Re: Huck

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You think Red State Update is funny?


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 12:57 PM
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No, I think Red State Update is hilarious.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:00 PM
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What in specific do you like about it?


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:01 PM
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The hilarity.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:02 PM
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In addition to the fact that it's often hilarious, I love the verisimilitude of Red State Update. I've spent a lot of time in Tennessee, and I have sat across beer-can-strewn tables from guys (and gals) just like these two.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:15 PM
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And Kotsko was enlightened.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:24 PM
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I think he could have gotten there by himself, frankly.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:27 PM
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Wait, Ric Flair endorsed Huckabee?! WOOOOOOOOO!


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:33 PM
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it's truly odd to find myself:
1) understanding the appeal of jumping on a bandwagon based on the Iowa results
2) enjoying Huckabee beating Romney because of his folksy charm, even though it's not in the Democrats' interest & he'd probably be an even worse president than the Mittster.

I thought I was immune to this kind of thing--seemingly, though I have the pulse of the electorate this month. Very strange.


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:36 PM
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Ric Flair is just like Mike Huckabee.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:36 PM
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Yeah, he should've endorsed Romney.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:40 PM
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My shoes cost more than your house. Wooooo!


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:41 PM
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The biggest part of town!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:42 PM
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I continue to maintain that Mitt Romney would be the least bad Republican. Coincidentally, I also think he would be the easiest to beat in a general election.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:42 PM
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9 -- Oh I think Huckabee is the best nominee we could ask for, of those available. I can't see him winning any state that Kerry won in 2004, and I think we can take quite a few more.

He's not going to win, but he'll keep the other side in disarray a while longer, and maybe embitter his supporters enough so that a non-trivial number stays home rather than vote Giuliani or Mitt.

If Obama can get the rugrats to the polls -- as he's just done in a pretty tough, but small, environment -- this thing is not going to be close.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:47 PM
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14: least bad Republican

Belushya Guba - least cold place in Novaya Zemlya.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:48 PM
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14 -- I'll agree that Romney is probably the least bad in office. I don't think he's the easiest opponent in the general. Not at all.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 1:49 PM
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Romney would be such an easy opponent in the general. Nobody actually likes him. Not even the Mormons.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 2:22 PM
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I have been driving my family crazy by quoting that Red State Update bit every time I think about the Republican candidates.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 2:52 PM
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A friend tells me the Democrats have tons of oppo research on Huckabee in their back pocket that they're just waiting to unleash in a general election. My gut is that Obama would trounce Huckabee, but that the Huckster would be a tough opponent for Clinton or Edwards.

Is it OK to make fun of the earnest white kids now?


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 2:54 PM
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Is it OK to make fun of the earnest white kids now?

Always.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 2:56 PM
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A friend tells me the Democrats have tons of oppo research on Huckabee

they probably do. Mena Airfield in Arkansas is a very, very dodgy place in the parapolitics literature, and it didn't stop being so after Clinton left. (Curiously, the Scaife/American Spectator "Arkansas Project" never seemed to touch this one).


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 3:05 PM
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Ric Flair endorsed Huckabee?!

Following Chuck Norris' endorsement, I think we can safely say that Huckabee has sewn up the 8-12 demographic.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 3:24 PM
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Do 8-12 year olds actually know who Ric Flair is? Is there some Classic Wrestling Network I don't know about that's hugely popular?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 3:37 PM
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22: Curiously, the Scaife/American Spectator "Arkansas Project" never seemed to touch this one

I am pretty sure it did not come up in the '92 general campaign (after getting some play in the primaries) because of potential connections to Bush/CIA/contras —neither side was looking to go there. Possibly that sensitivity carried over into Scaife et al.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 3:58 PM
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Red State Update is hilarious in the true sense of the word.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 3:59 PM
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Do 8-12 year olds actually know who Ric Flair is?

Mine does, but not for wrestling.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:14 PM
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Is there some Classic Wrestling Network I don't know about that's hugely popular?

Yes, the Secret Classic Wrestling Network. It comes on at a secret time, on a secret channel. I've already said too much.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:29 PM
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In a Huckabee (Fuck Me!) administration, would Chuck Norris or Ric Flair be Secretary of Defense? I guess whoever doesn't get that job could be NSA. He should go ahead and announce this, even if it does seem a little premature.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:36 PM
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Maybe Hulk Hogan could be the ambassador to Iraq, and we could send Stallone back to Afghanistan.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:36 PM
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In a Huckabee (Fuck Me!) administration, would Chuck Norris or Ric Flair be Secretary of Defense?

Presumably Ric Flair, since Norris would be Vice President.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:38 PM
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Yes, the Secret Classic Wrestling Network.

THE MOST LIBERALLY BIASED OF THEM ALL


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:42 PM
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30 is funny.

And Red State Update is hilarious. Night at the Creation Museum.


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:43 PM
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Chuck Norris would be Secretary of Offense.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:43 PM
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we could send Stallone back to Afghanistan.

Fuck that. Send him back to Nam!

(I see Rambo is getting a theatrical re-release. What's that about?)


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:53 PM
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34. Sweet. And he would have a License to Kill.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:59 PM
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Chuck Norris is nobody's secretary.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 4:59 PM
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Chuck Norris is nobody's secretary.

No, but he is an amanuensis.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 5:06 PM
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I'm telling you, one heartbeat away. Right where he needs to be.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 5:10 PM
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I don't think I could bring myself to vote against a ticket that included Lone Wolf McQuade.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 5:17 PM
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Better sign on to the Romney campaign, then. I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 5:23 PM
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I see Rambo is getting a theatrical re-release. What's that about?

It's not a re-release, it's a new Rambo sequel. Apparently this time Rambo takes on the Burmese junta.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 5:34 PM
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That was an excellent Red State Update. I'm not too proud to admit that I enjoy those guys.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 7:16 PM
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Do 8-12 year olds actually know who Ric Flair is?

If they watch WWE they do. My wife was flipping around channels the other night, and they had him in the ring. My wife had no idea who he was. "Holy shit it's Nature Boy! Go back, go back!" Flair comes in at about 2:07, where a Woooo! is the starting note of Also Sprach. That pink robe is a thing of beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v82zm_FBqU


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01- 5-08 7:44 PM
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I know we're all Democrats around here, but Huckabee and Romney are both miles ahead of the other Republican candidates...I'd take Huck over Romney because I think he'd be less obsequious to the crazies in the Republican party and better on foreign policy than Romney, but Romney would be better on abortion, so it's your call.

But still, I'm tremendously enjoying the way things are going on the Rep side. Go Huck!

P.S Official PGD choice for $7 white wine to go with simple baked fish and lemon juice...Muscadet! Sevre et Maine!


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:08 PM
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I would probably prefer Romney, simply because Huckabee seems wildly out of his league. Romney, at least, could play CEO and not destroy the world.


Posted by: Sharkey | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:11 PM
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better on foreign policy than Romney

Since neither of them seems to know a thing about foreign policy, I'm not sure how you would even go about determining this.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:12 PM
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Sevre et Maine!

Sever and, uh, head?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:15 PM
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Yeah, actually listening to this song reminded me of that weird nutty side of Huck...his crazy tax plans for one thing. I think he has good instincts if he understood reality, but it's a little unclear that he does.

I'm worried that Romney would be tempted to play CEO with the entire world. Make Islamic fundamentalism disappear with the wave of a Powerpoint slide! He's catered to the crazies on foreign policy in this primary much more than Huckabee has.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:15 PM
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Can anyone direct me to the most comprehensive evaluation of the Swift Boaters? A good friend of mine popped out with the belief that Kerry's war record was worthless, that he exaggerated it upon his return from Vietnam and during the campaign, and since I hadn't actually watched the footage from the seventies that was so damning, I couldn't back up my not-recently-bolstered assumption that it was a load of crap.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:16 PM
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Sever and, uh, head?

Dude, I'm just reading the label.

Since neither of them seems to know a thing about foreign policy, I'm not sure how you would even go about determining this.

Huckabee has consistently shown as good instincts as you can show in a Republican primary. He's the only Republican candidate besides Ron Paul who has come out for closing Guantanamo Bay and against waterboarding.

In contrast, here's Romney's power point presentation on dominating the world through military force, presented at the American Enterprise Institute. Read beneath the rational patina to the deep neocon craziness beneath.

http://www.mittromney.com/News/Photo-Albums/AEI_PowerPoint


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:26 PM
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Also, I assume "Sevre et Maine" refers, like other French wine labels, to a geographical region. The French government certifies wine as coming from the traditional style of particular regions, each of which uses a particular historical combination of grape varietals and winemaking styles, presumably adopted to their soil and climate.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:34 PM
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51: Yglesias:

Huckabee just said in a debate that conditions in Guantanamo are "too good."


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:45 PM
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To be served with Sevruga caviar and Maine lobster?

But in fact you seem to be right.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:46 PM
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Huckabee just said in a debate that conditions in Guantanamo are "too good."

What?! For real, he actually said that? Link? clip? documentation?


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:51 PM
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It looks like 53 and my 51 are both compatible, but in a way that is not to the advantage of Huckabee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-1YLwQp6-E

But in fact you seem to be right

I vary in how accurate I am on politics, especially the views of Republican candidates. But on French wine I am ALWAYS right. In fact I would claim to be the leading Unfogged authority on that topic.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 9:57 PM
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FRENCH WINE OFF!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 10:02 PM
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50: Can anyone direct me to the most comprehensive evaluation of the Swift Boaters?

This site at eRiposte is pretty good and seems to be fairly comprehensive.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 10:03 PM
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57: Oh, you *wish* you'd get invited to one of those.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 10:13 PM
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thank you, 58.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01- 6-08 10:20 PM
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"Holocaust? They ain't just abortin' Jewish babies, are they?"


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 01- 7-08 1:56 AM
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