Re: Saturday bleg and misc

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How about the Wikipedia page for Bismillah FFS?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:01 PM
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Christmas decoration chez Labs?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:04 PM
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"He said, 'Happy Hanukkah, that's when the Jews killed Jesus,' " said Adler.

Just ridiculous. Whatever happened to "know thy enemy"?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:07 PM
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Or, for that matter, your own ostensible faith?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:07 PM
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Just like the pedantic Jews to quibble over inconsequential details in order to distract us from the main issue.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:13 PM
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Should be more or less linear . . . .

The gayatollah wants one in the shape of a penis, obvs.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:14 PM
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Or, for that matter, your own ostensible faith?

Evangelicals, I'll bet. Better-educated Christians know that the Jews killed Jesus on Good Friday.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:16 PM
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Sigh.

Why is it always the non-Jews telling the Jews about Judaism?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:16 PM
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Excellent point, M/tch. Jews of Unfogged, when, exactly, did you kill Jesus?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:19 PM
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So what's the chance that we can assimilate Eid al-Adha into KwanzChristmaHanukkah?

The Wikipedia page indicates that it generally falls in the KwanzChristmaHannukka season (beginning with the ritual shopping day Black Friday and ending with the Ritual Consumption Day Dec. 25.)

We need two things to assimilate your holiday:

(1) Songs to sing at children's holiday pageants, along with the Dreidl song, a million christmas carols, and some Kwanzaa thing.

(2) An icon we can put on the court house lawn, next to the menorah, the baby Jesus, and some Kwanzaa thing.

I understand that (2) can be a problem, because you guys don't do icons. But perhaps we can put calligraphy or elaborate geometric patterns on the court house lawn? Its up to you.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:23 PM
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9: That's rank slander. The Jews didn't kill Jesus. They contracted it out to the Romans, you bigot.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:24 PM
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Every day I kill Jesus again. It's my little ritual in the morning. I just never got into coffee.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:30 PM
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Not so fast Rob-- it rotates throughout the year, since the calendars are of different lengths.

But you can get medallions with arabic script Allah or some surahs or something. DJ Khaled has one on his album cover. Put one of those bad boys up in the town square and watch the fun start.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:30 PM
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Hanukkah isn't the same time every year, either. But calendars tend not to be too out of sync with each other, because they have to track large-scale weather and agricultural phenomena.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:32 PM
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You're welcome.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:32 PM
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It's my little ritual in the morning. I just never got into coffee.

And here I always thought that the blood of Christian infants was your pick-me-up. I just can't keep up with you people!


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:32 PM
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But Hannakah is on a lunar calendar, too, and we managed to snag it.

Also, we are coming for Divali.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:33 PM
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The Wikipedia page indicates that it generally falls in the KwanzChristmaHannukka season (beginning with the ritual shopping day Black Friday and ending with the Ritual Consumption Day Dec. 25.)

Wurgh? The Islamic calendar is only 354 days long, so if it was on Xmas day one year, it would be a month earlier just three years from then.

Ramadan is sometimes in the summer, and sometimes in the winter. Like all Muslim dates. It sounds very unsatisfying to me.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:34 PM
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And here I always thought that the blood of Christian infants was your pick-me-up.

That's special-occasion food.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:34 PM
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17: but the Jewish calendar actually accounts for its year not being the same length as a real year, by adding an extra month every couple years to get back on track. the inscrutable Muslims have no need to associate a particular date with a particular kind of weather in that way.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:35 PM
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11: Right. Blame the wops.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:36 PM
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Further on 14: that is, hanukkah isn't the same time every year according to the gregorian calendar. It is the same time every year according to the jewish calendar.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:36 PM
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the same length as a real year

You are so gregoronormative.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:37 PM
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10: Speaking of which, I was at a children's string recital the other night and it was mostly Christmas songs but they had the three Jewish students present get up and play the Dreidl song.

Man, that song is lame. The Chosen People need a new, better token song, and I don't mean this one.

This one is great, but won't work, for obvious reasons.

This one either.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:38 PM
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"Everyone tries to blame the crucifixion on the Jews, then the Jews try to pawn it off on the Romans. I'm one of the few people who blame the blacks."


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:39 PM
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"Blame the wops" is a strategy to live by.

Thanks, Gonerill. I'm ashamed to admit that the page puzzled me because I couldn't just slide the image onto my desktop like I do with gif and jpg files.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:40 PM
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The earth does take a known period of time to revolve around the sun, you know. I'm proud that the Christians managed to adopt a logical calendar, continuing our unbroken streak of accepting new astronomical concepts without controversy.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:40 PM
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Ramadan is sometimes in the summer, and sometimes in the winter. Like all Muslim dates. It sounds very unsatisfying to me.

Totally. What if you're a Muslim living in Fairbanks, and Ramadan is in midsummer?

Lent comes just at the right time, so you can drop a few pounds in advance of swimsuit season (if you bother to fast, of course).


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:41 PM
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11: Just like the Jews to refuse to take responsibility for their own actions.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:41 PM
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That leap year jazz is so inelegant. You want to talk about calendars that track the real year, you talk about Mayans.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:42 PM
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I totally vote we normalize Diwali. Any holiday that includes more lighting displays = +++.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:43 PM
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A+++. WOULD CELEBRATE THIS HOLIDAY AGAIN.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:44 PM
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31: "+++" in terms of wasted fossil fuels, I imagine. Suburban christmas lights are already bad enough. Why do you hate Mother Earth?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:44 PM
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Put one of those bad boys up in the town square and watch the fun start.

This sentence has now made me laugh out loud three times.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:44 PM
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33: I live in So Cal, baby. Solar-powered outdoor lights !!!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:45 PM
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I don't know if crucifying DJ Khaled is the right idea, FL.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:45 PM
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You want to talk about calendars that track the real year, you talk about Mayans.

Apparently the current Mayan calendar ends on my birthday five years from now. I should probably start planning a blowout party now &mdash maybe no cleanup afterwards!


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:48 PM
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couldn't just slide the image onto my desktop like I do with gif and jpg files.

Do you want me to send you a PDF?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:49 PM
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Caroline's school pageant had a very hard time coming up with a Kwanzaa song. They won't up singing something to the tune of twinkle twinkle, but I think they just made it up.

Of course, no one at her school actually celebrates Kwanzaa. Also, a few probably celebrate holidays like Divali and Eid, but didn't get any songs at all.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:49 PM
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Actually our outdoor lights are not yet up. Why? Because Mr. B. is out of town and that is totally a man's job.

I did finally decorate a damn tree yesterday with PK, though. Complete with non-electricity using candles, thankyouverymuch. Now all I have to do is go buy some hooks for all the shiny bulbs and then clean up the damn ornament boxes all over the floor.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:49 PM
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So wait.

Guys, wait.

Did anybody notice the ad on Blingdom of God?

For Expelled: The Movie

The movie, that is the big-budget documentary, that features Ben Stein taking on the godless evolutionary biologists who built Auschwitz?

What the hell?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:49 PM
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Can someone help me with Mac stuff? I downloaded a widget and I get the "need stuffit engine" error message. Can I fix this without paying money?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:50 PM
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Also, the whole point of assimilating Divali is so that we can have *one* holiday where we string lights, but it is totally ambiguous which tradition the lights honor.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:51 PM
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When I said "Romans" I was actually blaming the Catholics.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:51 PM
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The Catholics killed Christ? Great, maybe we can stop Giuliani from being elected that way.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:52 PM
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Can someone help me with Mac stuff? I downloaded a widget and I get the "need stuffit engine" error message. Can I fix this without paying money?

What's the widget? What's the file extension of the download?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:52 PM
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That's not for real. Is it?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:52 PM
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Gonerill, that would make me pleased and ashamed at the same time, just like that night at the convention.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:52 PM
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47: I think so, yes.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:53 PM
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The stuffit expander is free, btw. You can get it here. I'm surprised to see a dashboard widget compressed with it, though.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:53 PM
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Or am I being trolled?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:54 PM
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43: Totally. If the Muslims would just get with the light stringing, we'd accept them.

45: I'll go along with that. Maybe it also means that we can start ignoring the pope.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:54 PM
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The file name is "prayerpbasicsetup.zip." I think my colleagues will react in ways that are amusing to watch if my computer plays the adhan five times a day.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:54 PM
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If I'm being trolled, I'll just out everyone here and have the Feds raid UnfoggDCon.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:55 PM
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49: Jesus. Who are these crazy-ass people, and why is Ben Stein rejecting his pedantic heritage to enable them?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:55 PM
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They'll think you're mocking Muslims—maybe even your Muslim students who visit you during office hours—and vote to deny you tenure.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:55 PM
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People, your zip files mean nothing compared to the utter insanity of the link in 41.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:56 PM
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Labs, you're willing to go a long way just to annoy people.

Hey, M/tch, my boyfriend appears to be working (the asshole), and Ben doesn't know the answer to this question: how would you reheat a stuffed roasted chicken without drying it out? I've stuck it in the oven on low heat covered in foil, but I'm unconvinced that this is going to actually work very well.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:56 PM
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53: OK, then just download stuffit expander, drop the prayer thing onto it and it should uncompress the files for you to install with whatever consequences.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:57 PM
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how would you reheat a stuffed roasted chicken without drying it out?

Boil it, duh.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:58 PM
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why is Ben Stein rejecting his pedantic heritage to enable them?

Oh wait. Money. Duh.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:58 PM
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Not being trolled. I'm re-downloading stuffit now.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:58 PM
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60: Preferable without ruining it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 2:58 PM
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62: OK. 9/11 made me paranoid.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:02 PM
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41 provides a pretty compelling narrative, if you have forgotten who the President is.


Posted by: destroyer | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:02 PM
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I don't mind so much the fact that the Catholics killed Jesus, but do they have to go and flaunt the fact with all those crucifixes everywhere? Seems rather in poor taste.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:03 PM
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how would you reheat a stuffed roasted chicken without drying it out

Bake it in a pot with a lid and add a little bit of water to the bottom. Even better if you have a rack to put the chicken on, but not necessary.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:04 PM
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Bake it in a pot with a lid and add a little bit of water to the bottom.

Let the off-blog record show that this is the functional equivalent of something I did in fact suggest.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:05 PM
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Sweet! A little kaaba in my dock. Thanks!


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:07 PM
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66 could do with at least one fewer "fact".

As for the chicken, my instinct would be to add a little broth or water (and/or maybe some onions or other high-water-content vegetable) to the bottom of the pan the chicken is in and let that steam up and help keep things moist.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:08 PM
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PBUM!


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:08 PM
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67 sounds exactly right.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:09 PM
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Okay, I can do that easy. Thanks!

(It was stuffed with fennel already, so that should help, I hope.)


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:10 PM
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Wow, I'm on the edge of my seat wondering how the chicken turned out. And 40 minutes til Isha starts.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:24 PM
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So when did your conversion to Islam take place, Labs?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:26 PM
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Wow, I'm on the edge of my seat wondering how the chicken turned out.

I'm sorry to tell you that the chicken died, Fontana.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:27 PM
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One doesn't acquire SuperKoranic Fellatio Powers by remaining an infidel, ben.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:29 PM
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That doesn't answer my question, Mai-tai.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:30 PM
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76: You're pregnant! Zounds and zomg!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:31 PM
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using candles, thankyouverymuch. Now all I have to do is go buy

...batteries for the smoke alarm and a couple fire extinguishers.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:35 PM
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Ben, we're all born Muslims, but some of us stray from the path.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:41 PM
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That doesn't answer my question, Mai-tai.

Okay, it took place in the evening.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:42 PM
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76: now I've got that Aerosmith song in my head.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:44 PM
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Fuck Kwanzaa, man. I lost 20 bucks to my Dad last Christmas betting that Kwanzaa wasn't made up.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 3:48 PM
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Goddamn me, that was a good fucking chicken. Mmmmmm-mm.

Labs, it's just me and PK, so there's plenty left, plus roasted fennel and mashed potatoes and I made a big pan of gravy. You're welcome for dinner.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 4:19 PM
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batteries for the smoke alarm and a couple fire extinguishers.

The smoke alarm's a non issue, since you don't leave candles burning on a tree without an adult in the room, duh. But yes, there is always a fire extinguisher in the room at Xmas season.

What can I say, those Germans, they hang onto the old traditions. And it is awfully pretty.

84: All holidays are basically made up.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 4:22 PM
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holy blinking bismillah stars.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 4:22 PM
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Fennel roasted with chicken is awesome.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 4:25 PM
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It is that. And PK doesn't like it, so more fennel for me!

Though that means that when we have it again for a late dinner, I'll have to make him some greens. Or some kind of vegetable. But since the entire meal is white & brown anyway, it's not like that's a bad thing.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 4:30 PM
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I guess we're not allowed to mention Festivus?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 5:24 PM
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I would ask an actual Muslim, but my impression is that Mohammed---who had access to plenty of reliable, leap-year corrected calendars---purposefully (or at the order of Gabriel or whatnot) designed the Islamic calendar to rotate around the seasonal calendar to avoid exactly what you might accomplish by smushing Eids together with Christakah Solstice. I.e. it would be too easy for Islamic holidays to turn into seasonal, nature-worshipping, pagan holidays if they were consistently associated with them. An unnatural rotating calendar is thus more abstract, cyclical commemoration focused totally on God.


Posted by: Saheli | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 5:35 PM
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This song needs to be part of Dc Unfogged:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2j7Jx5lRhQ


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 5:40 PM
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Glad to hear the meal turned out well, B.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 5:45 PM
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Thanks! And thanks for the help.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 5:54 PM
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92: Holy crap, I just downloaded that song yesterday for a planned Unfogged Xmas mix.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 5:55 PM
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More holy crap: so I stopped the Back Door Santa video from playing b/c I'm trying to upload something, and said to PK, sorry about that. What? he says. I stopped the song, I say. That's okay, he says, it was kinda disturbing. Why? I ask. You know *perfectly well* why," he says.

Because that girl was doing a sexy dance to a Santa song?

Exactly, he says.

I had no idea that that shit had yet registered with him. Wow.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 5:57 PM
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That's okay, he says, it was kinda disturbing. Why? I ask. You know *perfectly well* why," he says.

Your kid is going to grow up so cool, B.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 6:48 PM
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Sounds like PK is due for a trip to the strip club with dad.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 6:57 PM
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yea, I didnt like the video, but I love the song.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 7:24 PM
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But, I am hardly to be trusted with kids. My kid played with a spare speculum when he was a kid.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 7:25 PM
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You certainly are a cautious one, will, keeping a spare speculum handy, just in case the main speculum fails.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 7:39 PM
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Because that girl was doing a sexy dance to a Santa song?

What, is PK worried that Santa will favor her with better gifts?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 7:41 PM
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He already has, M/tch. He already has.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 8:00 PM
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Will, I hadn't taken you for an Irigaray fan.


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101: I bet you didn't know that divorce lawyers and gynecologists use the same instruments.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 8:36 PM
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Makes sense now that you think abou.... wait, no, it doesn't at all.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 8:37 PM
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91: The sarcastic me who is pretending to root for the Christmas/Hannakah/Borg collective is pissed off to hear this. But the real me is impressed with the prophet for this move.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 8:39 PM
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My kid played with a spare speculum when he was a kid.

That's cool, I showed PK my vulva when he started asking about the differences between boys and girls.

Parsimon, thanks. I think he's already pretty rad.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-15-07 8:45 PM
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Was that before or after you started requiring him to lick your ass?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 2:08 AM
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the islamic calendar moves all around the year for another reason too, related to worldwide proseltyzing: if ramadan were always at the same time of year it would be difficult for people living in some places and easy for others. this way it sometimes falls during a hot or otherwise inconvenient time for people living everywhere. I really don't know what people living in the far northern latitudes do when ramadan falls during summer.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 3:39 AM
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110: they have official sunset/sunrise times set for them. It's a problem as far south as Northern Scotland.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 3:54 AM
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B, could you email me about the differences between boys and girls?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 4:09 AM
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Glad to see the Blingdom of God getting wider recognition after years of being featured on the blogrolls of lesser-known blogs.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 8:34 AM
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108
that is radical
it's not that i'm a prude and questioning your parenting methods, you are obviously a great parent
but it could be damaging to a child's psycho starting something like oedipus complex
just my opinion
those cartoons back several threads were great


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 8:53 AM
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There's a mosque right around the corner from me, and one day, when the imman started up the calls for prayers at like 6:12 in the evening, I tried to look up the schedule. Oh my goodness: no wonder Muslims were famous for their skill in mathematics. There were about five competing schools of interpretative equations, into which one is supposed to plug the latitude, angle of the sun and moon at their zeniths, etc. I have no idea which school my local imman is following, and I have no idea when the prayers will be sung. It will probably be different every day. No wonder immans are still calling believers to prayer: make the professional do the flipping equations!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 9:05 AM
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114: The age at which kids typically start wondering about the difference between boys and girls is also an age at which kids are not traumatized by nudity, parental or otherwise. I wouldn't worry too much about PK's psyche -- at least not on this basis...


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 12:26 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about PK's psyche -- at least not on this basis...

Right, this is just a drop in the bucket.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 12:28 PM
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An/nie Sprin/kle made a name for herself showing her cervix to audiences. Healthy for society? Giggly for the guys? I had mixed responses.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 12:41 PM
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The Muslim calendar isn't unnatural, just an odd solar-lunar mix. Of course, on the face of the earth the sun cycle is much more significant than the moon cycle.

I asked an Iranian guy who had lived in Alaska what an Alaskan Muslim would do if Ramadan happened at the summer equinox (the midnight sun.) He was secular and just said "There are no Muslims in Alaska", which probably is almost true.


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Solstice, I meant.

Arctic Ramadan: one answer here

Another one here


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yeah, psyche, thanks, i often just invent my words
when i don't know how to say it, should refer more to dictionary
so that psycho was not "psycho" like a weirdo
i am sorry if it sounded like that
just short of psychology something
i don't know may be it is better for children to be exposed early to nudity and other sex related topix to grow up more open and uninhibited
just it's very different from my upbringing


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B, could you email me about the differences between boys and girls?

Talk to Roberta about it.

but it could be damaging to a child's psycho starting something like oedipus complex

Nah. He has an Oedipus complex, but they get that anyway. And the idea that people's bodies are just bodies is a good one. Plus like DK said, he was about two--not yet worried about teh sexx.

Anyhoo, it's where they come from, they best not be all traumatized about it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 2:22 PM
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many Muslims use the sunrise/sunset times of the nearest major metropolitan area south of the circle

Man, that's gotta suck. "Quick! You've got 45 minutes to eat!"

i don't know may be it is better for children to be exposed early to nudity and other sex related topix to grow up more open and uninhibited
just it's very different from my upbringing

Oh for sure. But don't worry, I think he's okay. He didn't seem traumatized by the shower we just took, either.


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a muslim living north of the arctic circle would not survive a summer Ramadan, implying that no muslim can permanently live in arctic (or antarctic) regions.

Then again, this seems like a very sensible religion indeed.


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Alternately, north of the Arctic circle Muslims quickly evolve to become superhumans who can go without sleep and food.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 2:28 PM
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That said, I'm off to walk to the park with PK, who points out that it's a lovely warm sunny day and we should get our butts outside. Enjoy the snow, suckers.


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I showed PK my vulva

That wold explain his rigid posture in the Santa picture.


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The age at which kids typically start wondering about the difference between boys and girls is also an age at which kids are not traumatized by nudity, parental or otherwise

Di is correct. If you teach them at a young age, then they are not traumatized.

My son could tell you all about fallopian tubes by the time he was 5. My son didnt have much of a choice. But, even if our circumstances werent what they were, I would have wanted him to learn about this stuff early.

Periods, tampons, reproductive issues, biology ....all of this is natural stuff. A child shouldnt learn that it is shameful, secret stuff that we giggle about.


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Hee hee. You said tampons.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 5:02 PM
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Related to a previous discussion, I have had to empty my pockets after walking into a courthouse only to discover that I had two pink panty liners in my pocket.


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130: the security guards presumably thought you were a gracious and well-prepared guest.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 5:11 PM
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No more masturbating to Dan Fogelberg.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-16-07 7:17 PM
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