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A sign on the wall dissuades them from thinking they're the next Ingmar Bergman: "We do not film the air. We film people in a bordello having sex."

I don't even know what to say.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 12:50 PM
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Clever.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 12:51 PM
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No matter how creepy I try to be, some European is always going to go one better.


Posted by: ptm | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 12:53 PM
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It's weird. It does seem doubly creepy that it's free for the john. Like, "Any old grubby shmuck can walk in and she has to have sex with him!" even though having to pay money isn't exactly a way to narrow down Prince Charmings.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 12:56 PM
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The article didn't say whether you could just pay for sex. I wonder whether this would fly in Nevada, since prostitution is legal in certain parts, or could people claim that it was basically just pornography and therefore protected by the 1st Amendment's free speech clause.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 12:57 PM
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In fact, it's basically half price porn. The brother owners/ porn producers only need to pay the women.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:01 PM
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That makes me feel bad.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:02 PM
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It might be good as a worker cooperative.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:02 PM
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Yes, times are so tough now that even the brothels are hurting for business, and they're forced to come up with gimmicks like this.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:11 PM
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I approve. It brings us closer to the day when everyone in the world will have an internet sex tape. That will mark the end of sex-related hypocrisy.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:17 PM
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In fact, it's basically half price porn. The brother owners/ porn producers only need to pay the women.

More like half-cost porn. They're charging quite a bit for the website.

Whether this would be legal here is an interesting question. I'd think certainly in Nevada, but in other places you might be able to make an argument that it's porn rather than prostitution.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:21 PM
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Male porn actors in straight porn get paid much less than female.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:24 PM
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Okay, so like 20% off. Still a bargain.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:29 PM
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Though now I'm wondering how you know that.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:29 PM
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Do the male clients get tested? Are they required to use a condom? Aside from the issues of personal horribleness - being a prostitute has got to be one of the most shitty jobs ever - these are major health-and-safety concerns.

Hope the camera focusses, long and lovingly, on the client's face.


Posted by: Jesurgislac | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:37 PM
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Another business in the Czech Republic does more or less the same thing for women. Ladies can attend a free male beefcake strip show, where they get all the free booze they can drink. A few female "ringers" are on hand to get the ball rolling with the strippers. The spectators' subsquent indiscretions are filmed and displayed on the internet for the world to see. The results can be sampled here [VNSFW].


Posted by: Rutherford B. Hayes | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:40 PM
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How Bohemian.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:42 PM
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Somewhat related to 15, the interviewed guy seems a little dim. Nick from Metz, France? A 36-year-old bank-security technician? But he refuses to give his last name for anonymity purposes?

Because I'm sure that there are soooo many people meeting that description in a town of 125,000, especially who take long road trips to the Czech Republic every now and again.

I mean, I suppose it stops very simple Google searches on his name from coming up with this article, until someone from around his town sees it (and I swear I saw an earlier version of this exact article somewhere last year) and links to it with his full name.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:43 PM
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10: everyone in the world will have an internet sex tape

PGD updates Andy Warhol for the 21st century.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:44 PM
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14: everybody knows that!

It's the foundation of gay-for-pay's business model.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:51 PM
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I know some American guys who did gay porn in the Czech republic, confident that it would never make it to the American market. Boy, were they surprised!


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:53 PM
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I don't know. Some male stars, like Nacho Vidal, make lots of money and star in a huge number of movies.

Maybe the emphasis on penis size leads to a winner-take-all division of male actors into superstars and stunt cocks.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:58 PM
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Portland had live sex acts on stage for awhile. The guy was quoted as saying "It's a job". He had to perform four times an hour.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:59 PM
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There goes my theory that no one knows the names of porn stars anymore because the abundance of internet porn has greatly lessened their importance.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 1:59 PM
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21: How can anyone have heard of the Czech Republic, be aware of the existence of gay pr0n and not have heard of Falcon?


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:00 PM
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It's the foundation of gay-for-pay's business model.

You know, now that I see it in this context, I no longer wonder my why Gay-4-Pay! Clown Agency went bankrupt. I really gotta learn to focus group this shit.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:07 PM
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Your problem's probably in distribution, Po-Mo.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:14 PM
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27: But how could that be? You can fit like thirty goddamn clowns in one of those cars.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:20 PM
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Hope the camera focusses, long and lovingly, on the client's face.

This is not J-slac's point, but I remember fondly the Hal Hartley movie Amateur. One of the main characters was a porn actress. There were many shots of her films on TVs within the movie; all of the shots were close-ups on her face.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:32 PM
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Not when they're buttfucking, TJ. Not when they're buttfucking.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:40 PM
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27: "We make it up in volume."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:40 PM
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30: I thought there was a way of stacking 4 high like lawn chairs on the back seats.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:42 PM
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How can anyone have heard of the Czech Republic . . . and not have heard of Falcon?

Well, see now, that first part considerably narrows the pool right there.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:45 PM
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So, which of our European commenters is going to try this out?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 2:55 PM
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They should be deputized as reporters first so that their scruples about prostitution won't stand in the way of their research. We have a pretty PC readership compared to some sites I could name.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 3:06 PM
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isn't this behind the idea of "be the mask"


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 3:41 PM
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I know some American guys who did gay porn in the Czech republic, confident that it would never make it to the American market.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 4:14 PM
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There goes my theory that no one knows the names of porn stars anymore because the abundance of internet porn has greatly lessened their importance.

If that was your theory, you've missed a number of Ogged's posts/comments.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 4:18 PM
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If that was your theory, you've missed a number of Ogged's posts/comments.

Alternatively, I've blocked them out of memory, or don't consider ogged a person, or was exaggerating when I said "no one".


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 4:52 PM
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Ha, somehow my mind had interpolated "male" in front of "porn stars" in w/d's comment; maybe to make it plausible.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 4:59 PM
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So, which of our European commenters is going to try this out?

You don't have to announce it here. Just, when you do go, give your name as "Ben w-lfs-n".


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 5:12 PM
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No good, Ben will use his cock database to figure out who it is.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 5:13 PM
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Back to Nick from the story; maybe this was already obvious to everyone else but with this guy's driving time (8 hours each way), the cost of gas, food, and lodging...he ain't doing this because the sex is free.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 5:22 PM
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I once spent four days in Amsterdam trying different prostitutes. All native Dutch women to avoid the whole human-trafficking problem. Overall, a terrific time. Sexual variety rocks, and then there was one experience that I will likely always remember as one of the richest and most pleasurable sexual encounters of my life.

Had the experience, probably won't try it again. It would be tricky and expensive to integrate into regular life. Putting a video of it out on the web seems like a bad, bad idea in oh so many ways. Even posting about it here probably not wise, so I'll stop now.


Posted by: bet your ass I'm presidential | Link to this comment | 02-15-08 8:13 PM
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