Re: I Don't Know Anyone Like This.

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Particularly not myself.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:01 AM
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b.wo.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:10 AM
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I don't know anybody who knows anybody like this.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:11 AM
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All of you are wrong! On the internet!


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:12 AM
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STANLEY!!!


Posted by: eekbeat | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:15 AM
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4: No, you're wrong on the Internet! Just like [Hillary/Maureen Dowd/John Bolton/The Knights Templar/former Times pop music critic Ann Powers/that Battlestar Galactica/i> guy/the flat tax]!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:20 AM
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i thought BW particularly is a non-judgmental and tolerant being


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:25 AM
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6: I agree that i>guy[sic] is very wrong.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:27 AM
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On the internet!

24/7!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:28 AM
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That is awesome.


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:34 AM
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Shaye Saint John still freaks me the fuck out.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:37 AM
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This is all missing the point. The very raison d'ĂȘtre of the internet is to be a virtual Library of Alexandria of wrong.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:41 AM
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Meanwhile, this xkcd strip manages to be both confusing and depressing at the same time, all without being wrong.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:45 AM
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Shaye Saint John still freaks me the fuck out.

Maybe you're more of a Goddess Bunny sort of guy. Or pequeña Adriana.

Different strokes 'n all that.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:47 AM
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Maybe you're more of a Goddess Bunny sort of guy.

For once I completely agree with a YouTube comment: "nigga whaaaat"


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:51 AM
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13: An unprecedented number of people signed on to the forums after that strip (or so it seemed by the reactions of the regulars), wondering if the artist was okay. I was almost one of them.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:55 AM
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Yeah. The forums aren't on my radar, so I wouldn't have thought of that, but I was worried about him too.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:56 AM
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xkcd funfact:

When this comic was written on Jan 13, there were 2 google results for "died in a blogging accident". AOTW, a little over a month later, there are 48,300.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 10:17 AM
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I love 9 so much I can't stand it. That reminds me of quite a lot of video art from the early days of broadcast tv.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 11:14 AM
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We need to understand and take seriously the perspective of people who are wrong on the Internet, in as calculatedly even-handed a manner as possible.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 12:45 PM
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Your blog has gotten really technical lately, Tim.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 12:54 PM
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I think I need to talk more about comic books or something. Political discussions are really depressing me in exact proportion to a candidate that I actually like apparently succeeding.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:21 PM
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Check your URL, Tim.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:23 PM
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Plagiarism! You got that from Susie, didn't you? (But where did Susie get it from?)


Posted by: swampcracker | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:26 PM
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That cartoon isn't funny. People who have arguments on the Internet are trying their best to intervene politically by changing hearts and minds. It's democracy in action, and sneering at it just seems wrong to me.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:29 PM
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I posted 25 before reading other comments, and I'm relieved to find that I am not fully pwned -- though Tim Burke's comment may count as a tangential pwnage.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:33 PM
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Is 26 a joke? I'm a boring and earnest person, so it's hard for me to tell.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:35 PM
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Fuck, I meant 25. I'm already self-pwned.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:38 PM
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That cartoon isn't funny. People who have arguments on the Internet are trying their best to intervene politically by changing hearts and minds. It's democracy in action, and sneering at it just seems wrong to me.

Yes, exactly. They are just trying to do a little good in this cold, cold world. However misguided and ultimately futile their efforts may be, mocking the effort is just so horribly cynical and fatalistic.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:39 PM
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Tim's and Adam's comments are the same conceptually, but are refracted through different sets of concerns and personal styles.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:39 PM
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URL fixed. You can't be wrong on the Internet if no one can find you.

Or can you? Hm. Tree, forest, sound?

Wrong, Internet, 404 not found?


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 1:49 PM
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28: It's clear to me that you don't understand the concept of "pwn."


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 2:30 PM
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28, 32: Yeah watch it. Adam is in charge of our collective sense of humor now.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 3:50 PM
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"... People who have arguments on the Internet are trying their best to intervene politically by changing hearts and minds. ..."

Actually most people arguing on the internet are more interested in scoring points than changing minds.


Posted by: James B. Shearer | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 3:54 PM
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34: Not exactly. I may not be trying to convince the actual people I am arguing against, but I am trying to make my position look like the correct one to other people who are undecided and are watching from the audience.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 3:58 PM
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You're wrong, Shearer. Now where's my book. +1 for me, -1 for Shearer...


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 3:58 PM
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33: That's cool. I'm humorless ™ myself, so someone's got to be managing things.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 4:04 PM
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34: That's such a cynical overgeneralization. These are really well-meaning people, and if they occasionally fail to live up to their own high standards, you want to piss on them? Why don't you just cut to the chase and kick a puppy?


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 4:06 PM
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(1) People who engage with others' errors on the internet are performing a valid and useful service,

and

(2) the cartoon is funny.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 4:48 PM
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I would thank you all for your kind thoughta, but Im trying to stay invisible.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 6:16 PM
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39.2: What? The comic is poorly drawn -- not to mention heavy-handed.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 6:55 PM
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41: it's tough to draw when you can't get your hands off the floor, Mr. Critical.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 6:59 PM
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That cartoon isn't funny. People who have arguments on the Internet are trying their best to intervene politically by changing hearts and minds. It's democracy in action, and sneering at it just seems wrong to me.

Really? It makes me want to recycle.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 6:59 PM
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Is this more evidence for the idea - suggested somewhere in the archives, I think by Tim Burke - that he and Adam are very similar people at different points in their lives (or something to that effect)?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 7:15 PM
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STANLEY!!!

Posted by: eekbeat | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 9:15 AM

I would like to note for the historical record that I have read this comment a full ten hours after it was posted, thereby disproving its contention.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 7:31 PM
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I think we're both white people, at any rate.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 02-20-08 8:59 PM
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It's democracy in action, and sneering at it just seems wrong to me.

The cartoon isn't by necessity about politics or political discussions/arguments.

The cartoon (a) is hilarious and (b) makes me think that maybe the death of Usenet wasn't just inevitable but really, really good.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:21 PM
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USENET WILL RISE AGAIN! ALT.REVOLUTION.RESIST.RESIST.RESIST!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:25 PM
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Geez, peeps. Kotsko's just pissed about the defense of white people thread. He's, like, being cleverly ironic or something. And making an analogy, too!


Posted by: NickFranklin | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:31 PM
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How did that white person thread end anyway? Are people still talking about cheese?


Posted by: Barbar | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:36 PM
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50: I don't know, but it's pretty clear--from his own blog, among other things--that Kotsko feels Unfogged, as a whole, embarrassed itself by jumping to the defense of white people and the things they do in its critique of the humor in the original blog. I'm not sure exactly what I think about the whole debate (though I am sure that I'm not interested in reopening it); I just wanted to point out to those responding to Kotsko as if he were writing in earnest are being trolled.


Posted by: NickFranklin | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:50 PM
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Yeah, well I basically agreed with Kostko on the point he's making here. Then I brought up cheese and people finally changed the topic (on the surface).


Posted by: Barbar | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:58 PM
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48: Try telling that to the screen-washed miscreants of alt.sex.hello-kitty.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 9:19 PM
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