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Wow, that building right beside the light standard is really funky.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:41 PM
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Also: You can do such nice sidewalk paving in winter-free climes. I mean, you can do them in temperate zones, as well, but it's rather quixotic.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:42 PM
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This is a post about the built environment, right?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:43 PM
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What's with the tiny little bollards? Is this area at risk from Tonka Truck bombs?


Posted by: Ardent reader | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:45 PM
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That sidewalk rules. Palm trees! I miss that about L.A.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:46 PM
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Oh, that is awesome. I thought it was LA at first, and was like, uh, so?
JRoth, Tel Aviv has a neighborhood that is positively Brasilia-esque, architecture wise.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:47 PM
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Hey, I like that guy. T-shirt wearing guy.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:50 PM
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Wearing a "I heart Tel Aviv" t shirt in Tehran might be more interesting, or at least provoke morre of a reaction.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:51 PM
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That heart icon is not t-shirt standard, is it? It's curvier than the usual heart icon, I think, and the cleft at the top is shallower. Also, it's bigger than the other characters on the shirt.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:53 PM
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I bet on the back it says something like "but not the Tehranians."


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 4:57 PM
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I HEART TEHERAN


Posted by: OPINIONATED BRAVES FAN | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 5:00 PM
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Wearing a "I heart Tel Aviv" t shirt in Tehran might be more interesting, or at least provoke morre of a reaction.

At least back in 2002, when I was there, nobody really cared about Israel, except to wonder why the Iranian government was giving money to the Palestinians when the Iranian economy was so bad.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 5:00 PM
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8: D/n Sier/dski over at Orthod/x Anarch/st took a pic of himself praying at the security wall as if it were the Wailing Wall wearing tsitsis he made himself from a kaffiya. That sure was something.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 5:03 PM
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I heart the email address for 11.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 5:54 PM
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Oud-

I came to the dinner table to hear Iris asking, "So, do you think King Acrisius liked being turned to stone?"

AB found these educational vids at the library - a series of 10 incredibly-poorly animated stories of the Greek myths. Low production values, but decent retellings (as far as 23 min., low budget vids go).


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 5:58 PM
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OMG, she will love my present which was just mailed! Auntie Oudemia is TARDY!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 6:04 PM
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I thought you were going to put up a post I'd *argue* with.

Okay, here goes.

12: YOU'RE LYING, LIKE ALL THE ARABS.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 6:06 PM
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16: I was two months tardy with my niece's "big" 13th bday present. But she loved it (ipod nano), so all was forgiven.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 6:07 PM
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16: Aw, you're too sweet.

Last night at dinner, she insisted on having the DVD cases beside her so she could gaze at them - this is before she'd seen either, but of course they were "so special to [her]."

She may like Disney princesses, but by god, I did something right.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 6:16 PM
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17: Opinionated BPHD seems awfully redundant.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 6:17 PM
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19: So adorable. I may steal her. Or her name, at least (which we have long eyed, both for messenger goddesses and philosopher novelists).


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 6:19 PM
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21: It was on our short list of names from the very first time we talked about the subject, when we'd known each other scarcely 6 months. We always get complimented on it.

One of her best friends is named Millie; we always joke about them needing an Elmer and a Morris for bridge.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 6:51 PM
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Shit, I didn't see 4 before. Excellent.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:05 PM
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God, Tel Aviv looks ugly. I sure won't miss it when the Iranians nuke it.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:18 PM
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that's a flattering photo of you, Walt.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:30 PM
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That is a nice name, JRoth. It manages to be an old-fashioned name trend without being trendy.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:35 PM
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What's with the tiny little bollards? Is this area at risk from Tonka Truck bombs?

That would be to prevent people from parking on the curb. The rule of thumb in that part of the world seems to be "if I can physically station my vehicle in a particular place, I can park there." The tiny bollards prevent that.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:36 PM
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25: Why thank you, Peter. That's the head shot I use to get all of my modeling gigs.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:40 PM
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The only Iris I know is extremely attractive; thus, I conclude that JRoth's daughter will also be extremely attractive.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:43 PM
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Hands off, w-lfs-n.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:48 PM
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Thanks, Blume.

Umm, Sifu seems like a nice name, too.

???


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:48 PM
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Hands off, w-lfs-n.

Yeah, you perv. Piss off over to the child ass fondling thread.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:52 PM
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I conclude that JRoth's daughter will also be extremely attractive.

or will change her surname to a synonym for "drive insane" and become an alt-country singer.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 7:54 PM
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I have two cousins (both older than me, but on different sides of the family) named Iris. It's long been a favorite of mine as well.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:02 PM
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You impugn my motives most unfairly, JRoth.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:12 PM
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I like flower names. Almost all have taken off in popularity recently.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:15 PM
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Myrtle!


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:19 PM
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36:
Violet
Daphne
Iris
Rose? Have not seen any babies named Rose.

Petunia has not come back yet. maybe the Red Sox second baseman will inspire this name to be more popular in New England.

Dahlia would be a nice one.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:20 PM
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I was about to say that Rose is a hipster baby name, but then I realized I was thinking of Ruby. In the closely related 'precious stones' category of names.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:22 PM
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My sainted grandmother is named Rose.

Ivy? Laurel? Olive? There are olive flowers.

And there's the generic "Blossom".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:22 PM
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Lily.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:23 PM
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Lily and Violet are rocketing up the charts. Olivia's in the top five.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:23 PM
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The Myrtle and Ivy of sweet two-and-twenty are worth all your Laurels, though ever so plenty.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:23 PM
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How's Pearl doing?


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:24 PM
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Sure, Olivia. No one wants to go for Olive. Or Oliver.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:25 PM
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How about "Aster"? Is it a flower name? A gemological name? an astronomical name? No one knows!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:27 PM
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Livery!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:27 PM
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I know a two-year-old Oliver. Maybe he's three. They call him Ollie.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:27 PM
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Baby Name Wizard doesn't even have Pearl on the charts any more. Emerald, strangely enough, doesn't show up until the 19902, has a giant spike in 2003, and then falls off the chart again. Did I miss something involving a famous Emerald around that time?


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:27 PM
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Olive hasn't been helped by Little Miss Sunsine?

maybe not. Bill Simmons was making an LMS reference last week and for some reason thought the titular protagonist's name was "Violet".


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:28 PM
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I don't know anyone young named Pearl. All of the Diamonds I know are black. No Garnets, either.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:29 PM
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From an earlier thread about that name-tracker thingie, I seem to remember that Diamond had become unaccountably popular (relatively speaking). Among children of my acquaintance there are a Pearl, two Rubies and several little Lilies.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:29 PM
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Baby Name Wizard doesn't even have Pearl on the charts any more. Emerald, strangely enough, doesn't show up until the 19902, has a giant spike in 2003, and then falls off the chart again. Did I miss something involving a famous Emerald around that time?

Um.....Essence of Emeril?


Posted by: Ardent reader | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:29 PM
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Did I miss something involving a famous Emerald around that time?

Inspector Clouseau stole one for his wife.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:29 PM
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Having been in the pit in that musical in high school eliminates Oliver from consideration. It would also be a cruel name to inflict on any child of mine, since I think one would need to be non-nerdy to pull it off and I don't think genetics are in the kids' favor.

Pearl is not in the top 1000 according to the baby name voyager.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:29 PM
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The old-time names trend is big in Germany, too. I know a baby Agnes and a Mathilda there.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:30 PM
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Yeah, Baby Name Wizard, that's it. That thing is Baby Name Wizard Cocksucker.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:31 PM
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Neither is the placement of apostrophes.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:31 PM
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I think insect names are going to be the next hip area for baby names; Drosophilia, Pterophylla, Achaearanea.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:31 PM
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There was someone in my junior high named Camelia.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:32 PM
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I think it's unlikely, but it sure will be weird if my own old-fashioned name ever becomes popular.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:33 PM
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The Wizard thing is great, except that when a name barely breaks into the top 1000 and then slips back, it looks like a huge spike. I bet that's what happened with Emerald.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:34 PM
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I think insect names are going to be the next hip area for baby names; Drosophilia, Pterophylla, Achaearanea.

No way. Fossils.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:34 PM
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59 is amusingly plausible.

My parents' alternate name for me was Belinda. I kind of like it, although in later years the whole family professed horror. Nicknames of "Belly," etc.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:36 PM
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51: black diamonds!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:36 PM
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Lottie is a nice old name that doesn't seem to have made a comeback.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:36 PM
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The babies with which I have been most recently presented were named Dominic, Olivia, Dakota, and Wei Di. Draw what conclusions you will about the milieu in which I exist.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:37 PM
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Isn't it a nickname for Charlotte? (Surely pwned.)


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:38 PM
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If Lottie comes back, I hope Werther becomes popular.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:39 PM
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Lottie is for me permanently associated with the Charlotte (Lottie)/Latitia (Lettie) plot of an Agatha Christie novel.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:39 PM
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Is Lottie short for Charlotte? That's almost in the top 100.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:39 PM
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Most recent new baby among my friends and acquaintances was named Alyosha. Second most recent is named Blackstone.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:39 PM
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Dammit, Flower.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:40 PM
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Isn't it a nickname for Charlotte?

Not always. I know one (middle name) Lottie.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:40 PM
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Most recent new baby among my friends and acquaintances was named Alyosha. Second most recent is named Blackstone.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:40 PM
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Further to 68: It's interesting to see how nicknames change, though. I know many Elizabeths and some Liz/Lizzies, but absolutely no Bettys under the age of 70.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:40 PM
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Lottie is for me permanently associated with the Charlotte (Lottie)/Latitia (Lettie) plot of an Agatha Christie novel.

Me too!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:40 PM
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How about retro disease names? Aphtha, Rubeola, Anasarca, Quinsy...


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:41 PM
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Or Betsy.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:42 PM
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Beth - age 20-40.

Liz - age 30-50.

Libby - age 40-60.

Betty - age 60-80.

Lib - age 80+.

You could make a similar progression for "Trish", "Patty", "Pat", "Tish".


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:43 PM
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...Pleurisy, Consumption...


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:43 PM
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The most recent baby name with which I am acquainted is Naima Josephine [family name]. Presumably named after the Coltrane tune.

"Josephine" is another great name.

A not so great name: Eugenia.

I do like rfts' old-fashioned name.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:43 PM
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79: or Battlecat.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:44 PM
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Meet my twins, Impetigo and Lumbago.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:45 PM
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it was my understanding that "Tish" has not been used as a nickname for Patricia since about 1900. But I met one recently who was born in 1982. she does seem strikingly old-fashioned.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:46 PM
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Quinsy's a decent name. Kinda like Quincy, though. You could have twins named Aphtha and Aphra.

Second most recent is named Blackstone.

I thought you were oudemia and that's where the kid was conceived.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:47 PM
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I had an aunt, named Elizabeth, who went by "Zev". Always liked that nickname.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:47 PM
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Hey, anecdata to contribute! Our 6-mo old daughter is named Charlotte but we've been calling her Lottie, or, better, "Lots," which is a great baby name.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:47 PM
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Anybody have a good hypothesis for why parents in our society seem to be so much more willing to be adventurous with girls' names than with boys?

Also, what happened to political names? I know Lincolns and Roosevelts, but they're all 40+. (No fair claiming this is related to a decline in quality of said public figures.)


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:48 PM
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Sifu's aunt has a wikipedia entry.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:48 PM
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I know a little boy named Zev.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:49 PM
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I had an aunt, named Elizabeth, who went by "Zev". Always liked that nickname.

Zev Love X gave it up in favor of "MF DOOM", though.


Posted by: Ardent reader | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:49 PM
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Gah. Boys' names.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:50 PM
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AND a little boy named Lincoln.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:50 PM
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Friends of ours named their boy "Dashiell," so his nickname is "Dash," which I think is pretty great.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:52 PM
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I'm going to have male triplets and name them Rip, Rig, and Panic.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:53 PM
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Rip w-lfs-n would be up there with Bolt Vanderhuge.


Posted by: Ardent reader | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:54 PM
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Also, what happened to political names?

For that matter, I know someone who named his baby Woodrow. Not a good idea, in my opinion, but they didn't ask me.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:55 PM
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Iris has an aunt (by friendship) called Beth who calls herself "Crazy Aunt Betty." Not clear to me whether she wants anyone else to call her Betty.

The only Pearl I know is a basset/beagle.

Baby Name Voyager is, indeed, awesome. AB took the book out of the library. Still no help on boys' names.

FWIW, to 36, Iris is actually still pretty rare. I mean, bigger than in our various childhoods, but less common than a lot of names that don't seem very common. We're relieved that, 4 years on, it hasn't skyrocketed; we were worried that there would be a big wave, and that Iris would become the Lily of the mid-aughts.

Supposedly, my own parents were unaware than my own, stereotypically common, name was cresting in popularity. Thanks for doing the research, folks.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:56 PM
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I once heard of someone who named a baby after Harold Ickes. The New Deal guy, not his son.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:57 PM
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Peony ?


Posted by: Willy Voet | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:57 PM
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I think there is a Pearl S. Buck character named Peony. Other than that, never heard of one.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 8:59 PM
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95: we know one of those. Maybe secondhand, but still.

94: Yes! But AB hates it. Specifically, she doesn't like "the sneaky silent L," nor does she like Linc as a nickname.

It's an awesome nickname!

It's going to end up Baby Boy Roth-Wife'sGermaniclastname


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:00 PM
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"Ebola" would be such a cute girl's name.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:01 PM
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Two Germanic last names?

The first name should be Helmut, obviously.


Posted by: Ardent reader | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:01 PM
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I think "Blaow" would make a swell boy's name.

103: reminds me too much of Linc Chafee, I must say.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:02 PM
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Anybody have a good hypothesis for why parents in our society seem to be so much more willing to be adventurous with girls' names than with boys?

One ornaments the objects one doesn't consider to be useful.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:02 PM
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"Gaor" is a very ancient Breton / Alan name.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:03 PM
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"Delano" would be a neat, non-traditional political name.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:06 PM
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There's a Delano around here. Also two or three Darwins, which I think is a relic of country freethinkers 2 to 4 generations back.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:09 PM
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I think a good name for a boy would be "Broderbund".


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:09 PM
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Delano is good. Fabian seems to be having a moment. As does Hamza (muslim names are showing up in the last twenty years or so).


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:09 PM
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Amber doesn't show up? I like that name.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:10 PM
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83: That's my cat's name, and don't even think about stealing it.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:11 PM
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Also, what happened to political names?

Cough, cough.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:12 PM
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105: Helmut is the name of our theoretical German shepherd, the one who would be disappointed in our lack of seriousness, defending the homestead despite his conviction that we're not really worthy of him

Wife thinks that Georg, which is a family name, might have pronunciation problems (that's GAY-org for those of you with poor German pronunciation).

107 is all too true. Although, to be fair, if you're willing to admit of Owen, Declan, Jayden, et al, you get quite a few options that aren't much-loved among the hipster class but are damn popular.

Our problem is that most of the Iris-analogue names have become all too popular. Ten years ago, Charlie and Henry were still pretty rare, if venerable; now they're like Jason and Mike. We're left with Mortimer and the like. Elmer was my GF, plus it's Iris Dement's hubbie, but that's not winning over AB.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:13 PM
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The only Darwin I know is from Latin America. Georg makes me think of the Sound of Music.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:15 PM
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85: My mother's a Patricia, and was Teesha as a girl in the 50's. Not Tish, but close.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:15 PM
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Fabian seems to be having a moment

I don't understand this. All I can think of is Laverne & Shirley shrieking FABIAN!!!

Julius?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:15 PM
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Amber doesn't show up? I like that name.

I thought Ogged didn't go to strip clubs.

AB proposed Ambrose, which I liked, but there are serious associated issues (it's embedded in her Germaniclastname, and it's very close to our street name, which , seriously, will always be our address, so it's not like that'll change).


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:18 PM
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Fabian seems to be having a moment

Fuck that. Cunctator.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:22 PM
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i knew someone who once told me that b/c he can't pronounce my name he'll call me Ursula
i insisted on being called by my name of course


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:23 PM
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That was very tactful of you, read. I would have been much ruder.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:28 PM
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When I was a kid there were still Emils and Brunos Rudolfs and Svens and Oles around. And one Alcuin.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:29 PM
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That was very tactful of you, read

She didn't say how she insisted.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:30 PM
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125: Given how she held her temper when she was accused of being a troll here, you need to ask?

I once almost left a beauty salon mid-haircut because the owner admitted to telling his employees to use "normal" names. Like Tiffany.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:33 PM
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i did not behead him of course, and my request to be called me was rather polite
but further acquaintance sure became like impossible after that and that was it


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:36 PM
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i did not behead him of course

Well, of course. That's to be saved for very special occasions.

125: Given how she held her temper when she was accused of being a troll here

If I recall, she was accused of being a spambot. The troll thing might have been a different time?


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If you wanted to name your son after multiple malefactors, "Danilo" would work. I hope for her sake that I never have a daughter, because she'd be "Theodora" in a heartbeat.


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She was accused of both. The troll thing was uglier.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:41 PM
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130: well that's a shame, then.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:44 PM
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Well, to be fair to the accusers, read at first usually just piped up with links to irrelevant youtube videos, and then moved on to irrelevant personal asides.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:44 PM
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When I was a kid there were still Emils and Brunos Rudolfs and Svens and Oles around. And one Alcuin.

A lot of them are in Florida now. Like my great-uncle-and-aunt-in-law, Ragnar and Kristin. (pronounced Christine)


Posted by: Ardent reader | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:45 PM
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Well, to be fair to the accusers, read at first usually just piped up with links to irrelevant youtube videos, and then moved on to irrelevant personal asides.

And sometimes five or six posts within a minute, containing about three characters each.


Posted by: Auto-banned | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:46 PM
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ok, accusers, but i remember receiving a fruit basket better
so, good night


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:47 PM
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name your son after multiple malefactors, "Danilo" would work

The winner of last year's Giro d'Italia? I mean, sure, I heard he could be a little rough in a mass sprint, but that's just part of the sport.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:49 PM
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As I remember it, she was accused of trolling because of our rudeness in political discussion—lack of respect for the executive, or something like that. Now, of course, she's beloved.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:50 PM
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136: Ilic and Blandon.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 9:58 PM
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hmmm. my grandma is named iris. she goes by her middle name, which is even more old-fashioned, though.

i think i steered someone away from the baby name 'sophie' (for popularity reasons) - she ended up being clara. other babies i know: mathilda, michael, madeline camelia, leo, anthony (who is called tony), and kurt.


Posted by: mmf! | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 10:26 PM
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"Melena" sounds a jolly name.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-29-08 11:23 PM
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140: Oh dear. I know someone with that name (different spelling). I always found it quite pretty. You've ruined that.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:40 AM
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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:56 AM
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The creators of the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory believed in the revelatory power of true-false items such as "I have never had any black, tarry-looking bowel movements" or "If the money were right, I would like to work for a circus or a carnival."

Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:59 AM
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muslim names are showing up in the last twenty years or so

BTW, how did Omar Bradley come by such a name in the 1890s?


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 1:01 AM
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I once heard of someone who named a baby after Harold Ickes. The New Deal guy, not his son.

the President of the BundesbankReichsbank you idiot while Hitler was in power was called Hjalmar Horace Greely Schacht.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 1:05 AM
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For old disease names, Dropsy would be a good kitten, or maybe a kid.

I want to bring back Isadore. I've got a great-grandfather of that name, and who wouldn't want to hang out with an Izzy?

You could even call him 'Za.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 1:41 AM
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146: I. F. Stone was an Izzy. There's also Isidore Isou. Little Izzy Wrongshore could grow up to be a leftist intellectual newspaper man who detournes his own funny pages.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 2:10 AM
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I have one flower, Poppy, one old-fashioned, Matilda, and one whimsical, Tallulah. (Fortunately her middle name is Rose, so she has something sensible if she needs it.) For boys I could have had several out of the Bible. Our actual son is Elijah, but I love Isaiah, Micah, Josiah, Amos, ...

I love Lottie too, and I would have just used it as a stand-alone name, not short for Charlotte.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 2:10 AM
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148. According to wikipedia, Tallulah Bankhead's last words were: "Codeine... Bourbon", which would be lovely names for a girl and a boy.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 2:24 AM
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147: I love him so much already!

(The comics editor may think he's a butt, but I don't care.)


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 2:32 AM
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#8: Wearing a "I heart Tel Aviv" t shirt in Tehran might be more interesting, or at least provoke morre of a reaction.

#12: At least back in 2002, when I was there, nobody really cared about Israel, except to wonder why the Iranian government was giving money to the Palestinians when the Iranian economy was so bad.
Well, Ahmadinejad started his anti-Israel crazy talk in 2005, so maybe public sentiment has shifted since then.

The real political statement would be to just wear any old T-shirt in Tehran, as long as you're a woman.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 3:05 AM
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I remember reading the thread where read was accused of being Borat. Could someone point me to the thread where it was concluded that she was for real? I always thought so but I missed the shift.


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149 - Ha! She's actually named after Talulah Gosh, but spelt correctly.

I like Bourbon - I bet there are actually boys called that. I know a Candida - would be great if she had a twin sister Chlamydia.


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If you name a girl Brandy she has to change her name at age 7.

Talulah Gosh is a better namesake than the Butthole Surfers. I knew a Tallulah once, a black lady from Tallulah Alabama. T. Bankhead was from Alabama but not from Tallulah; ultimately her name traces back through her family to a town in Georgia. The first mall in Almerica was built in Tallulah; it's been preserved as a historical treasure.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 6:02 AM
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The first mall in Almerica was built in Tallulah; it's been preserved as a historical treasure.

And presumably like so many other historical treasures, eventually it'll be knocked down to build a mall. and the circle of life goes on.


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woohoo, i'm beloved! how nice
i thought that i'm mostly ignored or how, i learned, people say, marginalized
nice, JMcQ, you made my day from the beginning


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 6:24 AM
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If possible, malls eat their young.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 6:26 AM
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Scratch that. They eat their ancestors, like New Guinea highlanders, thus contracting mad mall disease.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 6:27 AM
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The first mall in Almerica was built in Tallulah; it's been preserved as a historical treasure.

We'll have to go there one day.

Speaking of the girl, she made a good (for a change - she's only 5) joke yesterday. They were watching Vacation, and the scene with the dog peeing on the sandwiches came on. Lulah piped up, "I guess he thought it was a piss-nic!" And was then completely offended when everybody laughed.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 6:28 AM
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My grandma's joke was one rabbit saying to the other "These radishes are pithy. Did you pith on them?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 6:31 AM
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BTW, how did Omar Bradley come by such a name in the 1890s?

He was born during the Great American Rubaiyat Craze, sparked by the publication of the Fitzgerald translation of Omar Khayyam.

No, really.

Flower/plant names: Daisy? Rosemary? Basil? (Basil is cheating since it's presumably from basileos=emperor rather than from the herb...)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 6:44 AM
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161(1). Makes perfect sense.

Is May for the month or the blossom? Which reminds me that, against all the odds, Blossom Dearie is her real name. Didn't get much shit in school, I'd guess.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 6:56 AM
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Also, what happened to political names?

I knew a girl named Reagan, who was named after a relative before the eponymous B-Movie actor became governor of California. She was frequently at pains to point out that her family were all good liberal democrats.

Come to think of it, I think the girl must have been a college classmate of BG.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 8:36 AM
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Our actual son is Elijah, but I love Isaiah, Micah, Josiah, Amos, ...

I find that a lot of them are too popular now, and the remainder tend to sound like old prospector names - ol' Ezekiel, comin' down from the mountains....


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:03 AM
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I know someone who gave his son the middle name Walker. That seems unfortunate.


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:07 AM
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I know a Candida - would be great if she had a twin sister Chlamydia.

No, Candida and Tenebrosa.

Or maybe Candida and Obscura.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:09 AM
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C'mon, he's already going to be toothless, just draw a beard on him, dress him in dungarees, and Zeke will really suit him!

Ezra, that's another good one. Welsh names are good too - Ianto, Ieuan, Gethin. And Dylan of course, but that's way too popular (though fine for dogs!) and I hear it's turning into a girl's name over there?


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:12 AM
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163: She was totally named for Linda Blair in the Exorcist.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:17 AM
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The only acceptable names for dogs are Prime Rib (big dog) and Short Rib (small dog).


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:22 AM
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But Ben, I have a medium-sized dog!


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:24 AM
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Get a new one.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:26 AM
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But Ben, I have a medium-sized dog!

That's what they all say.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:27 AM
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OK, funny story on the dog name (and prospectors). AB always liked the name Jasper for a boy. I never did - too prospector-ey. So when we got a new dog last fall, I sort of forced the name Jasper on him, thereby preempting it as a possible boy name. But now that we're pretty much hating all the boy names, and I've lived with a Jasper for 8 months, I'm kind of OK with the name.

My proposal is that we can name the boy Jasper if we rename the dog Argos (which name she rejected when the dog was new).

I believe that Iris is on board with this plan, but it might be a bit traumatic for the dog, who's already a bit insecure.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:28 AM
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I totally would have been up for naming one of my daughters "Eleanor Roosevelt [KR's surname]". Maybe if we have another I will insist on it.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 9:59 AM
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we can name the boy Jasper if we rename the dog Argos

Just name the kid Argos, then. Or Apo.

If I had a kid named Jasper, I would call him Jazz.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 10:05 AM
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Wait, is your surname really Roth? Then you should name your kid Gorgo.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 10:07 AM
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Is there really an old name trend? Haven't babies always gotten names different from their parents?


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 10:55 AM
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My best friends have a Jasper, it's a good name. I also know a teenager called Jaz. That's his actual name. His sister is called Ziggy.

Call him Jesse after Emerson's son (yup, I'm sticking with the prospectors). In fact there's a prize if you can manage to name him after an Unfogged commenter.

(Do you know it's a boy? Or are you just trying to be prepared?)


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 10:58 AM
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177 - no, in the olden days, there were only 4 names allowed per family, and they had to keep using them and reusing them. (Or so it looks from my mum's family tree research.)


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140: Oh dear. I know someone with that name (different spelling). I always found it quite pretty. You've ruined that. [Melina/Melena]

Again we see the pernicious effects of crazy english spelling.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:00 AM
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in the olden days, there were only 4 names allowed per family

In my dad's family, these were Robert, Joseph, Stephen, and Andrew. Until you get back to the mid-1800s, that is, when it was all Richards and Abrahams.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:02 AM
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Read, you're totally beloved.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:03 AM
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Hello.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:05 AM
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Damn tags. That was supposed to be:

In fact there's a prize if you can manage to name him after an Unfogged commenter.

Hello.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:06 AM
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ApoRoth: already taken.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:13 AM
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On topic: Some old Kinsley article I came across that's pretty astonishing. Why do people have any respect for Michael Kinsley?


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:14 AM
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I used our blog software to form that link. I knew it would take more time but it still felt like avoiding work.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:19 AM
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Lottie is for me permanently associated with the Charlotte (Lottie)/Latitia (Lettie) plot of an Agatha Christie novel.

Me too!

Same here. There's also a Lettice in her Murder at the Vicarage. I found that name distracting when reading the book/watching the tv movie. Before then I had no idea it was a real name so I kept thinking of a head of iceberg lettuce every time I read/heard it. Maybe someday there will be a vegetable baby name trend.

Re: Sophie: Our newest niece is expected to make her appearance in about a week and will be name Sofia. Although it's too bad that Sophie and its variations are popular now, I think the name fits in this case bc it goes well w/the last name, represents the mother's Italian background/family, and goes well w/the older sister's name, Gabriella.


Posted by: Annie | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:23 AM
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Maybe someday there will be a vegetable baby name trend

Okra Winfrey!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:25 AM
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Kinsley was very quick and ingenious, and he lived in a dark period when the left was almost destroyed. He maintained his relevance by helping pile on.

I think that the young, opportunistic conservatives and counterintuitive liberals of 1980 are probably feeling pretty sick recently. They should be, anyway. No forgiveness, no mercy!


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:26 AM
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In my family tree there are a lot of Nathaniels and more than one Hepzibah. And an Alpheus Dumbleton Hiams.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:28 AM
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JRoth is Lileks?


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:30 AM
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I once vowed to name my first-born son Immanuel.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:41 AM
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Speaking of Kinsley, anybody in the LA area going to attend this event --http://www.townhall-la.org/programs/register/1171

Pie? Goat questions?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:51 AM
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193: Were you planning on a virgin birth?


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182, 184 :)
now i'm beloved and people seem to promote their names
i agree to lend my name to, if a girl or a cat - Jewel
if a boy or a dog - Jewell, may be, for sounding a bit masculine


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:58 AM
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My tree has interesting names, but not terribly usable ones. A Cornelius, a Santo, an Augustino.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:59 AM
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JRoth is Lileks?

Huh?

Yes, Roth is the real sur. Yes, we know it's a boy.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 11:59 AM
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Apparently the reason for the many nicknames for John is that it would be given to multiple males in a single family


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:01 PM
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Gorgo it is, then!


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Calista was actually a common time at one time. One g-g-grandmother was a Calista Smith, but Googleing finds a number Calista Smiths, none of them her.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:02 PM
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Lileks dog is named Jasper, also. The dog is mentioned about every third paragraph.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:07 PM
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Like many Irish family trees, mine has a fractal quality because they mostly just recycled the same small stock of names from generation to generation. The upshot was that, with so many uncles, aunts and cousins with the same name, everyone had an identifying nickname based on their age, their location, their occupation, or some other identifying feature such as an amusing birth defect or whatnot.


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197: Cornelius is totally usable!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:09 PM
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202: Wish I didn't know that.

Fucking Lileks.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:13 PM
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everyone had an identifying nickname

Flipperhand John and Wheelchair John are going to visit Scabby Joe this weekend. Want to go?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:17 PM
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Flipperhand John and Wheelchair John are going to visit Scabby Joe this weekend

That was about the size of it, yes.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:18 PM
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A Cornelius, a Santo, an Augustino.

I have a Cornelius who always went by Con, and then at some point decided his name was Constantine.


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I guess most Corneliuses go by Neil? 'Cause the obvious nickname is Corny.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:32 PM
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I feel like there should be a master list of all the names that once were popular but have fallen into disuse for specific reasons, like Adolph or Kermit or Whitey. So, you know, people could name their babies from it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:41 PM
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For JRoth: From the Experience Maximizer thread, it sounds like you write for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. True? My SIL is (I think) an evening editor there (she just started maternity leave). She has the same last name as me. Might you know each other?


Posted by: Annie | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 12:56 PM
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212: No way, I'm not working for The Man. I'm a non-staff writer for the C/ty Paper. My day job is architect. But thanks for asking.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 1:03 PM
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212 has a bit of a "why are you punching yourself?" flavor to it.


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Oh well. My bro and his wife (my SIL) really enjoy Pittsburgh. And I really like visiting there. My brother enjoys coffee, and loves espresso. It seems that, wherever we are in the city when we visit, he always knows "a little place nearby" to get coffee, espresso and usually some rich dessert.


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Pubs, too. Restaurants, too. It's a wonder he's not 400 lbs.


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Re: names, I hated my name as a kid because it was weird and I wanted to fit in and stuff, and Billy Ray certainly didn't help. Then, since college, I've liked it since it's eye-catching and a conversation starter and an easy way to sniff out telemarketers. Now, Billy Ray's daughter Miley is in the news a lot. Fuck. Also, has anyone seen "Harold and Kumar escape from Guantanamo Bay"?

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Delano is good. Fabian seems to be having a moment. As does Hamza (muslim names are showing up in the last twenty years or so).

Interesting, but does "hamza" have any meaning other than the name of the letter? I mean, it's hard to imagine introducing someone by saying "Hi, I'm Cyrus, and this is my son, Doubleyou."


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 1:43 PM
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Also, has anyone seen "Harold and Kumar escape from Guantanamo Bay"?

I did. It made me suspect that being stoned was a necessary precondition for my enjoyment of White Castle.



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Interesting, but does "hamza" have any meaning other than the name of the letter?

I think it literally means "pause".


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I guess most Corneliuses go by Neil? 'Cause the obvious nickname is Corny.

Connie, like the baseball tycoon and his great-great-grandson the congressman.


Posted by: Ardent reader | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 2:44 PM
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ApoRoth: already taken.

Abazago Roth, perhaps?


Posted by: Ardent reader | Link to this comment | 04-30-08 2:48 PM
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I think it literally means "pause".

Heh, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Never mind.


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Izzy.


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Izzy.


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I hated my name as a kid because it was weird and I wanted to fit in and stuff, and Billy Ray certainly didn't help.

-- It was a great name until I was about nine years old and that no-talent assclown started winning Grammys.

-- Why don't you just go by 'mike' instead of 'michael'?

-- No way. Why should I change it? He's the one that sucks.


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Interesting, but does "hamza" have any meaning other than the name of the letter? I mean, it's hard to imagine introducing someone by saying "Hi, I'm Cyrus, and this is my son, Doubleyou."

"Hi, I'm Jay, and this is my daughter Kay"


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And my other daughter Elle.


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Anybody seen Bea and Dee Dee?


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