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What??!?! No story about how she snagged her hubby?


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:01 AM
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First Fafblog and now Paisley (the even stupider man's Megan McArdle). Can Den Beste be far behind?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:04 AM
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When I was in Vegas, I was secretly hoping I'd run into Jackie Parker Posey Paisley. Every time I'd pass a poker tournament, I'd peek in and check.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:06 AM
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I hear Bob is training for a comeback.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:08 AM
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Awesome. The only blogger whose name rhymes and scans.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:08 AM
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I always liked Jackie. Despite her famous "high quality man" post, she's always had long-term relationships and seemed quite cheerful about her men. So you know that in practice she must have a lot of tolerance of ordinary human imperfection. She doesn't seem to have much if any heart for libertarian mockery of the poor, liberals, etc. She's always upbeat and seems to spend most of her energy percolating away on some new project.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:09 AM
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Is this "confess a secret fondness for somebody repellent" week on unfogged?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:10 AM
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What??!?! No story about how she snagged her hubby?

More importantly, is he a Quality Man®? (The enthusiasm for WoWC does give cause for skepticism....)


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:11 AM
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The enthusiasm for WoWC does give cause for skepticism

Now you've gone and earned yourself some nerd scorn.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:14 AM
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First Fafblog and now Paisley (the even stupider man's Megan McArdle).

I think you're being unfair. For the reasons I said in 6 I think that Passey is infinitely preferable to McMegan. Years from now, when Jacqueline is a happy accountant in Las Vegas advising young libertarians that they'll do better with women if they shower regularly, McMegan will be appearing on your cable channels telling us that when you really think about it, the rich and the Republicans are always right. She'll be the "thoughtful conservative" guest.

JMPP will have an honest job in the private sector.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:15 AM
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Is this "confess a secret fondness for somebody repellent" week on unfogged?

You know, Mickey Kaus isn't all bad...


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:15 AM
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I see I missed a Camille Paglia thread! I loved Sexual Personae, but even I have to admit she's gotten pretty painful to read the last few years.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:16 AM
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That top post about wanting to play WoW with her husband is sweet. The "high quality" post was absurd, but it seems that PGD is right; Paisley ain't so bad.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:17 AM
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You know, Mickey Kaus isn't all bad...

The goats are quite fond of him, I hear.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:19 AM
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I appreciate her cheeriness and optimism.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:21 AM
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she must have a lot of tolerance of ordinary human imperfection

Then again, she was buddies with Fortuny, so maybe she just likes bad people.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:21 AM
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Hubby says that I have to be a member of the "Horde" to play with his group and I want to play a pretty character so by process of elimination it seems that my race has to be Blood Elf.

I am seized by an odd desire to purchase the game, become proficient at it, and hunt down their clan.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:24 AM
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15: Yeah, I must say that her "I'm Back" post is sweet and warm. She seems like a sort of Bizarro Megan (the good one).


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:25 AM
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PGD's opiinion is not to be trusted on these matters. He liked the Modern Love column about the woman who married the Chinese man who couldn't speak English. That was decidedly weird.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:26 AM
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I should add that she would drive me crazy if I were around her for more than 30 mins.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:31 AM
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You people are lazy readers. Ms. Paisley Passey confesses to having gotten fat.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:32 AM
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Also, it was Becks who had a friend who said 'geeks are more grateful', wasn't it? The WoW thing makes a lot of sense in that respect.

Still, she sounds happy.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:32 AM
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19: that woman was a wonderfully gallant and brave person! What is romance if it has no room for madness?

Her Chinese man also appeared to be both gallant and a bit mad.

So it was a terrific story, and such a refreshing break from the typical American conception of romance as a combination of over-rationalistic shopping and navel-gazing self-therapy.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:33 AM
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Years from now, when Jacqueline is a happy accountant in Las Vegas advising young libertarians that they'll do better with women if they shower regularly, McMegan will be appearing on your cable channels telling us that when you really think about it, the rich and the Republicans are always right. She'll be the "thoughtful conservative" guest.

No, it's worse than that. JMPP will suffer the anguish of a lifetime of accumulated experience that conflicts with her libertarian worldview: gender discrimination on the job; getting screwed over by the mandatory arbitration clause in her credit card agreement; the local homeowners association in her gated community (to which she willingly adheres, in lieu of having a proper local goverment) makes her tear down the garden shed she erected to store her SciFi memorabilia; her accounting job is outsourced to India; her catastrophic coverage plus HSA health insurance carrier refuses to renew her policy after little Milton Friedman Passey is born with a neural tube defect that requires a lifetime of round-the-clock care; her husband is injured by a defective Fry-Daddy and tort reform has blocked her access to the courts; the family has to temporarily make ends meet from hubby's disability payments, etc..

McMegan, by contrast, will see her worldview validated more and more with each passing year. Is prosperity and adulation not the just reward of the talented and industrious? Of course it is! Just look at me! Is poverty and obscurity not the just reward of the feckless? Of course it is, just look at all those poor people sitting around all day doing nothing!


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:37 AM
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23: Dude, it was creepy.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:39 AM
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I just hope that she addresses the recent Salon piece about marital sex for Christians. Let your man enter you like Christ enters your life!


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:39 AM
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24 is rather a tour-de-force, and already has me feeling sorry for JMMP.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:39 AM
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Can I be the first to say that I think this thread is appallingly sexist? My God, I think I can!!! yay me!


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:40 AM
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Most importantly, her marriage is good for the economy. The economy (real estate market) needs an increase in the number of people getting married.


Get on the marriage/divorce/livinginsin/marriage/divorce treadmill people!

For that, I like JMP.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:42 AM
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well, as long as we're confessing things, 24 is reminding me that I have a soft spot for ol'knecht, who's been pwning recently.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:44 AM
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24 is like some sort of weird libertarian Dorian Gray story.


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:45 AM
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27: Thanks, Sifu. Applications for membership in the mutual admiration society are conveniently available for download in pdf format.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:45 AM
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already has me feeling sorry for JMMP

But she'll remain chipper!chipper!* throughout it all.

*N.B. I did not write 'perky.'


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:45 AM
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oh, shit, dsquared is totally right.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:45 AM
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10, 24: I'll add to Knecht's depressing view the likelihood that McMegan will rebrand herself and appear on network television as the thoughtful liberal who tells us that when you really think about it, the rich and the Republicans are always right.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:45 AM
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The economy (real estate market) needs an increase in the number of people getting married.

No, no. It needs more people getting divorced, but with the means for each divorcé(e) to buy a house.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:45 AM
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Is prosperity and adulation not the just reward of the talented and industrious?

Can this really be the same man who obsesses over upper-class food for houseguests? Nice prose though.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:46 AM
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as long as we're confessing things, 24 is reminding me that I have a soft spot for ol'knecht, who's been pwning recently.

I'm torn between my elation at having alameida a fan and my dejection at the implication that I am repellent.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:48 AM
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jroth:

your system runs aground without marriage.

How is this thread sexist? When did dsquared become a kinder. gentler dsquared? WHY DOESNT alamedia like me!??!?!??!?!??!


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:48 AM
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34: that sodden fuckhead Hitchens can take his overingratiating monstrousness on a long weave off a short pier, too, for all I care.

There!

Sexism averted!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:49 AM
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24 was like pronouncing a curse on poor Jackie. It made me shiver. You're setting her up as the libertarian Job.

Let your man enter you like Christ enters your life!

Can you not see how totally kinky and potentially hot this is? Secular liberals are stuck with sex as just a natural form of bonding between two ordinary people.

Dude, it was creepy.

We'll have to agree to disagree.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:52 AM
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Or, wait, that fat fuck Pantload would never have gotten anywhere if not for a connected family and a placid, cowlike disposition that keeps him planted at the one sinecure available to him.

Are we getting back to gender-balanced hatin' on? I can keep going.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:52 AM
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We'll have to agree to disagree.

PGD seems to have a basic misunderstanding about the way this blog works.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:54 AM
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I just hope that she addresses the recent Salon piece about marital sex for Christians. Let your man enter you like Christ enters your life!

Oh, sure, when great poets say it in the course of a metaphorical exploration of the nature of Christ, it's fine, but when crazy inbred nondenominational American evangelicals say it as part of their efforts to offer a nominally "Christian" counterpart to every piece of crap the American consumer machine produces, it's somehow bad. That just seems shallow.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:55 AM
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PGD seems to have a basic misunderstanding about the way this blog works.

"Disagree to agree."


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 9:57 AM
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Unfogged: Where like-minded people strive to disagree!


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:00 AM
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You know what totally is sexist, though? Urban DIctionary's entry for "Camille Paglia".


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:02 AM
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47: "crazy lesbian bitch" isn't necessarily a gendered term of abuse though, is it?


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:03 AM
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FWIW, I pulled a punch in 24. My first draft read, "Is poverty and obscurity not the just reward of the feckless? Of course it is, just look at Armsmasher!"


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:08 AM
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Her WoW post was funny, but I can't really say why. She sounds like a juvenile, sexist guy's mental image of a female WoW player. I want a pretty character! And it can't be too hard! And someone else is going to be doing all the work for me anyway! I can imagine people in real life being like that, but I can't imagine any of them being a geek.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:08 AM
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Can I take a moment to hate on the IRS, the CRA, and tax treaty complexity.
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thanks.
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Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:12 AM
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39 gets it right. let's not eat our seed corn, fellow divorce lawyers and sympathizers.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:18 AM
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There are divorce lawyer sympathizers? Zounds!


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:19 AM
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I'm guessing somebody's linked to this before. Classy stuff.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:23 AM
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48 - Reread it. She's not a "crazy lesbian bitch", which would be a reductive and blinkered way of looking at the world; she's a crazy bitch who just happens happens to be a lesbian!

I wish Ellen Forney's "My Date with Camille Paglia" were online.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:23 AM
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There are divorce lawyer sympathizers? Zounds!

Indeed, there are those in our midst who have considered divorce lawyers a port in the storm.


Posted by: di kotimy | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:25 AM
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56: hmmmm, good point.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:26 AM
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Indeed, there are those in our midst who have considered divorce lawyers a port in the storm.

This comment would be much better if Di had never gone through a divorce.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:28 AM
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Re: divorce lawyers. I've been meaning to ask knowlegeable Mineshafters this question. My neighbor, a woman, was recently divorced. Near the end of the proceedings, her lawyer (a man) asked her on a date. They went out together, the divorce was finalized, they went on a few more dates, and nothing became of it.

Question: Was that totally unethical of him, or merely slimy? Could a lawyer be disbarred for that? I don't know whether they ever had sex, but chances are pretty good that they did. Whether this happened while she was still represented by him is purely speculative.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:31 AM
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How is this thread sexist?

Well if you have to ask, then you're clearly an insensitive bastard and certainly not "of the Left" in any meaningful way. Tchah, the privilege in here is unbearable sometimes (flounce).

(anyone considering "flounce" to be a slightly sexist term Clearly Doesn't Get It).


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:46 AM
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She's not a "crazy lesbian bitch", which would be a reductive and blinkered way of looking at the world; she's a crazy bitch who just happens happens to be a lesbian!

tsk, once more I find that I must combat the forces of sexism. Why can't you just say that she's a crazy lesbian who just happens to be a bitch? Or since I also feel compelled to take to the lists against heteronormativity, a crazy who just happens to be a lesbian bitch. NTTAWWT.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:49 AM
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Remember, ladies, Will is not looking at you as a piece of meat. He's sizing you up as a possible future client.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:52 AM
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Many crazies are very fine people. The motherfucker demographic is the only one that hasn't succeeded in getting on the PC gravytrain.

Animal metaphors are right out too. Sharks, reptiles, weasels, worms, and vermin are all part of the great order of nature.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:56 AM
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Can I take a moment to hate on the IRS, the CRA, and tax treaty complexity.

Oh hell yeah you can. Buddy of mine might give up his US citizenship because he doesn't want to calculate or pay American taxes and also wants to avoid being imprisoned for tax evasion should he come back here on visits.

It has to come up soon, because he's must be over the income exemption with the recent decline of the dollar to "tissue paper for Europeans" levels.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:58 AM
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From 41 and a simple application of the first-order predicate calculus, it is easy to deduce that PGD liked Sexual Personae.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 11:20 AM
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Knecht really has been pwning quite a little bit, of late.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 12:27 PM
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Can I be the first to say that I think this thread is appallingly sexist? My God, I think I can!!! yay me!

Who else would you expect to say that you think the thread is appallingly sexist?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 12:37 PM
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64: I'm paying about 4k this year to accountants to sort the mess out. Not even a little bit impressed.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 12:40 PM
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67: Great, jokes about indexicals. Next you'll be clarifying imaginary scope ambiguities.


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 12:48 PM
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OK, it's pretty far back at this point, but Cala's 17 made me laugh out loud. Should we have roving gangs? Unthugged? and hunt down our enemies and each other in Second Life and WoW? (I actually have nothing but the most general clue as to what WoW actually is. Do you shoot? Or fall down wells and find gems or what?)


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 12:49 PM
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67: Why on earth would I want to say that you think the thread is appallingly sexist, you strange little man? I said that I think it is. Frankly I can give two hoots what you think.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 1:13 PM
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59: It varies by jurisdiction. In NY, in most kinds of matters, you can have sex with the client as long as it's not payment, and there's no coercion or "undue influence" involved. But if it's a domestic relations matter, no sex allowed during the course of the representation, no matter how consensual. In DC, the rules are fuzzier--basically, sexual relations with a client are frowned upon as likely entailing a breach of fiduciary duty (which would make it a violation), but not categorically prohibited.

The ABA's model rules are more stringent--no sex unless the relationship predates the representation--so it may be that's the common rule in other states.


Posted by: potchkeh | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 1:44 PM
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Jacqueline Passey, Megan McArdle, Modern Love, divorce lawyers, crazy lesbian bitches, sexism...what was this thread missing to go to 1000?

Maybe I'm just hung up on the past.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:23 PM
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what was this thread missing to go to 1000?

Israel has no choice but to occupy those territories.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:25 PM
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The thread needs more first-order predicate calculus.

(∀x)(∃y)(p(x, y) -> p(y, x))


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:26 PM
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People say I insist on getting in the last word.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:28 PM
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How can I not get the last word, with so many lives in danger?


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:29 PM
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76,77: I'm the same way.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:29 PM
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Good job, Sifu. Now the terrorists have won.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:36 PM
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Sorry, Walt.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:38 PM
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Oh, Sifu, you're incorrigible. And I mean that literally: you are unable to be corrugated.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:42 PM
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No, that's not true! Here, just let me get into position here...

(mmf)


(struggle)

(hurf)

... one more second...


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:46 PM
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"Last word" always works.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:52 PM
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... getting there! ...

(grunt)


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:52 PM
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"My neighbor, a woman, was recently divorced. Near the end of the proceedings, her lawyer (a man) asked her on a date. They went out together, the divorce was finalized, they went on a few more dates, and nothing became of it.

Question: Was that totally unethical of him, or merely slimy?"

According to Bob Loblaw, the ethical approach is to date her, give your associate the case and work for the husband.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 2:53 PM
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I'm so pissed at you right now for manipulating me like that, apo, that I'm going to use the only language that can clearly express my meaning:

(∀x)(∃y)(p(x, y) -> p(y, x))


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 3:28 PM
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According to Bob Loblaw, the ethical approach is to date her, give your associate the case and work for the husband.

You left out the link to the relevant entry in Bob Loblaw's Law Blog.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 4:35 PM
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I was going to, but it's a bit of a mouthful.


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the only language that can clearly express my meaning

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Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 5:43 PM
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Bah! Bob Loblaw's Law Blog blows.


Posted by: felix | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 5:45 PM
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How much law can Bob Loblaw law blog?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 5:50 PM
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Infinite law.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 5:51 PM
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Is it wrong of me to secretly hope that she does pick a Belf Hunter since Hunters are in fact one of the most crazily complicated classes to play with any skill? Oh, how little she knows! A fire-spec Mage is the easiest class of all to play: bind every key to Scorch then bang one's face against the keyboard and victory is guaranteed.

I am nerd-scorning Knecht even as I type.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 8:08 PM
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Bob Loblaw blogs law on the bog. That's how dedicated he is.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 8:56 PM
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83: Frist!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-10-08 10:00 PM
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This is the difference between my blog and this one -- I post a 100-word entry and get three comments. This blog posts a 3-word entry and gets a hundred comments.

High Quality, indeed.

The only person with a bigger comment/post ratio is LGF.

"Heh", indeed.


Posted by: Hugh | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 7:36 AM
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The last word ploy has apparently lost a great deal of efficacy since the halcyon days of the Innocence thread.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 7:36 AM
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Nonsense, apo.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 7:37 AM
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The last word is...


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 7:39 AM
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Kobe.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 7:39 AM
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97: Your nihilistic nostalgia is rejected.

We should all comment as if these were the early days of a better blog. No more need be written.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 7:49 AM
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These are the early days of a better blog. We just don't know what blog, or how early.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 7:53 AM
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I, uh... wow.

"The most prominent name in Seton Hall women's basketball history, Phyllis Mangina has been a mainstay in the Pirate program for over 25 years, first as a star point guard and then later as an assistant before assuming her current role as head coach in 1985."


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 8:00 AM
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Suddenly, a boy named Sue doesn't seem so challenged.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 8:01 AM
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Somebody's prank-calling a lesbian bar tonight.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 8:06 AM
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What part of "No more need be written" did you guys not understand.

Rewriting the Cauchy Convergence Test for blog comment threads left as an exercise for the reader.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 8:12 AM
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Time to haul out the Carp of Correction and whack a few of you miscreants.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-11-08 8:18 AM
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I've at times thought that there would a perverse appeal in a "Post Secrets" type site which consisted only of the very last comments in comment threads. A compilation of the words that stopped a million keyboards.


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