Hey Lizard, check your unfogged email account.
I'm pleased to report that I have, in fact, been able to unsee the referent of Apo's plate. I recall the discussion here, I recall being repulsed, I recall clicking away pretty quickly. What I can't recall is the content.
Thank god.
2: Didn't get it. Try my hotmail (mouseover my name)?
4: Don't be sure it won't come back to you in the middle of the night one day. Just saying.
JRoth, next you should google 2 Girls 1 Finger.
I saw FTH9ERS, which I puzzled over until I saw the huge Raider's sticker. Then I was amazed.
4: have you seen the behind the scenes documentary?
GAYMER
So. Incredibly. Jealous.
Can someone give a rough description of the content of this image for those of us at work? Was anyone hurt or killed in the production of this image?
FTH9ERS
I don't get it. Or, I don't get it if there's a very clever explanation.
Nothing linked so far is NSFW, rob. The audio for the thing I linked might be, but only if you're really paying attention.
It's perfectly safe, RH-C, just a picture of a license plate.
I meant the image the plate was referring to, although I have now found the sfw description at wikipedia
13: And here we thought you were being a gentleman, and not talking about BPL.
16: Oh, yes, my mistake. Not so SFW, that.
I can't figure out if it is real or not, but this appears to be a real life instantiation of the apocryphal "3M TA3" vanity plate.
I accidentally clicked on the goatse.cx image so many times over the years that I actually became desensitized to it, something that scarcely seems possible with the 2 Girls video.
22: Watch it a few hundred times and report back, ok?
F[uck]TH[e][4]9ERS.
Oh, then I did get it.
the image the plate was referring to
Not just an image, yo.
Labs, I think you might prefer this one.
Strangely, I laughed all the way through 2 Girls 1 Cup, and just watched 2 Girl 1 Finger while having lunch. I think it helps that neither had sound. That could have been pretty gross.
25: A series of images in rapid succession so that the figures appear to move, apparently with sound, which I gather is a popular art form these days.
23: Okay, done. Yep, still disgusting.
26 is fucking awesome.
27 demonstrates that Ogged is the Buddha.
If I had stayed on for Phase 2 of our project to update a certain state's DMV to let you do online transactions, I would have coded their "Request A Customized License Plate" feature. From what I hear, compiling the database of disallowed words and phrases was a lot of fun.
27: Thats ok, ogged, they made them while having lunch.
Strangely, I laughed all the way through 2 Girls 1 Cup
Probably the government made this video as a kind of Milgram test, and your reaction qualifies you to work for the CIA's extraordinary rendition program, or head a program denying people benefits to which they are entitled, or act as a press spokesperson for the VP's office.
Lur, Jain, what's the difference?
I'm pretty sure Jains aren't allowed to use a bomb, Cala.
I read in Jain magazine that girls are just as likely as boys to want nuclear weapons.
The video linked in 9 is pretty damn funny.
That's why I always go Dark Side in Knights of the Old Republic.
I'm still not sure whether I'm glad that I've not seen 2girls1cup, and apparently, 1finger. Apparently I am. Glad.
I have now found the sfw description at wikipedia
I found that, too. Jiminy Cricket. 1) I don't understand what Ogged was laughing at. 2) While my natural curiosity is extremely powerful, I'm hesitating on looking up 2 girls 1 finger.
Apparently I am.
Imagine 400-foot high burning letters in the sky reading "YES, YOU SHOULD BE."
What I don't know won't hurt me, eh, Michael?
Speaking of hilarious videos, this is a hilarious video. (NSFW audio)
You're not Indian, Ogged? You mean that Mexican thing wasn't a joke?
46. i'd at least advise reading about it before looking for the video. the description is stomach-churning enough
I'm amazed by the entertainment value people find in being grossed out. Not the genuinely kinky people for whom this is porn, but all the people who don't get off on stuff like this or tubgirl but still enjoy passing it around. Then again, there's lots of stuff I don't understand.
It's not the being grossed out that makes it fascinating (at least not for me), but seeing what people are willing to do for cocaine.
That license plate's not real, right? I thought states were limited to 7 characters per plate.
To that end, I think I saw a Calif plate in our very own Castro which is PERFECT. Included was a black/blue S/M pride sticker.
As seen parked outside the Bar on Castro. Happy hour starts at 4pm, people! Tuesdays are $2 beer day! Lube optional!
52: Yes, I think exploring stuff at the extreme far end of the tail of the behavioral distribution gives people a feeling of comfort that their own peccadilloes are quite minor deviations from the norm. Some of them are wrong.
I still insist that that video has to be a complete fake.
people said that about goatse too, B.
Goatse is one person with kind of an extreme fetish that includes self-exposure.
Two girls is two women being massively and revoltingly degraded, ostensibly because it turns someone else on. I refuse to believe it's real.
You need to stay in more, B. There are lots of videos that are more or less like that (with slightly less barfing).
A lot can be done with peanut butter and chocolate. I haven't actually seen the video, but you know.
I saw Tubgirl once, and I am sorry that I did. I hope that I'll be able to forget it completely. JRoth's example gives me hope.
I know there are a lot of videos like that. They feed my hatred of men.
I've been very lucky, and have tame clicking habits. I've seen goatse once, but for just a moment, and haven't seen any of the other notorious grossouts.
It does reassure me a fair amount, having kids, that in a lot of internet time I've really hardly ever encountered much of anything sexual or otherwise disturbing without looking for it. (Okay, trying to find Little Mermaid coloring pages got to porny fanfic and images very quickly. Who knew?)
I know there are a lot of videos like that.
Then why do you think this one in particular is a fake?
I'm just convinced it's chocolate ice cream. Come on. Why do you want me to hate men even more than I already do?
I'm with B on this (based solely on verbal descriptions). Let's pretend it's a fake.
The process of closely watching and analyzing the video you'd have to do to decide if it's fake strikes me as more unpleasant than believing it's real. Bleah.
Ogged was trained in philosophy and all he cares about is truth. What an asshole.
I just refuse to think that anyone would agree to do that, for any reason whatsoever except as a hilariously revolting joke.
And if you think it's true *and* funny, then you are an evil human being, Ogged.
Medically, copraphagy is probably the riskiest kink of all.
I'm barfing on someone right now, B.
Seriously, the whole thing was so desperately trying to gross out that it was funny. Of course, about ten seconds after you watch it, you think "Wow, how badly must someone want drugs to do something like that? Pretty badly!" and it's sad. But there's no sense being a cup half-full kind of person.
If it's fake, you can enjoy it guilt-free.
It was the "desperately trying to gross us out" part that convinced me it's fake. Which I will continue to believe, thankyouverymuch.
As opposed to, trying to be sexy to fucked-up people, which I would have believed. But it just didn't have that vibe.
This is another reason I'm not voting for Hillary.
Hillary would have made a much more convincing grossout video.
You guys pretend to be joking, but we all know joking on the square when we see it.
Apparently the infamous SWAP.AVI has its own website at 4girlsfingerpaint.com.I am too timid to click on that link, which is surely NSFW. Can someone who either has more courage or less common sense report on if it's more gross-out or extremely-kinky-sex?
Giuliani would be President if it came down to grossout videos. Or maybe Duncan Hunter.
I don't know what you mean by "fake", bphd. The wikipedia entry on said video clip includes several links about it in the context of the Brazilian porn producer from whose œuvre it is drawn.
Maybe it's a fake food substance. I haven't seen the video so that's all I can say.
On second thoughts, it doesn't matter if the video is fake or not. The fact that it's as popular as it is--to the point where someone even had a license plate done up--is plenty of evidence that men should be lined up and shot.
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Extremely gross.
Extremely sad.
I believe it is real. Degrading and real. Only drugs and laxatives could produce this.
Yuck.
Thanks, Ogged.
79 - Here you go: Gawker watches and describes all of the videos of this genre so you don't have to, including the fingerpaint one.
Can someone who either has more courage or less common sense report on if it's more gross-out or extremely-kinky-sex?
Very much the former.
Ogged keeps saying the girls did this for drugs. Do we know that?
Drugs or money are the two big possibilities, no? And it's probably cheaper to pay for this sort of thing in drugs to someone with a jones than in money to someone simply trying to make a buck.
Note that most of these videos seem to be made in Brazil, where there are a lot of very poor people.
made in Brazil, where there are a lot of very poor people
And at least one very disturbed one.
87: that's plausible. We don't really know.... and I don't really want to know any more about these. Personally I kind of wish the entire thing was a put on, but I guess I'm more cynical than B.
I still say it's fake.
I also say we desperately, desperately need a new post about something that won't make me hate you all even more than I already do.
I could bring back the "Look, a Kitten" kitten, but that's been done.
92: I like to think that the people making this stuff are laughing the whole time about how many people they'll suck in....
Hm.
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I'm amazed by the entertainment value people find in being grossed out. Not the genuinely kinky people for whom this is porn, but all the people who don't get off on stuff like this or tubgirl but still enjoy passing it around. Then again, there's lots of stuff I don't understand.
Later:
I know there are a lot of videos like that. They feed my hatred of men.
Two girls is two women being massively and revoltingly degraded, ostensibly because it turns someone else on.
Without having seen these things, that's what I figured, and I mostly want not to lose respect for people who pass it around and find it amusing.
91: Oh, regardless of whether the gross-out part is faked, it's still real live fucked-up exploited naked women *pretending* to do the gross out stuff. I'm not that naive.
But really, what's the interest in finding out what people will do for an appropriate inducement? The answer, if by 'people' you mean 'some person', is 'pretty much anything you can think of.' Grossout videos like this don't tell you anything interesting about what people will do, maybe about what fucked up people will enjoy seeing other people do.
93: I get the kitten with every comment. It's not enough in this case.
99: Have you tried not reading Unfogged threads? Works for me.
Again with the moralizing. Jeepers, y'all. Isn't curiosity a pretty basic human instinct? Being fascinated by the weird/gross/disturbing is about as natural as it gets. If someone gets off on 2 Girls 1 Cup, that's one thing, or if someone doesn't think about the exploitation behind, that's one thing again, but just wanting to see it and maybe talk about it is fine.
98: LB, I don't know why you bother intellectualizing it.
I get the kitten with every comment.
Do you really get the kitten? I didn't realize people were still seeing that.
What's the name of that guy in the Republic? The one who yells at his eyes for wanting to look at the corpses?
Ogged, show an equal number of videos deeply degrading to men (in a sexual way), and I'll call it equal opportunity grotesquery.
Like I say, parsimon, it's not about getting off on it; the people I know who have watched 2 Girls 1 Cup are people who also watch videos of people being shot and run over by cars, and guys sticking firecrackers up their own asses. Curiosity!
Why does B get a kitten? I don't get a kitten. I want a kitten.
If someone gets off on 2 Girls 1 Cup, that's one thing, or if someone doesn't think about the exploitation behind, that's one thing again, but just wanting to see it and maybe talk about it is fine.
Didn't you refuse to view GB's zit popping vids because you "have your limits" or something?
For you n00bs: The kitten is a page we created when we were having a problem with the server. It used to throw an ugly HTML 500 error that scared people and made them think they broke the site. I overrode it with a cute kitten to reassure people.
Ogged, show an equal number of videos deeply degrading to men (in a sexual way), and I'll call it equal opportunity grotesquery.
I'm guessing a start would be to search "gay"+ your chosen form of degradation.
OMG, I still can't get one of those zit popping videos out of my mind. *shudder*
if someone doesn't think about the exploitation behind, that's one thing again
Seriously, you think this shit is getting passed around by people who are thinking about the exploitation?
Should we see and talk about child pornography as well?
Seriously, you think this shit is getting passed around by people who are thinking about the exploitation?
Not generally, no. But I don't think they're getting off on it either; I think it would be just as "popular" if it were two guys. I blame Brazil.
I don't think 2 girls 1 cup would have taken off the way it did without the genre of 2G1C response videos on YouTube. I think that's what fueled people's interest. It's not that they thought the video was awesome or wanted to share it -- it's that they wanted to tape their friend's reaction and achieve YouTube Fame or they wanted to compare their reactions/their friends reactions to what they saw online.
Ah, yes, Leontius:
Leontius the son of Aglaion was going up from the Piraeus near the North Wall on the outside; he noticed corpses lying by the place of the public executioner; and simultaneously he desired to see and in turn was disgusted and turned himself away, and for a while he fought and covered his face, but finally overcome by his desire, he dragged open his eyes, ran towards the corpses, and said, "Here they are for you, O miserable wretches, get your fill of the beautiful sight!" (439e7-440a3)
115: Huh. I was going to say "I doubt that," but then, Jackass. (NB: I've never seen Jackass.)
And now, I suggest we talk about a man degrading himself. Namely: STEPHEN BALDWIN on Celebrity Apprentice.
LESS THAN 10 MINUTES, PEOPLE!
I blame ogged for the fact that I walked into our study and found my wife viewing Brazilian scat fetish porn.
2 Girls 1 Cup is probably fake.
In his declaration, Fiorito explained that had he known that selling his films in the U.S. was illegal, "I would have stopped because the money is not the main reason that I make these films." He then added, "I have already made fetish movies with scat/feces using chocolate instead of feces. Many actors make scat films but they don't agree to eat feces."
SWAP.avi is obviously the real deal.
How in the world am I being blamed for this? Was I even the one who brought it up?
STEPHEN BALDWIN
Did you see this past Sunday's Simpsons, Becks? "We have Alec Baldwin. They have Stephen Baldwin. They might as well not even have a Baldwin."
124 - Awesome.
I'm off to watch Stevie B at the gym. Back with my review later!
I'd have weighed in earlier but I was at a meeting learning about the different middle school options for Keegan next year.
'Cause I'm wholesome and respectable.
Again. I want to see videos of guys shooting firecrackers out of their asses, but more, in a sexually degrading and humiliating way, not just a funny ha-ha way, referenced here as often as 2girls or tubgirl is.
Damn. If only this had come up two weeks ago. We could have had Labs and Apo make some movies at UnfoggeDCon.
The original, most referenced is, of course, goatse, which is of a middle-aged guy. As for your request, you'll have to get off dialup first.
Alas, if I didn't do a lot of commenting from work, I'd regale parsimon with pics of horrific schlong piercings.
"I don't think 2 girls 1 cup would have taken off the way it did without the genre of 2G1C response videos on YouTube. I think that's what fueled people's interest."
Yes, it is definitely not the intellectual/liberal bloggers spreading this shit around, Thanks B2God.
Ogged:
Look what you have done to Fleur. So sweet. So innocent. Now you have her watching filth!??!!?
Have you no shame??
BR just asked what was going on with Unfogged. I couldnt even answer her!
Zip popping is over the line, man.
Fleur, whatever you do, don't tell them about the erotic overtones that zit popping takes on in our household!
It's not the being grossed out that makes it fascinating (at least not for me), but seeing what people are willing to do for cocaine.
This is formally equivalent to "I don't hate Hillary because she's a woman, I just disagree with her policies."
I wonder how much cocaine it would take to get ogged to vote for Hillary.
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IF we ever video tape that, I will make sure to send a link to Ogged. Before UTube.
For you n00bs: The kitten is a page we created when we were having a problem with the server. It used to throw an ugly HTML 500 error that scared people and made them think they broke the site. I overrode it with a cute kitten to reassure people.
After we pick ourselves up off the floor and quit shaking, those of us with a terror of kittens ultimately understood that despite its horrible effects on ourselves, Unfogged's decision was really well-intended. In this upside down world we live in ailurophobes must be longsuffering.
If women voting in the Democratic primaries continue behaving irrationally, the chances that I'll vote for Hillary are high indeed.
Yes, it is definitely not the intellectual/liberal bloggers spreading this shit chocolate around, thanks B2 God.
but more, in a sexually degrading and humiliating way, not just a funny ha-ha way
There's plenty of gay porn where you can see stuff like that. Also plenty of bondage and domination stuff. If you really want to see it, it's easy to come by.
Oh, you just want to see it referenced. Sorry. There's Mr. Hands.
"I would have stopped because the money is not the main reason that I make these films."
Art, man. Mediocrities and Philistines can't understand it.
So, what, an eight-ball? Less?
Bad ticker, man; can't even take Sudafed.
I'm sure glad that I'm not the kind of person who occupies myself with this kind of thing.
/Republican Congressman
If Hillary is the Democratic candidate, even men's pronification of daily life won't keep me from voting for her.
Bad ticker, man; can't even take Sudafed.
Okay, heroin then.
Sadly, it doesn't work that way. Stop trying to kill me, Teo.
Oh, you just want to see it referenced. Sorry. There's Mr. Hands.
Yeah, I want to see Unfogged turn to equal opportunity sexual humiliation and mockery when it's bored. Then I could just decide you're all nuts.
Look, I'm sorry this is making me so angry. I should probably go eat something, not a bad idea.
Parsimon, you'll feel better if you watch this.
equal opportunity sexual humiliation and mockery
Hovertext.
I wasn't able to distract you all with the video in 47, so I'll try again. This one's even about politics!
Stop trying to kill me, Teo.
Jews in the Southwest attract the babes by hanging Shia scalps from their spears.
Ogged, I don't trust you. And I see that link goes to whatever it was that you were obsessed with for a while. I'm just going to eat.
I want to see videos of guys shooting firecrackers out of their asses
That couldn't possibly be as thrilling as it sounds.
mrh, that's pretty good. But you can't go by me. I thought superbingo was funny, too.
Boy did Celebrity Apprentice suck.
Also, I think I'm sick again. Damn.
159:
P., it's not supposed to be thrilling.
I don't know if "thrilling" is the right word. But it is amusing as all hell.
I think it would be just as "popular" if it were two guys
Only, see, it isn't. And as Apo's said, surely there is stuff that's just as gross that *is* two guys. And yet, for some reason, it isn't what people pass around on teh internets.
Goatse, guys sticking firecrackers up their asses, not quite the same thing. Exposing your own idiocy is different than paying/bribing someone else to fake a form of idiocy they don't actually enjoy.
123: You get blamed because you try to defend this stuff and pretend that it's not evidence of deep cultural misogyny, that's why. Duh.
Also, I still get the kitten by special arrangement with Mr. w-lfs-n.
In short, I whined and he said "okay, here's your damn kitten, now shut up."
it isn't what people pass around on teh internets.
The internets is where I see it.
two guys engaging in some idiocy that they may or may not enjoy.
I suspect those guys enjoy that quite a bit.
What is this kitten being discussed in the shock websites thread? Is it the one-eyed kitten, or the two-faced kitten, or what?
It is the Unfogged Happy Fun Kitten, that is not deformed in any way. Becks links to it somewhere in the thread, and explains its function.
I thought it was unlikely that you would set up an error message page containing a deformed creature. But I've never seen this alleged kitten.
I would have voted for a two-headed kitten, but nobody asked me.
If you guys don't cut it out, I'll post on my Flickr page all the pictures of my cat's litter -- 7 or 8 kittens -- spilling all over one another and the bed. Fun times. But you'll be cutting it out, so no danger.
'night.
Nobody asked me, because I would have voted for a two-headed kitten.
Indeed.
Two-headed kittens are quite likable.
I don't really have a side in this fight but it's worth noting that Unfogged is the site where a front-page post linked to multiple videos of guys being bribed or dared to get tazed in the nadgers. That doesn't make it a good thing for anybody to crap or fake-crap on anybody else, or whatever's happening in the videos (on which I haven't clicked, thanks, still remember that lesson) I'm just noting it for historical purposes.
That said, there is an obvious difference I've observed in what humiliation videos I've seen (I can't speak to these, obviously): humiliation videos featuring men tend to be about bravado and humiliation videos featuring women tend to be about exploitation. Our culture affords men the ability to debase themselves for a laugh and in a weird way increase their dignity by doing so; our culture treats the dignity of women as something more like a finite resource that, once spent, is gone forever. I know women who could star in an episode of Jackass and come out of it with the same fist-pumping glory of a Johnny Knoxville and I know men who could not so I don't believe there's a bright line between genders but I do think a generalized attitude can be detected in these videos about gender roles.
That may not actually make much sense once I've had more caffeine, so meh.
Or, on second thought, it may just be super-obvious. Hooray.
I for one am having trouble figuring out why anybody would be offended by any of these videos.
Incidentally, I have posted links to plenty of really, really foul things featuring only dudes so go me!
I also didn't make it past the first 6 or so seconds of 2girls1cup, so talk a big game, me!
why anybody would be offended by any of these videos
It's like a hobby for some people, Tweety.
So cuteoverload seems to have gotten worse in the last 6 months or so. Where else do people go for kittens and puppies? I prefer stills to video, myself.
Anything is OK with me except those horrible, terrifying kittens!
