Re: Not Even The Swimmers Will Care

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Now that's being down with the heartland.

I'd think outboard motors would be decidedly more common on either coast than in the heartland.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:24 PM
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Er, I mean, FIRST!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:25 PM
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I have a few responses to that, Mr. Apo. First, I saw and heard a lot more about Evinrudes when I was in the mid-west than I have out here, where it's all about sailing and windsurfing and such. Second, "heartland" isn't necessarily a geographic grouping. And third, suck my grits.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:27 PM
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I'd think outboard motors would be decidedly more common on either coast than in the heartland.

I'd think that the typically smaller outboard-powered boat probably does better on lakes than on the open ocean.


Posted by: water moccasin | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:28 PM
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Bass boats use those electric motors. On a big lake some people have both, with the Evinrude to take you to the place where you turn on the electric.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:29 PM
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As a small-town Pennsylvania native, I'm bitter about anyone who criticizes my Evinrude.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:34 PM
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We had an Evinrude on our boat in Michigan.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:34 PM
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And third, suck my grits.

If I thought someone from the heartland could make decent grits, I'd consider it.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:36 PM
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If I thought someone from the heartland could make decent grits, I'd consider it.

Wait, I thought "heartland" pretty much meant anywhere that wasn't California or the Boston-Washington Corridor?


Posted by: Gabriel | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:38 PM
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I'd think outboard motors would be decidedly more common on either coast than in the heartland.

Which state is the Land of 10,000 Lakes again? And which coast are the Great Lakes on?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:41 PM
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Plenty of outboards in eastern California.

Plenty of 'em on Cape Cod, too, but that contradicts ogged's point and should be ignored.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:42 PM
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"Heartland" is a state of mind, not a state(s) of the union.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:44 PM
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And which coast are the Great Lakes on?

The North Coast!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 2:55 PM
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"Heartland" is a state of mind, not a state(s) of the union.

A state of mind which is defined, in no small part, by the conviction that recreational power boating (as distinct from, say, power boating for the purpose of occupational lobster trapping) is an unalloyed good and a noble aspiration for any man.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:40 PM
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A state of mind which is defined, in no small part, by the conviction that recreational power boating (as distinct from, say, power boating for the purpose of occupational lobster trapping) is an unalloyed good and a noble aspiration for any man.

Not just powerboating, Knecht. Any loud open motor will do, ie snowmobile, NASCAR, quads, etc.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:47 PM
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15: IIRC, David Brooks pinpointed the difference between the Red State and Blue State world views in the fact that the former likes to see the wilderness from a motorized conveyance, while the latter likes to see it under their own muscle power, and both groups consider the other's preference slightly ridiculous. The fact that David Brooks said it does not, BTW, make it automatically wrong.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:52 PM
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16: David Brooks said it by way of Edward Albee, among others; to associate a love affair with internal combustion with the down-home just-folks real American and nature in and of itself with crazy, tree-hugging elitist weirdos is not so great an insight.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:55 PM
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Do you mean Edward Abbey?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:56 PM
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The North Coast!

I was waiting for that.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:56 PM
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18: er, yeah.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:57 PM
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David Brooks's new book: Powerboatin' vs. Powerballin': The Two Americas Continue to Exist


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:58 PM
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One of Abbey's books reproduces an amusing letter - or what is presented as a real letter - from a fan along the lines of "While I've enjoyed your earlier work like Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? I find your more recent books like The Monkeywrench Gang distasteful."


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 3:59 PM
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associate a love affair with internal combustion with the down-home just-folks real American

I've never heard of the author or the thesis, but it strikes me as intuitively correct. The internal combustion engine was a life-altering improvement for the down-home folks--relieving them of backbreaking work and making them mobile--while its impact on the urban folk was more ambiguously positive. Electricity was great for both, so appreciation for electricity doesn't distinguish the two world views.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 4:01 PM
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a life-altering improvement for the down-home folks--relieving them of backbreaking work and making them mobile--while its impact on the urban folk was more ambiguously positive

It's not like one can hail a cab when one is in the back 40.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04-17-08 4:05 PM
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Not Even The Swimmers Will Care

True, but I do wish there was the swimming equivalent of this video of the Men's 100M finals at the Olympics from 1960-2000 played back-to-back. Takeaway: drugs work.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-18-08 7:14 AM
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