Re: Two amusing emails

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in my country there is problem
and that problem is comments
it take very very long
because comment thread is big


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:48 PM
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1 is genius.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:48 PM
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Rosie O'Donnell? I don't get it.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:48 PM
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Teo, I'm surprised at you; 1 actually struck me as kind of mean.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:49 PM
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Goddamned, Standpipe.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:50 PM
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3: Rosie has a blog that is written in pseudo-haiku.

I thought 1 was kinda mean, too.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:51 PM
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You people are terrible. Let me clarify that 5 is meant as pure compliment toward SpBp.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:52 PM
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Lab's post seemed mean, too.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:53 PM
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Damn. I've probably used up my quota of touchiness for the day, and have lost credibility for pointing out that the post itself is kind of mean.

Maybe I should actually go back to getting these cites filled in.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:54 PM
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Wait, are there actually people who believe that read *isn't* borating us? I took that as beyond dispute. Could be wrong, though.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:55 PM
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Hah. Helpy-chalk pwned.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:55 PM
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In my defense, 1 is hilarious.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:57 PM
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I'm pro-Labs and pro-cruelty in general, but this post isn't doing it for me.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 12:58 PM
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11 is mean.

The post is unproductive at best.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:00 PM
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LABS IS CHIMPEACHED
FOR MEANNESS
IN MY COUNTRY


Posted by: OPINIONATED READ | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:00 PM
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The idea that 1 needs defense is mean. To read.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:01 PM
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I thought the post was hilarious.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:03 PM
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Throw comments down the well.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:03 PM
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The post is, of course, mean. 1 is somewhat mean as well, but it's such a perfect parody of the original song that I thought it brilliant.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:03 PM
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I guess we can't tease each other for humorous effect anymore, because we all hate each other.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:04 PM
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Unbelievably mean. Funny, but mean.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:05 PM
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17: Whew. Having said that it seemed kind of mean, I've been wondering if I dare admit that I kind of, you know, approve.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:05 PM
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After ten more seconds' reflection, the funny outweighs the mean.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:05 PM
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I'm pro-teasing each other, but I thought the new rule was to refrain from teasing people who don't like being teased.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:06 PM
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we can't tease each other for humorous effect anymore

I've been fighting that tendency for some time now. All is lost.

Also, read is totally Holbo.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:06 PM
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1 is hilarious. Grr! Asshole face! Booga-booga!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:06 PM
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Great, now I'm the mean one. This is only going to make Ogged post more about humiliating handicapped kids.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:06 PM
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My new strategy of not reading Unfogged is looking better all the time.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:06 PM
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I thought the new rule was to refrain from teasing people who seems oddly at home with recent internet slang yet profess not to understand mystical Western ways.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:08 PM
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Okay, if Cala's on board, then I am unreservedly pro-this post. Cala's always much nicer than I am.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:09 PM
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Spambots need to be teased, lest they get all tense and overserious.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:09 PM
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is read ont he record as not liking being teased? i missed there. there needs to be a newsletter or something.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:09 PM
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The rule in 29 was neither seconded nor properly passed to a vote.


Posted by: Robert's Rules | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:10 PM
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Several lurkers have e-mailed me wondering why read even merits a whole separate post. "Good question," I told them. "We know," they e-mailed back. "Also, we think you are very handsome." "Why, thank you," I replied.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:10 PM
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If I may continue in my self-serving vein: you all who didn't think 1 was funny, are you stressing the second syllable of "comments"? Because this is important.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:11 PM
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34 IS A GODDAMN LIE


Posted by: OPINIONATED LURKERS | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:11 PM
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32: Read is on the record of constantly saying that she doesn't understand why people have to be so argumentative and judgmental all the time, and that X is just her opinion. This suggests to me that teasing is Right Out.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:11 PM
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29: So teasing read woud be like violating the Analogy Ban?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:11 PM
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OPINIONATED METACOMMENT is cracking me up.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:12 PM
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On what planet is unfogged about making everybody feel comfortable, anyhow?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:12 PM
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34 is funnier than both the post and 1.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:13 PM
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EVERYBODY MUST FEEL ME


Posted by: OPINIONATED COMFORTABLE | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:14 PM
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40: On the planet where praise for the Pats is greeted and even seconded.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:14 PM
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Are you people saying that the mere idea of a handsome Afro-Canadian is risible?!?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:14 PM
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Read is on the record of constantly saying that she doesn't understand why people have to be so argumentative and judgmental all the time

Of course she doesn't understand. She hasn't slept with us yet.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:14 PM
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wow, the post about me?
i'm like very much amused and even flattered
though i never watched borat and rosie o'donnell
coz i suspected i would get upset
and now like rather strongly object being compared to them


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:14 PM
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why DO people have to be so argumentative? ogged told me today that my rooting for the Packers is tantamount to mutilation of foreign children. read might be on to something.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:15 PM
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Correlation not causation!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:16 PM
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48 to whatever.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:16 PM
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I move that we turn this thread into an earnest, 700 comments-long discussion on propriety, polite yet open discourse, and the Future of the Blog.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:17 PM
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50: racist.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:17 PM
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47: Not tantamount - that would be an analogy and therefore is forbidden. Ogged was arguing for a direct cause-effect relationsihip.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:18 PM
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That would at least help me get more work done on my dissertation.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:18 PM
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50: But first, everyone should pick a new pseudonym.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:18 PM
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50: I move that Stras be banned.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:19 PM
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If read is pretending to be a Mongol educated in Russian, she's doing a good job of it. Knowing internet slang isn't unusual because slang is picked up quickly, even by people who aren't fluent. Slang isn't taught in textbooks, but it isn't hard to learn.

Her commenting style is unique, unquestionably, as are her comments themselves.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:19 PM
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on any given day, h ow many people commenting here are neglecting a dissertation? i am always in that number. I guess I am occasionally neglecting teaching prep. But not often. And occasionally neglecting my daughter.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:20 PM
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The funniest thing about 34 is that I have sent an e-mail asking about read, though not that question particularly.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:20 PM
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56 was posted from read's IP.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:20 PM
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Asshole face!
Is this another style you're trying with the goatee?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:20 PM
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Are you people saying that the mere idea of a handsome Afro-Canadian is risible?!?

A handsome Afro-Canadian metalhead? Hell yes it's risible.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:20 PM
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47: People who condone the mutilation of children shouldn't be so fucking touchy.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:20 PM
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I'm neglecting my responsibilities. And sometimes, sad to say, my bladder.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:20 PM
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56 was posted from read's IP.

My god - Emerson was a persona invented by read all along!


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:21 PM
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B, women who neglect their bladders sometimes explode like Tycho. Take care of yourself.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:21 PM
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Can we talk about Juno?


Posted by: asl | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:21 PM
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Can we talk about Juno?


Posted by: asl | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:21 PM
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I too am neglecting Sybil's daughter.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:21 PM
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61: I thought that Slack was a punk, not a metalhead.

If 59 is true, then I am so very fucking impressed.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:22 PM
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65: Luckily, sooner or later there's always a boring sports post or something.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:23 PM
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I would prefer that all you argumentative and judgmental slackers neglect my daughter.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:24 PM
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46 is funnier than anything else, period.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:25 PM
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Sybil, why don't you email me your cell #?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:25 PM
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56- Who do you like more- read or Randy Moss?


Posted by: asl | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:27 PM
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59, sadly, is not true, but man, that would be funny.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:27 PM
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B, you were so supportive when we met last year (around this time, actually); you can't start hectoring now!


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:27 PM
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Am I incredibly naive for thinking that most people on the internet are who they say they are?

Most of the people I meet on the internet say things like "I'm a middle aged college professor" and when you meet them in person, lo and behold they are.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:27 PM
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Eh, I was more wowed when it was revealed that Labs is merely one of slolernr's personae. And you will all agree that Labs has fallen off since he was begun; sockpuppeting is sadly a passing fancy.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:27 PM
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I can faux hector!

75: Shit. I was all set to crown Emerson the king of Unfogged.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:28 PM
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78: They're personae? I thought it was more a kind of separated-at-birth thing.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:29 PM
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Most of the people I meet on the internet say things like "I'm a middle aged college professor" and when you meet them in person, lo and behold they are.

This has been my experience as well.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:30 PM
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77: yes.


Posted by: Mary Roth | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:30 PM
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And you will all agree that Labs has fallen off since he was begun

The question is, has Labs fallen off more or less than everyone else? I vote more.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:30 PM
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They would have been separated at birth, but sadly, they were joined at the cloaca.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:30 PM
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50: racist.

Screw you, Tweety. Some of my best friends are earnest, 700 comments-long discussions on propriety, polite yet open discourse, and the Future of the Blog.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:31 PM
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I suspect 82 was supposed to be by Mary Rosh.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:31 PM
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I don't know why 85 is so funny, but it is.

God, we really are bad people, aren't we?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:32 PM
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77: The ones you meet, yes. I may be rather cynical, but my internet travels have seen one lonely guy pretending to be in the 101st so women would chat with the nice soldier boy; lots of guys pretending to be girls; and one guy pretending to be a budding rock star from Cambodia named Phnom Penh.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:32 PM
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67 to 66.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:33 PM
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When I was 14 I met a girl on the internet who claimed to be 14. At one point I asked her how I could be sure she was who she said she was. Then she asked me the same thing. We didn't have much in common anyway.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:34 PM
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88: Really!! Do tell, Cala. No wonder Shivbunny is so suspicious of your internet time.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:34 PM
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I like being argumentative and I like argumentative people. I don't like being called gross. Just for the record. This place usually manages to be argumentative without taking it personally or being insulting which I why I love all you wonderful, wonderful, warm, intelligent, fiendishly sexy (christ, especially that DS, whom I tracked down and spied on whilst in Canada - it's a small country you know), simply marvellous people cunts.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:35 PM
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Asilon, that's just gross.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:35 PM
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I've only ever met 2 people I 'knew' from the internet. Which I suspect puts me behind the curve.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:36 PM
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90: Yeah, the experience of adolescents on the internet must be completely different. I'm still not sure how I'm going to handle it when Joey and Caroline are older.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:36 PM
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Cala! Stay out of the waterfront dive blogs!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:36 PM
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91: There's not all that much to tell, from my days of Internet games. But I tend to suspect most of the internet is lies. There's eventually a slip somewhere.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:37 PM
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93 - right, that's it ....


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:38 PM
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Rob, if you're like me, the people you've met from the internet are people who go to parties to meet other people, ie, they enter contexts where it would be hard to maintain an internet fiction. This is not a good sample.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:38 PM
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95: I'm thinking it might not be as tough as people say it is. PK knows that on the blog he's "PK," and he knows that this is because, while most people in the world are wonderfully awesome, every once in a blue moon someone is crazy or mean, and you know, just for the sake of having some privacy, it's better not to let the crazy/mean people know who you are online. This seems not to have freaked him out, although it has resulted in the adorable response of his using the initials PK and PG ("Pseudonymous Gr/unty") on his desktop computer game. (Which is, it probably doesn't need to be said, not actually online.)


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:38 PM
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Hear hear 90/95. I at least am comforted by the knowledge that by the time I have teenaged children they will have some technology even more instantly gratifying, socially retarding, pornocopiatic and alien to my experience of adolescence than the web. So I needn't worry now.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:39 PM
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My teenage Fargo niece corresponded in French with an age-unknown-to-me guy in Brazil for awhile. I imagine that he was dreaming of an exotic French-speaking Scarlett Johannson Fargo blonde.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:39 PM
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Most of the people I meet on the internet say things like "I'm a middle aged college professor" and when you meet them in person, lo and behold they are. we continue the ruse.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:39 PM
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Thing is, most people you meet on the internet claim to be pretty ordinary mundane folks, and in fact they are. Being from outside the US is perfectly mundane. I believe ogged when he says he is a lur living on the west coast who likes to swim, even if I had to look up what lur was.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:39 PM
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99: I've met people from the internet for sex. And Rob's right. They are pretty much exactly who they say they are.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:39 PM
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For the record, I'm a svelte, 19 year old contortionist. I hired that guy who showed up at UDC so I wouldn't make you all feel nervous.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:40 PM
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And how big is your sample, B?

/Church Lady


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:40 PM
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95: Not adolescents, necessarily. More gamers. Bloggers I suspect are better in this regard, or at least better about having consistent personae. But I'd recommend keeping the computer somewhere public or at least keep tabs on where they go. It's not dangerous, most of the time, but it can be confusing.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:41 PM
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107: Bigger than yours, J.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:42 PM
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I'm only pretending to be a barely-employed loser burned out in his twenties on the internet. In reality, I am a multi-billionaire oil tycoon, and I spend all my space time swimming in a giant pit of money and naked people.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:42 PM
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1 is fantastic.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:42 PM
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109: The quantity comparison is uninteresting. Inquiring minds want to know who's in the overlap.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:43 PM
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The only way you could like 1 is if you hate the Mongols, ogged.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:44 PM
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I'm a middle-aged college professor.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:45 PM
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Some of my best friends have Mongol friends.


Posted by: asl | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:45 PM
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I would hope so. My brand would be damaged if it were revealed that I have a life.

Me, Mr. Anti-Life.

Are pro-life people real party animals? On Friday nights to they say out to the bars to get a life?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:46 PM
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111: For fuck's sake, would you just give us all a list of who we can and cannot be mean to, already?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:46 PM
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How many boards would the mongols hoard, if the mongol hordes got bored?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:46 PM
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Is read really a Mongol? I thought she was Japanese. Am I the only one?


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:46 PM
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110: What's it like being a lawyer in the mayor's office and the world's strongest millionaire?


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:46 PM
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118 is the question I intend to address in my dissertation, or rather, my dissertation will be an inquiry into the transcendental conditions of boredom and mongols.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:47 PM
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I have a tail.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:47 PM
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111: For fuck's sake, would you just give us all a list of who we can and cannot be mean to, already?

One can be mean to: women + the posters at the Corner + {ogged} - {read}
One cannot be mean to: everyone else.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:48 PM
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A handsome Afro-Canadian metalhead? Hell yes it's risible.

He might be a little hard to track down these days, but I can introduce you to one. Maybe two.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:49 PM
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I'd rather be introduced to a cute Afro-Canadian indie chyk, to be honest.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:49 PM
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That's actually a lot easier.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:50 PM
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Perfect!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:51 PM
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Don't fight natural selection. Be mean to everybody and thin the herd.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:52 PM
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I've never really understood the idea of maintaining a fictional character on the internet or whatever. Seems like way to much work. I suspect many (most?) amplify parts of their personality but that's about it.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:52 PM
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118 is just lovely.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:54 PM
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118 comes from Calvin and Hobbes.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:54 PM
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127: Pretty much all you'd have to do is move to Toronto or (better) Montreal. I'm not saying you'll be tripping over cute Afro-Canadian (particularly Caribbean) ide chyk's, but there isn't exactly a shortage, especially considering the honkitude of the indie scene in general.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:54 PM
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What about those of us who are innately talented at meanness? Surely we should get special privileges.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:54 PM
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I don't want an integrated development environment chyk.

Also, soup, the plural of "chyk" is "chyx", not (shudder) "chyk's".

"chyk" and "chyx" are, of course, the preferred terms.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:56 PM
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131: I will find other reasons to love you, ben w-lfs-n.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:56 PM
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133: why should you be rewarded for doing what comes easy anyway?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:57 PM
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134: You have no idea how hard it was to hit send on "chyk's" but I did it just for you.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:59 PM
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integrated development environment chyk.

This part I don't follow, though.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 1:59 PM
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136: I ask for no reward. I ask only that my natural inclinations be allowed to exert themselves, and my natural talent not be wasted.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:00 PM
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Montreal is ground zero for Afro-Canadian hotties.

Does anyone remember the movie Comment faire l'amour avec un nègre sans se fatiguer?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:02 PM
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138: you referred to "ide chyk's".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:02 PM
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so it's from each, according to their ability; to each, according to their need, then Bitch?


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:02 PM
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141: Oh, missed that. Multitasking. Damn. Wasted a perfectly good typo tying it up with a grammar-bomb then. bah.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:03 PM
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140: Toronto isn't a bad choice either though ... there's a pretty good showing.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:04 PM
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On the contrary, soup: when the from each/to each regime has been instituted, no one will have any cause to bitch at all.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:04 PM
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145: since when has bitching needed a cause? Bitching is a primum movem.


Posted by: ed bowlinger | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:08 PM
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I can't decide if this is too easy, or too much fun.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:11 PM
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145: Good point! But until then, my ability is bitching. I offer it in the spirit of comradeship, free to all.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:12 PM
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How does B know I'm a punk and not a metalhead? That's eerie.

125: I know a few, ben. I promise to tell them only the very nicest things about you that come to mind.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:19 PM
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i think i really don't like fontana labs for his "indeed"
i'm slowly getting offended
it's a cultural thing, but i'd prefer people to not mention my nation without much need
we are simple people and prefer to not say out loud in idle conversation the names of people who we admire, things which we revere out of superstition, see i'm backwards like that
for example, to make it understandable for you George Washington would be called President Wa, Dostoevsky - the great Do, etc not their full names
Mongol means true center btw, and if you want to address me please address me, not Mongols in general, coz i don't want to call upon us a bad luck


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:20 PM
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read you have a lot of rules. It is confusing.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:21 PM
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She's telling us how to avoid bad luck. I don't want bad luck. I think we should listen.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:23 PM
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i just said address please me, not Mongols in general, i may be rude and whatever
then i should bear my faults not my people, right?
that's not a rule
just as polite as possible request, thanks


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:26 PM
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we are simple people and prefer to not say out loud in idle conversation the names of people who we admire

We do the same thing. Jennifer Lopez is J-Lo, etc.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:28 PM
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139: One law for the bitch and everyone else is tyranny!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:28 PM
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149: I'm stalking you.

i'm slowly getting offended
it's a cultural thing, but i'd prefer people to not mention my nation without much need

Well, it's a cultural thing for me, maybe, but I'd prefer that people not use "I'm getting offended" to insulate themselves from criticism, especially if they are actually hoping to participate in a group where having one's ideas criticized is an awfully big part of how things are done, and especially if they reserve to themselves the right to criticize others while hiding behind "it's only my opinion."

Seriously, a certain initial period of reassuring someone "yes, it's okay for you to join us" is all well and good. But after a while, having to continually offer that reassurance becomes tiresome.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:28 PM
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DON'T TALK TO ME
OR TALK ABOUT ME
OR MENTION MY NAME
THAT SHIT PISSES ME OFF
SO, HOW'S STUFF?


Posted by: OPINIONATED MONGOLS | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:32 PM
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address please me, not Mongols in general

Who was addressing Mongols in general? And how is it okay for you to make generalizations about western morality (or whatever it is), but not okay for someone to make generalizations back? Especially if the latter generalizations are meant in a spirit of camaraderie and teasing, rather than as a serious aspersion?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:33 PM
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read you should get somebody else to yell at people who are mean to you. It's no fun to do it yourself.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:35 PM
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if you revere J-Lo, that's Ok you know
i do not need anyone's reassurance, thank you
may i say my honest opinions once without being judged
why it is always needed to shout f word or whatever to participate in the threads
can't you people just read and think this person thinks this way this is different from me, us, whoever it may be interesting or boring and just let it go
and do not feel the strong urge to crash someone with your authority and knowledge and wits and whatever


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:37 PM
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I have a serious question. Is "read" pronounced as if her pseudonym is in the present tense or the past tense? Or is it something like "ray-ad"?


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:41 PM
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Because this isn't that kind of forum.

And because we're vulgar westerners who like shouting curse words.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:42 PM
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can't you people just

Racist.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:42 PM
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What??? Have you actually read any other comment threads? Most people are only here to crush others with their authority and knowledge and wits and whatever.

I objected to your breastfeeding advice because it was factually incorrect.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:42 PM
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mrh - I say "reed" in my head.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:43 PM
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why it is always needed to shout f word or whatever to participate in the threads

Motherfuckin' right.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:44 PM
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Fortunately, 160 is an example of spurious animadversion rather than a serious aspersion.


Posted by: ixnaythemetier | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:46 PM
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Most people are only here to crush others with their authority and knowledge and wits and whatever.

Heh.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:52 PM
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you all who didn't think 1 was funny, are you stressing the second syllable of "comments"? Because this is important.

Oh, Standpipe, I've missed you so.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 2:52 PM
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140: Racist.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:18 PM
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OT except as it relates to 51, 85, 163, and 170: can you imagine if we had a rule that required unique comments?


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:22 PM
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Wait, are there actually people who believe that read *isn't* borating us? I took that as beyond dispute. Could be wrong, though.

I'm curious about this, as well. I don't believe "read" is f'reals either. Does anyone?


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:24 PM
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I think read is real. I'm not suspicious by nature.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:26 PM
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I'd rather be introduced to a cute Afro-Canadian indie chyk, to be honest.

Ben, I think you may be looking for something like this, but with the sexes reversed.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:29 PM
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171: Mr. Marvey I can't begin to tell you how happy that link makes me today.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:29 PM
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I thought read was fake until she started posting translations. Seems awfully earnest for borat.


Posted by: destroyer | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:30 PM
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172: Er, me. For my sins. I'd assumed that there was a level of playfulness in read's style, but not that she was, say, a white American marketing associate.

I usually assume that most people on the not-only-about-the-sex sections of the internet are sorta-kinda who they say they are, if only because faking plausibly over a protracted period is difficult. That is, it wouldn't be impossible if read were someone who'd spent a lot of time in central Asia but was not herself actually from there--at one point I could probably have faked up a posting identity as maybe a Chinese research assistant in the US, just because I'd spent a lot of time speaking English with Chinese scientists who wanted to come to the US.

But it's not at all implausible that someone could write in an internet-slang-plus-stilted-English manner. Come on, ESL-teachers of Unfogged, help me out here!

Perhaps Emerson and I are both naive because we're from the provinces, though.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:33 PM
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I assume read is who she says she is; I wouldn't have called the post mean if I didn't. I don't have much knowledge of anything to base this on, but her persona is consistent, and makes sense with what she says about herself.

Read- I do agree that you're unnecessarily touchy about a bunch of stuff, but this sort of post would make anyone touchy.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:36 PM
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What Read has said about Mongolia has struck me as about right. For example, she seems to be transliterating contemporary Mongol or Russian names of historical figures rather than using the forms in Western scholarship. The Russian readers here seem convinced that she knows Russian, which is normal for an educated Mongol. Her Mongol CDs have been interesting.

As for her way of commenting in English, it is indeed quirky and sometimes very frank and sometimes apologetic. Likewise many of her attitudes are distant from ours, but that's what you might expect.

So anyway, I say not Borat. Anyone trying to sucker me would pretend to obviously be a Mongol, of course, but Borat or not, I've found read very interesting.

Raed, to you I would say that we insult each other here frequently up to a certain point, and then back off. A game we play. And in general small rebukes don't mean that people are going to stay mad at you.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:37 PM
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I'm naughty by nature, and I think read is on some feel good thug shit.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:38 PM
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well, apprantly there are a lot of read comments i haven't read. which isn't surprising, really.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:41 PM
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I believe that read's for real and that questionable content sucks balls.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:41 PM
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Can we just agree that if read is not who she says she is then she's a great work of performance art? That's a whole LOT of effort to go to just to fool a bunch of over-educated, neurotic members of the Western bourgeoisie.

Besides, without a few surly people to focus the crabbiness on, the Unfoggetariat would turn on itself, bloodbath, horror, etc.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:42 PM
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questionable content sucks balls

Shows what you know.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:43 PM
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I agree with... w-lfs-n?!

What kind of a topsy turvy world is this? Life has lost it's meaning!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:44 PM
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I don't know if read is real. I suspect so. But I find the dynamic of 'it is not good karma to laugh at the President' and the very earnest 'in America, our Western ways permit this' responses alternately hilarious and annoying.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:44 PM
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sucks balls.

why so vulgar?
not necessary to agree with me
but no need to
be
mean


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:46 PM
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133: But, my dear, you have honed your natural talent; don't dismiss the admirable effort you've put into it.

I was often accused of being mean on a CIS forum many a year ago. My favourite pronouncement: "You take what people say and quote it back to them! That isn't fair, using what people said..." [I also apparently hated men, women, fluffy bunnies, amateur chefs and the soi-disant kewl. My bad.]

But now, I am working up the energy to be a curmudgeonne again so genial and laid back and kind to kittens that I make my real self mean people sick.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:51 PM
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We should recognize that someone from a small poor country might not only be very smart, but also very quirky and funny, and at the same time still have serious attitudes about things which are far different than ours.

Mongolia has been socialist for decades, and in socialist countries families are less totally dependent on the breadwinner. Furthermore, families are less likely to plan to help their children get ahead in the world, since education is subsidized and upward mobility is also generally less.

This is with regard to read's attitudes about insurance, which seems like gambling a chunk of a family's scarce resources on the possibility that the breadwinner will die young. (We could regard this as an opportunity to see what America looks like to outsiders).


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:51 PM
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I also say read is real, suspicious mean people.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:52 PM
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I'm sure I've mentioned before making people cry over the internet. It's awesome.

My absolute meanest moment on the internet I probably can never reveal; it was not something to be proud of. Boy, I did a great job, though.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:53 PM
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But I find the dynamic of 'it is not good karma to laugh at the President' and the very earnest 'in America, our Western ways permit this' responses objectively alternately hilarious and annoying.

Fixed, per the Mineshaft.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:53 PM
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Doesn't everyone hate bunnies and kittens?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:53 PM
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191: I prefer to do it in person. On the internet, no one knows you're really crying.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:54 PM
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We should recognize that someone from a small poor country might not only be very smart, but also very quirky and funny, and at the same time still have serious attitudes about things which are far different than ours.

Emerson's in LOOOOOOOOOOOVE.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:55 PM
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Huh. Whatever my meanest moment on the internet was, it was probably here. I should be able to think of something...


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:55 PM
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Oh. I'll vote for real, if only because I've known people much like read. Labs, tho', isn't real - I've seen pictures and he's just a big grey impersonal smudge. If he were real, he'd be a brightly coloured friendly smudge.


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brightly coloured friendly smudge.

I've met him, and that's about right. At least, after the amount I drank at DCon, that was what you all looked like.


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I'm gullible, though. I oncce believed that heebie was an actual Texan just because she lived there. Whereas she's a perfectly sensible, normal person, not Texan at all.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:57 PM
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I think read is awesome, and I also think people should make fun of her more.

This is a sign of my own buddha nature.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:57 PM
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198: From those pix, it looked as if all of you were bright friendly smudges by the end of the evening. Did B-Wo ever take off his tie??


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:58 PM
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heebie, we knew that. You're getting all up in Emerson's game.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:59 PM
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Shows what you know.

Yes, it does show what I know.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:59 PM
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Did B-Wo ever take off his tie??

That would be telling.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 3:59 PM
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I think ben looked very sharp.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:00 PM
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I once believed Emerson had wings. But that angel flew too close to the sun.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:01 PM
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But note, young B, that you have been referred to in a way calculated to avert bad luck. Many men who ewar ties cannot say the same.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:01 PM
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Even many men who wear ties


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:02 PM
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However, I do absorb oxygen through my skin, so I can survive when covered entirely in mud. That's my superpowers.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:02 PM
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205: Sharp, yes, but where are the half-naked B-Wo /Labs/ et al. pictures of yesteryear? Ou sont les nues d'antan?


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:04 PM
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Thank you, Cala.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:06 PM
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However, I do absorb oxygen through my skin,

Has anyone else heard that if you cover the back of your neck with make-up or bodypaint, you will suffocate, even if you can breathe normally?

I'm sure I've heard that from a few different sources, although googling didn't turn up anything.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:07 PM
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I've heard that if you cover the back of your neck in a dream, you die in real life.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:08 PM
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And there's a secret message in Stairway To Heaven.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:08 PM
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214: To wit: "Paul is dead."


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212: This was the basis of an elaborate story about the actress who was painted gold in Goldfinger actually dying. See Snopes here.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:11 PM
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The correct answer could be found if someone would set up a betting market in which we could buy and sell derivatives based on whether read is Borating us or not.


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216: I take issue with "As long as a person can breathe through his mouth and/or nose, he will not die of asphyxiation, no matter how much of his body is covered with paint (or any other substance)." I find that covering anyone with quick-setting cement inevitably leads to the need for a funeral.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:21 PM
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Thanks, JP.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:25 PM
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we are simple people


Posted by: Mister Just Lee | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:30 PM
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Crucifixion kills via asphyxiation too, doesn't it? I guess this argument hinges on what you mean by "can breathe". If you can't move your lungs, you can't really breathe through your nose or your mouth.


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So if someone covered the back of your neck with bodypaint, then nailed you to a cross, it would be a race over which would kill you first. By asphyxiation.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:35 PM
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Unless you sneezed. Then your soul would escape through the holes in your wrists and that would kill you.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:36 PM
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there are russians around here?
couldn't tell from comments,


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:36 PM
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They tested the body paint myth on Mythbusters, covering one of the guys in paint, and obviously, he didn't die, but he did experience hot flashes as his body tried to sweat, couldn't, and shifted the heat around his body.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:39 PM
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Bless you, heebie. Bless you.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:41 PM
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So his bodyheat could be conducted to the wooden cross and it could spontaneously combust? That dude is SO BUMMED.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:42 PM
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224- Read, Emerson thinks you're kinda cute.


Posted by: asl | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:48 PM
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I'll go with real and performance art.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:48 PM
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My absolute meanest moment on the internet I probably can never reveal; it was not something to be proud of.

Meaner than when you said New Orleans should die! die! die!?


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 4:51 PM
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read, 200 is probably the best explanation you'll get.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:04 PM
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I totally concur with 200, as well.

Given the foreign policy of the current administration and its apparently legitimate reelection in 2004, I can forgive a lot of tarring of Western morals with a broad brush. Sure, the US != the West, but still, we represent.


Posted by: Pantene | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:34 PM
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Okay, here's the deal, read: The nature of this site is that people tease each other a lot and often argue, sometimes quite heatedly, and the tone is generally fairly vulgar. As a result, insults are common, and are generally not intended to be as harsh as they sound. You're relatively new here, and you aren't going to be able to change that tone, because the people who have been here longer like it and want to keep the site that way. Given that, you have a choice. You can decide the site is not for you and leave, or you can try to adapt to the site as it is and become integrated into the community, which will necessarily involve getting used to the harsh tone and the insults and not getting upset every time someone makes a joke at your expense. You could also try a different tactic by asking people to not be mean to you personally, but this is unlikely to work if you continue to post inflammatory comments on sensitive issues the way you have been lately. To get people to change their behavior, you first need to build up a certain amount of goodwill for yourself, and you haven't done that yet and don't seem to be trying to do it either.

What you can't do, however, is unilaterally decide that everyone here should be nicer and less vulgar and expect us to go along with that. Not every forum is harsh like this, but this one is and it isn't going to change.

Personally, I like you and would like for you to stick around, but if you're going to do that you need to adapt more to the norms of the site and not expect it to adapt to your norms, because it won't.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:41 PM
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Huh, I once made someone cry on the internet, though of course not intentionally. I can't say I'm either proud or rueful about it: god knows we'd insulted one another enough times over the course of a year or more. (She deserved it! Don't be dissing me professionally, and cut it out with the sighing! Watch your tone, and stop being so stupid!)

My feeling now is that being continually and deeply annoyed by someone is just -- meh. It happens. Oddly, that woman and I are somewhat friends now.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:46 PM
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Uh, I think I overdid it. I mighta chased read away by mistake.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:46 PM
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Bad heebie!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:48 PM
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Teo, you should make read your coblogger. The time has come for a group blog that can compete with Unfogged by staking out the "not mean" territory.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:49 PM
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I imagined Heebie to be areal texas girl, blonde, slender, and 5'11", wearing cowboy boots with a chaw of tobacco in her cheek, a revolver on her hip, and a coonhound by her side. Sort of like Miranda Lambert. But no.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:51 PM
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no biscuit?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:51 PM
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Or an armadillohound or whatever they have in Texas.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:52 PM
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235: Huh. I thought I did it.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:52 PM
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The time has come for a group blog that can compete with Unfogged by staking out the "not mean" territory.

Sounds intriguing, but somehow I doubt there's much demand for a not-mean Unfogged.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:52 PM
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Bad apo!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:53 PM
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I like nice hot white flour biscuits with butter and honey.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:54 PM
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teo unleashed!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:54 PM
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hot white flour biscuits

Definitely better than white hot flour biscuits.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:54 PM
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Agreed!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:55 PM
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I like my biscuits like I like my women. Except for the "flour" part.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:55 PM
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not-mean Unfogged.

I think those are cults. Oh, I'm sorry. Alternative Religious Movements.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:56 PM
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I like biscuits and scones.


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How do you like your women, Ned?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 5:59 PM
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I imagined Heebie to be areal texas girl, blonde, slender, and 5'11", wearing cowboy boots with a chaw of tobacco in her cheek, a revolver on her hip, and a coonhound by her side. Sort of like Miranda Lambert. But no.

It was very The Truth About Cats And Dogs with me and Emerson, for a while there.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:00 PM
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251: Brown and flaky.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:00 PM
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Seedy.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:01 PM
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Is your name Ned, apostropher?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:01 PM
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Slathered in ooze.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:03 PM
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Nicely summarized, Teo.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:03 PM
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Well, she couldn't be tall and blonde, but she could have got the tobacco, the armadillohound, and the revolver.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:05 PM
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255: I'm Ned where it counts, baby.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:05 PM
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If read is pretending to be a Mongol educated in Russian, she's doing a good job of it.

This would depend on whether the mistakes in the translations are the result of misunderstanding Russian or misunderstanding English.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:07 PM
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Nicely summarized, Teo.

Thanks. I presume you're referring to 236.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:08 PM
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Or maybe she just never heard of System of a Down.


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249: Dude, Unfogged is the cult of weenie-waving. Or wienie. It wouldn't do to be confused. Teo explained it, anyway.


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Or maybe she just never heard of System of a Down.

I don't think there's any maybe about it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:10 PM
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All this stuff about read is kind of coming out of left field to me, honestly. I remember the thread where read left a comment saying that it was rude to mock the president, and much of the following thread was concerned with disagreeing with that, and some parts of the discussion got interesting, at least IMHO. But apparently it's a habit? There was something in a breast-feeding discussion?

171: If I had had more time to comment when I left 170, I might have elaborated to say that I wasn't just joking. I think "nègre" isn't the most polite word for black people in French. It's not as bad as "nigger" is in English (it's kinda sad how much I thought about whether I should write "the n-word" or something, but oh well), but I think it's still offensive; "noir" or "d'origine africaine" would be better. And maybe it's more polite in Québec than in France, but I figured, y'know, just in case an Unfoggeder is planning a trip to France soon, better safe than sorry. Not like my one-word comment would have accomplished that, but anyways.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:36 PM
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Cyrus, read said some stuff in the Gah thread that was a little odd.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 6:43 PM
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I like hot white power biscuits.

I mean flour.

Flour.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-14-08 7:04 PM
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Hey read- my daughter the heiress and I will be going to the Gobi desert on a dig this summer. How about a Mongolian meet up! All are welcome in Ulaanbaatar.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 01-15-08 9:20 AM
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