Re: Like A Superpower

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And ogged adds to the recycling by adding another thread about Camilla Paglia. I only had to mouseover to see that one coming.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:11 PM
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Camille.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:11 PM
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You weaselly bastard. You didn't tell us it was Paglia. May you rot in hell.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:12 PM
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m., you totally missed your shot:

White people like to recycle.

With suitable links to the SWPL site and old Paglia threads.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:12 PM
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Ogged you sneaky bastard. What she said would be insightful, if there were any reason to believe it were true.

It's better written than she's usually able to manage.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:13 PM
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OK, sorry, I just realized that you must've already done it on the Pastorius thread, and so you did.

But, as with SWPL, still not witty enough.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:14 PM
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m., you totally missed your shot

No I didn't.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:14 PM
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"was" true. Black enough for ya?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:15 PM
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That black liberationist theology is at least a century and half old. And therefore I pronounce that whole passage stupid. And Ogged, too, for thinking it's smart.


Posted by: Ari | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:18 PM
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children of very strict parents tend to become careless and vice versa
well, should work really


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:30 PM
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I think Obama said something like that himself in The Audacity of Hope -- this based on reading a review of it in the NYRB. PGD, having read the Obama books, would presumably know.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:39 PM
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Oh my God.

Ogged you forgot to quote this part of the Paglia piece:

Surely, given Hillary's claim of expertise on the basis of her service as first lady, every major or ambiguous episode in her husband's two presidencies should have been systematically reexamined by the media. I for one have renewed questions about the 1993 suicide of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, Hillary's former law partner and longtime friend, whose files were purged by Hillary's staff before they could be examined for evidence. One must always be skeptical about Web rumors, but my interest was piqued last year by claims that Foster was shattered by the role he had played three months earlier in the outrageous order for federal agents to attack David Koresh's ranch at Waco, Texas, producing a conflagration that led to 76 deaths, including 21 children.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:54 PM
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And this part:

Another point: Most of the media fell hook, line and sinker for the "Iron my shirt!" stunt at a Hillary campaign event in January in New Hampshire, where two scruffy male hecklers were clearly in collusion with her staff. (The signs -- including one suspiciously permitted on the stage itself -- were carefully positioned and lit, and Hillary had a pat prepared line to draw camera attention to them.) Those dorky guys, at least one with a link to a radio station, are far too young to have the slightest knowledge of an era when women ironed men's shirts -- or when shirts needed ironing at all! Businessmen's shirts go to the cleaners nowadays, and everyone else's gear is just tossed into the dryer. That hoax was designed to reawaken the atavistic resentments of older women voters -- and it worked.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:55 PM
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This is also Like a Superpower:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26391168@N06/2474940100/in/pool-pixelrigs

Imagine commenting from that office space !


Posted by: Willy Voet | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:57 PM
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far too young to have the slightest knowledge of an era when women ironed men's shirts -- or when shirts needed ironing at all!

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Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 12:58 PM
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Like a superpower.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 1:18 PM
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That black liberationist theology is at least a century and half old. And therefore I pronounce that whole passage stupid. And Ogged, too, for thinking it's smart.

I agree that it's stupid, but not, I guess, for your reasons. It's just a leap of faith by Paglia. I have no idea why it's supposed to be a compelling leap, or why ogged finds it convincing. File this under "Unconventional Reading, Therefore Convincing." It's hard to believe that the issue of "bridging" only came up for Obama in his twenties.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 1:32 PM
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I'm afraid it's the pig farm for Ogged now. Sorry, guy, but you crossed the line.

Leave a semen sample so your mother can have grandchildren.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 1:53 PM
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Not on a Kleenex, either.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 1:55 PM
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I for one have renewed questions about the 1993 suicide of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, Hillary's former law partner and longtime friend, whose files were purged by Hillary's staff before they could be examined for evidence. One must always be skeptical about Web rumors, but...

Is it irresponsible to speculate about Hillary's role in the suicide (or was it murder?) of Vince Foster? It is irresponsible not to.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 2:11 PM
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17: Oh, I was kidding around. The whole piece is dumb. I was being pedantic in pointing out one reason why.

20: This is an excellent point.


Posted by: Ari | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 2:33 PM
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Lemieux (implicitly) making fun of Ogged.


Posted by: Ari | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 3:56 PM
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Hey, I too would be insightful were my thought not wholly conjectural. From a comment over at The American Scene a few weeks ago:

My hunch is that he chose Trinity precisely because it exemplified the sort of tendency he admired for its feistiness but was wanting to win over to a less adversarial way of thinking. There would have been less point in engaging with people who already thought the way he did. Is this really that hard to fathom? (So I'm more or less with southpaw here, except maybe that the divergence with Obama's own views was more of a feature, and less of a bug.)

"Yeah, there was this guy once... tried to expand people's minds... they thought he was bad news... that he hung about with the wrong crowd... guy by the name of ... [now I'm doing fingerguns] Jesus Christ..."

-- Amit ยท May 2, 08:01 AM

So there we have it: Italian-American crazy persons and Bengali-Australian eggheads, officially on same wavelength.


Posted by: Amit | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 9:01 PM
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God, Paglia casts such a broad net, and kills so many trout and minnow while she's at it, that it's almost all-but-inevitable that once in a while she will say something with which you might have to at least half-heartedly agree. Doesn't mean she's not a second- or third-rate hack, though, not to mention a fundamentally not-good person.

I used to pay for a subscription for Salon, but their policy of continued column space for Camille is what made me cancel, or at least decline to renew. I never wrote a letter to the editor to that effect, however, because I figured it would only prove counter-productive in the end. She gets letters! So: edgy! and provocative! and what keeps us on the cutting edge!

Please stop trolling your own targeted readership, Salon.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 9:20 PM
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God damn, but that's a condescending article. "Wright's just some crazy angry old Negro, and we can all agree on that, so let's just wave that away and focus on how Barack Obama became a better person by subjecting himself to the ravings of this crazy angry old Negro, that he might one day be better-equipped to dismiss him."


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 05-16-08 10:47 PM
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