pleased will's going to make it.

dunno what time I can dump stuff at the hotel

Check-in's at 3, but they'll probably let you stow your luggage.

I'm getting in Friday morning, flying out Sunday noonish. I'm up for many things, including the beer keller outing mentioned elsewhere, food trips of most sorts, and especially a trip to Ben's Chili Bowl. Art trips, museum excursions, food, drinking. Yes.

I turned down a gig to attend (which was really fun to explain to the bandmates). You people better not disappoint.

38: I used to comment here as [realfirstname] for like 2 years before switching to m. leblanc. When I showed up at udcon1, I introduced myself as [realfirstname] and several people didn't connect that persona with my new pseud, which I had also been commenting as for quite a while. It was all very confusing.

59: Wait, who are you again?

Hey, asilon! Email me about skating if you're up for it.

Also, I want to gay marry Ned for 50.

Ahem.

49: I really don't understand this distinction. But then again, it would really bug me to fell like I was self-censoring with my friends.

When's the next NYC event?

In the thread linked in 63, Standpipe (PBUH) suggests:

We should pick a day, and all of us start commenting with new handles. Maybe. I think the idea rates half a frisson at least.

Heh.

asilon - I added your new email addy.

65: There's a family-friendly ice-skate coming up, and after that, I don't think we have any official plans. Want to do something in January, maybe?

I think I'm staying at the Doubletree on Rhode Island Ave- haven't booked yet but they have rooms for $89. I don't think I'm bringing a computer, though, so we'll have to set up some way of communicating besides threads. Not everyone is in constant blog contact like Sifu.

63: I was kidding. There are many folks with new pseudonyms I'm confused about (I'm looking at you PGD), but I've got you figured out.

Also, what the hell happened to SB? Did I miss an announcement?

Stomach cancer.

63: At a math conference, I was chatting with someone who had done his undergrad at the same place as you, and the thought ran through my head, "Hey! Do you know my friend..." but I bit my tongue when I got to the part where I'd have to supply a name. ("...okay so I don't know her name, but I know she just finished law school and blogs on this other person's site, and, and, and,...)

SB has commented recently, but he's cut way back.

He or she has cut way back.

Those chemo treatments can really mess up your commenting time.

73: That's awesome. I had someone comment on a paper written by a commenter here; I made some offhand remark and they said `oh, you know them?'. It was kind of like that.

OT but someone has found a way to improve the Wire

He or she

I continue to maintain that anyone who interjects "Pujols!!!" in a comment thread cannot possibly be a woman. No, not even Albert's wife.

76: Taken alone, the lying about in bed instead of working is probably upside for this sort of thing --- continually feeling like ass probably takes the appeal right out of it.

73: So, what was his name? You might not have been able to ask him if he remembered me, but I could ask you if I remembered him...

Do I remember this guy?

By the way, for any locals, there was someone who emailed and said he was still trying to find a place to crash. Not sure if he's looking for a couch or splitting a hotel room. I just gave him a heads up to this thread so hopefully he'll be by shortly.

By the way, anyone have any recommendations for the best place to cross the border (going from Toronto to NYC, so crossing in Niagara Falls/Buffalo) on Saturday? Apparently the weekends have been really busy lately with all those pesky Canadians going Christmas shopping and there are reports of 4 hour waits to get into the US a couple of weeks ago.

Jack Cust -- I always knew it.

SP, blume, mrh, BG -- how many of you-all are arriving early? Boston-area-meetup-in-DC, anyone?

Boston-area-meetup-in-DC, anyone?

Oh how cliquish.

No backups at the Manitoba/Minnesota border.

Also, anyone looking to connect off-blog can shoot me an e-mail at chopper/gb at gmail.

OH HOW COULD YOU DISAPPOINT ME GREGG ZAUN?!

actually I have not read any part of the report yet.

All this time I thought the name linked in 63 had been changed to...something other than what it was changed to.

81: I couldn't remember his name, but I just looked him up. Bri/an L/oft, and it appears he got his masters at your undergrad in 1998. So there may not have been any overlap, if you graduated in the early 200Xs.

Rah and I are arriving the afternoon or early evening of Friday 28 December, staying at the Palomar, so if anyone is around and wants to hang out, etc. We're going to do some sight-seeing and such. I will have a laptop, etc., and can be reached at robustmcmanlypants at nc dot rr dot com.

At a math conference, I was chatting with someone who had done his undergrad at the same place as you, and the thought ran through my head, "Hey! Do you know my friend..." but I bit my tongue when I got to the part where I'd have to supply a name.

Oh god, I forgot the best part! What almost came out of my mouth was: "Do you know my friend, Matt Leblanc?"

84: It's going to be a mess any time on a weekend at any of those major crossings near Buffalo. Peace Bridge, iirc, is the quickest way to I-80 (which gets you to NYC), but doublecheck that.

Peace Bridge is usually pretty good, even on a weekend or during the rush hour, ime.

What's it gonna take to get you to UnfoggeDCon, Cala?

It wasn't bad Memorial Day weekend, unless you were trying to activate a visa. Then GAR GOD GAAAGH DIE.

I continue to maintain that anyone who interjects "Pujols!!!" in a comment thread cannot possibly be a woman. No, not even Albert's wife.

Nice try at a save, but sexist.

95: My mom not wanting to see her son-in-law whom she hasn't seen since the wedding and that's just not right don't you know?

98 - Bring your mom! She can help plan the party. I've heard she likes that kind of thing.

But, to follow up on 96, there is an outlet mall within reasonable driving distance of the border & a strong Canadian dollar. You could call the POE and ask what time they'd recommend.

I also have to confess I haven't broached it with shivbunny since I'm not sure he's comfortable with meeting those pretend internet friends that all seem to be sleeping with each other (so he thinks. and because the timing is bad with the holiday, there's no reason to.) This would have been easier were I going to the APA, for then I just would have been going to a party with philosophers (& some other people.)

90: Oh yeah, I wouldn't know who that was, since I didn't even arrive there until 2000.

This is the internet, Cala. The philosophers actually are all sleeping with each other, by contrast.

Shivbunny thinks we're all sleeping together? On this, the blog where no one ever gets laid?

His position is hardly rational.

104: I was wondering what sort of selective reading could possibly lead to that mistake, too.

Where none of the bloggers get laid. commenters quite another story.

he says, hopefully.

Wait, you all aren't sleeping with everyone, too? No wonder people have been calling me a slut.

LeBlanc and Ned, did you guys have something you wanted to tell us?

So I was planning on coming down to DC for UnfoggeDCon, but now there's a bit of a wrinkle. I've started kind of seeing this young lass in DC, and I'd like to see her, but I'm not sure we're at that point in our relationship where I'm ready to say: "why don't you come to this party thrown by all my weird internet friends?" Is there a way I can see her and y'all, and still not weird the hell out of her?

111: is her name "catherine"?

It's a test of her character. Tell her it's a party but not who's throwing it, and see what happens.

Many of us are less weird in person, if that helps.

the `many' in 114 is a wonderful loophole.

not that i'm going, albert, so don't let that discourage you.

"Many of us" s/b "The Unfoggers I've met"

I'm not particularly concerned about her meeting y'all - I'm more fishing for a great euphemism to use to define our collective relationship. "A bunch of internet nerds" does not woo the lasses, last I checked.

111: TELL HER THERE WILL BE HOMEMADE BACON

OR WHTAEVER IT IS SHE EATS

fwiw, the few I've met are all very nice and charming. I'm certain this generally holds pretty well.

I'm much more interesting on the internet.

111: you're a commenter, so chances are you're as weird as the norm here. In fact, your phrasing ("young lass?") makes me think it's likely. So you'll need to break her in to weirdness sooner or later, may as well start now.

For the pre-party cocktail party idea: had a couple of responses, if I get to five I'll go ahead, plan things, and email everybody out info. There's some DC-type sightseeing right around my house if anyone's interested too.

Albert: tell her you could explain this, but then you'd have to kill her.

119: No bacon from me this year. I do have some pancetta in the freezer, but it's dry-aged and thus not really finger food so much as an ingredient.

I'm much more interesting on the internet.

I refuse to believe this of almost everyone.

118: A bunch of hypereducated people with too much free time on their hands?

Also re 111: I think inviting people to big parties early in a relationship is a romantic plus. The message "I'm lively and popular!" usually swamps any weirdness in the crowd. Unless it's LARP or a furry convention or something (no offense to anyone...).

118: Just tell the truth. "So, there's this blog I comment on, and some of the people who post there are having a party, and there should be lots of drinking and fun times. Wanna come?"

If she doesn't know what a "blog" is, then I guess you've got bigger problems on your hands.

126: A large number of us don't have a lot of free time on our hands. We're just slacking off anyway.

But I know that now that you are a SAHM your life is all soap operas and Valium. [ducks and runs away]

By the way, anyone have any recommendations for the best place to cross the border

You might be better off to avoid Niagara Falls and Buffalo, and cross at Thousand Islands -- slightly longer drive (401 east from Toronto), but this border crossing is nowhere near as busy.

118: Albert Gallatin, you may very well know me IRL. Just guessing based on the handle. Or not.

o: not sure we've met, but I have met some of the Unfoggetariat.

I've already done the "I'm a party animal" thing with a holiday party thrown by my grad school crowd, so I'm not afraid of doing that again. I guess I'm just trying to have my cake and eat it, too.

I'm no Cala's mom, so as for art seeing: Interested folks should e-mail me with their schedules. It won't work for people who are arriving afternoon of party and leaving the next morning. But before and after, we could do.

Albert: Why not stick with simplicity. `some friends are going to be at this party, want to come?'

I am going to have to figure out a pseudo for this party.

will: go as calasmom

I don't really understand trying to stick to pseuds, just sounds all wrong to me somehow.

soup biscuit: I'm over thinking this, to be sure, but just looking for the right way to finesse it...

BG and I, if all goes according to plan, will be arriving late morning or early afternoon on the 29th. I'd love to meet up with some of you all for funtimes and/or dinner or something. Especially my Boston-area Unfogged homies.

matt at unlikelywords (dot com) for social planning; email for my phone number.

(Oh, and I think an NYC stop-over on the 28th is in the works, so if any of you New Yorkers think you can handle two consecutive nights of Unfogged people, let me know.)

Boston elitists! Why don't you all go win a sport.

I'm missing both meetups. Does anyone want to get together in NY right after christmas?

137- Ah, you want finesse? 'You mind if we check out this party. Should be pretty cool, but if it's not we can go do something else.'

Of course, any pre-party meetup that formed around the Boston Nucleus would also be welcoming to non-Bostonians.

Just saying.

(And if the Mitchell Report has taught us anything, it's that Boston Wins Sports because we know how to accurately evaluate past- and current-users of performance enhancing drugs -- we properly discount their current performance by their future risk of injury, and we have the intra-organization emails to prove it.)

Mitch slapped. Great hed.

Of course, any pre-party meetup that formed around the Boston Nucleus would also be welcoming to non-Bostonians.

Mighty nice of the Boston nukes.

The offer in 133 is awfully nice. I have visions of ditching my obligations and going on an extended art crawl. But then I'd never be able to return home again. And finding a new family that will tolerate my foibles might be hard. Still, tempting.

soap operas and Valium

Unfogged and Effexor.

I'll add myself to the evite. My mother is marrying my oldest childhood friend on NY's E, and I don't think I can arrange more travel, but I want to pretend it's possible.

(performing the ceremony, rather.)

147: Why did you ruin that for me with 148? I was impressed.

I have been sitting in Laguardia for 3 hours. I need some happy.

I need some happy.

Here ya go, oudemia.

Gawd, I hate the Post. Fucking classy paper, huh?

I second the Thousand Islands recommendation. A bit out of the way, but very unlikely to be crowded.

149- It just took me 100 minutes to drive 3 miles home from work which is not happy, but common misery, a close substitute.

150: Nice. Thanks. Gah.

BOARDING. OMG!!!!

Yay boarding.

Am I the only one who keeps reading this post title as "UnfoggeDCon 2.0: You're Evicted"?

BY ALL THE GODS ABOVE I AM GOING TO BURN THIS FUCKING DISSERTATION.

thank you.

What's your dissertation about, Cala?

Apparently fuck all.

Am I the only one who keeps reading this post title as "UnfoggeDCon 2.0: You're Evicted"?

No.

Am I the only one who keeps reading this post title as "UnfoggeDCon 2.0: You're Evicted"?

No.

Just made my travel plans. Arriving Friday, leaving Sunday. I'm up for a smallish pre- or post-gathering, especially of the (non-art) museum, coffee shop, or Interesting Washington Destination type. E-mail temporarily enabled below.

Katherine, there's a chance I may be in NY earlier in the week -- e-mail me if you want to set something up.

42 -- AWB, only tourists and Republicans call it that. In polite company, you'd say you're flying in to National.

162: Thank you. This sounds like a similar shibboleth to NYC's "Avenue of the Americas," which exists only to make travelers sound stupid and lost.

Am I the only one who keeps reading this post title as "UnfoggeDCon 2.0: You're Evicted"?

No. I keep wondering where they're going to hold the party now that they're locked out of the original venue.

I think the idea is that the party will *get* them evicted.

We can only hope it'll be that good.

NYC's "Avenue of the Americas," which exists only to make travelers sound stupid and lost.

One could also refer to NYC's "Sixth Avenue", which exists only to make locals feel superior to tourists.

New Yorkers don't need anything to help them feel superior to tourists.

68: AWB - I'd be up for something in Jan. Never met you folks, you know, in person. I'm jal at jal dot org.

New Yorkers don't need anything to help them feel superior to tourists.

Well, having tourists to mock, curse at and misdirect helps.

New Yorkers don't need a continuing supply of tourists anything to help them feel superior to tourists.

169: Jal?

Bah. Fishbane-pwned. Darn HTML.

170: True enough.

171: Nah, New Yorkers feel superior to everyone in every way.

Nope. Not Jal, either.

Fishbane, I'll ask Becks to put a post up when we're closer to January so we can see how the NYers feel about a meetup then. I'll be out of town from the 10-15th, but around otherwise!

AWB - sounds good. I'm around straight through, with the caveat that a relative is in the hospital and if he takes a turn for the worse, I may have to jet on short notice.

I still hate you all.

(performing the ceremony, rather.)

If anyone wants to get married in conjunction with DC Unfogged, I (or perhaps Carp or other local lawyers) can get certified to marry you.

I've always wanted to be involved in both the marriage and the divorce.

FYI:

If I am going to be calasmom, can I wear a sportsbra?

If I am going to be calasmom, can I wear a sportsbra?

Answered in 22.2.

Where is the love? I RSVP'd, I got a personal reply from Armsmasher and an offer of hospitality from MattF, but I didnot receive an evite!

Arthegall, mrh and I are planning a two-legged trip. We'll be leaving from New York on the morning of, so we may get there early. Also, I sent you an e-mail.

You're listed on the evite, BG, so it must be a technical glitch with evite itself. Not that I have any idea what to do about that.

There were a lot of technical glitches setting up the evite. I just re-sent the evite to you, BG. If you don't get it, let me know or check your Spam folder.

Why is catherine not permitted to wear sportsbras around the house?

Actually, I can see from the author view of the evite that BG has received and read the evite so she must be OK now.

YES, I CAN SEE YOU ALL. Muahahaha.

And, Ogged, stop being a little bitch.

I haven't received the evition notice to Bring It Un: Un It to Won It, but I think my outstanding social coordinator Sir Kraab RSVP'd for both of us. I'll check with her when she gets home.

Anyways, we're arriving on Thursday December 27th and leaving January 1st and are up for any and all pre and post party hijinx. We are definitely interested in any Artsmasher Tours.

Why is catherine not permitted to wear sportsbras around the house?

Drives the menfolk out of their heads.

I second the Thousand Islands recommendation. A bit out of the way, but very unlikely to be crowded.

Granted, my point of reference is Ottawa, which is about 5 hours east of Toronto, but...it's really not out of the way to go the Thousand Islands route from Toronto. It just involves a different route through NY state and Pennsylvania. I have driven this many times, to get from NYC to Lanark Co. (which is, again, closer to Ottawa than to Toronto, but this route makes sense, esp. with the cross-border shopping madness). Anyway, Asilon, if you want directions, let me know.

All of you Boston folk!--So I can't make it to UnfoggeDCon because I'll be in Boston that week for other things. Since you all seem to have a pretty together (some might say cliquish, even?) network, I will shamelessly beg for either recommendations for fun things to do or for you to email me so we can go drink beers (obviously not during UnfoggeDCon). I'm new to this coast, so I figure a little shameless begging is part of the initiation ritual, or something.

189: I've never been to Toronto, so I don't really have a sense of how far along the coast of the lake it is. I'm quite willing to believe Thousand Islands isn't any more roundabout a way to go than Buffalo, in which case it's very much the preferable route.

191: You've never been to Toronto but you know about the Thousand Islands border crossing? Teo, where are you from, anyway?

My problem with the Thousand Islands border crossing is that it's just too mayonaissey.

I'm in town (well, in the farms-outside-the-exurbs, but within driving distance) the whole week beforehand, so I'm up for any pre-event festivity, Bostonian-centric or otherwise. Wasn't there an idea about some beer bars in the city?

193: Dear God. How crazy is this? I actually had a dream about the mayo v. mustard conversation. It was all in text, and it all took place in a pop-up comment box, and Teo was in it (or Teo's words were in it), but I can't remember who else.

Nathan, I think there should be beers had in the city, indeed. Emailing you now--

Oh god, I'm retarded. Ignore me.

197: Ignoring you would be wrong, caldwellian. We're going to mainstream you instead.

Teo, where are you from, anyway?

New Mexico.

I'm shattered, crushed, even, that I can't make it. I hate you all. I'm moving to Sweden.

UnfoggeDCon needs less carrot and more stick. How about public shaming for any regulars who don't show?

I'm retarded

Dispreferred.

How can we publicly shame the people who don't show, Walt?

mrh and I are planning a two-legged trip

You guys are walking from Boston? In December?

Apo, as usual you have completely misunderstood.

Just don't stand near them with anything fragile in your hands, that's my advice.

Apo, as usual you have completely misunderstood.

They don't live in Boston?

Just don't take either of the pills they offer you, that's my advice.

Hmm, it looks on the map that it's quite a long way out of the way - and seems annoyingly counterintuitive to start off driving north? We're about 35 miles out to the west of Toronto, the other side of Mississauga (almost at the other end of the lake, Teo).

If it really is a four-hour wait at Buffalo it would still probably be quicker.

And looking at a map, I see that Toronto is indeed a lot closer to Buffalo than to Thousand Islands.

(a) if any Boston people want to go to DEEP ELLUM for beer (they bring the delicious, let me tell you) or cocktails (ditto) or the HUNTER'S PLATE (tritto) I could be talked into it, I'd wager. Nwilliams has my digits.

(b) who, upon arriving in DC (or more aptly BWI), is going to HIT CRABS WITH HAMMERS? Keep me posted.

Now that everyone's planned everything, let me recommend Cafe Saint-Ex near (4 blocks away) the Flophouse, and as multi-facited place as you'll find in our nation's capital.

And I don't see why IA thought it was so weird that I would know about Thousand Islands if I'd never been to Toronto. It doesn't look like Thousand Islands is on the way to Toronto from anywhere. Except maybe Watertown.

206: they're only walking from New York.

211: Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll be out of season for crabs. Just drink Natty Boh.

215: crabs have a season? Fuck.

I has a season.

198: mainlining would be better, but then there'd be the jailtime.

202: I know--it was the shame. It's an avalanche.

Cafe Saint-Ex, mentioned by mike d, is indeed fantastic. One of my favorite brunches in the neighborhood and their anything-off-the-menu pre-theater prix fixe always surprises me for the price/quality ratio.

There are also a bunch of great Ethiopian places nearby if people are gathering for dinner. A lot of people like Etete but I prefer Dukem, which is also usually easier to get a table at, too.

Or if you want cheap and authentic Southern food, you can go to Florida Avenue Grill. (Or Ben's Chili Bowl, but I recommend saving that for about 2 AM.)

I want craaaaabs!

Sifu, I'm sure if you play your cards right, Apostropher can give you crabs.

Oh I do hope so.

Crab season ends on Saturday. Hurry up if you want some.

Dammit, that sucks.

Crabs are dispreferred, Sifu.

Hey Sifu, I was just at a bar/restaurant where they were advertising on a blackboard as one of the Specials!!! of the bar portion of the enterprise bourbon milk punches.

I didn't get one, though I did get undercharged for a Last Word, so, net win.

And now I'm somewhat intoxicated and intoxicating myself further on what is probably the crappiest Marillenbrand in the state.

228: hmmm I really think you should try one sometime. The Las Word sounds awfully sweet.

Tonight at DEEP ELLUM! I drank another 30s-style manhattan (which, on balance, may well have Grenadine: it only mentions the exceptional ingredients on the menu, in this case rye and peychaud's, not all the ingredients). I also drank a Fernet-Branca, which name aside consisted of Fernet and Plymouth Gin, and which was delicious. Next time I think I will try the (non-New Orleans) Sazerac, made with just Rye and Peychaud's, or possibly one of the cocktails with egg in it. Or I might switch back to beer, since their tap selection is nothing short of spectacular.

I once drank lots of cocktails with egg whites in them. They were extraordinarily delicious, and I was sick as a dog the next day.

LW not actually that sweet, b/c despite the fact that Chartreuse has that liqueury sweetness, its herbaciousness, plus the gin, plus the sourness of the lime juice, balances pretty well with the sweetness of the maraschino. Also, even though maraschino is pretty sweet, it mostly tastes like dusty cherry stems—the sweetness isn't really in the forefront.

This one also had noticeably less maraschino than the last one I had, at pegu in nyc. Which was also quite good.

231: really? I've only had a few egg whitey cocktails, but if the eggs are even moderately fresh, there shouldn't be any problems. Plus it gives things a great texture.

Fernet Branca and gin sounds really weird, but Fernet Branca and coke is pretty good.

What cocktails have egg in them? Egg nog, I guess, and gin fizz. I will go google this now.

Pink Lady, Pisco Sour, Silver Gin Fizz (and anything "silver") off the top of my head. Golden Gin Fizz has a whole egg.

My family egg nog recipe contains egg yolks as well as egg whites, and in addition to being just, y'know, awesome, causes nary a hangover as long as you start drinking nice and early.

233: I think Plymouth Gin is very different than regular gin? Anyhow, the cocktail was extremely resiny and almost backwoods tasting, as if one had fermented a random assortment of wild forest berries and pinecones, but I found it extremely enjoyable.

235: they have the first two of those, along with a gin fizz (not obviously sour), something or other with brandy and egg white, and I think at least one or two other egg-containing cocktails at this joint.

Also Clover Club (on which Pink Lady is, apparently, an improving variation) and the intriguingly-named Gloom Lifter. I once made a Corpse Reviver w/ an egg white and it was pretty good. The egg white contributes basically no flavor at all, so in principle you could probably add it to whatever.

That egg whites thing did happen while I was still drinking tea in the mornings, which sometimes made me vomit. I couldn't decide the next day if I was tea-sick or egg-sick or just plain liquor-sick. Some things I just don't handle well.

I think Plymouth Gin is very different than regular gin?

Oh, yes, this is true. Skipped over the "Plymouth".

Also, different from. Similar to, different from. Very logical.

Plymouth Gin is very similar from regular gin sounds wrong, Ben.

It sounds wrong now, but you get used to it.

I think Plymouth Gin is very different than regular gin?

Guess this depends on what you mean by "very".

DEEP ELLUM sounds wonderful. I must investigate next time I am in those parts. But why put a nice bar in a place you can only reach by driving?

If you want a different gin experience you need to try this stuff. Pure nectar. Best drunk straight up or with a little water.

244: "somewhat"

But why put a nice bar in a place you can only reach by driving?

Crossed my mind, too, as I was lamenting the fact that this bar isn't located, say, a few blocks from my house. But the crowd would be rather different if you could subway it there.

DEEP ELLUMS doesn't sound totally inaccesible via public transport. I could walk tehre from my house, which means that anyone could walk from where the 66 drops one off on Harvard Ave. Sure you have to walk .2 miles, but it's not liek it's out in Saugus.

A .2 mile walk is nothing.

Is it part of the style guide that one can only write DEEP ELLUM's name in all majuscules?

If you go down to DEEP ELLUM, put your $ in your shoes.

Naww, some asshole just started doing it for emphasis.

Inaccessable? It's half a mile from packard's corner or harvard ave on the B line.