Re: Wire's End

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Please remind in the post that there are spoilers. Thanks.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 9:21 AM
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Hey SCMT, the post is going to contain spoilers.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 9:34 AM
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2: You bastard! You deliberately tempted me into looking at this thread!


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 9:35 AM
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Dalby is a double-agent. Sorry, there aren't really any clues early in the movie.

SPOILER ALERT! THIS COMMENT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN READ BY THOSE STILL PLANNING TO WATCH "THE IPCRESS FILE"!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 9:38 AM
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My favorite part is when Marlo gets killed. Then suddenly there's a freeze-frame, everything turns to black and white, and spectral Marlo steps out of his body. Then all the dead gangsters from the season appear in spectral form as well. Marlo does an exaggerated shrug and says, "It's all in the game!" Then the studio audience just erupts with laughter.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 9:45 AM
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I'm halfway through Season 2 and leaving this thread as soon as I hit "Post." I'm so fucking addicted to this show, it's killing me. Netflix can't deliver the damn discs fast enough, andf ucking Blockbuster only carries Season 1. Gaah.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 10:05 AM
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I am Chopper. I have two episodes left in Season 2 and Netflix won't get them here until tomorrow, but Season 2 already broke my heart and I just know it's going to get worse with a tidy non-resolution and I can't take it nor stop watching.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 10:08 AM
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7: Oh, Cala. You don't know Wire-related heartbreak 'till you've seen Season 4.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 10:28 AM
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I too am Chopper. I'm nine episodes into season 2, and I can't. stop. watching. And I don't even have a TV.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 10:34 AM
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I really liked the part where wussy white bloggers stopped calling me "motherfucker" and referring to blogging as "the Game, yo."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 10:37 AM
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No, the best part is certainly when Bunk, McNulty, and Zombie Omar fly away in a vintage car. A beautiful hommage to both Grease and Repo Man.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 10:58 AM
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I was shocked when it turned out that Templeton was the one who killed Marlo. A huge plot twist, but in context, I feel like it made a lot of sense. And I was glad that McNulty and Bunk finally got to release some of that sexual tension, though I could've done without the more graphic parts.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:06 AM
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I'm about to finish season 4, and will start jonesing for the next set of discs immediately. I'm contemplating the ethics of bringing bittorrent to bear on the problem - is it ok if I then buy the DVDs when they come out?


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:06 AM
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13: I've done that. When hit by the MUST WATCH NOW urge, I've bittorrented my longings away, and immediately ordered the DVDs in question.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:09 AM
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What are the ethics if you bittorrent them now, but were planning not to buy them but get them via NetFlix once they were released? You're still paying your monthly NetFlix fee and you were never going to pony up for owning the physical discs anyhow.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:12 AM
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Disclosure: I watched 1-4 on DVD, then signed up for HBO in order to watch Season 5. I watched the next-to-last episode last night and will probably see the finale tonight.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:13 AM
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I'm contemplating the ethics of bringing bittorrent to bear on the problem

If, say, one's local video store never had the discs one needed to watch RIGHT NOW because of the moral failings of other customers, who neglected to bring them back on time, and of the store's own feckless employees, who checked them out indefinitely just because they could do so with impugnity, that would not constitute a justification, but might nevertheless be considered a mitigating circumstance bearing on one's violation of certain social norms concerning intellectual property. Just, you know, hypothetically.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:14 AM
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15: Netflix as universal justification for piracy -- an elegant solution.

You could also subscribe to HBO for a month and watch the new season On Demand, then cancel the HBO once you're done. With Comcast Digital Cable, you have On Demand by default, so it'd just be a matter of tacking HBO on. It'd be perfectly legal and also cheaper than either renting or buying the DVDs once they come out. And it would help those of us who actually fucking want to talk about the show openly without ruining the lives of those who couldn't be bothered to catch up.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:14 AM
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the MUST WATCH NOW urge

It's not just me, apparently.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:15 AM
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Kotsko and I are the only ones who have seen all of it, aren't we?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:17 AM
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Stras has also just finished.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:19 AM
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oudemia, Want to get married?


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:21 AM
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re: 4

I watched that again recently. It's all very mid-90s to profess an admiration for 60s Caine-chic, but sod it, it fucking IS cool.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:21 AM
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22: Yes. So we can have super secret and legally privileged conversations about season 5 without everyone whinging.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:27 AM
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Wire-based pillow talk. Sex-ay.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:28 AM
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25: How my hair look?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:29 AM
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You hair look fine.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:30 AM
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24: Take it to the Being and Nothingness blog. Problem solved!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:30 AM
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27 s/b "You look good, girl."


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:31 AM
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Being and Time, hooker.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:31 AM
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"You look good, girl."

That was some scene. Some twenty minutes, actually.

In preparation for tomorrow's post, people should meditate on the Greek saying, in Season 2, "But my name is not my name" and Marlo saying, an episode or two ago, "My name is my name!"


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:33 AM
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You could also subscribe to HBO for a month and watch the new season On Demand

Huh, I didn't know that. I wonder if it works with the tivo, though. 15 is exactly the situation I'm in, in fact.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:34 AM
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I tell you one thing, I could've done without hearing that same damn Journey song.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:34 AM
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31: And Tennyson's Ulysses saying, "I am become a name."


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:35 AM
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30: Oops.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:35 AM
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32: It sort of does. There is a trick. And one doesn't get "good margins," as it were.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:37 AM
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This was probably posted already on Standpipe's blog -

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/03/09/85-the-wire/


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:45 AM
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I have seen the whole series.

Marlo had a great ending. I think two of the most important scenes that explicate the ending of the series come from my man D'Angelo. His speech about The Great Gatsby and his speech explaining chess to Wallace and Bodie explain a whole lot about change.


Posted by: Willy Voet | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:46 AM
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D'Angelo should've gone to seminary instead of trying to be a ganster.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 11:51 AM
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D'Angelo didn't try to be a gangster.

But you are right. He should have been someplace else.


Posted by: Willy Voet | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 12:02 PM
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Hey now wait one second. I recognize that Alessandra Stanley has more corrections under her name than any other writer at the Times, and her mistakes can be wildly outlandish -- getting the name of Everybody Loves Raymond wrong, say, at the time when it was the most popular show on tv -- but get a load of this:

Detective Jimmy McNulty created the hoax to make the collar, and it cost him his job only because he felt compelled to come clean.

Say what to the what now?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 1:52 PM
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41: Yeah, that makes little sense. He did have the moment of integrity where he refused to pin all the murders on the crazy homeless business-card guy, but his job was already well-lost at that point.


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 2:43 PM
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37: Black people probably like The Wire more than white people. For example, see here (also: BET)


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 2:45 PM
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41-well, clearly that's insane, but I guess if you wanted to be charitable for some reason, you could imagine that the scope of "come clean" is less than the whole world, and it'd be true in a sense.

31-Vondas, not the Greek, I'm pretty sure. The Greek's line is something like "and I am not Greek."


Posted by: potchkeh | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 2:49 PM
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41: she also said that he was new to the murder squad in the first season, which is, generously, reading outside the text.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 2:51 PM
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45: The Bunk - McNulty prequel pins McNulty's first day at homicide to 2000.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 2:58 PM
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436: well, see?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 3:10 PM
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43: You know, I wasn't up-to-date on "What Do Real Thugs Think of The Wire?" before I linked to it... It turns out, all the thugs refused to continue participating after episode 7.


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 3:31 PM
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Don't click this link (find on page for '(Andr' will find what I'm referring to) if you haven't seen most of Season 5 yet, but David Simon is claiming that a seemingly impossible physical feat from mid-Season is based on real and even more seemingly impossible events.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-10-08 4:07 PM
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