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Cuba?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:16 PM
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Or maybe Brazil?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:16 PM
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We are the mulattoes we've been waiting for.


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:19 PM
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Nobody wins here, except for ignorant Southerners and scheming Jews.

That goddamned SEK feller is behind this? Figures.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:20 PM
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I was going to post something from a paper I once wrote on Gilberto Freyre and the crazy-ass notion of Brazil's racial democracy. But instead Teo pwned me. Using only three words and a quetion mark. Teo, you should really consider graduate school in history. If for no other reason than you'd be able to pwn me vocationally rather than just avocationally.


Posted by: Ari | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:22 PM
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I'm John Emerson, and I approve this message.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:23 PM
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"And don't even get me started on Southern Jews."

Iran's too small to invade. I can't imagine how you could remake it. There isn't anything like the USSR around to threaten us. The next best thing is probably to turn it into a nativist fantasy about hordes of illegal aliens.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:24 PM
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Cuba?

I think that will have to wait for the remake of Invasion USA.

So when is Hollywood going to remake The Deerhunter?


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:25 PM
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Hey, Windows XP nerds. A paranoid friend just asked me this: Let's say your XP machine is on a domain, and is set up so that it has a local administrator account and a domain administrator account enabled. Is it then the case, by default, that a domain administrator can remotely log on to your machine with full access to it?

I apologize for the interruption. My feeling is that the answer is "Yes."

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Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:28 PM
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10: trust your feelings.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:29 PM
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Gonerill, you un-American motherfucker. Trying to jack the Red Dawn thread?? The Wolverines are going to firebomb your office. You have been warned.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:30 PM
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Well I figured it was broadly in keeping with the theme of resisting totalitarianism by unlikely means.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:32 PM
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9: You're right.

I'm not sure what 10 is feeling the need to reassure itself of.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:32 PM
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In happier remake news, last week I walked past a location setup in downtown Brooklyn for a new Taking of Pelham 123.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:33 PM
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15: you are somebody.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:33 PM
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Well I figured it was broadly in keeping with the theme of resisting totalitarianism by unlikely means.

This is America. Your employer PAID for that computer, and it's theirs do with as they please. What are you, some kind of a Communist?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:33 PM
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Re. LA monarchist Iranians:

Not too long ago we were in LA looking for a restaurant, and picked one that said something about kebab. Menu? "Persian food." "Aha, I thought, Ogged would hate these people."

We sat outside, and about halfway through our meal a man came out of the restaurant carrying boxes of stuff, put them into his car, and drove away. As he pulled out, I noticed that his car was . . . .

A black BMW. With lots of chrome.

Too funny.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:34 PM
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17: I know, I laugh every time I see a black BMW in LA, too. What are they thinking?!? That thing probably gets hot enough to boil an egg! And the parking?

People!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:35 PM
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9: At my former employer, the sys-admin (a close approximation of the platonic ideal of a sys-admin, heavy body odor, utterly lacking in social skills, office located in a basement closet) had a disconcerting habit of awkwardly trying to make conversation with me about topics that I had no recollection of ever discussing with him. It all made sense when I realized that he spent half the day perusing the personal folders and e-mails of the staff.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:35 PM
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19: He didn't wear this t-shirt, did he?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:39 PM
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Is it then the case, by default, that a domain administrator can remotely log on to your machine with full access to it?

I think so, yes. Domain admins are local admins by default, and local admins have remote access permission by default. Then again, Microsoft is not always bound by the syllogism.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:45 PM
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Red Dawn is not a good movie. I suppose John Milius must have his good points, but the parts of his personality that get chronicled in magazine profiles and parodied in The Big Lebowski are not among them.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:46 PM
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Ah, should have read the rest of the thread before answering; I forgot that we're teeming with geeks.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:47 PM
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20: No. And I'm pretty confident in that "no", because he tended to wear the same three tee-shirts in continuous rotation for the entire six or seven week interval between trips to the laundry.

His other eye-roll-inducing trait was his particular heuristic for triaging help desk issues. It went: first priority = hot chicks; second priority = less hot chicks; third priority = guys who occasionally talked to him; fourth priority = everyone else.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:49 PM
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I forgot that we're teeming with geeks.

Earlier today, my 6-year old son asked and answered the question, 'What's a geek?': "What's a geek? Is it someone who goes on the internet and looks for science? I wish I was a geek. Would I have to wear glasses?"


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 2:52 PM
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In happier remake news, last week I walked past a location setup in downtown Brooklyn for a new Taking of Pelham 123.

Last time I was in NYC my cab driver told me he was going to be recruiting cabs for this. He showed me his SAG card.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:04 PM
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Red Dawn, back and even stupider than the original. "North Korea invades America" would be my guess, or maybe "the Chinese invade America."

And RoboCop is so not in need of remaking. What's wrong with these people?

I see that Valkyrie is mentioned in the article; that flick actually looks like it could be really good.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:04 PM
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Clearly it has to be China.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:08 PM
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Clearly it has to be China.

If so, I predict a key plot point will turn on the proprietor of a Chinese restaurant pretending to be a Quisling, but in reality he is a loyal American in cahoots with the resistance.

Actually, I think I can generalize this prediction to whatever ethnicity the enemy is, with the possible exception of Mexican.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:12 PM
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We already had this argument . Red Dawn, fine movie. Maybe even a great one!

Unfogged is heavily into thread recycling now...round and round on global warming, ritalin, Red Dawn...


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:13 PM
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Clearly it has to be China.

Yeah, but they've still got to sell this thing overseas. Why risk the Chinese market for something as minor as a slightly less impossible plot.

It'll probably be Die Hard with high school kids, featuring generically ethnic terrorists.


Posted by: Gabriel | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:13 PM
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Yeah, but they've still got to sell this thing overseas.

Nah. Agitprop is for internal use.

Canada, then.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:15 PM
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30.1: Sorry PGD, but it's a dreadful film. Useful for its insight into the conservative imaginary, but a dreadful film. In order for a film to be good, its central plot point has to not be an egregious howler.

32.2: That would make it a remake of Canadian Bacon. And that, I would totally be on board for.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:18 PM
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Why risk the Chinese market for something as minor as a slightly less impossible plot.

No worries. There's not that much revenue at stake in the Chinese market.* Those fuckers in Beijing will regret not cracking down on DVD piracy this time, by God!

*Overseas Chinese might be a different story.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:19 PM
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Also further to 34: If you edited the Chinese release carefully, you might even make a commercial success out of it. What Chinese wouldn't like to indulge in the fantasy of conquering the United States, even if only for a short while?


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:20 PM
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Sorry PGD, but it's a dreadful film.

The greatness of Unfogged is that you can recycle topics indefinitely, because no one will ever agree.

In order for a film to be good, its central plot point has to not be an egregious howler.

I disagree! I disagree!


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:26 PM
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25 made me giggle a lot.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:38 PM
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In order for a film to be good, its central plot point has to not be an egregious howler.

I think I disagree as well (not that I can think of any examples off the top of my head), but the important thing is that, if a film's central plot point is an egregious howler, then the rest of it has to be relentlessly awesome, whether as a rip-snorting good time or as a brilliant-on-its-own-terms masterpiece. Red Dawn is neither. Serviceable at best. With an egregious howler of a central plot point.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:38 PM
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I suppose John Milius must have his good points,

The Wind and the Lion is a great movie. It is enough.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:43 PM
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Red Dawn was about commies, right? If it's IslamoLiberalFascists wouldn't it be Green Dawn? Brown Dawn?


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:51 PM
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33: Casablanca - one of the greatest movies of all time. Central plot point - "2 free passes to get out of Nazi Europe" - totally egregious howler.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:51 PM
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In order for a film to be good, its central plot point has to not be an egregious howler.

I refute you thus.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:53 PM
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Maybe "egregious howler" was meant to refer to monkeys. In that case, well, I find it hard to recall a good movie whose central plot point was a monkey.

Monkeybone? Dunston Checks In? Every Which Way But Loose? Bonzo Goes To College? Bela Lugosi Meets A Brooklyn Gorilla? Congo?

If "Bringing Up Baby" had been about a monkey, then maybe.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:57 PM
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more specifically, troublemaking (egregious) monkeys.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 3:57 PM
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Central plot point - "2 free passes to get out of Nazi Europe" - totally egregious howler.

Signed by de Gaulle, no less. Can't see why the Germans would have any reason to question those.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 4:03 PM
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Plot devices aren't the same as plots.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 4:09 PM
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Yellow Dawn!


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 4:31 PM
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I suppose John Milius must have his good points

Well, there's this, but Milius' degree of responsibility for it is a matter of some dispute.


Posted by: potchkeh | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 4:35 PM
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Didn't Milius write Star Wars and Apocalypse Now?

I align myself with PGD on the subject of Red Dawn. However, for reasons described herein previously, I have yet to rewatch it since it first blazed the PG-13 trail.

A former neighbor of mine, Iranian born, did pretty well playing a terrorist right after 9-11. He was almost deported at the same time.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 4:56 PM
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A former neighbor of mine, Iranian born, did pretty well playing a terrorist right after 9-11. He was almost deported at the same time.

"Look! It's that terrorist from the movies!"


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 5:01 PM
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Didn't Milius write Star Wars and Apocalypse Now?

The former, no. An early (and way more "every minute Charlie squats in the bush he gets stronger") draft of the latter, yes.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 5:16 PM
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Milius was the model for Walter Sobchak in "The Big Lebowski", the great movie of our time. That is, and will ever remain, his greatest contribution to Western Civilization.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 5:19 PM
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Milius was the model for Walter Sobchak in "The Big Lebowski", the great movie of our time. That is, and will ever remain, his greatest contribution to Western Civilization.

John has never yet felt the incarnadine joy of beheading his foes. Soon, John, your pigs will feast well, by Crom!

A friend of mine was apparently invited to the wedding of one of Milius's kids. I don't know if he went, but really, the chance to be in a room with Milius and an open bar should not be passed up.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 6:22 PM
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"Those are good burgers, Vahl-ter"


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 6:26 PM
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How many Iranian actors are there in LA? I thought they were all Omid Djalili.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 6:53 PM
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Also Shorhreh Ahsghdashlhooh.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 6:59 PM
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Nobody wins here, except for ignorant Southerners and scheming Jews.

This should come as no surprise, given our control of the media.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:15 PM
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42: Comedies don't count, Knecht. They're supposed to be ridiculous.

But okay, Casablanca. I accept JRoth's reformulation of the rule in 38.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:22 PM
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I would just like to mention that y'all are a bunch of commie pinkos and that Red Dawn was teh Awesome.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:30 PM
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#22: I suppose John Milius must have his good points

Well, there was this little arthouse indie flick he made called Conan the Barbarian...


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:35 PM
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60: Nahhh, too cerebral.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:36 PM
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You have angered CROM!!! You will taste his steel today!


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 8:38 PM
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I would just like to mention that y'all are a bunch of commie pinkos

Not me, Spike! Join me in the mountains, bring your rifle!


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:09 PM
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What is the greatest thing in life, MARGARET ATWOOD?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:13 PM
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WOLVERINES!!!

I wonder if we can get some farmer to entrust us with his granddaughters...


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:38 PM
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Red Dawn. I watched it when I was in middle school on video, and I fell asleep. Plus, the idea of the Russians invading the United States was already clear to me when I was 13. And just to show you the kind of discerning movie watcher I was, at the same time I thought Conan the Barbarian was the greatest fucking movie of all time, and I couldn't understand why the reviews in the newspaper were so negative, and why it didn't win the Oscar for Best Picture. Dude, Conan punches a camel! That shit about Thulsa Doom and his followers was so deep! So when I say that Red Dawn sucked, that is definitive.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:54 PM
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just to show you the kind of discerning movie watcher I was, at the same time I thought Conan the Barbarian was the greatest fucking movie of all time

Very discering indeed, then, because it's a fucking awesome movie.

That anybody would compare it to Red Dawn: FUCK! My fainting couch!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:57 PM
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Add an "n", would you?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 9:57 PM
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No one can be expected to spell correctly in these trying times.

Conan was ruined for me when I found out that the badassiest quote in movie history was plagiarized from real life. (Star Trek II was never the same for me after I read Moby Dick either.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:05 PM
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I too found Red Dawn uninvolving as a young 'un, but loved Conan.

Maybe because Conan is about how a kid grows up to kick ass, while Red Dawn is just depressing.

Besides, "WOLVERINES!" is nowhere near as awesome a bit of dialogue as, "Too CRAHSH yoa enuhmeez, see them DRIVUHN befoa yoo, ahnd too HEAH de LAMUNTAYSHUNZ ahv de WIMMUN!"


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:43 PM
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Even if it was plagiarized from real life.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:44 PM
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#61: Nahhh, too cerebral.

By "cerebral", you mean a lot of heads get split open, exposing the brains within?


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:45 PM
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72: Goodness no, then there would be no such thing as "too cerebral."

But there was that one scene where Conan is brought before the bad guy and lets the mere fact that he's been beaten within an inch of his life prevent him from killing the guy. And instead they talk about riddles and James Earl Jones makes people jump off shit! What the hell is that. Go suck on a bong, Milius, you hippie.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 10:58 PM
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73: That's funny. Do you know what else is funny? Red Dawn and how much it sucks.

What I want to know is when will Hollywood remake Star Wars. It's only a matter of time. Within ten years of Lucas' death, we'll be hearing rumors about who they're casting to play Han Solo. (The correct answer is Scarlett Johansson.)


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 11:28 PM
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The correct answer is Scarlett Johansson

Heh. That's funny.

I could see G-dub Bush. Have we had a thread where we talk about what he does after the shit show? Because "resume golfing" and "clear more brush" does not a schedule fill.

Genuinely curious what the ol' boy will do.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-19-08 11:36 PM
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re: 9

It depends if you have remote login enabled, I'd imagine. You can turn off remote desktop [in which case no-one can log in remotely] and disable all shares. You can also set the firewall to block remote login.

They could still log in if they physically sat down in front of the machine, but not otherwise.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 12:27 AM
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That last comment was me.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 12:37 AM
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"Soviet Union suffers worst wheat harvest in 55 years... Labor and food riots in Poland. Soviet troops invade... Cuba and Nicaragua reach troop strength goals of 500,000. El Salvador and Honduras fall... Green Party gains control of West German Parliament. Demands withdrawal of nuclear weapons from European soil... Mexico plunged into revolution... NATO dissolves. United States stands alone."

Ahhhh, the good ol' 80's.


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 2:55 AM
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Nobody wins here, except for ignorant Southerners and scheming Jews.
This should come as no surprise, given our control of the media.

Ignorant Southerners also seem to have taken control of international finance, given what's been going on in the markets recently. ("Subprime mortgages? Sure, let's have some! Sounds like a hoot!")


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 4:54 AM
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In that case, well, I find it hard to recall a good movie whose central plot point was a monkey.

I'm all upset now.


Posted by: Fay Wrae | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 5:16 AM
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I'm all upset now.

WHO YOU CALL MONKEY? KING KONG NOT MONKEY!



Posted by: King Kong | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 5:24 AM
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74: when will Hollywood remake Star Wars.

It is my fervent hope that Lucas' heirs will not be as picky as Christopher Tolkien, and that the visions of dancing Euro signs will ensorcell them into allowing not just a remake, but a rethinking of the whole mythos, so that we get the original trilogy of trilogies that Lucas dangled in front of us for so long, this time with people who can act. (Plus fewer Ewoks and no Jar-Jar Binks, obviously.)


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 5:41 AM
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Any chance Christopher will see the light, withdraw all that shit from circulation, and dedicate half his inherited plunder to Hobbit-remediation programs? Hobbits have devastated our society.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 5:54 AM
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that we get the original trilogy of trilogies that Lucas dangled in front of us for so long, this time with people who can act.

Isn't it apparent that everything Star Wars sequel is simple statistical reversion to mean?


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 5:55 AM
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"everything" s/b "every"


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 5:56 AM
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Genuinely curious what the ol' boy will do.

If I'm lucky, he'll become the hick he's always pretended to be and spend the rest of his life drinking and running from the law.

Instead of remaking Red Dawn, someone should make a movie of Revolt in 2100. There's your perfect Red Dawn for the post-Bush generation.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 05-20-08 9:18 AM
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