Re: Only Two More Years Of Those Annoying Glasses

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Why not go bra-less? It's even more festive.


Posted by: Matt | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:08 PM
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Quite so.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:09 PM
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I don't know what kind of idiot thought to schedule New Year's Eve so soon after UnfoggeDCon. Didn't they know we'd be tired?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:10 PM
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I should wait until after the third comment to note that there's no more room on the site for a "Matt" handle. I should.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:10 PM
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3 - Dude, last year UnfoggeDCon was on the 30th. I zombie-walked through NYE.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:11 PM
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And I did.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:11 PM
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To be true, you zombie danced.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:11 PM
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5: goddamn that Dick Clark. He should really plan better.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:12 PM
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1 & 4 - Yeah, sorry Matt. You have to pick a new name.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:12 PM
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Zombie knife-fought.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:12 PM
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Bra-less is always more fun in theory, in my experience.

New Year's shouldn't be this close to Christmas.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:12 PM
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11: It depends to whom the fun is being ascribed.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:13 PM
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No bra is fine; sports bra is deprecated.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:13 PM
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Bra-less is fine when you've been in your pajamas all day, like I have. Can I wear my pajamas tonight?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:14 PM
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Bras help some of us have a better silhouette under clothes. I'm with Cala.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:14 PM
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I confirm that eekbeat and I have both showered since the UFDC party. Much else has not occurred.

I am, however, going to a local blogger party tonight. It will almost certainly be a disappointment, alack.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:19 PM
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But pajamas are indeed bra-free zones.

I think we both forgot about New Year's until today when we each hoped the other didn't care if we had plans.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:19 PM
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Just how much energy are we talking about here?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:22 PM
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The mental energy required to decide to go out.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:23 PM
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I meant for Becks to put on a bra.

There's no reason at all to go out on NYE.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:24 PM
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I meant that, too. To decide to put on a bra is to decide that you're doing something besides sitting around the house.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:25 PM
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21: pretty much the opposite for me.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:26 PM
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Cala is sexist.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:28 PM
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So it's okay if I don't go to the traditional New Year's Eve party down by the water, at which Belgian beers will be sampled, shrimp will be eaten, other things will be partaken of, and eventually people will shiveringly clutch glasses of champagne while more-or-less successfully setting off fireworks over the Bay?

Because, you know, it doesn't mean I'm lame, it really doesn't.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:32 PM
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I don't even own a bra!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:32 PM
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We're having a dozen people over: it's more fun to do fireworks with more people. (Germans do fireworks on NYE. It's a much better idea to have your fireworks-holiday when it's dark, cold, and wet (or snowy) than in the summer.)

I don't understand the title of the post. A glass bra might well add to the silouette, but I can see a number of potential downsides . . . (A woman friend once told me that, in her view, the perfect breast would just fill a champagne glass.)


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:32 PM
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A woman friend once told me that, in her view, the perfect breast would just fill a champagne glass

This probably has its origins in the story that champagne glasses were modeled on the breasts of...was it Marie Antoinette?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:34 PM
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Don't be lame, parsimon; go out.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:35 PM
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One seriously hopes that she wasn't talking about flutes.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:35 PM
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Erm...


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:35 PM
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Pwned, of course.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:36 PM
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That's a big nipple.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:36 PM
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27: Marie Antoinette is certainly the story, but I'm sure it's a myth.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:36 PM
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the title is in reference to the "200X" glasses people wear at new years, with the eye-holes at the zeros. Problem is, you can easily make glasses out of "2010", too.

And I hope your friend was referring to the champaign cocktail glasses, and not flutes.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:37 PM
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double-pwned.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:38 PM
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29, 30: no, coupes.

The post title refers to those giant novelty glasses with a "2" on one side, a single digit (say "8") on the other, and in between two zeroes, through which one peeps.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:39 PM
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I am profoundly not hungry at all today, though I must pad the old stomach against the gin I'm bringing.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:39 PM
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Y'all have never seen a breast that looks (when the woman is bending over, of course) about the size and shape of a champagne flute? What kind of breastonormative screening goes on at these Russian baths, anyway?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:40 PM
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Ben is pwn-trolling.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:40 PM
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36: The whole point of that comment was to demonstrate that you knew the correct word for flat champagne glasses, right?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:40 PM
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Snopes says no. But it does bear on what my friend said (using a coupe, not a flute, as the proper glass): champagne coupes were used to measure prospective dancers for the Follies Bergere.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:41 PM
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38: That long and narrow at the base? No.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:41 PM
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38: I have not seen these breasts, no. This reminds me vaguely of that ogged comment that proved he'd never gotten a blowjob.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:42 PM
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I understand that breasts of that shape feel oddly like bags of sand.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:43 PM
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Laugh it up, tittynormers.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:43 PM
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Personally, I like coupes more than flutes. I understand that they're deprecated these days, and why, and all, but still. Bah.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:44 PM
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Maybe you are thinking of cow udders, ogged?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:44 PM
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Perhaps it is the penis that should fit into the champagne flute?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:45 PM
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If I'd known it was going to be that kind of New Year's party, etc, etc.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:46 PM
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41: The story I heard in re coupes was they were modeled on the breasts of Marie Antoinette. I don't care if it is true or not.

Flutes are vastly superior. Heh. Flute.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:47 PM
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I don't suppose anyone is going to speak up now to say that they have champagne flute breasts. But I have no doubt that soon the lurkers will support me in email.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:47 PM
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I have some champagne flute breasts in the fridge, next to the yogurty penis.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:49 PM
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Coupes are really shallow. That's not a lot of boob.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:49 PM
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Flutes could be aged coupes.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:50 PM
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I think I have dessert-bowl boobs.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:50 PM
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53: Yes, but was a time the small pert ones were associated with the aristos and the big ones with the peasants. Sort of like big dicks in ancient Roman and Greek statuary: strictly for slaves and comic figures.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:51 PM
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56: ...which is why women are always looking for a man with "a good sense of humor."


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:52 PM
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Coupes are really shallow. That's not a lot of boob.

More than a mouthful is too much.

Or not.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:52 PM
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56: You know, I had a comment about soup bowls, sizes and Sicilian peasantry, and how the French have little boobs written, and I deleted it. No more!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:52 PM
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Good lord that verb ended up in a weird place.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 5:53 PM
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57: Ha!
59: Uncensor yourself, Cala!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:00 PM
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Dude, I have relatives whose boobs are the size of toddlers.

There is no missing possessive there.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:02 PM
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The mental energy required to decide to go out.

The sad thing is that I did leave the house on at least three occasions today. Yay for winter coats and baggy hoodies.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:04 PM
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The French have little boobs written? I lust after the clothes I see in the window of teh Christian Dior store, because they are made for women with boobs without being too big elsewhere.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:04 PM
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And the title of the post is about the 200X glasses. I meant two more years after this one, with 2009 and 2010.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:04 PM
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Although I guess there are actually 11 more in this century, as they'll surely resurrect them for 2020, 2030, etc.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:05 PM
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Don't be lame, parsimon; go out.

Back atcha. I have, however, nicely decorated a gift for the hosts, with my apologies, etc. etc. We have had the same gathering for years now, after all. And there are many definitions of lame.

But you're all talking about tits! You'll turn my head yet.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:06 PM
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Cala had a post written claiming that the French have little boobs. What of it?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:06 PM
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63: I salute you. I feel naked without a bra, even with a baggy sweatshirt & sweatpants & winter coats.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:07 PM
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More laziness: guess what won in the contest of "My mouth tastes like onions. I could either go down the hall and brush my teeth or take a swig of this bourbon here."


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:07 PM
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Emerson is here at my apartment drinking beer. He says he likes our Queens neighbourhood.


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:12 PM
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sounds like deliciousness won.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:17 PM
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Emerson is here at my apartment

Going public so soon? This is going to be wild year.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:21 PM
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Emerson is here at my apartment drinking beer. He says he likes our Queens neighbourhood.

When's the baby due, anyway?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:23 PM
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dew evaporates --
and all our life is dew:
so dear, so fresh, so fleeting
(Issa)

again not seasonal, but it's a good new year greeting, reflective
so after work i've been to Manhattan, walked around few blocks, couldn't get into the Times Square, streets were blocked and police was asking about some cards to get in, had no idea what cards, looked at the macy's window displays
could have stayed more if i had had companions
the next yr i won't be here


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:23 PM
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In the original story Cinderella had to fit into a champagne flute, which was changed into a glass slipper for the foot fetishist version.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:24 PM
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All praise to a wild year, indeed. Emerson proves himself to be quietly wild -- it's all in the hair.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:25 PM
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Mr Adjunct is shocked -- shocked!. Not that he has read any of these comments. But he just walked into the living room to find Emerson on one computer and me on another. "Whatever happened to conversation?" I think he wants one of us to get off so he can check his email.


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:32 PM
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But he just walked into the living room to find Emerson on one computer and me on another. "Whatever happened to conversation?" I think he wants one of us to get off so he can check his email.

The fruit is not so much low-hanging as actively tunneling toward the earth's core.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:34 PM
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God, even the set up is making me blush.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:36 PM
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Gonerill's just sulking because his spousal unit is hanging out in the Austin Powers room.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:37 PM
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Actually, she's back now.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:41 PM
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Ah, no excuse then!


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:42 PM
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This is all perfectly normal, perfectly normal. Two people in a room, each on a computer. What's to note?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:42 PM
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84: Nowadays, yeah, I think it is normal. Actually, I thought we could take turns on one machine, but Emerson strongly hinted I should get my own computer.


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:49 PM
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There is something to be said for conversation.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:52 PM
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IA and I are both embarassed to be talking to Ogged and Gonerill on the internet on New Years Eve.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:55 PM
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I think I'm going to watch Into Great Silence tonight.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 6:58 PM
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Sounds intense.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:00 PM
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88: Beautiful movie. I think Flippanter Pater, who saw it in the theater, has watched the DVD several times.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:00 PM
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I looked it up after you mentioned it here a while back, Flip.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:05 PM
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I wanted to watch that in the theater, but its run was delayed or cancelled or some such odd thing as that.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:05 PM
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yesterday i tried to watch inland empire
a very strange film, all those mapped facial expressions were used i think
was not in a mood to read those and switched to the other movie, 3 movies in a row was like too much
but it was before flickr


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:07 PM
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Speaking of intense films, for a while I considered showing my Le Sang de Bêtes to one of my classes, but decided against it in the end.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:10 PM
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69. Not giving up seclusion (and meditation), constantly [living in accordance with the doctrine in the world of phenomena], understanding the peril (which is) in existences, one should wander solitary as a rhinoceros horn.

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71. Not trembling, as a lion (does not tremble) at sounds, not caught up (with others), as the wind (is not caught up) in a net, not defiled (by passion), as a lotus (is not defiled) by water, one should wander solitary as a rhinceros horn.

72. Wandering victorious, having overcome like a strong-toothed lion, the king of beasts, one should resort to secluded lodgings, one should wander solitary as a rhinoceros horn.

From The Rhinoceros Horn, obviously. And Other Early Buddhist Poems. (The Group of Discourses (Sutta-Nipa), Volume I)


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:11 PM
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Aren't rhinoceros horns not particularly solitary, being generally found accompanied by at least one rhinoceros?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:12 PM
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88: I like movies about monks/priests/religious dudes. Andrei Rublyov might be my favorite. Winter Light is good, too, in an entirely different way.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:14 PM
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Another amazing, intense short film available on YouTube: Farrokhzad's The House Is Black, about a leper colony.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:15 PM
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96: I believe it is an extended koan. Should I backtrack through the book and see what it all means? I'll see.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:16 PM
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It is in their proximity that we find their solitude, young Lizard. Ommm.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:16 PM
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94: Yikes Gonerill. Are you a philosopher like mr. oudemia? He shows some heavy stuff in his animals and ethics class.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:18 PM
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91: I thought I'd mentioned it here. It is astonishingly beautiful.

Flippanter Pater knows someone who toured the Carthusian charterhouse in Vermont, while "the boys" were out walking one day. The secondhand descriptions make it sound very much like the main house shown in the movie.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:19 PM
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Rhino horns are prized in the Yemen for dagger handles and in China for aphrodisiacs. Not fun for the rhinos.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:22 PM
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There is no explanatory text. Here:

42. One is a man of the four quarters and not hostile, being pleased with whatever comes one's way. A fearless bearer of dangers, one should wander solitary as a rhinoceros horn.

That's as explicatory as you're gonna get.

Westerner.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:24 PM
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Are you a philosopher like mr. oudemia?

Sociology. The film is good for stuff on alienation & the division of labor, etc.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:34 PM
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A fearless bearer of dangers, one should wander solitary as a rhinoceros horn.

i.e., backed up at all times by three tons of actual rhino. Sage advice.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:37 PM
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Rhino horns are prized in the Yemen for dagger handles and in China for aphrodisiacs. Not fun for the rhinos.

Hooray for Viagra! Helping save endangered species the world over, or at least in China.

That said, I have pictures of the recently deceased tiger from the SF Zoo, taken two weeks ago, and in retrospect it is clearly thinking to itself "I can totally clear this stupid ditch." Wild animals are creatures to be reckoned with.


Posted by: water moccasin | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:40 PM
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106: Clearly.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 7:45 PM
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This reminds me that BR told me that there was a lively discussion at the party about the merits of viagra and the other ED drugs. I will not name names.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 8:30 PM
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109: And? I want to know which one is most likely to kill me instantly at the climax.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 9:06 PM
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110: Liquid Sky.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 9:09 PM
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Best/worst SF Zoo tiger story, from a keeper in the '50s:

We got a large piece of meat and tied it to a long bamboo pole and approached the tiger enclosure. We were at the other end of the bamboo pole - about 15 feet away from the meat. Baldwin held the pole at the edge of our side of the moat. Once the tiger saw it, he literally flew across the moat from his position on the other side, grabbed the meat, and sprung back to the grotto all in one graceful movement.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 12-31-07 10:17 PM
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59: We should have a thread where everyone has to use German syntax.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 4:21 PM
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We should have a thread everyone where use German syntax must.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 4:26 PM
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20: I went out for the first time this New Year's, with interesting results.

This year was also the first time in my entire life that I managed to secure a midnight kiss.

[Alternate version: For the first time went I this New Year's out, with interesting results.

This year was also the first time in my entire life, that I to secure a midnight kiss managed.]


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 4:30 PM
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"This year was also the first time in my entire life, that I managed, a midnight kiss to secure".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 4:36 PM
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i like the 1st version best
coz there are no commas


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 4:41 PM
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Should I have done something different with "with interesting results"?


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 4:44 PM
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i don't know
...some verb in its correct form....interesting results
or...and with interesting results
would not require a comma
but i'm not an expert
i just remember being told that too many commas are like bad in english sentence


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 4:58 PM
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You're right about commas in general, but I'm trying to convert an English sentence into German syntax. (I was mainly directing my last question at w-lfs-n.)


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 5:05 PM
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Read, it's not the quantity of the commas, but their quality that counts.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 5:06 PM
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I once had a professor write on a paper, "You write well but use too many em-dashes. Use commas."

But yes, read, basically what Nápi says: commas should clarify not obfuscate.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 5:34 PM
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I suppose the central issue is not really the commas as such, but the underlying syntax they reflect.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 5:36 PM
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Em dashes, semicolons, commas &mdash they're all good; so rich in nuance.

"You write well but use too many em-dashes. Use commas."

"Fuck &mdash wait for it &mdash you."


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 5:39 PM
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Becks, I sympathize with your predicament. It's evening now, and I have made it through the entire day without changing out of my pajamas. I hasten to add that my day included (1) shoveling the snow off the sidewalk; and (2) walking across the street to take food to an elderly neighbor.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 5:49 PM
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Fuck — wait for it — you.

It was a History of Sexuality class, so this indeed would've been an appropriate response. (Minus those extra spaces you've deployed on either side of the em-dashes </w-lfs-n>.)

Would that I had been more clever and less sheepish.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 5:51 PM
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I have made it through the entire day without changing out of my pajamas

Me too. No snow here (though maybe flurries tomorrow morning!), but I did go over and help my elderly next door neighbor find her hidden key after she locked herself out.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 5:59 PM
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Love for em dashes is something to be outgrown.

The nuance of a semicolon is unclear to me.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 6:07 PM
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I think of punctuation as analogous to musical phrasing. Some people can carry off phrasing in prose with just commas and periods, but I prefer less discipline as far as that's concerned.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 6:22 PM
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I will be watching closely for your future use of colons and semicolons, so that I can learn from you to be a more musical and less uptight prose stylist.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 6:32 PM
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I prefer you more disciplined, Kotsko.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 6:35 PM
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The nuance of a semicolon is unclear to me.

Semicolons are wonderful things. Kurt Vonnegut, Jr., didn't use any in his entire career, but that was a personal choice which shouldn't influence you one way or the other.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 6:50 PM
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Laurence Sterne should be everyone's guide to punctuation. Anything he does with punctuation is absolutely OK.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 6:58 PM
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Subject ConjugatedVerb Time Manner Place Object ActualVerb(s).

Kick any of the TMPO up front if you want. Then the verb, then the subject, then the rest. Subject-and-verb-always-next-to-each-other!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 7:13 PM
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I made Rah wait to finish cooking breakfast while I showered and dressed because I find it almost unbearable to go downstairs without showering and dressing. Then I promptly went back upstairs and have spent the rest of the day at the computer. I got dressed for you people; I don't see why you can't return the effort. Sheesh.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 7:34 PM
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135: I got dressed! At about 4 I got out of my jammies, took a shower, and put on yoga pants and a sweatshirt. I'm classy, yo.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 7:38 PM
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I got out of my jammies

heebie's gonna be so pissed.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 7:41 PM
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137: You know, I thought that I had better emphasize MY jammies, not Heebie's. I have never been anywhere near Heebie's Jammies!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 7:44 PM
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I got dressed for you people; I don't see why you can't return the effort. Sheesh.

The editor of Novy Mir began to read a prepublication copy of One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch in bed.
And then found himself so impressed that he not only got up but put on a suit and a necktie to finish with what he felt to be the requisite respect.
Says Markson.
Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 7:55 PM
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That is so completely awesome.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 8:14 PM
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I have never been anywhere near Heebie's Jammies!

Shoulda come to UnfoggeDCon, oudemia.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 01- 1-08 8:22 PM
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137: Possibly not half so much as if Jammies just got out of her, Stanley.


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