Re: Beercakes!

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Such blogging output - you must have a qualifying exam or big paper due.


Posted by: spaz | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 11:57 AM
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I dunno.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:05 PM
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I don't understand, Minivet.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:06 PM
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Oh man, you had to mention the carp, didn't you? Heebie and Emerson aren't going to let this one stand, w-lfs-n. He who sows the carp shall reap the whirlcarp.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:07 PM
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the claim that beer is used instead of yeast in the preparation of pancakes

It's true --- while you're making your pancakes, it's really much better to drink a beer than snack on a sachet of yeast.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:08 PM
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Just sayin'.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:13 PM
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I'm aware that I could google for recipes for beer pancakes, minivet, but I am asking if anyone at unfogged has recipes for beer pancakes, which is not quite the same thing.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:14 PM
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You could have emailed all the commenters individually, Ben.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:16 PM
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I've made beer biscuits, which are delicious. Never thought of beer pancakes but it could work. Pancakes require more leavening, though (but a wetter batter, so it could even out). Maybe even, perhaps, beer johnny cakes for their beer + corn equation?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:16 PM
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re: 7

I have three czech cookbooks, so checking now.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:18 PM
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Mmmmmm, beer carp. Nature's perfect food.

Probably the carbonation in the beer is used for leavening, rather than using the beer yeast to make the dough rise.

When I first heard about Belgian and French fruit and pop beers, I was appalled, but now it's a nice change of pace.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:24 PM
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a little beer (the right kind, anyway) in that no/little knead bread recipe is a great improvement, too.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:25 PM
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"...my project better to understand human customs related to socializing, interaction, and the exchange of pleasantries..."

Ben's a robot?


Posted by: Jim Sligh | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:28 PM
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Do try to keep up, James.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:33 PM
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Gotcha, Benjamin.


Posted by: Jim Sligh | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:37 PM
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Good grief.

As any fule kno, you take your basic recipe for pancake batter: it will probably include 1 cup of milk. Or soya milk if you're lactose-intolerant.

Instead of adding the milk, you add the same quantity of beer.

It's not rocket science.


Posted by: Jesurgislac | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:38 PM
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7: Sorry, I mentally substituted "there is no recipe for same in the entire book" with "I'm unable to find a recipe anywhere."


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:39 PM
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In the same way, in the standard breakfast you can simply substitute beer for the orange juice, the eggs, the bacon, and the toast. It's really quite simple.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:43 PM
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Hey, some recipes are easily substitutable and some aren't. A body can't be blamed for not knowing which is which.

Also, I just got the strikethrough in the post. Awesome.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:44 PM
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So, I'm not a French speaker; what does Grastronomique mean?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:52 PM
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I've begun to imagine the voice of Lt. Commander Data when reading Ben's posts.


Posted by: Tom | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:52 PM
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Whatever do you mean, Tweet?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:54 PM
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If it isn't a typo, "grastonomique" is a portmanteau of gastronomical and "gras," meaning fat.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:54 PM
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22 to 23, I suppose. Way to mess up JM's comment, Ben.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:55 PM
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The LG is indeed a fat tome, too.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 12:55 PM
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It's a flawed portmanteau, mind you, because the "a" sound in "gras" is different from the "a" sound in "'gastronomique."


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:01 PM
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26: as a typo, though, it's sublime.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:05 PM
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Grastronomique -- comme un gastronomique, main plus gros.


Posted by: Homer Simpson | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:06 PM
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I have to try some of those yeast pancakes one of these days. Are they a little like LB's ciabatta?


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:10 PM
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I know I have the recipe somewhere at home.

Beer bread is well known but not (in my opinion) all that great. It is more of a novelty. Actually I have found many of the things traditionally cooked in beer (such as brats) retain none of the beer flavor. And since we all have taken college chemistry to say the least we all know the alcohol cooks away so what is the point really?

The demand for beer is one of the things that really put a stop to prohibition. Baseball fans chanted "We want Beer!" Breweries sloganed "Beer is food." I was once a member of the "Northpark Cookers." We dabbled in brewing our own beer, producing many humorous tales but never any actually good beer.


Posted by: Tripp the Crazed! | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:10 PM
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And since we all have taken college chemistry to say the least we all know the alcohol cooks away so what is the point really?

Maybe you could rig up some sort of grill/distillation apparatus, so you could cook your brats and make whiskey.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:12 PM
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You know what's a great beer-related recipe? Beer can chicken.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:14 PM
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Really courageous beer can't.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:15 PM
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Beer can!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:16 PM
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McCain says he'll veto every beer; Obama says beer can!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:17 PM
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Beer can chicken.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:18 PM
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Beer can chicken.

Very overrated IME, but I may have had inadequate heat on the grill.

Also, new-fangled alum. cans are so thin as to make the arrangement dodgy.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:26 PM
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Aw, you want to taste the beer flavor in the food? Start with a really bitter IPA and make a reduction with it.


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:29 PM
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This is the first time I've actually understood one of Ben's posts. Unless, of course, there is some deeper meaning which is lost to me.

Frankly, I'm kind of hoping there is.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:37 PM
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NCP I have a feeling the strikethrough is a clue as to some pretentious, poetical, subtextual malarkey.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:42 PM
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Maybe you could rig up some sort of grill/distillation apparatus, so you could cook your brats and make whiskey.

Wow. See?!

Now that is exactly the kind of thinking that makes America great!

I'm proud of you ben, I really am, but I'm still (stll - get it - still?) gonna beat you to the patent office.

I'll give you, say, 5% of the profit.


Posted by: Tripp the Crazed! | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:44 PM
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40: Thanks. I feel much better now.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 1:44 PM
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since we all have taken college chemistry

Kicking and screaming the whole way.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 2:35 PM
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I didn't take any science classes in college, unless you count computer science. FACT. No, wait, I took two required bio classes, but one was on ecology and evolution, and that's not, like, science, you know, it's just a theory.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 2:36 PM
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44: similarly, I haven't eaten anything today, unless you count lunch.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 2:39 PM
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30: I don't know about `beer bread', but the point of adding (a little, very light) beer to the no knead stuff is the yeasts, not the alcohol. Without starter, it is otherwise bound to be terribly bland.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 2:39 PM
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30: Minnesota was a big bootlegging center during Prohibition. Quality boilers were used and it didn't make you go bling. Prohibitionists were mostly anti-Catholic and the Catholic Church opposed it, tacitly or actively.

Bootlegging in Minnesota


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 2:40 PM
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I didn't take any science classes in college

I only took intro level biology, astronomy, and geology. I did not take any math courses.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 2:42 PM
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Quality boilers were used and it didn't make you go bling.

Boiler technology was not so advanced in the south.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 2:44 PM
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Rye bread made with Guinness and cheese is great.


Posted by: Jesurgislac | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 2:57 PM
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Ben -

Substitute beer for the milk. Flat beer is acceptable, which will allow you to re-purpose the leftover brew from a beer-bash-the-night-before, during which someone has likely half-opened a bottle and decided that the task was too overwhelming, generally just before passing out.

Basic recipe:

* 1 cup sifted AP flour
* 3 tbsp sugar
* 3/4 teaspoon baking powder
* 1/2 teaspoon salt
* 1 egg, beaten
* 1 cup beer
* 2 tablespoons butter, melted

If you want to, you can add 1/3 cup powdered milk, which won't really make it taste any better, but will give you some plausible deniability when people accuse you of reducing the protein in the dish.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 4:37 PM
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which will allow you to re-purpose the leftover brew from a beer-bash-the-night-before

Check for cigarette butts before pouring.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 4:40 PM
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52: At least make sure they're evenly distributed when you pour the batter, just as you do with blueberry pancakes.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 4:43 PM
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I have an uncle who used to (and probably still does, for all I know) drink a beer or two at breakfast. Which actually isn't as weird as it may sound: in early modern England, for example (not that my uncle came from there, but anyway), in the days before tea and sugar were imported in significant quantities, why, even the kiddies would have a daily allowance of weak ale, or small beer, and nobody would bat an eye if they drank it in the morning. "Slice o' bread in every bottle" is what my uncle used to say (and probably still does, for all I know). I doubt he would put the beer in the pancake batter, though. He wouldn't go in for such decadence, if I mistake not. You know: standards.

Blueberry pancakes makes me think of Maine, which is my favourite state in the union. But the best maple syrup in the world comes from Qu├ębec, of course.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 8:04 PM
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Around 1700 -- 1800 it was apparently normal to drink weak beer all day long, at work for example.

30 years ago a friend of mine worked for a day with roofers who'd bring a case of beer up on the roof with them and drink while they worked. He decided that it wasn't the job for him.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 9:25 PM
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I never really understood the concept of drinking beer all day as if it were water, until I met a subsistence farmer who did, and near the end of the day partook of his supply. It was Keystone. And by god, it really was just like water.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 9:28 PM
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56: Classic Red Green Show segment of the Possum Lodge Word Game:

(The word is WATER)
A liquid essential to life:
Beer!
A colorless, odorless liquid essential to life:
American Beer!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 9:49 PM
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I never really understood the concept of drinking beer all day as if it were water, until I met a subsistence farmer who did

I know a lot of house painters still do. Some construction workers. Many line cooks get high throughout the day. Shoot, even lawyers have some weird code about breaking out the scotch "after hours", whenever that begins.

It's an interesting point about our relationship towards alcohol and work.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06-11-08 10:26 PM
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Until about 25 years ago in the heavy steel mills in Sheffield, workers on the presses were issued 4 pints (20fl) of beer a day to re-hydrate and it was a condition of employment that they had to drink them.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 3:09 AM
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one thing to keep in mind about people doing heavy labor and drinking all day is that often such people are in chronic pain from overwork/years of toil/repetitive stress injuries. I imagine the beer acts as enough of a painkiller to get them through the day.

my dad was thin and sickly as a child and his doctor in savannah, GA prescribed small amounts of stout, to be drunk daily.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 4:53 AM
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Alameida, that's a good point which hadn't occurred to me about the pain killing effect. I think beer was originally thought (rightly) to be healthier than water, when water came out of unspeakable ponds and such but beer was both boiled and slightly antiseptic from the ethanol. But the analgesia could explain how the tradition survived good piped water.

Stout for convalescents is a fine old tradition. My father was prescribed a bottle of Guinness a day for debility when he got out of POW camp (well, originally he was prescribed a glass of champaign, but some senior bastard countermanded that).


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 5:04 AM
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The error is in thinking that drinking beer all day requires a reason. There are a multitude of reasons -- if you're not carrying 50 lb. bundles of shingles up and down a steep roof 8 hours a day. Constant beer-drinking is opt-out, not opt-in.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 5:30 AM
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The summer I worked in a German hotel we were each entitled to 2 free drinks per work day, which could be beers.

Stout for convalescents is a fine old tradition
One of my grannies, thitherto teetotal, was prescribed a small bottle of Guinness a day in her late 70s, I think for anaemia. After some years the doctor told her she could stop but she felt she'd better keep it up just to be sure... very amusing to her family as she was always one of those Patient Griselda types.


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 5:49 AM
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The Royal Navy swapped its rum ration for beer (I think two bottles of strong ale) at some point in the last century. You have to drink it on the day of issue. It's an offence to save it up for a while and then party.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 5:56 AM
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"As part of my project better to understand human customs related to socializing, interaction, and the exchange of pleasantries, I read..."

There's an error in your hilariously irrational plan detection algorithm, Benbot 3000!

Incidentally, your model number is also the year you will finish grad school.


Posted by: dave zacuto | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 8:12 AM
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Stanley,

It's an interesting point about our relationship towards alcohol and work.

In general people in the late 1800s drank much more alcohol than we do now. The industrial revolution, when people stopped working on small farms and began working on assembly lines, is when business (meaning government) started cracking down on drinking and other 'vices.'

Industry needed sober reliable workers. The fact that the drugs most 'pushed' these days are stimulants is no coincidence.

Meth is a terrible drug, no doubt about that, but one of the 'attractive' aspects to it is that it allows one to work steadily and tirelessly for an extremely long time.

Obviously the "steadily" and "tirelessly" are not only unsustainable but take a terrible toll on people. Meth is one drug I say to avoid at all costs. Don't even try it.


Posted by: Tripp the Crazed! | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 9:33 AM
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Don't even try it.

It's not really that fun, anyhow. Stick to E, and coke if you must.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 9:36 AM
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John,

30 years ago a friend of mine worked for a day with roofers who'd bring a case of beer up on the roof with them and drink while they worked. He decided that it wasn't the job for him.

As I've mentioned I have a brother killing himself with alcoholism but there really is something to beer quenching an extreme thirst.

The times in my life when I have really sweated my butt off I have reached the point where plain water simply did not do the trick. I think something like Gatoraide is a much better choice than beer but beer really can do the trick when water won't.


Posted by: Tripp the Crazed! | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 9:39 AM
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68: beer's got electrolytes! It's what Tripp craves.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 9:44 AM
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It's not really that fun, anyhow.

I've got no direct experience with it, but it seems like there wouldn't be so many people using it if it wasn't fun on some level.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 9:47 AM
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70: well, it's easy to get, cheaper than coke or E, really really strong, and lasts forever. And it's kind of fun, just not by comparison with the others.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 9:50 AM
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68: The times in my life when I have really sweated my butt off I have reached the point where plain water simply did not do the trick

Accto my father, the Irish peasant drink of choice in such cases was buttermilk (too poor to have beer which was a luxury good in Connemara).


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 06-12-08 9:51 AM
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