Mmm. Granola and chopped bananas in plain (unsweetened, obvs) yogurt is among my favorite things to eat.
I've been eating granola on and off my whole life, but it took me forever to try the addition of yogurt. So awesome! Particularly good (if fattily sinful) with brown cow. Also with Wallaby peach.
I don't know about the bulk section, but in the boxed section Bear Naked is, despite the ridiculous name, a good provider of less sugary granola.
in the boxed section Bear Naked is, despite the ridiculous name, a good provider of less sugary granola
Really? Magpie eats that stuff, and it sure *smells* painfully sweet.
Granola's also quite easy to make, though I can certainly understand why one wouldn't bother.
We, the hippies, welcome you.
The "Lite" part may have more to do with fat content than sugar content. I don't know why, but granola often has a lot of fat in it.
That said, the enemy of the proletariat sells a delicious muesli with cherries and raisins and berries in it called Dorset; you should buy it please so we throw some consumer weight around and they don't de-stock it and make me sad!
Muesli = way less sweetening.
granola often has a lot of fat in it
Nuts, particularly coconut, which is high in saturated fat.
You think granola is sugary? Do you faint when you see a dessert cart go by?
Wait, wait - my hick brain turned 'granola' into 'Grape-Nuts' for some reason. Jeez. Resume your hippie evangelism and ignore me.
A lot of granola is very sugary. And for whatever reason, the healthier the health food store, the bulkier the bulk section you find it in, the dustier the bags they provide you to dispense it into, the more communal the scoops you use to dispense it into your containers, the more sugary it is.
Except for anything labled "maple". THAT is the most sugary wherever you go, bar none.
I've settled on a couple good ones from the co-op. In one the ginger taste either replaces or (I hope not) drowns out the sweetness. And the other one has completely inappropriate cashews, but also some authentic blueberry taste.
Granola?
No thanks. I'll stick to muesli. With yogurt and a bit of honey of course.
Typical European attitude.
What makes granola granola, anyway?
It seems that muesli is similar to granola, but missing...something....such that when I pour milk on it it all sits there like a big pile of wood chips instead of mixing pleasingly with the milk.
And yet it contains grains...fruit...nuts...what's the diffference?
at least in the bulk section of that well-known enemy of the proletariat,
Oldest Living Pinko Tells All!
without comprehending how yummy, filling, and nutritious* a bowl of granola with yogurt can be.
And while you're at it, you can lounge with your pink cane with the purple My Little Pony stickers and complain about them whippersnappers that don't empathize with Stalin!
max
['You had better be slurpin' a Slurpee when you say things like this, stranger!']
delicious muesli with cherries and raisins and berries in it called Dorset
You mean this one? The one with slightly more sugar per serving than a can of coke?
Hey, it's only 41% sugar, ogged. Lay off the little lady.
OK, Ogged, now the giant puppets.
I'll stick to muesli
I just ordered some from Bob's Red Mill, which I've been meaning to try for a while now.
http://www.bobsredmill.com/catalog/index.php?action=showdetails&product_ID=258
I'm jealous, btw, of the Portland crowd for having Bob's Red Mill as a local fixture.
I was way ahead of the curve on granola, but when I went off drugs in the mid-Seventies the granola went too.
Christ, it's the middle of the night.
I work graves, and Emerson has crazy old dude hours.
I went through a granola phase in high school, but I think I've never really required an instant foodstuff that's all sugar, fat, and fiber. From my co-op's bulk section, I occasionally make myself some trail mix, with dried unsweetened fruits and nuts whatever, because I find that, if I'm all fainty, I primarily require protein, a little fat and sweetness, and vitamins. Haven't done it in a while though, now that my work cafeteria started serving inari rolls. Mmmm.
I work graves, and Emerson has crazy old dude hours.
So what's AWB's excuse? (I'm eating lunch.)
If I have insomnia I just get up and then take a nap in the afternoon. I can count on sleeping 4-5 hours at night, but sometimes not more than that.
Isn't the difference that muesli is baked or plain or raw or whatever, while granola is covered in honey and 'roasted'? Here in birdfeed-loving Denmark, I have completely fallen in love with muesli, and even manage to snob it up by finding my favorite brands, mixing in more raisins, etc. Dirty hippie indeed.
Last time I was in the States, I was delighted and appalled to find granola 'Fortified with Hemp!' at the local co-op. It was like a perfect storm of hippie pleasures.
It seems that muesli is similar to granola, but missing...something....such that when I pour milk on it it all sits there like a big pile of wood chips instead of mixing pleasingly with the milk.
You're going about it all wrong. The idea with muesli is to soak it overnight in milk (or yoghurt), with a dab or cream and lemon juice if you are so inclined. The grain softens gradually, leaving a creamy, but still identifiably textured mus, to which you can also add sliced fruits and chopped nuts.
The resulting dish (often identified as Birchermuesli) is much, much healthier than granola, which has to be tarted up with fats and sugar to make it palatable.
When I travel to D.C., I tend to stay in a particular hotel because of the delicious Birchermuesli they serve in the breakfast buffet.
It was like a perfect storm of hippie pleasures.
The surprise toy in the bottom of the box is a hacky-sack, right?
I saw a crow steal a hacky-sack once in Portland. It was a bit heavy for the crow, and it had to circle a few times to get altitude before reaching it's roof perch. I imagine that the crow was pretty disappointed, though maybe he was just a collector.
I'm jealous, btw, of the Portland crowd for having Bob's Red Mill as a local fixture.
Just down the road from where I take my yard debris. The prospect of a stop at Bob's (which is actually red, typical of local ingenuousness) is motivating me to get yardwork done.
Also I like it when the raisins or blueberries or whatever is in the granola plumps up in the yogurt.
it had to circle a few times to get altitude before reaching it's roof perch on the Unitarian youth center.
Yes! This is exactly what I said this winter when enjoying a bowl of the same. My partner just looked at me and said, "Hippie."
I never used to eat breakfast, but every day for the past five months I've been snarfing down a bowl of flax-seed-blueberry granola with whole milk yoghurt. I need the sweetness of the blueberries; the other granolas at the co-op are too punishing. It is kind of boring to eat the same breakfast every day, but if I had to make an actual decision in the morning, I'd go until 2pm before I ate, like before.
It's like nobody even noticed ogged mentioned bacon in the post!
Sure, it starts with the granola. Next, you will stop bathing regularly. Soon after that, you will be stoned out of your gourd and living in a yurt.
38: What, no patchouli body oil?
i like granolas and all kinds of cereals, on saturday for example i made and ate millet porridge
just, my gums don't like them, those crunchies
so i tend to avoid granola bars for example
41: do people really eat raw bacon in Mongolia? An acquantaince was served it once when flying first class on Mongolian Airlines, but to me it just sounds like a beautiful dream.
I was just going to recommend Birchermüsli for those worried about sugar, but KR beat me to it. Figures.
that's on the first class flight i suppose, we normal arduud do not eat raw anything and i'm afraid we'll spit it out immediately if we knew it's raw
but i like to eat sushi sometimes if it's like certified worms free
Guess it's first class for me, then.
I'm trying desperately not to admit that -- as Blume has taught me -- granogurt or whatever you call it is indeed might tasty.
Granola's also quite easy to make, though I can certainly understand why one wouldn't bother.
Mostly because it's cheaper than buying pre-made, and you can control the sugar content (and whatever else they might be putting in that stuff). Plus play around with ingredients.
It's really easy to make: takes me about an hour to make up 8 or 9 cups of granola, including baking time. We just did that a couple of nights ago! So happy!
I've made my own granola bars, which is pretty fun. I made them all gingery, with honey instead of sugar. Deelish.
They eat raw bacon in Switzerland. I went into a bar in Basel, and ordered "the meat plate", because what could go wrong with meat? Raw bacon is what could go wrong.
Fascinating! I bet it would have been delicious, Walt, if you'd approached it with the right mindset.
Seriously, depending on how it was smoked, it probably wasn't all that raw, especially given the curing process. When I make bacon at home, I seriously can't help myself from tearing off chunks of the slab as it cools down from the hot-smoking. So fricking good.
re: 48
Morcilla can be pretty raw tasting, too. Depending on the place.
You sure it was raw bacon? Rather than some sort of pancetta or ham? I've seen that fairly 'moist' before -- the whole French hams they sell at the market here are pretty raw looking. Looks and tastes like raw meat but actually cured.
48 through 52 have us back on track, with 51 bearing special mention for deliciousness.
53: Tweety, objectively pro-global warming.
54: I buy carbon offsets for my smoking activities.
Note: I don't really.
Trichinosis is nothing to worry about any more, except for free-range pork and wild boar or bear meat. Trichinosis is only occasionally fatal anyway, and often symptomless. The whole scare was just liberal nanny state stuff. Thousands are rotting in jail because they ate raw pork.
Walrus meat too. There are about ten cases of trichinoisis reported a year in the US.
if I'm all fainty, I primarily require protein, a little fat and sweetness, and vitamins.
Meat donuts and roast beef ice cream for everybody! Vitamin-enriched!
http://www.isolation.net/food.html
Granola's also quite easy to make, though I can certainly understand why one wouldn't bother.
Except it really is so much better than anything you can buy premade. Usually cheaper, too, but that assumes you aren't counting your time. Otoh, as you say, it's easier. Of course this is true of a lot of food.
Well, I make my own granola, but Ogged is never ever going to, surely.
And that's okay! Up with people!
57: Walrus meat too. There are about ten cases of trichinoisis reported a year in the US.
I wonder if that accounts for what looks to be much higher rate in Canada (still low). And despite the low rate, is it just me that given the trend from this chart why As of January 2000, Trichinosis has been removed from national surveillance makes sense.
Canadians hunt bear in their front yards and eat it regularly.
62: It's a big tent at Unfogged. You may have to love granola but you don't have to be in love with granola (at least for the first 6 months).
You all have inspired me to try making some granola, because I have the same over-sweet problem when putting milk or yogurt on it. Same thing with cereal that has more than a dash of sugar in it.
Feel free to share your granola-making tips here or on AWB's food wiki. Tx.
Just substitute brewer's yeast for the sugar in the granola recipe and you have healthful, non-sweet hippie granola.
66: I'll try and remember to put something up on hte twiki. You can pretty much play with the sweetness content of any recipe, but if it's using honey/syrup you might have to add a little more oil or whatever for binding.
I avoid the honey/syrup because it attracts ants to my yurt.
You may have to love granola but you don't have to be in love with granola (at least for the first 6 months).
I ate granola plain for about seven months because I was too lazy to try yogurt.
you don't have to be in love with granola
Half+seven still applies, though.
you don't have to be in love with granola
As long as I can still have bacon on the side...
As long as I can still have bacon on the side...
Well, yeah. People will look at you strangely if you put it in the yoghurt.
I avoid the honey/syrup because it attracts ants to my yurt.
And then you eat the ants. What's the problem? Formic!
Formic acid tastes nasty. I'm assuming that's the dominant flavor in ants, but of course I could be wrong.
Salo is raw, salted pig's fat and is the number one thing you'll be served or at least teased about as a foreigner in Ukraine. They love it over there; fifteen years ago, when American candy bars were new to the country, the joke was that salo was the "Ukrainian Snickers." Many people eat it every day. I tried it a few times and begged off quite a few more times. It wasn't terrible, but not nearly as good as bacon -- a lot less flavor, weird fatty texture.
And then you eat the ants.
That's hardly vegetarian...
For those making your own granoloa these are the best raisins ever (link to order form on that page).
The local co-op no longer carries them so 2-3 times a year I order a case and give half the cans away to all of my friends. Vastly better than any other raisin I've tried (except for one time when they were disappointing, but other than that, great).
Bob's Red Mill has gotten me into oatmeal lately -- with a bunch of dried fruit thrown in 5-10 minutes before it finishes cooking, and a big spoonful of almond butter on top.
These people make delicious granola that is full-fat, but not too sweet. I don't know if you can order from them.
White people just love them some organic mail-order raisins in home made granola....
White people just love them some organic mail-order raisins in home made granola....
guilty . . .
Didn't ogged post a link to mail-order bacon at some point? Is that any more reasonable?
Small amounts of formic acid in a drink have a short of nice fruity flavor, as I remember.
A friend of mine had some recently immigrated Czech friends and was astonished at how much lard they used. She didn't believe they ate it with a spoon but couldn't rule it out.
Bob's Red Mill! They have ground flax seed meal that I eat every morning. Is it true that eating whole flax seed doesn't do you any good, because you just pass the entire seed? I heard that somewhere along the way, and so switched from granola with whole flaxseed to the ground stuff.
I have some BRM non-instant tapioca.
I should make some tapioca!
Is it true that eating whole flax seed doesn't do you any good, because you just pass the entire seed?
Yeah. Serious bummer, given that I bought a few cups of bulk flax seeds a while back before learning this. I haven't decided whether to give it a go trying to grind them in my coffee grinder. (It'll clog up the grinder and kill it? It's electric.) I don't have any other kind of mill to grind them with.
Do you have a blender? That should do the trick.
Your electric coffee grinder, is it a blade type or a burr type?
I hope that's not true about the whole flax seed. I've been using whole seed on a marinated pork tenderloin that I absolutely love. I will continue to love it, but I liked feeling nutritionally virtuous, too.
87: One of the few kitchen `gadgets' actually worth having.
85: Flax seeds grind up pretty well in an electric coffee grinder, if you don't mind faintly coffee-flavored flax meal. Supposedly, freshly ground flax seed is better for you than the pre-ground stuff; something about the vegetable lignans evaporating or going stale soon after the seeds are ground.
86: Blade type. I do have a blender ... hm. I have visions of the little seeds just flying crazily around the inside the blender and refusing to stay down there where the blades are. Still, though.
91: Blender blade design should stop that, I've ground small things like flax seeds with one many times.
Your blade coffee grinder will work fine, but you may have difficulty getting all residual oil out of it. I have one I use only for spices, because you may not want garam masala flavored coffee....
87: Those flax seeds are hard, very hard; I can't imagine being able to mash them with a mortar & pestle.
I'll try the blender, and if that's a problem, risk the coffee grinder. (I still have doubts about it -- you've done this, jms?).
Okay! Coffee grinder it is. I don't mind flax flavored coffee.
A decent sized M & P might well surprise you.
As far as the coffee grinder goes, I regularly grind harder stuff in one (e.g. to make G-M, with bits of cinnamon etc). If things are big, I'll break them up a bit in M&P or chopped first, but the cheap coffee grinder doesn't have any trouble with them.
93: Yes, although I use a separate grinder for coffee than I do for flax seed, to avoid flavor ghosts. My grinder is the kind that looks like a little cylindrical canister, with sharp rotary blades.
i like to eat sushi sometimes if it's like certified worms free
It's like you have no sense of adventure!
96: That's the blade type, typically the cheaper ones.
There are burr types which have two working surfaces. Much more controlled, so you'll get more consistent grind size/shape. Typically cost a little more. For using like above, it might not be an advantage, though, because there is more stuff to get gummed up.
A decent sized M & P might well surprise you.
I need a large, or larger, one. Mine's far too small for anything that requires much elbow grease. God knows why I constantly forget about eBay as a resource.
99: Yeah, the dinky little ones aren't much good for a lot of stuff.
On the fancy burr grinder front, I've wondered if one would be better for spices etc. just because the better ones dismantle for cleaning (so no old oil/coffee/whatever) and the cheap blade ones are impossible to clean perfectly.
But the fancy conical burr ones are about 10 times the cost of a cheap blade one, and I've had 10 years or so out of a cheap blade one... hard to argue with.
I need a large, or larger, one. Mine's far too small for anything that requires much elbow grease.
I think we've all been there, parsimon.
101: This thread was actually getting me interested in pursuing a "fancy conical burr" one.
102: They definitely work better for coffee. I don't know how cheaply they can be had these days. Manuals are probably best of all, but, you know, pain in the ass factor is high.
100: I've had 10 years or so out of a cheap blade one
Ha -- a pretty good record. I've killed several of the cheap blades ones, and it's almost always because I (despite reservations) decided to grind something that might be a little gummy, a little hard ... and voila. Yep. Killed it. There's nothing quite like that moment when you look at the thing 5 minutes later and say "Wow, I suspected this was going to happen. I went ahead and did it anyway. Huh."
104: Yeah, I keep expecting this one to die, but it doesn't. On the other hand, I've got one of those little chopper attachments for a hand blender, and if anything looks a bit too hard for the grinder, I do it there. Sometimes followed by grinder if I need it to be really small ....
There is something simultaneously satisfying and frustrating about the process of watching yourself do something you've decided was a bad idea, and being vindicated.
I find the formic acid in the milled flax seeds clashes with the tartness of the mail order raisins in my home made granola. Thats why I've switched using organic hemp seeds. I always seem to have plenty of those lying around.
Trouble is, last time I used a coffee grinder on teh hemp seeds, it shorted out my solar panels and almost burned down the yurt. I'm switching back to my trusty mortar and pestle.
electricity is the devils tool, Spike.
There is something simultaneously satisfying and frustrating about the process of watching yourself do something you've decided was a bad idea, and being vindicated.
Absolutely.
I did something marvelous along those lines recently: one of the tiny screws fell out of my sunglasses in my bag. I dutifully emptied the bag out entirely, picked out change and whatnot that had various bits of lint on it, found the tiny screw and set it to one side. Put the stuff back in the bag and then swept off the counter with my hand and brushed off my hands over the trash can. Oh. Where's the screw? I do believe I just threw it away. Stunning.
I figure I really didn't deserve to have those sunglasses any more.
I'm beginning to recognize that, but no electric power means no broadband, and then how would I get fix of the Daily Kos?
108: A couple of months ago, I was making the Bittman no-knead bread. The dutch oven had been heating up for half an hour, per the instructions. I took it out of the oven. Then I took off my oven mitts so I could pick up the raw dough to dump it in. My boyfriend was standing in the kitchen, and I warned him, this dutch oven is SUPER HOT, so be careful and don't come over here. Then I picked up the dutch oven with my bare hands. And screamed.
109: just punch yourself in the head a couple times a day.
111 to 112. How is it being off the grid, soup?
112: You must have mis-read, he didn't say he'd miss The Poor Man.
114: that'd be punching yourself in the head once a month.
How is it being off the grid, soup?
Hey, just 'cause it's the devils tool doesn't mean I don't relish in it.
116: that's what she said!
On a hot dog!
Granola on a really good French vanilla ice cream is what the hippies were really eating when they sold you on granola with yoghurt. Then they went back into their yurts, took the elevator down to their sumptuous underground mansions and read this blog really quickly via their T-1 connections. Silly people, thinking those tie-dye T-shirts and tattered jeans weren't really made by couture houses in Paris...
Ah, busted by 119. But the BO is genuine.
10 must be was really painful i can so relate
i envy people who can cook, when i try to cook my eggs get burnt or milk's spilt or everything is undersalted, really annoying for me and others
and plus injuries
i should try really good soaked granolas as a staple maybe
read, is that you? And "eadr" in the other thread?
The one with the capital letter was the best.
ardE?
"drea" could be short for an English name, "Andrea". leads to confusion.
What's wrong with "read," have you grown tired of it? While your writing style is distinctive enough to make you fairly easy to identify, the changing handle is a bit confusing.
and "drae" sounds like you're a famous Dr. of rap. One whom people sometimes act as if they've forgotten about.
ardE is reserved for the serious statements
well, have to go
How about "dear"?
OR "deer"
OR "elk"
OR "musk ox"
I'm a fan of the read jumbles. Other people's handles are a sequence of letters. Yours is a set.
