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This is the guy who is against the war and whose son is in Iraq, no? I suppose I'll always be a bit suspicious, but if you're going to have a change of heart, that's a pretty explanation for it.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:30 PM
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This is the guy who is against the war and whose son is in Iraq, no?

Dunno.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:33 PM
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2: Google doesn't immediately indicate that it is, so I'm guessing that I made a mistake, and it's someone else. So now I'm suspicious again.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:37 PM
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Hell of suspicious. This is a lie, somehow.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:39 PM
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It's possibly a lie, but one that gives him a graceful out. McCain is Bob Dole all over again. It's a year that Repubs know they don't have a chance, so might as well give the over the hill guy his shot to shut him up.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:44 PM
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Wait, why suspicious? If it's a lie, it surely seems like one that's really damaging to McCain. One of his senior advisors is promising to quit because he likes the opposition so much??


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:47 PM
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They are always lying, but that doesn't mean there is no truth.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:54 PM
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5: I agree. A Clinton surrogate already used "Bush-McCain" the other day.


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 5:59 PM
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Bad thing. Bad thing. BAD THING.

Repubs been grooming Manchurian Obama for thirty years. Must check out Hawaii childhood. There will be a playing card or obscure melody...


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:03 PM
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McManus is starting to scare me with how far he's lost it. Come back to the light, Bob!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:04 PM
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Via Kaus?


Posted by: BBG | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:09 PM
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10:You do understand I have punched the big 'D' every two years since 1972?

(Except for those institutionalized seasons)

I gotta wear shades.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:11 PM
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Just what I'm readin' this very moment.

"Tocqueville
had explained how democracy creates isolated individuals who increasingly
resemble the inhabitants of the hypothetical state of nature. Their very root-
lessness will, if unchecked, give rise to a collective psychopathology that leads
straight to despotism, albeit a despotism that may embrace democratic pro-
cedures and reflect the popular will. Without discussing contract theory,
Tocqueville implied that it embodied hidden dangers. This theme is taken
up by Taine, who also wanted to explore the dark forces unleashed by modern
individualism.

What makes contract theory so terrifying, according to Taine, is its doctri-
naire commitment to universality."

...Against the Masses


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:20 PM
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Repubs been grooming Manchurian Obama for thirty years. Must check out Hawaii childhood. There will be a playing card or obscure melody...

Bob's been reading Alameida's other blog, I guess.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:21 PM
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Bob's kidding, right? Right?


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:24 PM
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Bob's trolling. Bob's always trolling.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:26 PM
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I just want to know whom Obama is gonna shoot.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:32 PM
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With respect to the Manchurian Candidate, it's worth recalling that the actual Manchurian Candidate wasn't the brainwashed guy, it was his idiot stepfather.


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:34 PM
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17: Jason Patric.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:35 PM
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Me troll? As if I wasn't a Very Serious Person:

"Taine argues that the 'loner' who
emerges from the state of nature is far from rational, let alone benevolent.
Freed from the custom of deference to his intellectual 'betters', absorbed in his
efforts to earn a living, which are unlikely to stimulate his mental faculties to
any significant degree, he is inclined to think like an 'imbecile'--particularly
with respect to public affairs" ...Against the Masses

I know you're dying to know how the book turns out...


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 6:37 PM
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I guess I killed another thread, and I get the feeling y'all don't want to hear from Gustave Le Bon.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 8:48 PM
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Gustave Le Bon

A friend of mine saw him split his leather pants wide open when he tried to squat at the edge of the stage during one of the concerts on their "comeback" tour a few years ago.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 9:22 PM
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Way back up at 5:

It's possibly a lie, but one that gives him a graceful out.

Uh, I'm pretty sure I heard an NPR interview with this guy a couple of days ago, saying basically what the linked article indicates: he respects Obama, and the suggestion was that the McCain campaign will go nastily negative, and he can't participate in it, though he'll continue to support McCain from the sidelines.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 10:13 PM
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Is there any rule that says the Republicans have to run a candidate for president every time? Seems to me they'd be better off skipping this round and saving their money for later.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 10:39 PM
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PASS


Posted by: The Republican Party | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 10:43 PM
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Think of all the money saved that could go to the starving Africans.

Also, I've just noticed that the post and linked article mention the NPR interview; didn't sound like a lie in the hearing of it, just straightforward talk. Partisan boundaries dissolving!


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 11:29 PM
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The starving Africans are going to have to wait until we finish painting schools in Iraq.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 11:33 PM
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The painted schools in Iraq might have to wait until we can transfer electrical, plumbing, and other infrastructure basics to Iraqi systems, because half of what we've set up there isn't even compatible. Fuck: who's in charge, anyway?

'night all.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02-21-08 11:45 PM
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to the starving Africans
painting schools in Iraq
would you first fix your 3 mln! homeless, please?


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 02-22-08 6:41 AM
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Plus, giving up on the presidency would allow Republicans to focus on what they do best: legislative obstructionism. Administering government agencies, by contrast, has never been their strong suit.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 02-22-08 8:41 AM
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I think a lot of people who got involved with McCain when he was Maverick McStraighttalk have been bailing -- didn't John Weaver and one of the other architects of his 2000 campaign resign last year? (Yes, back in August.) If you're going to be working on a campaign where you don't think you'll build up a lot of institutional credibility in the GOP (since McCain isn't well-liked by party insiders), you don't like the direction the candidate is moving, and you don't think you'll win, why not look for the exits?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 02-22-08 9:57 AM
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