Re: Kobe

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Linky no worky.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 2:54 PM
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Isn't that mostly a rule against running gags? I mean, once you're saying anything at all, sentences aren't going to duplicate -- here, you'd mostly just eliminate "[X] is banned!" for any x who's been here for a while.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 2:56 PM
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Here you go, Cala.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 2:56 PM
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Thanks, Cala. Fixed?

(herf)


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 2:59 PM
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Fixed. (aggggggh oh noes the bots got me help!!!!)


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:00 PM
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Ouyay ouldcay yalways yuse igpay atinlay.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:02 PM
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2: Or so the mullahs would have you believe.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:03 PM
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Baseball sucks.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:03 PM
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This is not the sub aqueous sex blog.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:03 PM
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7: Racist.

But in jokes are good in moderation. They establish community.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:04 PM
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So no quoting previous comments to respond?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:05 PM
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If would be fascinating to see a log of sentences rejected for non-uniqueness. (Assuming LB isn't right, which I think she probably is.)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:06 PM
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Just keep adding s's to dessserts.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:08 PM
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"Yields a rejected comment when appended to its quotation" yields a rejected comment when appended to its quotation.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:10 PM
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11: It's a suggestion for an IRC channel.

The usefulness of any one moderation technique depends almost entirely on the community being moderated.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:10 PM
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Heebie is the tiramisu of deserts.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:10 PM
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11: We could say that every instance of a nonunique sentence after the first one be in italics, thus also enforcing a style guide.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:10 PM
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Will is the Choco-Taco of deserts.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:13 PM
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I have four and a half hours of class today and two hours of meetings, my back hurts, and I'm turning forty tomorrow. Can I cry quietly in my office?

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Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:19 PM
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Gratuitous googleproofing would be an endrun around the prohibition, but that may be a cure worse than the disease.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:21 PM
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Just like an academic to want to cry about a six-and-a-half hour day. </dsquared>


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:22 PM
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Can I cry quietly in my office?

Only if you hand in your Man Card first.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:24 PM
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Would chalk helpy, Rob?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:26 PM
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20: Apparently the code ignores punctuation and recognized pseudonyms, so I presume it ignores most symbols.

Seems like a recipe for no in-jokes and long sentences. I like brevity to be a possibility.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:27 PM
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I like brevity to be a possibility.

If that truly is your preference and you do not merely put us on by way of making a joke, then I would beg your permission to proffer the suggestion that your choice of blog your custom with which to favor constitutes, shall we say, a counterexample to the theory which models human action with that of rational utility maximizers, provided of course that there are no extenuating factors yet to be identified.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:34 PM
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12: Agreed; I think it would be 25% in-jokes, 70% short/stock comments, and 5% surprising convergent evolution.

Am I the only one who doesn't know what an IRC channel is?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:34 PM
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You know, I have a terribly hard time remembering 'helpy-chalk' isn't a real name. It's close enough to plausible that I have Rob filed as a realname commenter in my head.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:34 PM
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This is not a test.
This is not a test.
This is not a test.
These sentences are not identical.
This joke is so Saturday.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:38 PM
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What Ben said.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:43 PM
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Ben, I can't understand what you're saying with that snorkel in your mouth.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:44 PM
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Will is the Choco-Taco of deserts.

Mmmmm so good.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:45 PM
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Couldn't you just put a series of nonsense words at the end of each sentence Quadragesima? You could just go through some text or another in order Quinquagesima. Every sentence you use will be available for later use Sexagesima. Easy. Or you could just tag particular sentences that you think you might want to repeat Septuagesima.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:45 PM
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27: My real name *is* readily available.

Oh and dsquared ogged, four and a half hours in class is four and a half hours *on stage*. I've still got another performance at 7. I'm tired, and cranky. In the big picture, I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:51 PM
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"Easy Ash Wednesday", I mean Lent I.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:51 PM
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33: Well yeah, I know it. I still did a doubletake when you emailed me about that strike post, remembering that your name wasn't H-C.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:52 PM
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is four and a half hours *on stage*

Yeah, but they're shoving dollar bills in your garter, right?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:53 PM
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32: xkcd anticipates your objection:

A: Of course. The moderator has plenty of holes if you're acting in bad faith. But if you're doing that, why are you in the channel at all? Folks who persist in doing this anyway earn (like any spammers) a prompt manual ban.



Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:54 PM
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30: That's no snorkel.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:55 PM
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It was, in fact, the first objection he anticipated.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 3:58 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't know what an IRC channel is?

Yes.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 4:00 PM
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This type of approach has a lot in common with the first half of some data de-duplication and network acceleration techniques. Basically you identify whether you've already seen (or more precisely already seen and cached) a unique chunk of data. If it is cached, you merely store or transmit a much smaller pointer/unique identifier and rebuild all of the data on the other end (network case) or upon data read (storage case).

And of course the principle is embodied in this old joke. (Which will henceforth be known as "373".)

... some guy stands up across the room, says, "96!" and they all break up laughing. The guy turns to his friend, says, "What was that all about?" "They have a code worked out, there's a number for every joke. Go ahead, try it." New guy stands up and goes, "44!" Dead silence. Turns to his friend, says, "What happened?" Says, "You told it wrong."


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 4:02 PM
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25: Comma cocksucker.


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 4:02 PM
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26: Easily corrected.


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 4:05 PM
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41.3 - So the next day, the guy's down in the cafeteria, and one of the lifers looks up from his dinner and say, "831." There's a long pause, and then everyone starts laughing, even a couple of the guards. And the guy's friend finally catches his breath, wipes a tear from his eye, and says, "Christ, Paulie, I never heard that one before."


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 5:11 PM
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44: 615!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 5:13 PM
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"831."

I don't get it.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 5:26 PM
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I don't get it.

Neither do I, I get the Post-Gazette.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 5:30 PM
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Feminists have no sense of humor.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 5:31 PM
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Feminists have no sense of humor.

God, asshole.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 5:33 PM
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God, asshole.

Starting a new religion?


Posted by: NĂ¡pi | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 5:45 PM
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She's already got us worshiping her butt; now she wants us to focus directly on her asshole for veneration, just to see if we will do it.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 6:20 PM
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Want to drink the kool-aid?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 6:25 PM
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ew.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 6:26 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't know what an IRC channel is?

On Friday I said to a friend that I have been stunned in the last five or so years to realize that it is now possible for people to have a complete or at least very active online life and yet know nothing about the underlying technologies or the history of those technologies. I'm not adjusting well to the era in which everyone is on my Internet and that era is never going away.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 6:34 PM
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Eternal September, RMP. Kinda scary, isn't it?


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 6:53 PM
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Shorter 54: N00bz!


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 7:02 PM
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54: du0d that's been true for like 10 years easy.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 7:04 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't know what an IRC channel is?

1001


Posted by: Generally Bi- | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 7:53 PM
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Eternal September, RMP.

It hasn't been September for a while, Witt.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 8:11 PM
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xkcd is lame.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 9:10 PM
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60: Well there you have it. I was wondering what to think.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-08 9:21 PM
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I managed to play for a couple of hours on that channel and only got banned three times. My excuse is that I was researching a piece. There wasn't much said that was interesting, though. It was more of a game played within already well-understood anti-troll rules than anything else.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 02- 5-08 1:07 AM
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33: see and raise, chalk-person. Last Monday I reached my hotel in New York at 0100, started at 0700 with a breakfast presentation, had a total of eight hours on stage before catching the last flight out to Denver, where I had an 0630 meeting the next day. On the other hand I have now totally sorted out my back problems, so you totally have my sympathy about that. Happy birthday, by the way.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 02- 5-08 2:50 AM
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It's Shannon information theory; information is what is unexpected, so you can filter the rest.

BTW, the log of sentences rejected is of course the entire past corpus of xkcd chat. I wonder what the theoretical limits of this are: at what rate of unique content generation would you reach the point at which the lookup would take long enough to spoil user experience before some reasonable bound?


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 02- 5-08 5:58 AM
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64: the log of rejected sentences sorted by frequency would be interesting, though; a measure of the pervasiness of various banalities and in-jokes.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 5-08 6:25 AM
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started at 0700 with a breakfast presentation, had a total of eight hours on stage

Pfft. Money? Children's educations? Try doing that when a person's freedom is on the line.

Check.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 02- 5-08 6:33 AM
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ages 13, 25, 37, 49 and so on +12 yrs are considered risky yrs, one usually experiences accidents, illness, misfortune or death
the preceding yr is even riskier and the birthday week is the most critical one


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 02- 5-08 10:29 AM
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