in my country there is problem
and that problem is comments
it take very very long
because comment thread is big
Teo, I'm surprised at you; 1 actually struck me as kind of mean.
3: Rosie has a blog that is written in pseudo-haiku.
I thought 1 was kinda mean, too.
You people are terrible. Let me clarify that 5 is meant as pure compliment toward SpBp.
Damn. I've probably used up my quota of touchiness for the day, and have lost credibility for pointing out that the post itself is kind of mean.
Maybe I should actually go back to getting these cites filled in.
Wait, are there actually people who believe that read *isn't* borating us? I took that as beyond dispute. Could be wrong, though.
In my defense, 1 is hilarious.
I'm pro-Labs and pro-cruelty in general, but this post isn't doing it for me.
11 is mean.
The post is unproductive at best.
LABS IS CHIMPEACHED
FOR MEANNESS
IN MY COUNTRY
The idea that 1 needs defense is mean. To read.
I thought the post was hilarious.
Throw comments down the well.
The post is, of course, mean. 1 is somewhat mean as well, but it's such a perfect parody of the original song that I thought it brilliant.
I guess we can't tease each other for humorous effect anymore, because we all hate each other.
Unbelievably mean. Funny, but mean.
17: Whew. Having said that it seemed kind of mean, I've been wondering if I dare admit that I kind of, you know, approve.
After ten more seconds' reflection, the funny outweighs the mean.
I'm pro-teasing each other, but I thought the new rule was to refrain from teasing people who don't like being teased.
we can't tease each other for humorous effect anymore
I've been fighting that tendency for some time now. All is lost.
Also, read is totally Holbo.
1 is hilarious. Grr! Asshole face! Booga-booga!
Great, now I'm the mean one. This is only going to make Ogged post more about humiliating handicapped kids.
My new strategy of not reading Unfogged is looking better all the time.
I thought the new rule was to refrain from teasing people who seems oddly at home with recent internet slang yet profess not to understand mystical Western ways.
Okay, if Cala's on board, then I am unreservedly pro-this post. Cala's always much nicer than I am.
Spambots need to be teased, lest they get all tense and overserious.
is read ont he record as not liking being teased? i missed there. there needs to be a newsletter or something.
The rule in 29 was neither seconded nor properly passed to a vote.
Several lurkers have e-mailed me wondering why read even merits a whole separate post. "Good question," I told them. "We know," they e-mailed back. "Also, we think you are very handsome." "Why, thank you," I replied.
If I may continue in my self-serving vein: you all who didn't think 1 was funny, are you stressing the second syllable of "comments"? Because this is important.
32: Read is on the record of constantly saying that she doesn't understand why people have to be so argumentative and judgmental all the time, and that X is just her opinion. This suggests to me that teasing is Right Out.
29: So teasing read woud be like violating the Analogy Ban?
OPINIONATED METACOMMENT is cracking me up.
On what planet is unfogged about making everybody feel comfortable, anyhow?
34 is funnier than both the post and 1.
EVERYBODY MUST FEEL ME
40: On the planet where praise for the Pats is greeted and even seconded.
Are you people saying that the mere idea of a handsome Afro-Canadian is risible?!?
Read is on the record of constantly saying that she doesn't understand why people have to be so argumentative and judgmental all the time
Of course she doesn't understand. She hasn't slept with us yet.
wow, the post about me?
i'm like very much amused and even flattered
though i never watched borat and rosie o'donnell
coz i suspected i would get upset
and now like rather strongly object being compared to them
why DO people have to be so argumentative? ogged told me today that my rooting for the Packers is tantamount to mutilation of foreign children. read might be on to something.
I move that we turn this thread into an earnest, 700 comments-long discussion on propriety, polite yet open discourse, and the Future of the Blog.
47: Not tantamount - that would be an analogy and therefore is forbidden. Ogged was arguing for a direct cause-effect relationsihip.
That would at least help me get more work done on my dissertation.
50: But first, everyone should pick a new pseudonym.
If read is pretending to be a Mongol educated in Russian, she's doing a good job of it. Knowing internet slang isn't unusual because slang is picked up quickly, even by people who aren't fluent. Slang isn't taught in textbooks, but it isn't hard to learn.
Her commenting style is unique, unquestionably, as are her comments themselves.
on any given day, h ow many people commenting here are neglecting a dissertation? i am always in that number. I guess I am occasionally neglecting teaching prep. But not often. And occasionally neglecting my daughter.
The funniest thing about 34 is that I have sent an e-mail asking about read, though not that question particularly.
Asshole face!
Is this another style you're trying with the goatee?
Are you people saying that the mere idea of a handsome Afro-Canadian is risible?!?
A handsome Afro-Canadian metalhead? Hell yes it's risible.
47: People who condone the mutilation of children shouldn't be so fucking touchy.
I'm neglecting my responsibilities. And sometimes, sad to say, my bladder.
56 was posted from read's IP.
My god - Emerson was a persona invented by read all along!
B, women who neglect their bladders sometimes explode like Tycho. Take care of yourself.
I too am neglecting Sybil's daughter.
61: I thought that Slack was a punk, not a metalhead.
If 59 is true, then I am so very fucking impressed.
65: Luckily, sooner or later there's always a boring sports post or something.
I would prefer that all you argumentative and judgmental slackers neglect my daughter.
46 is funnier than anything else, period.
Sybil, why don't you email me your cell #?
56- Who do you like more- read or Randy Moss?
59, sadly, is not true, but man, that would be funny.
B, you were so supportive when we met last year (around this time, actually); you can't start hectoring now!
Am I incredibly naive for thinking that most people on the internet are who they say they are?
Most of the people I meet on the internet say things like "I'm a middle aged college professor" and when you meet them in person, lo and behold they are.
Eh, I was more wowed when it was revealed that Labs is merely one of slolernr's personae. And you will all agree that Labs has fallen off since he was begun; sockpuppeting is sadly a passing fancy.
I can faux hector!
75: Shit. I was all set to crown Emerson the king of Unfogged.
78: They're personae? I thought it was more a kind of separated-at-birth thing.
Most of the people I meet on the internet say things like "I'm a middle aged college professor" and when you meet them in person, lo and behold they are.
This has been my experience as well.
And you will all agree that Labs has fallen off since he was begun
The question is, has Labs fallen off more or less than everyone else? I vote more.
They would have been separated at birth, but sadly, they were joined at the cloaca.
50: racist.
Screw you, Tweety. Some of my best friends are earnest, 700 comments-long discussions on propriety, polite yet open discourse, and the Future of the Blog.
I suspect 82 was supposed to be by Mary Rosh.
I don't know why 85 is so funny, but it is.
God, we really are bad people, aren't we?
77: The ones you meet, yes. I may be rather cynical, but my internet travels have seen one lonely guy pretending to be in the 101st so women would chat with the nice soldier boy; lots of guys pretending to be girls; and one guy pretending to be a budding rock star from Cambodia named Phnom Penh.
When I was 14 I met a girl on the internet who claimed to be 14. At one point I asked her how I could be sure she was who she said she was. Then she asked me the same thing. We didn't have much in common anyway.
88: Really!! Do tell, Cala. No wonder Shivbunny is so suspicious of your internet time.
I like being argumentative and I like argumentative people. I don't like being called gross. Just for the record. This place usually manages to be argumentative without taking it personally or being insulting which I why I love all you wonderful, wonderful, warm, intelligent, fiendishly sexy (christ, especially that DS, whom I tracked down and spied on whilst in Canada - it's a small country you know), simply marvellous people cunts.
I've only ever met 2 people I 'knew' from the internet. Which I suspect puts me behind the curve.
90: Yeah, the experience of adolescents on the internet must be completely different. I'm still not sure how I'm going to handle it when Joey and Caroline are older.
Cala! Stay out of the waterfront dive blogs!
91: There's not all that much to tell, from my days of Internet games. But I tend to suspect most of the internet is lies. There's eventually a slip somewhere.
Rob, if you're like me, the people you've met from the internet are people who go to parties to meet other people, ie, they enter contexts where it would be hard to maintain an internet fiction. This is not a good sample.
95: I'm thinking it might not be as tough as people say it is. PK knows that on the blog he's "PK," and he knows that this is because, while most people in the world are wonderfully awesome, every once in a blue moon someone is crazy or mean, and you know, just for the sake of having some privacy, it's better not to let the crazy/mean people know who you are online. This seems not to have freaked him out, although it has resulted in the adorable response of his using the initials PK and PG ("Pseudonymous Gr/unty") on his desktop computer game. (Which is, it probably doesn't need to be said, not actually online.)
Hear hear 90/95. I at least am comforted by the knowledge that by the time I have teenaged children they will have some technology even more instantly gratifying, socially retarding, pornocopiatic and alien to my experience of adolescence than the web. So I needn't worry now.
My teenage Fargo niece corresponded in French with an age-unknown-to-me guy in Brazil for awhile. I imagine that he was dreaming of an exotic French-speaking Scarlett Johannson Fargo blonde.
Most of the people I meet on the internet say things like "I'm a middle aged college professor" and when you meet them in person, lo and behold they are. we continue the ruse.
Thing is, most people you meet on the internet claim to be pretty ordinary mundane folks, and in fact they are. Being from outside the US is perfectly mundane. I believe ogged when he says he is a lur living on the west coast who likes to swim, even if I had to look up what lur was.
99: I've met people from the internet for sex. And Rob's right. They are pretty much exactly who they say they are.
For the record, I'm a svelte, 19 year old contortionist. I hired that guy who showed up at UDC so I wouldn't make you all feel nervous.
And how big is your sample, B?
/Church Lady
95: Not adolescents, necessarily. More gamers. Bloggers I suspect are better in this regard, or at least better about having consistent personae. But I'd recommend keeping the computer somewhere public or at least keep tabs on where they go. It's not dangerous, most of the time, but it can be confusing.
I'm only pretending to be a barely-employed loser burned out in his twenties on the internet. In reality, I am a multi-billionaire oil tycoon, and I spend all my space time swimming in a giant pit of money and naked people.
109: The quantity comparison is uninteresting. Inquiring minds want to know who's in the overlap.
The only way you could like 1 is if you hate the Mongols, ogged.
I'm a middle-aged college professor.
Some of my best friends have Mongol friends.
I would hope so. My brand would be damaged if it were revealed that I have a life.
Me, Mr. Anti-Life.
Are pro-life people real party animals? On Friday nights to they say out to the bars to get a life?
111: For fuck's sake, would you just give us all a list of who we can and cannot be mean to, already?
How many boards would the mongols hoard, if the mongol hordes got bored?
Is read really a Mongol? I thought she was Japanese. Am I the only one?
110: What's it like being a lawyer in the mayor's office and the world's strongest millionaire?
118 is the question I intend to address in my dissertation, or rather, my dissertation will be an inquiry into the transcendental conditions of boredom and mongols.
111: For fuck's sake, would you just give us all a list of who we can and cannot be mean to, already?
One can be mean to: women + the posters at the Corner + {ogged} - {read}
One cannot be mean to: everyone else.
A handsome Afro-Canadian metalhead? Hell yes it's risible.
He might be a little hard to track down these days, but I can introduce you to one. Maybe two.
I'd rather be introduced to a cute Afro-Canadian indie chyk, to be honest.
Don't fight natural selection. Be mean to everybody and thin the herd.
I've never really understood the idea of maintaining a fictional character on the internet or whatever. Seems like way to much work. I suspect many (most?) amplify parts of their personality but that's about it.
118 comes from Calvin and Hobbes.
127: Pretty much all you'd have to do is move to Toronto or (better) Montreal. I'm not saying you'll be tripping over cute Afro-Canadian (particularly Caribbean) ide chyk's, but there isn't exactly a shortage, especially considering the honkitude of the indie scene in general.
What about those of us who are innately talented at meanness? Surely we should get special privileges.
I don't want an integrated development environment chyk.
Also, soup, the plural of "chyk" is "chyx", not (shudder) "chyk's".
"chyk" and "chyx" are, of course, the preferred terms.
131: I will find other reasons to love you, ben w-lfs-n.
133: why should you be rewarded for doing what comes easy anyway?
134: You have no idea how hard it was to hit send on "chyk's" but I did it just for you.
integrated development environment chyk.
This part I don't follow, though.
136: I ask for no reward. I ask only that my natural inclinations be allowed to exert themselves, and my natural talent not be wasted.
Montreal is ground zero for Afro-Canadian hotties.
Does anyone remember the movie Comment faire l'amour avec un nègre sans se fatiguer?
138: you referred to "ide chyk's".
so it's from each, according to their ability; to each, according to their need, then Bitch?
141: Oh, missed that. Multitasking. Damn. Wasted a perfectly good typo tying it up with a grammar-bomb then. bah.
140: Toronto isn't a bad choice either though ... there's a pretty good showing.
On the contrary, soup: when the from each/to each regime has been instituted, no one will have any cause to bitch at all.
145: since when has bitching needed a cause? Bitching is a primum movem.
I can't decide if this is too easy, or too much fun.
145: Good point! But until then, my ability is bitching. I offer it in the spirit of comradeship, free to all.
How does B know I'm a punk and not a metalhead? That's eerie.
125: I know a few, ben. I promise to tell them only the very nicest things about you that come to mind.
i think i really don't like fontana labs for his "indeed"
i'm slowly getting offended
it's a cultural thing, but i'd prefer people to not mention my nation without much need
we are simple people and prefer to not say out loud in idle conversation the names of people who we admire, things which we revere out of superstition, see i'm backwards like that
for example, to make it understandable for you George Washington would be called President Wa, Dostoevsky - the great Do, etc not their full names
Mongol means true center btw, and if you want to address me please address me, not Mongols in general, coz i don't want to call upon us a bad luck
read you have a lot of rules. It is confusing.
She's telling us how to avoid bad luck. I don't want bad luck. I think we should listen.
i just said address please me, not Mongols in general, i may be rude and whatever
then i should bear my faults not my people, right?
that's not a rule
just as polite as possible request, thanks
we are simple people and prefer to not say out loud in idle conversation the names of people who we admire
We do the same thing. Jennifer Lopez is J-Lo, etc.
139: One law for the bitch and everyone else is tyranny!
149: I'm stalking you.
i'm slowly getting offended
it's a cultural thing, but i'd prefer people to not mention my nation without much need
Well, it's a cultural thing for me, maybe, but I'd prefer that people not use "I'm getting offended" to insulate themselves from criticism, especially if they are actually hoping to participate in a group where having one's ideas criticized is an awfully big part of how things are done, and especially if they reserve to themselves the right to criticize others while hiding behind "it's only my opinion."
Seriously, a certain initial period of reassuring someone "yes, it's okay for you to join us" is all well and good. But after a while, having to continually offer that reassurance becomes tiresome.
DON'T TALK TO ME
OR TALK ABOUT ME
OR MENTION MY NAME
THAT SHIT PISSES ME OFF
SO, HOW'S STUFF?
address please me, not Mongols in general
Who was addressing Mongols in general? And how is it okay for you to make generalizations about western morality (or whatever it is), but not okay for someone to make generalizations back? Especially if the latter generalizations are meant in a spirit of camaraderie and teasing, rather than as a serious aspersion?
read you should get somebody else to yell at people who are mean to you. It's no fun to do it yourself.
if you revere J-Lo, that's Ok you know
i do not need anyone's reassurance, thank you
may i say my honest opinions once without being judged
why it is always needed to shout f word or whatever to participate in the threads
can't you people just read and think this person thinks this way this is different from me, us, whoever it may be interesting or boring and just let it go
and do not feel the strong urge to crash someone with your authority and knowledge and wits and whatever
I have a serious question. Is "read" pronounced as if her pseudonym is in the present tense or the past tense? Or is it something like "ray-ad"?
Because this isn't that kind of forum.
And because we're vulgar westerners who like shouting curse words.
What??? Have you actually read any other comment threads? Most people are only here to crush others with their authority and knowledge and wits and whatever.
I objected to your breastfeeding advice because it was factually incorrect.
why it is always needed to shout f word or whatever to participate in the threads
Motherfuckin' right.
Fortunately, 160 is an example of spurious animadversion rather than a serious aspersion.
Most people are only here to crush others with their authority and knowledge and wits and whatever.
Heh.
you all who didn't think 1 was funny, are you stressing the second syllable of "comments"? Because this is important.
Oh, Standpipe, I've missed you so.
OT except as it relates to 51, 85, 163, and 170: can you imagine if we had a rule that required unique comments?
Wait, are there actually people who believe that read *isn't* borating us? I took that as beyond dispute. Could be wrong, though.
I'm curious about this, as well. I don't believe "read" is f'reals either. Does anyone?
I think read is real. I'm not suspicious by nature.
I'd rather be introduced to a cute Afro-Canadian indie chyk, to be honest.
Ben, I think you may be looking for something like this, but with the sexes reversed.
171: Mr. Marvey I can't begin to tell you how happy that link makes me today.
I thought read was fake until she started posting translations. Seems awfully earnest for borat.
172: Er, me. For my sins. I'd assumed that there was a level of playfulness in read's style, but not that she was, say, a white American marketing associate.
I usually assume that most people on the not-only-about-the-sex sections of the internet are sorta-kinda who they say they are, if only because faking plausibly over a protracted period is difficult. That is, it wouldn't be impossible if read were someone who'd spent a lot of time in central Asia but was not herself actually from there--at one point I could probably have faked up a posting identity as maybe a Chinese research assistant in the US, just because I'd spent a lot of time speaking English with Chinese scientists who wanted to come to the US.
But it's not at all implausible that someone could write in an internet-slang-plus-stilted-English manner. Come on, ESL-teachers of Unfogged, help me out here!
Perhaps Emerson and I are both naive because we're from the provinces, though.
I assume read is who she says she is; I wouldn't have called the post mean if I didn't. I don't have much knowledge of anything to base this on, but her persona is consistent, and makes sense with what she says about herself.
Read- I do agree that you're unnecessarily touchy about a bunch of stuff, but this sort of post would make anyone touchy.
What Read has said about Mongolia has struck me as about right. For example, she seems to be transliterating contemporary Mongol or Russian names of historical figures rather than using the forms in Western scholarship. The Russian readers here seem convinced that she knows Russian, which is normal for an educated Mongol. Her Mongol CDs have been interesting.
As for her way of commenting in English, it is indeed quirky and sometimes very frank and sometimes apologetic. Likewise many of her attitudes are distant from ours, but that's what you might expect.
So anyway, I say not Borat. Anyone trying to sucker me would pretend to obviously be a Mongol, of course, but Borat or not, I've found read very interesting.
Raed, to you I would say that we insult each other here frequently up to a certain point, and then back off. A game we play. And in general small rebukes don't mean that people are going to stay mad at you.
I'm naughty by nature, and I think read is on some feel good thug shit.
well, apprantly there are a lot of read comments i haven't read. which isn't surprising, really.
I believe that read's for real and that questionable content sucks balls.
Can we just agree that if read is not who she says she is then she's a great work of performance art? That's a whole LOT of effort to go to just to fool a bunch of over-educated, neurotic members of the Western bourgeoisie.
Besides, without a few surly people to focus the crabbiness on, the Unfoggetariat would turn on itself, bloodbath, horror, etc.
questionable content sucks balls
Shows what you know.
I agree with... w-lfs-n?!
What kind of a topsy turvy world is this? Life has lost it's meaning!
I don't know if read is real. I suspect so. But I find the dynamic of 'it is not good karma to laugh at the President' and the very earnest 'in America, our Western ways permit this' responses alternately hilarious and annoying.
sucks balls.
why so vulgar?
not necessary to agree with me
but no need to
be
mean
133: But, my dear, you have honed your natural talent; don't dismiss the admirable effort you've put into it.
I was often accused of being mean on a CIS forum many a year ago. My favourite pronouncement: "You take what people say and quote it back to them! That isn't fair, using what people said..." [I also apparently hated men, women, fluffy bunnies, amateur chefs and the soi-disant kewl. My bad.]
But now, I am working up the energy to be a curmudgeonne again so genial and laid back and kind to kittens that I make my real self mean people sick.
We should recognize that someone from a small poor country might not only be very smart, but also very quirky and funny, and at the same time still have serious attitudes about things which are far different than ours.
Mongolia has been socialist for decades, and in socialist countries families are less totally dependent on the breadwinner. Furthermore, families are less likely to plan to help their children get ahead in the world, since education is subsidized and upward mobility is also generally less.
This is with regard to read's attitudes about insurance, which seems like gambling a chunk of a family's scarce resources on the possibility that the breadwinner will die young. (We could regard this as an opportunity to see what America looks like to outsiders).
I also say read is real, suspicious mean people.
I'm sure I've mentioned before making people cry over the internet. It's awesome.
My absolute meanest moment on the internet I probably can never reveal; it was not something to be proud of. Boy, I did a great job, though.
But I find the dynamic of 'it is not good karma to laugh at the President' and the very earnest 'in America, our Western ways permit this' responses objectively alternately hilarious and annoying.
Fixed, per the Mineshaft.
Doesn't everyone hate bunnies and kittens?
191: I prefer to do it in person. On the internet, no one knows you're really crying.
We should recognize that someone from a small poor country might not only be very smart, but also very quirky and funny, and at the same time still have serious attitudes about things which are far different than ours.
Emerson's in LOOOOOOOOOOOVE.
Huh. Whatever my meanest moment on the internet was, it was probably here. I should be able to think of something...
Oh. I'll vote for real, if only because I've known people much like read. Labs, tho', isn't real - I've seen pictures and he's just a big grey impersonal smudge. If he were real, he'd be a brightly coloured friendly smudge.
brightly coloured friendly smudge.
I've met him, and that's about right. At least, after the amount I drank at DCon, that was what you all looked like.
I'm gullible, though. I oncce believed that heebie was an actual Texan just because she lived there. Whereas she's a perfectly sensible, normal person, not Texan at all.
I think read is awesome, and I also think people should make fun of her more.
This is a sign of my own buddha nature.
198: From those pix, it looked as if all of you were bright friendly smudges by the end of the evening. Did B-Wo ever take off his tie??
heebie, we knew that. You're getting all up in Emerson's game.
Shows what you know.
Yes, it does show what I know.
Did B-Wo ever take off his tie??
That would be telling.
I once believed Emerson had wings. But that angel flew too close to the sun.
But note, young B, that you have been referred to in a way calculated to avert bad luck. Many men who ewar ties cannot say the same.
However, I do absorb oxygen through my skin, so I can survive when covered entirely in mud. That's my superpowers.
205: Sharp, yes, but where are the half-naked B-Wo /Labs/ et al. pictures of yesteryear? Ou sont les nues d'antan?
However, I do absorb oxygen through my skin,
Has anyone else heard that if you cover the back of your neck with make-up or bodypaint, you will suffocate, even if you can breathe normally?
I'm sure I've heard that from a few different sources, although googling didn't turn up anything.
I've heard that if you cover the back of your neck in a dream, you die in real life.
And there's a secret message in Stairway To Heaven.
214: To wit: "Paul is dead."
212: This was the basis of an elaborate story about the actress who was painted gold in Goldfinger actually dying. See Snopes here.
The correct answer could be found if someone would set up a betting market in which we could buy and sell derivatives based on whether read is Borating us or not.
216: I take issue with "As long as a person can breathe through his mouth and/or nose, he will not die of asphyxiation, no matter how much of his body is covered with paint (or any other substance)." I find that covering anyone with quick-setting cement inevitably leads to the need for a funeral.
Crucifixion kills via asphyxiation too, doesn't it? I guess this argument hinges on what you mean by "can breathe". If you can't move your lungs, you can't really breathe through your nose or your mouth.
So if someone covered the back of your neck with bodypaint, then nailed you to a cross, it would be a race over which would kill you first. By asphyxiation.
Unless you sneezed. Then your soul would escape through the holes in your wrists and that would kill you.
there are russians around here?
couldn't tell from comments,
They tested the body paint myth on Mythbusters, covering one of the guys in paint, and obviously, he didn't die, but he did experience hot flashes as his body tried to sweat, couldn't, and shifted the heat around his body.
Bless you, heebie. Bless you.
So his bodyheat could be conducted to the wooden cross and it could spontaneously combust? That dude is SO BUMMED.
224- Read, Emerson thinks you're kinda cute.
My absolute meanest moment on the internet I probably can never reveal; it was not something to be proud of.
Meaner than when you said New Orleans should die! die! die!?
read, 200 is probably the best explanation you'll get.
I totally concur with 200, as well.
Given the foreign policy of the current administration and its apparently legitimate reelection in 2004, I can forgive a lot of tarring of Western morals with a broad brush. Sure, the US != the West, but still, we represent.
Okay, here's the deal, read: The nature of this site is that people tease each other a lot and often argue, sometimes quite heatedly, and the tone is generally fairly vulgar. As a result, insults are common, and are generally not intended to be as harsh as they sound. You're relatively new here, and you aren't going to be able to change that tone, because the people who have been here longer like it and want to keep the site that way. Given that, you have a choice. You can decide the site is not for you and leave, or you can try to adapt to the site as it is and become integrated into the community, which will necessarily involve getting used to the harsh tone and the insults and not getting upset every time someone makes a joke at your expense. You could also try a different tactic by asking people to not be mean to you personally, but this is unlikely to work if you continue to post inflammatory comments on sensitive issues the way you have been lately. To get people to change their behavior, you first need to build up a certain amount of goodwill for yourself, and you haven't done that yet and don't seem to be trying to do it either.
What you can't do, however, is unilaterally decide that everyone here should be nicer and less vulgar and expect us to go along with that. Not every forum is harsh like this, but this one is and it isn't going to change.
Personally, I like you and would like for you to stick around, but if you're going to do that you need to adapt more to the norms of the site and not expect it to adapt to your norms, because it won't.
Huh, I once made someone cry on the internet, though of course not intentionally. I can't say I'm either proud or rueful about it: god knows we'd insulted one another enough times over the course of a year or more. (She deserved it! Don't be dissing me professionally, and cut it out with the sighing! Watch your tone, and stop being so stupid!)
My feeling now is that being continually and deeply annoyed by someone is just -- meh. It happens. Oddly, that woman and I are somewhat friends now.
Uh, I think I overdid it. I mighta chased read away by mistake.
Teo, you should make read your coblogger. The time has come for a group blog that can compete with Unfogged by staking out the "not mean" territory.
I imagined Heebie to be areal texas girl, blonde, slender, and 5'11", wearing cowboy boots with a chaw of tobacco in her cheek, a revolver on her hip, and a coonhound by her side. Sort of like Miranda Lambert. But no.
Or an armadillohound or whatever they have in Texas.
The time has come for a group blog that can compete with Unfogged by staking out the "not mean" territory.
Sounds intriguing, but somehow I doubt there's much demand for a not-mean Unfogged.
I like nice hot white flour biscuits with butter and honey.
hot white flour biscuits
Definitely better than white hot flour biscuits.
I like my biscuits like I like my women. Except for the "flour" part.
not-mean Unfogged.
I think those are cults. Oh, I'm sorry. Alternative Religious Movements.
How do you like your women, Ned?
I imagined Heebie to be areal texas girl, blonde, slender, and 5'11", wearing cowboy boots with a chaw of tobacco in her cheek, a revolver on her hip, and a coonhound by her side. Sort of like Miranda Lambert. But no.
It was very The Truth About Cats And Dogs with me and Emerson, for a while there.
Well, she couldn't be tall and blonde, but she could have got the tobacco, the armadillohound, and the revolver.
255: I'm Ned where it counts, baby.
If read is pretending to be a Mongol educated in Russian, she's doing a good job of it.
This would depend on whether the mistakes in the translations are the result of misunderstanding Russian or misunderstanding English.
Nicely summarized, Teo.
Thanks. I presume you're referring to 236.
Or maybe she just never heard of System of a Down.
249: Dude, Unfogged is the cult of weenie-waving. Or wienie. It wouldn't do to be confused. Teo explained it, anyway.
Or maybe she just never heard of System of a Down.
I don't think there's any maybe about it.
All this stuff about read is kind of coming out of left field to me, honestly. I remember the thread where read left a comment saying that it was rude to mock the president, and much of the following thread was concerned with disagreeing with that, and some parts of the discussion got interesting, at least IMHO. But apparently it's a habit? There was something in a breast-feeding discussion?
171: If I had had more time to comment when I left 170, I might have elaborated to say that I wasn't just joking. I think "nègre" isn't the most polite word for black people in French. It's not as bad as "nigger" is in English (it's kinda sad how much I thought about whether I should write "the n-word" or something, but oh well), but I think it's still offensive; "noir" or "d'origine africaine" would be better. And maybe it's more polite in Québec than in France, but I figured, y'know, just in case an Unfoggeder is planning a trip to France soon, better safe than sorry. Not like my one-word comment would have accomplished that, but anyways.
Cyrus, read said some stuff in the Gah thread that was a little odd.
I like hot white power biscuits.
I mean flour.
Flour.
Hey read- my daughter the heiress and I will be going to the Gobi desert on a dig this summer. How about a Mongolian meet up! All are welcome in Ulaanbaatar.