Re: Son Of Andre

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First thought: "wow, how is she using his belly as a bong?"


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:36 AM
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So many metaphors just popped into my head ...


Posted by: Rottin' in Denmark | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:36 AM
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So it's Sifu at the last Unfoggedcom. What's the big deal?


Posted by: asl | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:44 AM
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Ouch. Geez, thanks asl.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:47 AM
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The woman in the lower left corner gets it exactly right.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:48 AM
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4- Well, Heebie is the one in green, so don't feel too bad.


Posted by: asl | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:51 AM
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Call me fat and try and get me in trouble, man. Only one woman gets to nestle amidst the folds of my enormous belly.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:53 AM
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That's really niche porn, Ogged.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:03 AM
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He's ass-backwards.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:10 AM
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I envision a new CBD compatibility question.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:13 AM
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Thanks for putting that photo below the fold.

So to speak.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:14 AM
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I must assume "Son" refers to something in the past because that person being born is definitely female.

I appreciate the soft gut. As a football player I once came up against a HUGE opponent that was greatly feared. He was not very mobile but he was extremely hard to block.

My job was to block him. Luckily I discovered that if I could get under him a bit and into his belly he was pleasantly soft (unlike tougher guys who seemed to be all hard elbows and knees and blows to the helmet) and kinda cushiony.

This guy was actually a bit like pushing a big soft pillow around. Hard to get started but once inertia took over not that bad.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:16 AM
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This appears to be a variation of the sumo technique known as okurihikiotoshi. Very effective.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:26 AM
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Always pick truth when playing truth or dare.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:32 AM
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Tripp!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:33 AM
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Well, Heebie is the one in green, so don't feel too bad.

I got sucked up into a warm and squishy place.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:36 AM
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Always pick truth when playing truth or dare.

So true. Then lie.

Also, never attend a party where there are cameras!

Laugh if you like but I know this from experience.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:44 AM
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Playing rugby, I once got leveled by a guy like the one described in 12 - it was pleasantly soft, aided by landing in and sliding across a big mud puddle.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:46 AM
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Also, never attend a party where there are cameras!

Or at least, avoid parties where the people with the cameras are jerks. Which is most of them, sure.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:47 AM
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JRoth,

I liked the mud. Get to the guy quick and low and keep driving. He won't have a chance.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:53 AM
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I propose that truth or dare rules be instituted for people testifying under oath before congressional committees, and that answering "I don't recall" should be taken to mean "I choose 'dare.'"


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:55 AM
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21:

That is really funny and brilliant!


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:58 AM
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That is really funny and brilliant!

True, but it can only end in tragedy, with Susan Collins' reputation in tatters after a witness was dared to go into the cloakroom with her and turn off the lights for five minutes, and Robert Byrd dead of a myocardial infarction after a witness was dared to sneak up behind him and pop an inflated paper bag.

OTOH, the fun of sending a witness over to secretly replace Cheney's gavel with a trick gavel that makes a fart noise when banged might be worth all the downside.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:06 AM
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Is there anyone in the Unfoggedtariat in the Baltimore vicinity who would be willing to do a bit of library research for me? I'm looking for an obituary from the Baltimore Sun from January 1981. (Online archives only go back to 1990.)

I'm willing to pay you for your trouble.

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Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:53 AM
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In eighth grade PE I had to wrestle a guy like that.

Grabbed the belly and squeezed--it was surprisingly effective.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:55 AM
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21: House committees - "Truth or Dare"
Senate committees - "Spin the Bottle"
Joint committees - "Drink while you think"

In the absence of a 60-vote supermajority, Senate filibusters can be overridden by the majority on winning a "boat race" against the minority. The exact type of drink used to be determined by the president pro tem of the Senate.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:56 AM
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I'm looking for an obituary from the Baltimore Sun from January 1981.

Why not call the paper? Or a Baltimore library?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 11:07 AM
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Why not call the paper? Or a Baltimore library?

Well, I don't know the exact date, so it will require a bit of digging. Would there even be someone at the paper or at the library whose job description would include "looking for old obituaries upon request"?


Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 11:14 AM
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The paper might charge you for it; if the library has a research desk, they should be able to find it for you gratis.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 11:21 AM
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22 - Gracias.

23 - Alberto Gonzales was the person who immediately came to mind. By the the end of his testimony, they would have nearly run out of ideas for disgusting things to dare him to do.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 11:24 AM
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I've called the Towson University library. He was a professor there. We'll see if they can turn anything up.


Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 11:32 AM
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Picture: hilarious, but I feel sorry for the poor man whose belly is being so relentlessly mocked.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 11:54 AM
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When Ogged mailed me this photo the other day, my reply was, "Which party in this exchange suffered the greater loss of dignity?"


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:06 PM
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The woman, by far.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:16 PM
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34: I disagree; the woman's face is hidden. No one need ever know...


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:18 PM
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I disagree too. Gswift is being totally sexist.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:22 PM
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I would argue that the dude in the picture appears the type to embrace the role of "fat hairy dude who does party tricks with his lard". Such a fellow, if we are to consider a traditional definition of dignity such as "The quality or state of being worthy of esteem or respect", likely suffered no loss of dignity. For the woman, this stunt was probably out of character and the result of a drunken lapse in judgment, and she thus suffered a significant loss of dignity.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:35 PM
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The role of "fat hairy dude who does party tricks with his lard" is inherently undignified. If we assume that the woman in the picture is suffering from a drunken lapse of judgment, we then assume that, in the course of her everyday life, she enjoys all the dignity accorded to most people, whereas the gentleman in question will, if your reading is correct, continue to suffer his indignity constantly, and for the rest of his life.

In short, his lack of dignity is about who he *is*; hers is about what she's *doing*. The former is worse.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:45 PM
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Old donnish joke: there is a stretch of the river in Oxford known as Parson's Pleasure, where (traditionally) nude bathing is allowed. Three dons were bathing there one morning when a boatload of lost undergraduates (male and female) floated past. Two of the mortified nude dons rushed to grab their towels and wrap them round their midriffs; the third grabbed his shirt and pulled it over his head, leaving the rest of himself au naturel.
When the others asked him why he had done this, the third don replied "I don't know about you, but my students recognise me by my face..."


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:51 PM
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his lack of dignity is about who he *is*; hers is about what she's *doing*.

Like that Churchill anecdote-- And you, madame, are ugly, but I'll be sober in the morning.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:51 PM
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38:

Exactly. So when Apo asks who suffered the greater loss of dignity, the correct answer is the woman.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:55 PM
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38.last is right as far as it goes, but gswift's answer is to the specific question "who suffered the greater loss of dignity?" "Fat hairy dude who does party tricks with his lard" had no dignity to lose, therefore can't have lost more.

IOW, you're both right! Prizes and watered-down juice for everybody.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:56 PM
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Fine, pwned by gswift. Last time I support you.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 12:57 PM
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38 is sexist. How do we know that the fat hairy dude does not have the reputation of "sober, thoughtful fat hairy dude" and the woman isn't well known as "unreliable lush who sticks her head in people's stomachs all the time"?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:06 PM
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The sexist part of 38 is the part that's accepting the sexism of 37. Credit where due.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:09 PM
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44, 45: I'm not sure exactly what the -ism is, but I'm not sure that the stereotype/cliche of "fat hairy dude who does party tricks with his lard" is necessarily sexist. I mean, it is a cliche that is pretty much limited to men, but not to very many of them.

That said, I'm pretty amused by the alternate explanation offered in 44. Poor, victimized sober, thoughtful fat hairy dude.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:14 PM
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Towson University library comes through!

I didn't know that it would be so easy just to call and have someone else do my research for me.


Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:19 PM
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Oh, that stereotype isn't sexist. I don't think. It is really sad and awful though.

The sexism is the assumption that the fat guy is a clown, and the apparently normal-looking young woman isn't.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:20 PM
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47: Isn't it kind of shocking, the stuff you can get a research librarian to do?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:22 PM
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Towson University library comes through!

Don't leave us hanging, zadfrack. Who did they say had suffered the greater loss of dignity?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:35 PM
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50: The blogger that linked to it.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:47 PM
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49: Interestingly, the research librarian even knew him from 30 years ago. She faxed me seven pages of information.


Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 1:55 PM
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The sexism is the assumption that the fat guy is a clown, and the apparently normal-looking young woman isn't.

I don't think that it's sexist to assume that only one person in that picture is a clown. Obvs., there's a certain sexism pointing in that direction, but if you make the tiny leap to assume that the guy is a clown, then the balance of evidence shifts - there's no reason to believe that everyone is a clown.

50 is, of course, pretty funny.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:01 PM
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JRoth, quibbler.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:05 PM
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The fat guy has a look on his face that seems to be saying, "I can't believe someone talked me into doing this." So the woman in the green shirt must have talked him into it. Ergo, she's the clown, and he suffered the greater loss of dignity.


Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:10 PM
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I think 55 is correct.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:12 PM
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Isn't it kind of shocking, the stuff you can get a research librarian to do?

Wait...which one of these two is a research librarian?


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:16 PM
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I don't buy 55 for a minute. The look on his face may be a cry for help, but it's a cry for help coming from a fat hairy dude who does party tricks with his lard.

The hair cinched it for me.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:34 PM
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How the hell did this thread ever become humorless? B you are so, so weird.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:38 PM
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Red Dawn was an anti-empire movie. It was an inversion of the Vietnam conflict. It even had a sympathetic cuban commander to preach about the folly of revolution from without.


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:50 PM
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Red Dawn was an anti-empire movie.

The article in the link also says that Hollywood will be remaking Robocop. I had always assumed this was a right-wing movie because Stallone was in it, but once I saw it I realized it's quite subversive, actually.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:51 PM
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49: Which one in the picture are you assuming is a research librarian ?


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:52 PM
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61: Nothing contradictory for Veerhooven about being rightwing and subversive.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:54 PM
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61: Wait, no, I'm missing a joke or you're mixing up your movies. Stallone was Demolition Man, not Robocop.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:01 PM
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64: maybe once he saw it he realized Stallone wasn't in it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:03 PM
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63: I don't think he's actually right-wing, though. He's like a deep-cover lefty embedded in a fascist conspiracy of his own imagining.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:04 PM
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Nothing contradictory for Veerhooven about being rightwing and subversive.

I defer to your superior expertise, pf.

I was struck by the unsubtle brief against privatizing sovereign functions and entrusting profit-maximizing corporations with protecting the public interest. The "tough on crime" motif was surprisingly understated.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:04 PM
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64: Oops. I think I erroneously put Stallone in the movie because of confusion with Judge Dredd.

Regarding the remake of Red Dawn: If the producers don't give Ben Domenech at least a cameo appearance, they deserve to fail.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:07 PM
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So with the arrival of a sysadmin question in the actual Red Dawn thread, it seamlessly transposed itself over here? Weird.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:07 PM
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66 is right on. "Starship Troopers" was terrific.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:08 PM
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62: The woman in green is the research librarian. She's researching the question "What does it feel like to be tea-bagged by an elephant?"


Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:44 PM
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I AM THE LAW


Posted by: JUDGE DREDD | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:46 PM
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66, 70: I liked Starship Troopers quite a lot because of:

1 - Verhoeven's thematic respect for the Heinlein original
2 - Verhoeven's imagining a media future that wasn't obsolete 2 years after the film came out and
3 - the fact that a reviewer came up with a wonderful bit of dead-on snark, calling it "Triumph of Will 90210"


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 6:03 PM
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I know being concerned about violence is so, as Gonzales would say, quaint, but when I saw Robocop I thought it was the first movie to deserve an X rating for violence.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 7:27 PM
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61: from an email last year discussing which of several movies should be watched: "I've heard through the grapevine that the Israelis aren't interested in movies which investigate the mind-body problem and criticize the privatization of public goods."


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 7:37 PM
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75: Anti-Semite.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:29 PM
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74: but see, you count as one of the lucky ones Verhoeven has managed to awake to the vast, fascist conspiracy in which he toils; that's the hilarious thing. He genuinely believes (and he's not wrong) that he's being deeply subversive, it's just that he's subverting a personal straw man of authoritarian moviegoing that may not actually exist until he subverts it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:34 PM
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60: Red Dawn: 20th-century imperial wars such as Vietnam and Afghanistan :: The War of the Worlds: 19th-century imperial wars such as Sudan and the Zulu Wars.

Yes, of course Cubans invading South Dakota is a ludicrous premise on the face of it. So was giant space capsules landing in Woking. But that's not the point; the point is to say, to a public accustomed to seeing things from the point of view of the occupiers, "how would you like it if this happened to you? This is why people resist."


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 5:58 AM
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And "Starship Troopers" wasn't bad, but it should have had power armour and opened (as the book does) with the hero basically re-enacting the Pinkville massacre with handheld nuclear missiles in a city full of alien civilians.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 6:00 AM
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I'm pretty sure I know that guy.


Posted by: mano negra | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 9:14 AM
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77 gets it exactly right. I never realized that before.

I saw RoboCop and thought it was stupid and pointless, and then I saw Starship Troopers and thought it was stupid and pointless. Then it turned out they were satires. Of what? Death Wish? Who cares?


Posted by: Fatrman | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 9:19 AM
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to 79: hells yes, what about that awesome armor and the mini-nuke grenades? that was what starship troopers is all about!


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 05-21-08 10:27 AM
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