Re: SOTU

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Nebraska.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:11 PM
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Texas hook 'em woo!


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:15 PM
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The State of the Union address is about as relevant as the Miss America pageant, which I understand will also be held this week, or maybe already happened. The idea that it still exists doesn't pass through my mind once all year, unless someone else mentions it.

I'm sure Bush is really looking forward to it too. Why not just skip the sorry ritual this year?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:18 PM
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Miss America already won. Miss Michigan was the victor, as I understand it.


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:19 PM
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It would be odd if they held the Miss America pageant and Miss America lost.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:21 PM
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Miss Michigan was the victor, as I understand it.

This is a Hillary-free thread, dammit.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:23 PM
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Nebraska has Nebraska, but Texas has That's Right, You're Not From Texas and the Texas Trilogy.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:27 PM
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I'm with Ned. What a sorry piece of kabuki that speech is, and it's only made worse by the punditocracy droning on endlessly about its meaning. The NFL should do us all a favor and schedule the Super Bowl at exactly the same time as the SOTU.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:29 PM
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There's still time. Get on the horn to Manning and Brady! Let's make this happen!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:30 PM
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Why not just skip the sorry ritual this year?

I was going to mention the constitution, but I guess that hasn't had much relevance of late anyway.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:31 PM
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There hasn't been a State of the Union speech every year, ben. It was just a letter to Congress from the president for many years.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:33 PM
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Until Wilson, the president just sent a written report to Congress on the state of the union.


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:34 PM
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We should go back to that, as part of our return to the Gilded Age.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:35 PM
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I didn't realize you meant just the address part, Ned.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:36 PM
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Miss Michigan/America is the granddaughter of another Miss Michigan (not America). Michigan also had a M.A. 20 years ago.

Miss America is a good Christian girl whose issue is eating disorders, which she is against.

She's not a Yooper, dammit. From near Detroit. A Yooper M.A. would be as good as a Newfie Miss Canada.

Sage advice she got: "I told her to keep something in mind, that all those other guys (contestants) put their pants on the same way you do," he said.

Not "the other girls put their panties on the same way you do", which would be piquant and titillating. Feminists have ruined everything.



Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:37 PM
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14: That's the "ritual". The thing where the congressmen stand up and sit down and clap and shout "Don't go there!" so that the media has something to interpret.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:38 PM
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"The state of our union is...."

Firm?
Manly?
Pulsating?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:38 PM
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Engorged?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:38 PM
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Ben, would you answer your email and/or text message already?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:39 PM
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I have received no email and my phone is off for lack of battery power. (It's not off to conserve power. The battery is really dead.)


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:40 PM
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3: I'm a wonk, and I still hate the SOTU. It's only in the Constitution because they didn't have CNN or AP in the 18th century.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:49 PM
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I think it would be fairly awesome if he just came out, said "The state of the union....is strong!" and then left the stage after the applause died down.


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:51 PM
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Ebullient?
Punchy?
Giddy?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:52 PM
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Or a congress with members presentraising funds almost constantly.

As it stands, "from time to time" really doesn't look to me to be "yearly."


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:53 PM
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It was once per session of congress, traditionally, no?


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:54 PM
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"The state of our union is *kick ass*"


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:54 PM
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Medical question: I was taking a book off a shelf in my office -- to write a snarky comment on the internet -- and accidentally knocked over a bottle of beer, that's been on the shelf for years. Maybe 5. More or less.

Headstrong Pale Ale. It says 5.2% on the label.

The top was jarred loose, so I went to the kitchen area on my floor to open it. It sprayed all over the room, and me too -- which is a bummer, because I'm wearing a suit today, and was thinking I'd wear it again on Wednesday. Anyway, I split what was left with a paralegal, who happened to be working late -- so we each had, what, 3 ounces. It wasn't bad, but I think it got a little stronger, because I'm a little woozier than I'd expect from 3 ounces of beer. Diagnoses?

And no, I'm not going to watch the sotu. That Man has nothing to nsay that interests me.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:55 PM
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"He shall from time to time give"

No yearly requirement.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:57 PM
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So what's people's tolerance for hearing the guy? How long can you listen before making a mad jab to change the station/channel/whatever? On a good day I can go maybe 10 seconds.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:58 PM
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28 - But it's always been done every year. I think we should go back to it being a written report.


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:58 PM
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27: Wait 3 days. If you still have kidneys, the beer was OK.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 4:59 PM
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Belligerent?
Needs-a-nap?
Shits all over the house?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:01 PM
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As President, I will make it a yearly report.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:01 PM
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Beer shouldn't get stronger from sitting out for years, unless maybe it was exposed to the air, in which case it would have been flat and you would have noticed that it tasted awful.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:02 PM
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30: But it's always been done every year.

Yes, and on June 27th of every year we have a lottery.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:04 PM
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Steady?
Solid?
Whatever they call that thing where solids go directly to gas
Triple?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:04 PM
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Apparently, "the state of our union is strong" has been in every SOTU but 1995 at least since Clinton took office.


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:05 PM
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34 -- I'm wearing enough of it to certify that it was not flat.

I'll be switching over to rum drinks in the tropics tomorrow.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:05 PM
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"Meine Damen und Herren, Mesdames et Messieurs, Ladies and Gentlemen, the state of our union is craptacular. I have presided over our fall from the pinnacle of our power, and maybe there's some way I could have avoided it, but personally I have no interest in the concept of the nation-state anyway. The following is a discourse on the benefits of laissez-faire capitalism."


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:06 PM
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SOTU cocktails are craptacular.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:08 PM
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36.3 The State of the Union is sublime.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:09 PM
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29:So what's people's tolerance for hearing the guy?

Zero. No tolerance at all. Less than zero. Some Cantor Negative Cardinal infinity times ten level.

My TV isn't on, but I want to throw it out the window anyway. Computer is in jeopardy. I resent this thread for reminding me.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:10 PM
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The state of the union is now Long Beach Dub Allstars.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:10 PM
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"The state of our union is *kick ass*"

These days, it's looking a bit more like ass kicked.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:11 PM
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Yeah, I can't stand listening to his voice either. But I'm going to make a REAL EFFORT for the SOTU. Really.

What time is the damn thing on, anyway?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:14 PM
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45: Why?


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:16 PM
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Combining 1 and 35 (sort of), he could just randomly select a state. "This year's State of the Union is... Vermont!" Then they'd cut away to a tourism board infomercial, during which everyone could just go home.

Tolerance-wise, I don't think I've lasted for more than 15 seconds of his voice in the last 2-3 years.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:22 PM
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Because Shark-Fu made it sound fun. Chocolate brownies!

Plus, it's the last one. So in a way it's sort of a happy occasion.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:23 PM
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A few years back another patron and I both asked a waiter to turn off a Bush speech, and he refused. No tip. We represented a majority of the patrons there (counting her table partner).


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:24 PM
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47 gets it right (both parts).

I've gotten so I can suffer through the odd 10 seconds of his voice during a news rundown, since I know it'll be over soon. But I always find myself muttering "stop talking, nobody wants to hear you say anything, go away, just leave us in piece".


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:24 PM
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The happy occasion will be when he leaves office. And I'd like to live long enough to piss on his grave, but that would be pure gravy.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:25 PM
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39: "Ladies and gentlemen, there is nothing wrong with the state of our union that making my tax cuts permanent could not solve. Once we have rewarded them with the entire national wealth, the richest one-half of one percent of Americans will use their magical entrepreneurial powers for the benefit of all"


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:25 PM
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Shark-fu is onto something with her scorecard. I'll bet the Mineshaft could come up with a pretty good SOTU drinking game.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:28 PM
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The only way I would consider watching the full address is if it began, "The state of the union is...well, it's pretty fucked, I gotta say."

Else I'm with NPH. Just now thinking about listening to the speech gets me a little crazy.


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:30 PM
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I would listen to an address from Opinionated Grandma on the state of her bunion.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:37 PM
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piss on his grave, but that would be pure gravy

That sounds uncomfortable.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:43 PM
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Don't mock NPH just because his bladder makes its own gravy. He's worth more dead than you are alive.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:49 PM
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The State of our Union is horny and eyeing a threesome with Canada and Mexico while Cuba watches.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:51 PM
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56 has inspired a road trip to Waco, taking along my large dogs.

"Mr McManus was shot Tuesday by Secret Service agents, while attempting to befoul the Bush Ranch with dogturds."


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 5:59 PM
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State of the Union? I never watch it. I am not much for speeches anyway, preferring to read the transcripts, but Bush in particular makes me want to beat him with the rhetoric stick.

He shall, from time to time... dude, 2009 meets that requirement.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:00 PM
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Now that I think about, I can't think of an SOTU drinking game that doesn't essentially boil down to "Start drinking when he opens his mouth, and stop when he's finished."


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:06 PM
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61: The benefit of that one is you can doing it while muting the TV and listening to something else.

Are even the pundits watching this time around? Why would they? What good would it do them?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:07 PM
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62.2, see 61.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:09 PM
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The State of the Union is gloriously, transcendently cromulent.

NPH, see a doctor, esepcially if that lasts more than four hours. But I know exactly how you feel. It took all of my willpower not to take the San Clemency exit to Nixon's grave when I happened to see it while on an errand in LA. Still regret it. Someday . . .


Posted by: Dr Paisley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:16 PM
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I suppose I could do it with the sound off and captions. Sometimes the typos can be funny.

Got to reboot my computer and turn the Vcore down.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:17 PM
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51: With a trough, the waiting list shouldn't be that long.


Posted by: mano negra | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:22 PM
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The state of the Union will have to remain classified while legal investigations are pending. Laura and the appropriate committee members have been briefed, in a general way, off the record. In a time of war. As commander-in-chief. The troops. God bless America.


Posted by: I.P. Freeley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:34 PM
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Stateofthewhatnow?


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:35 PM
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Whatever they call that thing where solids go directly to gas

Sublimation!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 6:59 PM
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I thought that was directing sexual frustration into your work.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:00 PM
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That, too.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:01 PM
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Explains a lot of my work, though.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:07 PM
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67 - San Dimas High School football rules!


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:10 PM
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73: the State of the Union is radical. Now, be excellent to each other.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:13 PM
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73: A friend and a were talking the other day about where Bush might have found his true calling in life. We concluded that he probably would have been just about right as a high school athletic director.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:13 PM
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Phase Diagram

"A triple point is, in a pressure-temperature phase diagram, the unique intersection of the lines of equilibrium between three states of matter, usually solid, liquid, and gas."

I wasn't sure if the triple point wasn't in itself a state, not animal. vegetable, mineral, fungal, or George W Bush.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:14 PM
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STFU would be a better title for the State of the Union thread.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:14 PM
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75: I'm thinking Cadillac salesman who is the son-in-law of the guy who owns the dealership.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:16 PM
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GWB: The state of the union is clappy.

[effusive congressional applause]

GWB: Heh-heh-heh. Toldja!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:18 PM
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Cut earmarks in half. No more, no less.

Christ this is vapid.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:19 PM
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Stanley:

I was in C-ville this weekend. So I didnt call you.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:20 PM
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Stanley:

I was in C-ville this weekend. So I didnt call you.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:20 PM
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twice.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:20 PM
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Dammit somebody at MY's told me that Summer Glau was on Fox but I switched over and no shit-kicking robot gamines.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:20 PM
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That's okay, will. I was out of town anyway. (Jerk.)


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:22 PM
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Let us build a corn-fueled rocket to Mars.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:26 PM
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We must trust our children, and empower them to eat Zoo-roni.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:30 PM
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69 see 41.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:33 PM
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We must raise the price of gas to $9.11.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:39 PM
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73 is exactly right, in all times, in all places.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:49 PM
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I only heard three minutes of the darned speech, and that was enforced listening (trapped in a car). It was enough.

What does he mean, that 116 million Americans will have to pay an average of $1800 more in taxes if his tax cuts are not renewed? I thought the vast majority of the tax cuts were for households making over $200K, and I know that can't be more than 1/3 of the country.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 7:58 PM
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The Mass is ended. Let us go now in peace to love and serve the Lord. Amen.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:02 PM
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I can tolerate no Bush. None. My tolerance is zero. I'm actually kind of agitated just reading people talk about his speech. GAH.

"The state of the union is... solid. It is the goal of my administration to return to a simpler time, a time of cathode-ray tubes and mechanical tape drives."


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:09 PM
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This SOTU address has been archived in a quivering protein-jello.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:11 PM
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I can't believe I just saw Barney Frank hug and cuddle the President.

I am not that far from Mexico. I wanna die in another country. Fuck this place.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:13 PM
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This SOTU is a gelatinous cube lying in wait for unwary adventurers.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:13 PM
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It's like, how much more of a dick could he be? and the answer is none. None more of a dick.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:14 PM
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It's like, how much more of a dick could he be?

Whisper in Frank's ear, "Just to be clear: this is not a gay hug, man."


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:15 PM
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What does he mean, that 116 million Americans will have to pay an average of $1800 more in taxes if his tax cuts are not renewed? I thought the vast majority of the tax cuts were for households making over $200K, and I know that can't be more than 1/3 of the country.

Classic GOP tax-cut flim-flam, dear Witt. That's "average" in the same sense that the average net worth of me and Bill Gates is $20 billion.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:16 PM
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What does he mean, that 116 million Americans will have to pay an average of $1800 more in taxes if his tax cuts are not renewed?

IIRC the cuts went all the way to the bottom of the rate structure, so just letting EGTRRA expire would result in higher rates for a lot of people. But even assuming his numbers are good, the mean dollar amount of increased taxes is meaningless. He's not, unless I missed something, suggesting that Exxon execs should divvy up their salaries among the general population, so why should you or I care about an average that includes their tax increases with ours?

And I assume that the only way the low-mid range of the EGTRRA cuts go away is if Congress just can't manage to pass something to extend those cuts while letting the high-end cuts expire (or increasing rates at the top end to something higher than they were pre-EGTRRA). Since they've got until the end of 2010 to get it done (IIRC), that seems unlikely.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:17 PM
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This SOTU is a gelatinous cube lying in wait for unwary adventurers.

Not sure about that, Robust. The gelatinous cube, if my D&D memory serves, has a chaotic evil orientation. I would classify this SOTU as lawful evil.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:20 PM
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Eh, Knecht got there first, but I remembered the acronym.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:20 PM
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Actually "The gelatinous cube" being mindless, are always neutral. If anyone else has D&D related questions I'll be here all week.


Posted by: Asteele | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:24 PM
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101: Okay, this SOTU is a Baatezu offering a questionable deal to unwise adventurers.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:24 PM
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I'm trying to figure out which of the enormous-headed talking heads most resembles a beholder.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:25 PM
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We already know the state of the union. It's a lie.

Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:26 PM
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I was thinking there is nobody I hate listening to more than Bush. Then Tim Russert started talking ...


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:26 PM
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Of course, Asteele is right, as a quick peek at Wikipedia might have told me.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:26 PM
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Man. I got sucked in: I wanted to see. In between the gagging, I wondered why, still, nobody has taught Bush how to pronounce "nuclear," when not to beam idiotically.

Meh. There is nothing new here. Bread and circuses. It strikes me that the assessment of the viewing public's intelligence has reached a new low. Perhaps not.

Oh, and Sebelius's delivery was awfully wooden.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:41 PM
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Sebelius was wooden. But I love her anyway.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:49 PM
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Sebelius was wooden

Plains politicians generally are.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:51 PM
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99, 100: Ah, thanks. I misremembered and thought that the tax cuts were just for the very rich. Makes sense now.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:51 PM
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110: She'll be a real boy someday, B.

[ducks; runs away]


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:52 PM
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I'm impressed at the way McCaskill and Sebelius have come out for Obama. Two border states, and Kansas is hard-core Republican. I'm hoping they know something I don't.

Also, black dude, white babes. Instant issue.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:52 PM
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106: ZOMG. Rad. Kisses.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:53 PM
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Bush gains by mispronouncing nuclear. He's not like us.

Actually, not like you guys. I mispronounce it too sometimes. I'm a man of the people.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:55 PM
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I'm hoping they know something I don't.

That Hillary Clinton is more likely to energize their home state crazies than Obama?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 8:57 PM
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Than Obama would. I'm not sure how much Clinton energizes Obama.


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113: Rowr.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:00 PM
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Yes, feminists have now descended below African Americans on the kiss-of-death scale. Below feminists are Muslims, and below Muslims are atheists like me.

Sebelius and McCaskill were also saying that they didn't want no populism, even from a honky dude.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:03 PM
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Fortune smiles upon thee, thou hast found the unwise tax cuts!


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118: Rowr.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:06 PM
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Also, black dude, white babes. Instant issue.

And indeed is it annoying. Obama's cute, but way too skinny for him to command my vote on looks alone.


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America isn't ready for a president with ghetto booty, Cala.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:15 PM
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way too skinny

I'm sure he's girthy where it counts, Cala.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:16 PM
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I say way too skinny too. But you know, there's the all-important gym vote, and then there's the anorexic vote.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:18 PM
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way too skinny

It suddenly dawned on me why Jackmormon is so into him. Damn I'm slow.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:18 PM
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His skinniness is yet another way Obamer defies the cautious middle-American's stereotype of a black politician.

You certainly couldn't do a caricature of him with a gold watch-chain and a pompadour.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:19 PM
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A question that was mooted at my office during lunch a few days ago: Who would you rather do, Edwards or Obama?


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:22 PM
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"whom"

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Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:23 PM
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It'd be a tough call. Am I permitted to ruffle Edwards' hair?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:23 PM
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News flash: The beloved longtime leader of the Mormon religion has died at age 97.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:23 PM
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For those of us into niche stereotypes, Obama is definitely East African rather than West African. I barely suppressed a racist marathon / steeplechase joke just now.

NOTE: At any given time, about half the world's best steeplechasers are Kenyans.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:24 PM
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Bave: is this question a set up to allow mcmanus to tell us either way we're fucked?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:24 PM
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131: absolutely not!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:25 PM
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130: At my office, we prefer our interrogative pronouns in the casual case.

131: What else would sex with Edwards consist of?


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:25 PM
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NOTE: At any given time, about half the world's best steeplechasers are Kenyans.

Not horses?!?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:25 PM
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and below Muslims are atheists like me.

Unless they hate on Muslims. Then their stock goes through the roof. Maybe you should become an even-the-liberal, John.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:25 PM
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Ack, 135 and 136 contradict! Though this heuristic doesn't seem to work, because I wanted to vote for Dodd and he is not hot.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:26 PM
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News flash: The beloved longtime leader of the Mormon religion has died at age 97.

The new guy is possibly even more beloved, and he's only 80.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:26 PM
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Though this heuristic doesn't seem to work, because I wanted to vote for Dodd and he is not hot.

He's got some meat on his bones, at least.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:29 PM
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Since 1988 the best steeplechasers have all been Kenyan with one Moroccan exception. (The Qatari is really Kenyan).


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:29 PM
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He's got some meat on his bones, at least.

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:30 PM
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Wow, Bronislaw Malinowski still holds the Polish record for the steeplechase. Also, I sincerely thought it was only a horse-racing event until just now.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:31 PM
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Different Bronislaw, not the anthropologist.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:32 PM
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That's what you think. Clearly running on his lunch break between exams, like Roger Bannister.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:33 PM
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Getting back to Obama, he truly spans two worlds, having the slow-twitch muscles of the East African, but playing the basketball beloved by the West African.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:38 PM
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147: Yes, but, since he is not descended from slaves, he sadly lacks the evolutionary advantages of generations of selective breeding for strength and endurance.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:40 PM
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Who would you rather do, Edwards or Obama?

Definitely Michelle Obama.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:53 PM
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148: But, Kenyan! They win marathons. Surely he's good for the long haul.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:54 PM
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He looks really good in a suit, which is rare for a skinny guy with no shoulders to speak of.

Or maybe I'm projecting my hope that skinny guys with no shoulders to speak up can grow up to look good in suits. Truly, I have the whirlpool eyes.


Posted by: ixnaythemetier | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:55 PM
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Suits were invented to give skinny guys shoulders.


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I guess 150 answers 129.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:57 PM
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To be perfectly honest, I hadn't thought about it and even though I am young and naive, it hadn't crossed my mind. That said, Obama's younger and Edwards is practically my dad's age.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 9:59 PM
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Obama has shoulders.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:03 PM
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Wee thin ones. If national security depends on arm wrestling, we're screwed.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:04 PM
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If national security depends on arm wrestling, we're screwed.

Bullshit. Obama could totally take Putin in a fair fight. Or Kim Jong Il. Or Amahdinejad.

Of course, with Putin it wouldn't be a fair fight.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:08 PM
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Obama is wiry. I know the type -- stronger than he looks!

But Putin knows Judo. Also, he doesn't smoke. He'd take it to the ground and have Obama panting for breath.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:10 PM
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Lolwut? Putin is a judo master. He's like David Lo Pan.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:10 PM
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pwnt


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:10 PM
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Obama is definitely East African rather than West African

Obama is exactly as Scandanavian as he is African. The one thing you can be sure he isn't is descended from black Americans.


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159-160: you added that he was a Judo master, which I hadn't said. I think Putin's a black belt, right?

The only guy who could take him in American government is Harry Reid...ex-boxer! Or Cheney would just shoot him in the face.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:14 PM
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158, 159: All right, be that as it may, Obama and Gordon Brown could kick the asses of Putin and Lukashenko in a no-holds-barred tag-team match. Until Lukashenko hit Brown with the chair, and then the two of them would start double teaming Brown, but then Obama would come diving off of the turnbuckle and then pile-drive Putin, as the crowd went wild.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:15 PM
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The one thing you can be sure he isn't is descended from black Americans.

Well, now, that's a relief!


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:16 PM
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I refuse these false "choices." I demand both Edwards and Obama.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:17 PM
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I am informed by my redneck of a husband that armwrestling is all about technique and engaging the chest muscles rather than brute arm strength. (Compare pushing your arm sideways vs. pulling towards yourself.) So we need to compare not merely armstrength, but the candidate's best bench press.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:19 PM
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Putin has muscles. Some closeted newsperson was raving about them.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:20 PM
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166: Dibs on towel duty during the clinical trial.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:21 PM
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You're damn right, John. The crypto-fascist Canadian press has been glorifying him.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:21 PM
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If national security depends on arm wrestling

The GOP would never have nominated Bob Dole.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:22 PM
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What does he mean, that 116 million Americans will have to pay an average of $1800 more in taxes if his tax cuts are not renewed? I thought the vast majority of the tax cuts were for households making over $200K, and I know that can't be more than 1/3 of the country.

Come 2010, average tax cut for millionaires = $157,000 per household, average tax cut for households earning $50-75,000 = $1,200 per household.

45 percent of total tax cuts will go to families making over $200,000, about 70 percent to households earning over $100,000.

In 2010 Federal government will spend about $135 billion a year just in tax cuts for households earning over $200K, more in later years.

Dems can get plenty of $ just from cancelling tax cuts at the higher end.

Handy table:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?DocID=1482&topic2ID=40&topic3ID=81&DocTypeID=1


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:26 PM
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If only attitudes toward disability had been more evolved, FDR could have developed the massive forearms to defeat Nazism with a single blow and had strength to spare to more deeply entrench the New Deal.


Posted by: ixnaythemetier | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:28 PM
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You know, "not spending the tax payers' money on stupid wars" would be an excellent, sound fiscal solution. I'm fine with my tax rate. I'm not fine with what I'm getting for it.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:28 PM
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170: You're going straight to Hell, but that was worth it.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 10:39 PM
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Maybe that's why he never chaired the Armed Services Committee.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-28-08 11:39 PM
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i want to fuck obama girl

i think its possible because the last time i did that 'what celebrity do you look like' web site obama was my no.2 look-alike


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 12:26 AM
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It's only in the Constitution because they didn't have CNN or AP in the 18th century.

The SNAFU address is not in the Constitution. The Constitution says: "He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union". He could do that by email if he wanted to. Doesn't have to be every year, either.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 3:30 AM
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170, 174: True story: I attended a Bob Dole speech where the guy introducing him ended with this: "Let's give a hand to Bob Dole."


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 4:28 AM
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I went to a party at which we played SOTU Bingo, and won when the president finally busted out with "De-Baathification." Never thought it would happen he'd be able to pronouce it.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 5:49 AM
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A performance of "Up Where We Belong" would've been more entertaining than that speech.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 8:13 AM
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180: Especially if it was Cheney and Pelosi doing the duet.


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162: The only guy who could take him in American government is Harry Reid...ex-boxer! Or Cheney would just shoot him in the face.

Two years ago we could have had Jim Jeffords, black belt of Tae Kwon Do, square off with Putin, but he didn't run again in 2006. Too bad.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 8:25 AM
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The first few UFCs proved conclusively that grappling arts like judo beat karate or Tae Kwon Do.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:05 AM
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Jim Jeffords, black belt of Tae Kwon Do

I never knew that. Vermonters are full of surprises.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:10 AM
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The first few UFCs proved conclusively that grappling arts like judo beat karate or Tae Kwon Do.

But firearms trump them all. I say we put Jim Webb up against Putin, 'cause Webb packs heat.


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The first few UFCs proved conclusively that grappling arts like judo beat karate

But does the empty hand of karate beat the empty orchestra of karaoke? Void against void: herein lies true wisdom.


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