Re: The Right: Objectively Anti-Three-Year-Old

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I cannot believe I wasted 24 seconds of my life on that. I'm going back to my policy of never clicking on video links. It isn't worth it.

On the upside, that's the end of procrastination for the night.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:17 PM
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We're famous!

Didn't Lake notice all the people agonising about the ethical problems posed by insulting his looks?


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:17 PM
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Wasn't it more about The Garance being way under-duded?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:18 PM
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Why was his face blacked out in the vid?

Did he decide to take the vloggingheads version of the paper bag over the head, or did he just break the webcam?


Posted by: toddler | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:27 PM
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I totally missed that thread.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:27 PM
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Is that the accepted pronunciation of unfogged?


Posted by: brownie | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:29 PM
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They?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:31 PM
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So Ogged has had two syllables all this time? Poser.


Posted by: Pasota | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:31 PM
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Is that the accepted pronunciation of unfogged?

I don't think it is, but it makes it sound classier.

So, is this guy really awful? Will Emerson get mad at me for insufficient hostility toward the enemy if I say that I don't think he's ugly, in any case?


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:33 PM
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Yeah, why did he pronounce it unfoggèd?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:35 PM
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Here war the thread. The trouble really began with ogged's post.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:36 PM
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Because he's ugly, BG.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:37 PM
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Unfawg-ED.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:37 PM
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Yeah, by the way, he's not ugly, you bastards.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:38 PM
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Man, I say substantively hurtful things about what a loon he is, and Ogged gets all the attention for calling him ugly. High standards, man, they don't get you anywhere.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:38 PM
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Yes, MC Canadian, I will.

Transcript?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:39 PM
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Seeing him gives some insight into the lovely Garance's character. My guess is that she's not hung very loose.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:40 PM
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It's harder to say that someone's a three-year old for substantively pointing out that you're wrong.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:41 PM
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Maybe you find him attractive, MC and Tim.

Pervs.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:42 PM
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Of course, it's probably besy not to get on the wrong side of someone whose ambition in life i to manage wars. Perhaps that's what Garance was thinking.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:43 PM
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I'm serious. Rottin' in Denmark's comments on pronouncing words Americanly has made me (even more) self-conscious about the way I speak. Now I'm worried that my mental pronunciation of unfogged has been pretentiously wrong.


Posted by: brownie | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:43 PM
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Hey, I'm not saying I want to lick his bald head or anything, Emerson. I'm just saying that "ugly" is a high standard and he doesn't live up to it.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:43 PM
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These right-wing pundits all look alike to me, John.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:44 PM
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I think the funny pronunciation is explained by someone who starts with Ogged, and reads it Ogg-ed, which is as plausible as the alternative, and only then notices that it has something to do with the title of the blog, so changes the title to conform.

Also, did anyone else notice that they actually linked to the post? Somehow, I find that hysterical.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:46 PM
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I am really taken with the way he pronounces Unfogged, though. I think it makes the blog sound like a really swanky, pretentious one-word perfume, the kind that gets advertised with almost-naked people in a minimalist setting in Vanity Fair.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:46 PM
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21: I used to have problems pronouncing "Unf," or at least saying the pronunciation of "Unf" in my head. But he never posts here anymore, anyway.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:47 PM
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Actually, looking at the original post, I see the problem: Phillip Carter is dreamy.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:48 PM
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I think it makes the blog sound like a really swanky, pretentious one-word perfume, the kind that gets advertised with almost-naked people in a minimalist setting in Vanity Fair.

That's exactly the image that Ogged would like to convey, but of course his commenters consistently let him down.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:52 PM
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RE 6 and 26 - See, I heard it as so very close to being Unfaggot and then thought, "well that can't be right."


Posted by: Moira | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:52 PM
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the kind that gets advertised with almost-naked people in a minimalist setting in Vanity Fair.

I had a realization today that allowed me to conclude that it's a very good thing I'm not a fashion photographer.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:55 PM
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27: I thought I was being very restrained not pointing that out. I was thinking it, though.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 6:58 PM
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That's exactly the image that Ogged would like to convey, but of course his commenters consistently let him down.

Not this one.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:02 PM
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Ogged gets all the attention for calling him ugly. High standards, man, they don't get you anywhere

Complain, complain. Substantive arguments are respectable, man, but only one of us is willing to put himself on the line to maintain lines of attack against funny-looking people.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:02 PM
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Actually, I was thinking of you, Apo, but I didn't like to name names.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:03 PM
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He looks funnier looking in the original video. Maybe he's wearing makeup in the new one?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:07 PM
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I write bad writing written.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:07 PM
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33: Or go once more unto the breach to breach decorum.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:08 PM
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We should probably be using our amazing powers in a more responsible way from here on out.

Don't worry about the pig farm any more, motherfuckers! I was just kidding anyway.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:08 PM
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38: We should probably be using our amazing powers in a more responsible powerful way from here on out.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:10 PM
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What did he say? I don't have sound? Was it our lewd conjectures?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:12 PM
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John Emerson, now playing the deaf, shouty grandpa.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:14 PM
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40: yes, you don't have sound.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:14 PM
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I don't have sound ? .


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:14 PM
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I was thinking of you, Apo

That's sweet of you to say, MC. I think about you too.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:14 PM
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If only we hadn't called him ugly; we should merely have stuck to non-subjective terms, like "egg-shaped head" and "bald" and "his glasses really emphasize the baldness of his egg-shaped head."


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:16 PM
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40: Nothing all that funny: along the lines of "You know that blog, Unfogg-ed?" "I do." "They had this whole thing about how I'm ugly, nice going, three-year-olds." That was mostly it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:16 PM
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He said "you know I'm beautiful", which was maybe pushing his luck.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:17 PM
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Also, the pretentious pronounciation of "Unfogg-ed" totally supports my earlier contention that he smokes pretentiously.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:18 PM
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You people are forgetting the little kissy sound he made.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:18 PM
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Here's another video of Cutie noting that the Iranians might have the gall to meddle in country on their border that's just been invaded by another country from around the world. Bonus: the Atlas Shrugs lady is interviewing him.

Anyway, yes, he's a right-winger who seems to specialize in whipping up hysteria about Iran.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:19 PM
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John Emerson, now playing the deaf, shouty grandpa.

The origins of Emerson's no-relationship policy:

She fell in with that Guinness Book of Records crowd; all of a sudden she didn't have time for me. Ohhh, I wore a fifteen-pound beard of bees for that woman, but it wasn't enough.

(Just kidding, John! You know I think of you as an almost-Canuck).


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:19 PM
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Emerson, I want to send you speakers.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:20 PM
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Eli Lake is uncomfortable around oysters.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:20 PM
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"Like a slightly more heterosexual Dr. Evil, but without any apparent midget".

Where do I register my protest? I specifically remember making sexual innuendos, which three-year-olds don't do.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:20 PM
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I have the wherewithal, Ogged, I just can't be bothered. I'm a text guy.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:21 PM
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I'm a text guy.

You're a free rider.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:23 PM
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I for one am unhappy about living under the rule of our alien strategic-planner masters.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:23 PM
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He said "you know I'm beautiful", which was maybe pushing his luck.

I'm pretty sure he said "you know I'm pretty," which was definitely pushing something, though maybe not luck.

But c'mon, guys. He's not really ugly or funny-looking. He just looks like Pundit Guy.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:24 PM
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MC has a bug up her butt. I say ignore her.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:26 PM
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First Hillary, and now Eli Lake, Mary Catherine? What's next, Stephen Harper, great statesman?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:27 PM
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But c'mon, guys. He's not really ugly or funny-looking.

For what little it's worth, I suspect that if you keep insisting on this, people will goad themselves into more and more graphic descriptions of the other position. I feel a little bad that he saw those comments, and I feel much, much worse that I feel a little bad. I mean, for gawd's sake, he's a neocon who has made any number of insulting comments about Democrats and "the Left," usually snidely, and often under his breath. And yet I do feel a little bad. No wonder we keep losing.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:32 PM
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What's next, Stephen Harper, great statesman?

Okay, now you've really pushed my buttons. I seriously loathe and despise Junior Harper, Boy Wonder of the (ha!) Canadian Stage. Total Republican-Lite wannabe, with GOP-style corruption and incompetence the order of the day. Moreover, questions have been raised about his hockey team loyalty.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:35 PM
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Canadians sometimes have good judgment about their indigenous politicians, but who cares?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:36 PM
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I suspect that he didn't read the comments to the post.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:36 PM
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I'm three-and-a-HALF.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:37 PM
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Yeah, Mr. Bigshot Ogged got all the glory. Again.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:37 PM
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Canadians sometimes have good judgment about their indigenous politicians, but who cares?

Well, nobody cares but the Canadians, of course. But believe you me: therein lies true freedom. "The True North strong and free!" is not merely a defensive gesture.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:44 PM
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MC, you'll be glad to know that one of PK's latest trends is to talk about how much he hates America and how much better Canada is. On account of Canada doesn't go to war as much, and also it has snow.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:46 PM
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68: one of PK's latest trends is to talk about how much he hates America

Well we know who he gets that from.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:46 PM
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He'll never forgive you for moving to California.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:47 PM
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Fan-fucking-tastic. He's not ugly only because there's this accepted role for the dweeby-looking dork male as expert (which I'm glad about too!). He's also sexually indeterminate, which helps for that role too. Dr. Evil is the right comparison. Any number of evil mad scientists in the movies. As he ages, his looks will grow ever more appropriate for his chosen role as advocate for killing large numbers of foreigners.

GFR's slam on him re: the inverse relationship between traditional masculinity and neocon hawkishness is great (much better than Ogged's). It is confusing how they ended up dating, but remember: chicks dig assholes!


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:49 PM
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Hey, "unfogGED" sounds like it could be the Canadian pronunciation. Or I at least can imagine the McKenzies saying it that way.


Posted by: brownie | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:52 PM
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Thanks, LB in 46, for the explanation.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:52 PM
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and also it has snow.

There is no snow in America, and the streets are paved with cheesethe blood of innocents.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:53 PM
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69: I'm honestly surprised! I keep thinking he's going to grow up to think of me the way the boomers thought of their Eisenhower-era parents, because I keep trying to tone down his judgmental streak. "Well, people are *used* to having cars...."

70: Meh, in Canada he bitched about wanting to go back to Seattle. (He still does sometimes, actually.) It's just his way of griping. Though I live in fear that he'll grow up, get married, move to Canadia, and want me to come move in and help with the kids, and I'll have to decide between my son and the sun.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:54 PM
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Ben are you quoting An American Tail?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:55 PM
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Though I live in fear that he'll grow up, get married, move to Canadia, and want me to come move in and help with the kids

There are so many unlikely events in this sentence I don't know where to start.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:56 PM
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No, no, he's made me promise numerous times that I'll live with him and help raise the kids (so that he doesn't have to put up with the annoyingness that he feels certain his own children will display in spades). Don't destroy my dreams.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 7:57 PM
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76: mmmmmmmmaybe.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:00 PM
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There should be grandma communes so they could take care of the young kids while their own kids were having constant wild sex in every imaginable combination. Would you be willing to have kids in that case, Ogged?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:00 PM
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Sifu, I totally left you a message at the end of the Greening thread.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:01 PM
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That's not the end of the thread. I'm glad you're reading Jacobs; she's awesome, and not afraid to say things are ugly.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:03 PM
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On account of Canada doesn't go to war as much, and also it has snow.

God love his heart: he likes snow?!

My son is genuinely torn on the relative merits and demerits of the two countries. He thinks it's "not fair" that America has such a "bad President" (now, where did he pick that up, I wonder?), but he does like the notion of a good President. And he thinks Canada is "old-fashioned," but he "likes how they talk." He was surprised to learn that Toronto was part of Canada, since "that seems like America" (his notion of Canada is Carleton and and Renfrew Counties., I guess).


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:05 PM
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It certainly isn't the beginning or the middle of the thread, either. So...

Interesting thus far, thanks for putting the name out there.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:05 PM
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Oh, no problem. She's epochal.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:06 PM
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80: that would be GREAT and it would also help young libertine atheists reproduce enough to keep up with the patriarchal cult religions. Thus helping humanity, which is under threat right now.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:07 PM
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No, no, he's made me promise numerous times that I'll live with him and help raise the kids [...] Don't destroy my dreams.

Is this what happens when your kid gets a bit older? You start dreaming of raising another that isn't even yours? I kind of dread this


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:09 PM
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83: He misses snow. And I promised to "take him to the snow" last winter, but I didn't.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:09 PM
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A Trailer Park Boys will help inculcate his ancestral culture.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:10 PM
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Would you be willing to have kids in that case, Ogged?

You're just trying to goad Ogged's mother, aren't you? Yeah, I know what you're up to, and I know she is reading this thread...


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:11 PM
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88: there's still snow on top of Mt. Whitney.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:11 PM
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87: Not only that, but I get misty at the thought of his moving away (which is part of why I told you the other day that I'm afraid his anxiety about growing up is All My Fault).

Then again, earlier today I got so pissed off at his refusal to do his school work that I grabbed the paper, crumpled it fiercely, threw it at the trash can, and snarled "fine, I don't care what you do."


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:12 PM
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90: Ogged's mom, AWB's mom, PGD's mom. I'm sure there are more.

Probably Apo's mom is more than satisfied by now. And Asilon's.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:14 PM
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My kid's last day of preschool was today and I got misty, in a rising dread kind of way, at the thought of a summer full of T and Th w/out preschool.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:14 PM
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Day camp?

PK has school for three more weeks.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:17 PM
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Rising dread makes you misty? That's so goth.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:17 PM
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88: Honestly, the snow of southwestern Ontario would just about make my soul shrivel up and die an early and untimely death. Such bleakitude! and let's face it, the shorter fiction of Alice Munro can only do so much. The snow of the Ottawa Valley, on the other hand (which is colder and heavier, I might add),...well, that's different. Valley snow has resonance.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:18 PM
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I'm doing this thing where I decided that in Teh Future I will appreciate having spent 2 full summer days a week with her at this age, since the diss is done and I know what I'm teaching in the fall and I've not a ton of pressing shit to do. So I still have fulltime MWF care and am just being a little panicky wuss. It will all get misty, in the blurry lovely way, by December probably.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:19 PM
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MC is making overtures to B. No good can come of this.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:22 PM
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98: Right, exactly. Time for lots and lots of field trips. Parks! Zoos! Also, look into the Y--mine has free childcare for up to two hours while you're doing exercise stuff.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:22 PM
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97: Hey, you don't have to tell me. First, b/c sw Ontario snow is indeed bleak and horrific and soul-killing, and second b/c I am not *even* going to listen to someone talking about the wonders of (shudder) Ottawa.

I have sympathy for his missing the snow, though. Snow is fun for kids.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:24 PM
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his notion of Canada is Carleton and and Renfrew Counties., I guess

Mine too, but back in the days of "The Maple Leaf Forever." When we left, Lester B. Pearson had only been PM for about a year.

I was surprised that Ohio had snow; my sense of the US was set by TV shows set in California and the West. Not as much snow, every year, but still, plenty. There's less everywhere now.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:24 PM
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"Renfrew" always looks to me like a word spelled backwards.

"Werfner" does get over 2000 Google hits. I seem I'm not a lone.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:25 PM
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oh, the last sentence of 103 reveals me as a drunkard.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:26 PM
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You're not a lone, but you are lone.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:27 PM
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97: Does the lake-effect snow in west Michigan also qualify as bleak?


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Such bleakitude!

I have been informed that I am much more pleasant to be around when I get out in the sunlight, and this makes me wonder about our eventual long-term plans to move to northern Canada.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:33 PM
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I'm 106 and also a drunkard. I'm remembering why I usually only lurk, too.


Posted by: brownie | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:33 PM
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Cut it out, Sifu. We don't need psycho Dr. Bronner. We already have Vox Day, for one thing.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:33 PM
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107: like, Nunavut? Off to live on the ice highway?

Wait, what?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:33 PM
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Is this what happens when your kid gets a bit older? You start dreaming of raising another that isn't even yours?

Yes. I would rather you hadn't written it quite so clearly, though.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:34 PM
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It used to snow here regularly when I was a kid, but it almost never does anymore.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:34 PM
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You'll be extremely pleasant 4 to 6 months of the year, Cala.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:34 PM
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109: dude, Ultimate Warrior would totally kick Vox Day's ass, even if Vox got to use his sword. Ultimate Warrior has Destrucity!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:34 PM
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I am not *even* going to listen to someone talking about the wonders of (shudder) Ottawa.

I'm insulted that you would even mention Ottawa in a sentence that begins with southwestern Ontario. We may be just an overblown shantytown that was chosen more or less by accident by Queen Victoria to serve as the new (and admittedly, basically incongruous) capital of a sort-of more or less new nation, but we do have our pride. As usual, I should have listened to Emerson.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:36 PM
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Grandma Moses' painting Thanksgiving Morning depicting a remembered 1920s is snowy.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:36 PM
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107: DON'T DO IT CALA.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:37 PM
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The TSA-types at the Ottawa airport were very nice to me when the luggage belt down below was broken (one has to carry it 'across the border', and the usual procedure is to put it on a conveyor belt downstairs before proceeding to security to get to the gates) and my flight was late and I couldn't repack everything, cutting me in the front of the check-in line, tossing my bags on the conveyor belt, and calling down there to make sure they put the bags on the plane.

"Guess security's a little tighter in New York, eh?"


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:41 PM
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I have a friend moving to Juneau for a year. There is bleak. She's originally from Texas and has complained about Boston winters (which seem not so bad to me). I try not to giggle while she's staying positive.


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Mine too, but back in the days of "The Maple Leaf Forever." When we left, Lester B. Pearson had only been PM for about a year.

Back in the day of "The Maple Leaf Forever," we never sang that song (it was seriously utterly forbidden), on grounds of its orange "taint" toward the red and white. We loved Lester B., though! I make no claims to logical consistency, mine is just a socio-cultural-historical observation. I don't expect any non-Canadian except Emerson to get what I am getting at, but therein lies freedom.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:51 PM
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He's not really ugly or funny-looking. He just looks like Pundit Guy.

No. Chris Matthews looks like Pundit Guy. Tim Russert looks like Pundit Guy. Eli Lake looks like an evil bloated man-frog hybrid.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 8:56 PM
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Eli Lake looks like an evil bloated man-frog hybrid.

Awesome. He does have weird lips.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:00 PM
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Is Garance really dating him? And more importantly, have people I've never met or even read very often become the Brad and Angelina of my world?


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:02 PM
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While the clip was loading, before it started playing, I thought to myself, "Damn, that Eli Lake is looking even uglier than last time. Am I a bad person to be thinking that?"

It's the greatest Bloggingheads moment evar.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:02 PM
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Back on topic, with style. Thanks, boys.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:04 PM
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I used to love the imagery of "lily, thistle, shamrock, rose, the Maple Leaf Forever!" Bound symbolically together, a kind of Canadian lulav.

We sang "God Save the Queen" next our chairs in the morning, and the flag outside was the Union Jack; the red ensign was seldom seen.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:06 PM
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long-term plans to move to northern Canada

Cala, I've been told that I'd make a great second husband.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:06 PM
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That's in Alberta, ogged.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:09 PM
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121: No, really, he just looks like another Pundit Guy, and you lefty guys must have some highly exaggerated notions of your own irresistibly Adonis-like features if you continue to oppose me on this. No doubt he is ugly from the inside out, and his publically stated opinions are unquestionably thoroughly loathsome, if not downright reptilian. But I'm sorry, he just looks like the rest of youse, but in a button-down oxford shirt.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:11 PM
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in button-down oxford shirt

... with the top button undone but the tie still on? The hell?


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129: okay I definitely don't look like that.


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Have I ever ranted here about how much I hate people with those fcuking tinted glasses? Jesus--all you need to know about the guy, you can see in his choice of eyewear. You can't trust someone incapable of figuring out how ugly those god-damned things are. ANd look, he's a neocon, fundamentally intellectually and morally dishonest. It's a fucking 1:1 alignment, I tell you.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:15 PM
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Dude, MC, man-frog hybrid. It's clear as day.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:15 PM
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those fcuking tinted glasses?

I thought these were universally known as "child molester glasses."


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:16 PM
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129: My momma didn't fuck a blind cave frog like his must've.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:16 PM
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Completely OT, but ginger beer + rum = tasty.


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if not downright reptilian

Amphibious, really. An animal-human hybrid.

Every Unfogged commenter I've ever met is much better looking than Lake.

Now I feel mean.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:17 PM
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I'm starting to think Mary Catherine is trolling us on this. Note the inflammatory claim that he looks just like us. Dude is ugly.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:17 PM
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MC definitively proves why Canadians are unreliable. I've met many of you. You're all much more attractive than Eli Lake. Even PGD is more attractive than Eli Lake.


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It's the greatest Bloggingheads moment evar.

I vote for this one.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:18 PM
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137: mean, but lovely.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:18 PM
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In response to this.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:20 PM
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shivbunny once was at a diner where one of the polygamist clan leaders (Jeffs, maybe?) was out to lunch with his wives, who had to cut up his meat in pieces for him and wait on him hand and foot.


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Loathsome, toadlike, with a mesmerizing spell over our princess?—seems too pat to me. Some sort of put-on.


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140: what, the whole thing? Don't make me look at Mickey Kaus for 20 minutes. That dude makes Eli Lake look like Jeff Goldblum.


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143: !!!!!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:24 PM
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142 answers my question.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:24 PM
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"It wasn't a mainstream magazine or even a prominent blog."

I ended up at Rick Perlstein's book party this evening and congratulated him for his recent pwnage of David Frum, which is a top-five Bloggingheads for me. It made me happy for days.


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shivbunny once was at a diner

Sure he was. He just tells you that to make you think you've got it so good.


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148: ooh, that sounds fun.

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Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:26 PM
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Yeah, those polygamists. People for whom mainstream Mormonism isn't nearly misogynist enough.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:26 PM
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shivbunny once was at a diner where one of the polygamist clan leaders

Bye da' Christ, eh? And I thought IDP singing "God
Save the Queen" in his second grade classroom represented the ultimate (whether higher or lower, I'm sure I could not say) in Canadian exotica!


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:30 PM
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He has been out of town for almost two weeks.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:30 PM
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You'll be extremely pleasant 4 to 6 months of the year, Cala.

Even better, in summer you'll be a total blast! And have a blast! You just need to save enough money for lots of alcohol in winter, with enough left over to file for divorce.

Northern Canada: turning the classic May-December relationship up to eleven.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:32 PM
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I'm tired about talking about how ugly Eli Lake is. Can we change the subject to how glad we are Krauthammer is a cripple ?


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:32 PM
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God, this is a great blog, isn't it?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:34 PM
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McCain veepstakes update: It may be down to Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, all of whom McCain has invited to visit him in Arizona over the Memorial Day weekend to, I dunno, talk about the weather or something.

Kudos to Apostropher for guessing Jindal as a top pick in a previous thread.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:39 PM
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I bet I'd rule at bloggingheads. I'd have to be drunk, obviously. Somebody get somebody on the horn, here.


157: it'll be ROM-NEE Space Knight, just you watch. McCain needs a fundraiser.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:40 PM
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Northern Canada: turning the classic May-December relationship up to eleven.

Up to twelve is what separates the wheat from the chaff, not to mention the men from the boys. We don't ask for "pretty," needless to say. It helps to know how to shoot off a gun, but we don't go in for that 2nd amendment crap that is just for sissies.


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Also, you may have heard this already, but Richard Dreyfuss will be Cheney in Oliver Stone's Dubya movie. Damn, that's some good casting.


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Jindal's not old enough to become president when McCain chokes on a prune and dies in his second week in office. Hell, I'm not sure Jindal's old enough to vote. But he is better looking than Lake, who actually looks just like Mary Catherine. He's also quicker on his feet than Krau... Nope, can't do it. Sorry.


Posted by: Ari | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:44 PM
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161: Kaus walks using his eyebrows, anyhow.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:44 PM
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You misread, Herr Master Sifu.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:46 PM
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That I did. That cripple can't walk, Ari.


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Goddamn you, Ari, 161 almost made me choke on a prune, and I wasn't even eating a prune while reading it. Well, sure, I look just like Lake, of course, but I like to think I have more sparkle.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:50 PM
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Eli, do you see Mary Catherine over there? She has on 37 pieces of flair.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:52 PM
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I jumped in a pool and smashed my face pretty badly during my senior year of high school. And I'm a Jew. So I can't make fun of Krauthammer's inability to walk. It's a there-but-for-the-grace-of-god thing. Plus, our baby learned to walk yesterday/today. So, um, well...I don't know. Krauthammer's somebody's kid. Or something.


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167: yeah but you're not a worthless, ruthless propagandist for pure malevolence.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:57 PM
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Is it just me, or does a McCain/Jindal ticket make anyone else think of this?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:57 PM
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167 was me.

As for 168, says who?


Posted by: Ari | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 9:59 PM
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I suppose 168 should be amended to aver that I am ascribing 167 to Ari, as an assumption. If it's Krauthammer, I take it back.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 10:00 PM
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170: you have a lot of work to do to catch up to Krauthooker.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 10:00 PM
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165: In my imagination, you sparkle as you skate on the Rideau Canal. There are no prunes to speak of.


Posted by: Ari | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 10:02 PM
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Your imagination is a deeply constipated place, Ari.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 10:04 PM
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Even PGD is more attractive than Eli Lake.

Totally unfair. PGD is a swell-looking guy, B. He's just holding out for the right girl.


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166: Wait, "Ari" is "Eli," like they're all just interchangeable if their name ends in an "i," and shit? Well, I'm no cosmopolitan, of course, but I'll never forget how my mother once told me that "those Jewish men," they "make such lovely husbands. So devoted!" I defy your anti-Semitism! and on very firm grounds indeed.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 10:08 PM
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175: either that, or he's still struggling to come to terms with his sexual attraction to men.


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Unfogged is famous (on bloggingheads) for insulting the looks of someone (on bloggingheads)? Now, see, you made me edit that for parentheticals.

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Skating on canals is cool.


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Reminded me of Vondie Curtis-Hall saying Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things;
some shall be pardon'd, and some punished


Posted by: NĂ¡pi | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 10:21 PM
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The Rideau Canal is special. My ancestrals helped build it, and they signed (or marked with an X) a petition to the Crown asking for relief for their relations back home, and they named names and shit, which is how I know exactly where they came from (I mean, down to the very two buildings which they occupied as landless tenant farmers) in northern Tipperary.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 10:23 PM
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I used to have problems pronouncing "Unf," or at least saying the pronunciation of "Unf" in my head.

This will be absolutely fascinating, I've no doubt, but I'm sharing it anyway. Back in the day, in an online game I helped run, "unf" was the in-jokey way of indicating silly people typing dirty at one another, as though people were busy MU*-humping and textually emoting little "unf unf unf" noises as they did so. So every time I see "Unfogged," I giggle.

This probably makes no sense to anyone but the hardest of hardcore nerds. Ah well. I'm having my wisdom teeth out tomorrow and they've already given me valium.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 10:59 PM
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181: which MUSH, my peep?


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Also, some dude gives a shit what UnfAW-ged and specifically, I guess, AW-ged things of his looks?

Dude. Welcome to the internet; it ain't a cuddle party.


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And, naturally, this is the association unf-ing has for me as well.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:01 PM
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You know who looks way better than Eli Lake? Robust McManlyPants.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:01 PM
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182: Bless you, Sifu, I knew you'd understand. Mercyground.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:02 PM
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186: never heard of it. I was an NPC in TinyTim, if I recall, but I never really played them things after the BBS days. I wasn't even very good at dopewars.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:03 PM
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You know who looks way betterhas only slightly more hair than Eli Lake? Robust McManlyPants.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:04 PM
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188: yeah but you're a babe, especially compared to Ol' Evil Fishlips.


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It was not well-known but within its genre it was well-respected.

Is this how we build Eli Lake's precious, fragile ego back up? We talk about how I'm also going bald and prove we're big nerds so he can assure himself that with his superior accenting skills he'll surely turn out OK?

If I'd known being a nerd carried such tremendous power I'd have thought twice about skipping football tryouts.


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Also if I'd known about all the gay sex I could have had, but that goes without saying.

And on that note, it's time for me to shut up and go to bed.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:08 PM
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Also some what UnfAW-ged gives a shit what some dude things of his return anti-cuddle?

Robust, you're primed for the wisdom teeth extraction. Good luck! Rah will hopefully be picking you up, and uh .. it'll all go okay. Enjoy the meds.


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Wait you would have gotten gay sex from skipping football tryouts?

What a crazy, topsy-turvy world you grew up in!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:12 PM
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Welcome to the internet; it ain't a cuddle party.

And thank God for that! Because, and now, let's be honest here, who among us would want to "feel me these grapes" with Scott Baio at a cuddle party?

For those who think they might someday want to marry and settle down, but they're just not sure whether they're ready to commit: let Scott Baio be a lesson to you. It's later than you think! And then too, well, the cuddle parties.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:16 PM
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Scott Baio is always a lesson. Thank fucking god that video doesn't load, though.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:21 PM
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150: Geez, you Bostonians, always whining. "Our up until then undefeated football team lost the Superbowl, wah wah wah," "Our basketball team lost a game on its home court for the first time in almost exactly two moths," "Our baseball team hasn't thrown a no-hitter in three days." So much complaining.

Not like reasonable people who think they're entitled by birth to go to the World Series every year.


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Also, SCMT: I should have stopped reading Freedomland when you said it didn't get better. You were very, very right.

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Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:23 PM
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washerdreyer, you endearing bastard, it wasn't until the last sentence of your post that I realized you were kidding.

WHAT I'M NOT TOUCHY BELICHIK WASN'T CHEATING 32 ISN'T OLD AND LOOK THE KID BEAT FUCKING CANCER YOU BASTARD

Sports: transportable stupid.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:24 PM
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Thank fucking god that video doesn't load, though.

You've been spared a world of embarrassment and raw pain, Sifu. Remember: to whom much is given, much is required. As Scott Baio might say from personal experience, God love him: please don't make us cringe for you, we loved you so much when Joanie loved Chachi.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:32 PM
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Kobe does not like that video. Kobe feels that some things are too depraved for even him.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:35 PM
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Sports: transportable stupid.

Seriously. Other Knicks fans are always telling me how much they miss John Starks, seemingly having blacked out that Starks was the most inconsistent, streaky player around and drove everyone crazy when we had him. For that matter: A-Rod's so-called glove slap was a textbook play and you'd think Mets fans could get over the fact that a lunatic on steroids who'd previously beaned their star pitcher subsequently threw a fragment of a bat at him for no reason at all.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:37 PM
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Whence the rudeness to PGD upthread, by the way?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:39 PM
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Dammit, I tried to stop that from posting so I could change pitcher to catcher.

Wow, that's some low hanging fruit.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:39 PM
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202: fuck that dude. You know what he thinks about the Celtics?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:41 PM
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A-Rod's so-called glove slap was a textbook play

Those gloves were super gay, though. 'Sup, Mickey?

The Knicks... look, I feel bad, I really do. Courage.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-08 11:42 PM
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Celtics blow. Lakers are going all the way.


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206, while plausible, would be such a bummer.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 12:01 AM
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I grew up watching my hometown team sock it to the 80's Celtics. (objectively the ugliest team in any sport in history)


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 12:05 AM
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By "sock it" I guess you mean "lose"?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 12:06 AM
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And as I've said in other threads, I want the Celtics to make the finals so I can watch the Lakers humiliate them as is befitting a dirty east coast team.


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By "sock it" I guess you mean "lose"?

You might want to review the 80's champioships to see who came out ahead.


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204: I'm not going to help you out on the algorithm thread, then. Which if it were live would burn you alive.

Celtics? My dad always loved 'em. I kind of did too.


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211: I bet you think the 80s lasted past '85, don't you? That's how they get you, my friend. That's how they get you.


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212: nah. I'm right.


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206-211,213: So interesting. Has this ever been discussed before?

214: nah, you aren't.


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So interesting. Has this ever been discussed before?

But we've got a real possibility of a re-match this year, so we've got to start the trash talk.


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215.2: no, I definitely am.


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216: OK. Gerald Henderson.


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218: doesn't work on my phone. Still and all, I'm right.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 12:29 AM
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Who does he think he is, John Havlicek?


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 12:33 AM
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OK. Gerald Henderson.

Magic's skyhook.


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OK, coming late to this thread, but on topic: HAHAHAHAHAHA!11!
also, I miss john starks.


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I mean, remember how scrappy he was and all? scrappy!!


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223: The black Lenny Dykstra.


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He's an ugly man, no two ways about it. And it's not like "oh you're so immature" is really a much better insult than "you're ugly". I think the guy should just learn to deal with it - I mean, I'm supercilious, Ogged is effeminate and he's ugly, we all have our crosses to bear. How many people don't have at least a few actively repulsive characteristics? Damn few, and they're all newsreaders.

He could do himself a favour by doing his fucking tie up, then he wouldn't be scruffy as well as ugly.


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Brian Williams. Not ugly, but ridiculous. I think that he's been surgically altered to resemble the young Eric Sevareid. (Who, by the way, was from North Dakota, where he grew up in a sod hut which cost $12 ($273.30 in today's dollar's). At age 17 Sevareid canoed from Minneapolis to Hudson's Bay (portaging at Browns Valley).


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emerson, how do you know shit like that?


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 2:43 AM
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How many people don't have at least a few actively repulsive characteristics?

Me! Me!


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Wikipedia plus fiction plus the inflation calculator (TM).


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228: In a pinch, your passively repulsive characteristics will have to do.


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Whence the rudeness to PGD upthread, by the way?

Hey, I was taking up for PGD. But then I had to throw in a gratuitous homophobic insult so that no one would suspect me of harbouring teh ghey love for him. Because that technique worked *so well* in junior high.


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I don't claim any expertise on the subtleties of Yiddish idiom, but until someone convinces me otherwise, I'm going to believe that Eli Lake perfectly encapsulates the word "putz".


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Most of us probably remember Sevareid's later years as dispenser of conventional wisdom, but like a few others in the early years of tv news, he would write serious think-pieces for little magazines, like Max Ascoli's The Reporter, which my dad had a subscription for.

That Rideau Canal skating, which is now world famous, started after my time, at least in a big, connected way. The canal went right by our church, Southminster, which was on Bank Street in the Glebe just as it crossed the canal. Lansdowne Park was just over the bridge.

I've an affinity for Irish-dug canals: In Ohio there was the Miami canal, and here in Chicago there is not only the one that parallels, or did, the Stevenson expressway, but the east channel of the Chicago River, which created Goose Island and the Turning Basin at North Avenue.

Didn't Mullholland start his career with a shovel in his hand?


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 5:51 AM
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I've an affinity for Irish-dug canals

are there any other kind?


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 6:12 AM
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My Hiams and Dumbleton ancestors probably worked on the Erie Canal in some capacity, but were not Irish. they were normal Americans.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:16 AM
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234: I'm think the ones out west are Chinese-dug.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:21 AM
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I'm think, indeed.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:21 AM
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I'm think you're dug, canals. China.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:22 AM
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Also, we seem to have developed a reputation for traveling in packs.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:23 AM
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Commenting from the dentist's chair, bitches!


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:25 AM
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Can't understand you, McManlyPants. Tell that hygienist to take her fingers out of your mouth for a second.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:27 AM
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Commenting from the dentist's chair, bitches!

Is your root canal being debrided by an Irishman?


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:30 AM
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I mean, I'm supercilious, Ogged is effeminate and he's ugly,

Lake is also effeminate. Not that there's anything wrong with that!


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 8:47 AM
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Eli Lake looks like an evil bloated man-frog hybrid.

That's because Eli Lake isn't a full-blooded human. Look at him! His ears are shrinking, his eyes bulge, and he's going bald. Soon his skin will start to become all scabrous and scaly and then those little folds of fat on his neck will develop into gills. By the time this happens, of course, he'll be too obviously non-human to appear on Bloggingheads any longer, or to even leave his house. And one night soon after this Eli Lake will make his way to the ocean to live forever with his loathsome kind in their blasphemous grottos under the sea.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:29 AM
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Can't understand you, McManlyPants. Tell that hygienist to take her fingers his cock out of your mouth for a second.

Is your root canal being debrided by an Irishman?

On the eastern side of my jaw, yes; on the western side, Chinamen. It's like you don't even read these threads, KR.

Also, newsflash: my dentist does a really awesome, fast job of removing four wisdom teeth. I now have them in a little bag, lest an evangelist somewhere use them to work magic against me.

Also also, drugs. Mmmmmm. Just waiting on that oxyprofen to finish kicking in and then it's time to watch some anime.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:32 AM
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Tell that hygienist to take his cock out of your mouth for a second.

Careful, Robust. I've had procedures done at the dentist where they assured me that it would be all covered by my dental insurance, and then when I get the bill, the insurer has denied coverage. I'd make sure that your plan covers this before going any further.

If you're covered by the State of North Carolina public employees plan, I'm going to guess that only heterosexual fellatio is reimbursable.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:38 AM
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Even PGD is more attractive than Eli Lake.

My sexism makes me ugly on the *inside*, B.

either that, or he's still struggling to come to terms with his sexual attraction to men.

As a sexist, I'm fine with MMF threesomes, so it's not an either/or thing.

PGD, SCMT take note: I am now officially worried about the Celtics.

I did think of you during the last two minutes of that game, Sifu. Remember: this is pretty much the same Detroit team that beat the Kobe/Shaq Lakers in the finals. Before Shaq was a decripit old man, too. They sure looked a whole lot better than the Cavaliers out there.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:38 AM
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We each kept one foot on the floor at all times, so I think we're good.

In all seriousness, the last thing I said to her before the Novacaine was, "I'm a tremendous wuss and I've never had a cavity so I've never had anything beyond a cleaning. Just manhandle me however you have to and I'll survive." Turned out she had a grip like a C clamp.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:43 AM
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PGD, SCMT take note: I am now officially worried about the Celtics.

You have two playoff series during which the Celts didn't meet expectations. The Pistons have four or five playoff years when they didn't play up to reasonable expectations. I still like the Celts to win the series. (OTOH, with the exception of the Lakers, I have been consistently wrong picking these playoffs.)


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:48 AM
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Detroit played out of their minds during the end of last night's game. I wonder if they can keep up that level of play.

But I do trust Flip Saunders to adjust over the series better than Doc Rivers.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:50 AM
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I'm going to go ahead and say that the Celtics need to win one on the road this series, though.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:51 AM
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before the Novacaine

Wait a minute, you had 4 wisdom teeth removed in your 30s and didn't have them knock you out? That is insane, hermano.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 9:56 AM
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Remember: this is pretty much the same Detroit team that beat the Kobe/Shaq Lakers in the finals.

I count four starters and Lindsey Hunter. That's far from being the same team, especially considering how deep they were that year.


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Wait a minute, you had 4 wisdom teeth removed in your 30s and didn't have them knock you out? That is insane, hermano.

Novacaine and my iPod. People in my family don't tend to get on well with general anesthetic so I opted out of it. You are not the first person to say this to me, though.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:24 AM
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Also, reason #784 it's awesome to be Southern: the dentist recommended sweet tea because it has something in it that helps healthy clotting & healing of the gums.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:26 AM
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Sugar?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:26 AM
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WIth Novacaine there's no pain at all, but there's a lot of pulling and tugging and you hear cracking and crunching occasionally. The amount of physical force require is considerable, especially if you have healthy roots.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:30 AM
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No, she said tea has some chemical in it. I guess maybe the sugar is irrelevant and thus I'm just spouting ad hoc regionalisms. Drugs. Mmmm. Oh, wait, I was going to watch anime. Yes. Time for the questionably-named Big O.

You are such lovely people for tolerating my babble; not ugly, like that guy in the video.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:31 AM
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you had 4 wisdom teeth removed in your 30s and didn't have them knock you out?

Holy crap, McSuperManly. At least tell me they weren't impacted teeth.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:35 AM
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shivbunny's had that done with just local anaesthetic. It sucks. More fun when they're impacted.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:37 AM
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That's craziness. I had four healthy teeth pulled when I was a kid and got my braces, and I'm never doing that again. Emerson's description is exactly right.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:38 AM
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Dudes. What are you made of, glass? That said, (a) I am crazy high at the moment and (b) none of mine were impacted or at all weird. The only reason to have them removed was that I had trouble getting to them with the brush and they were just impossible to get to with floss so there was a real risk of ugly cavity action down the road and one of them, the more it came in, the more it pushed the rest of my teeth forward so that I was getting mad snaggletooth in front and every three or four months I'd have a couple of days of soreness around the tooth. I had originally thought my dentist was trying to sell me a lot of shit when she said they'd be a cinch to remove but in fact, she said, they were just like pulling any other tooth and, seriously, of the 90 or so minutes I spent in the chair, only maybe 25 were spent pulling teeth. No cracking, even. The teeth in my little bag are perfectly whole and normal-looking. Hell, I don't even have stitches.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:46 AM
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Robust is some kinda hero. Damn. Oh, and braces: stuff white people have (had) -- like everybody I know, practically. 'Cuz all our mouths were messed up originally, apparently.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:48 AM
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262: remember, you're talking to the man who skipped a long-planned cross-country trip because he had a cold.


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Also, can I just say that the thick coating of black gunk on the back of one of them is yet another reason to be glad I quit smoking? I realize that's over-sharing but, Christ-a-mighty, that shit is gross. Like, it's so bad she kept trying to have the 'you can't smoke for several days' talk with me and I kept trying to get out that I quit months ago, really, thanks, and she kept saying it anyway. Gods, what did I do to myself?


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:51 AM
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remember, you're talking to the man who skipped a long-planned cross-country trip because he had a cold.

So true. And so, so pathetic. Does BPL know what she's gotten herself into?


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:52 AM
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I'll be the first to admit that I'm not of sturdy peasant stock.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:55 AM
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I'll be the first to admit that I'm not of sturdy peasant stock.

Elitist!

On the other hand, my only scar is tiny and was earned by making guacamole with too much vigor.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:57 AM
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I think redfoxtailshrub has a recipe for Sturdy Peasant Stock on her cooking blog.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:58 AM
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No, no, that's Turdy Pheasant Stock. You misread.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-23-08 10:59 AM
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Whence the rudeness to PGD upthread, by the way?

God, this blog has gotten so WUSSY.


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